[RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)
Yeah, I saw those and got quite excited, but they are still too big, I think. Gernot On Jul 29, 9:17 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all the recommendations. I should have mentioned that she is interested in a go-fast (partly to keep up with her boyfriend on his Indy Fab cyclocross). I have planted the seed of the issue perhaps being her boyfriend being too fast, rather than her being too slow, and am working to convince her of the benefits of bobishness. So the target bike would probably resemble a very small Rodeo or AHH more than an Atlantis or LHT... a bunch of small salukis on the frame specials on rivbike - but they may be more than she wants to spend. and salukis are really pretty. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)
Surly Long Haul Trucker, 42 cm frame 650 wheels, or else the Surly 1x1, same setup. It works for someone who is 4'9, she loves her long haul trucker and cranks out 15+ miles multiple times a week. We had a very tough time finding the right fit, with over 7 weeks going to 13 bike shops. Finally, I just took her measurements myself and browsed everything that was possible in a higher quality frameset. This was the best answer. On Jul 31, 7:21 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I saw those and got quite excited, but they are still too big, I think. Gernot On Jul 29, 9:17 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all the recommendations. I should have mentioned that she is interested in a go-fast (partly to keep up with her boyfriend on his Indy Fab cyclocross). I have planted the seed of the issue perhaps being her boyfriend being too fast, rather than her being too slow, and am working to convince her of the benefits of bobishness. So the target bike would probably resemble a very small Rodeo or AHH more than an Atlantis or LHT... a bunch of small salukis on the frame specials on rivbike - but they may be more than she wants to spend. and salukis are really pretty. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)
Thanks for all the recommendations. I should have mentioned that she is interested in a go-fast (partly to keep up with her boyfriend on his Indy Fab cyclocross). I have planted the seed of the issue perhaps being her boyfriend being too fast, rather than her being too slow, and am working to convince her of the benefits of bobishness. So the target bike would probably resemble a very small Rodeo or AHH more than an Atlantis or LHT... Btw, I think she could be convinced to spend $2000 on the right bike, but more may be a stretch. Cheers, Gernot On Jul 28, 1:18 am, Phil Bickford phi...@sonic.net wrote: Earl - If you go with 24 tires like the Red-Line then here's a bobish alternative: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/bik/1863030284.html Tire selection is probably abysmal in 24. I'd try to stay with 26 if you can. Phil B On Jul 26, 7:53 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: My friend has been riding a Fisher mountain bike for years (a 13) but now wants a faster/more versatile bike for mixed and road riding and commuting. Pretty much the only stock bikes that fit her are Terrys (her PBH is 67cm), and she isn't quite ready to drop $3000. Does anyone have a very small diamond-framed or small mixte-framed (up to 48cm?) bike sitting around looking for a rider? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all the recommendations. I should have mentioned that she is interested in a go-fast (partly to keep up with her boyfriend on his Indy Fab cyclocross). I have planted the seed of the issue perhaps being her boyfriend being too fast, rather than her being too slow, and am working to convince her of the benefits of bobishness. So the target bike would probably resemble a very small Rodeo or AHH more than an Atlantis or LHT... a bunch of small salukis on the frame specials on rivbike - but they may be more than she wants to spend. and salukis are really pretty. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all the recommendations. I should have mentioned that she is interested in a go-fast (partly to keep up with her boyfriend on his Indy Fab cyclocross). I have planted the seed of the issue perhaps being her boyfriend being too fast, rather than her being too slow, and am working to convince her of the benefits of bobishness. So the target bike would probably resemble a very small Rodeo or AHH more than an Atlantis or LHT... a bunch of small salukis on the frame specials on rivbike - but they may be more than she wants to spend. and salukis are really pretty. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)
Here are some geometry comparisons of small touring bikes (Riv Atlantis, Surly LHT, Soma Saga).ETT = Effective Top Tube, SO = standover in mm, STA = seat tube angle. Make-and-size ETT SO STA Atlantis-47cm 520 712 72.5 LHT-46cm515 724 74.5 LHT-42cm505 703 75 Saga-47cm 517 714 74.5 Saga-44cm 502 701 75 In this chart, note the difference in the seat tube angle (STA) on the Atlantis. To get the same saddle position relative to the pedals, you'd have to push the saddle back on the Surly and Soma bikes. Every degree of STA is worth a little over 10 mm of saddle position in a bike of this size (use your high school trig -- exact calculation depends on seat height). The correction is about 20 mm for a 74.5 degree STA and 25 mm for a 75 degree STA. So the equivalent ETT for the 46 cm LHT would be about 535 mm, and for the 42 cm LHT it would be 530. For the Soma Saga 47 cm the equivalent ETT would be 537, and for the 44 cm Saga it would be 527. Bottom line: the Atlantis' stated ETT measurement is the longest of the bunch, but because of the shallower seat tube angle, it has the shortest reach. Handlebar height and head tube angle also affect reach. This issue is addressed in more generality and detail here: http://www.rivbike.com/article/bicycle_making/the_top_tube_ruse Lisa PS: If the OP's friend's PBH is 670 mm, she won't be able to stand over any of these bikes. She may need a mixte, or a bike with 24 wheels. On Jul 27, 1:35 am, Ian Dickson iandicks...@gmail.com wrote: The bike is tiny, but with the small wheels and level top tube it looks normal and nicely proportioned. A lot of small frames look like they've been squashed. I haven't looked at the geometry, but I would guess that the 46cm LHT is similar to a 47cm Atlantis, which would be nicer if your friend is willing to spend the money. My wife is very happy with the Surly, though. They are nice bikes. Ian On Jul 26, 8:43 pm, Ken Mattina ken.matt...@gmail.com wrote: The soma buena vista comes in a 42cm size. The salsa vaya comes in a 50cm although according to the geometry chart, the seat tube measures 45cm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)
I would try to find a shop with a 42cm Surly Long Haul Trucker (LHT). If it is a good fit, she could probably cannibalize her Gary Fisher and end up with a new bike in the $400 range. B/B/S (beg/borrow/ steal) any parts that she is missing. I have had good luck with the i need this part posts. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)
Earl - If you go with 24 tires like the Red-Line then here's a bobish alternative: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/bik/1863030284.html Tire selection is probably abysmal in 24. I'd try to stay with 26 if you can. Phil B On Jul 26, 7:53 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: My friend has been riding a Fisher mountain bike for years (a 13) but now wants a faster/more versatile bike for mixed and road riding and commuting. Pretty much the only stock bikes that fit her are Terrys (her PBH is 67cm), and she isn't quite ready to drop $3000. Does anyone have a very small diamond-framed or small mixte-framed (up to 48cm?) bike sitting around looking for a rider? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)
My wife is just shy of 5'2, and she rides a 46cm Surly Long Haul Trucker (they also make it in a 42cm). We commute together over a mix of pavement, gravel, and single track, and the bike does well on all of it. I built it up with very light rims, a Tubus Cargo rack, plastic fenders, and 26x1.6 Marathon Supremes. The trick was getting the reach short enough for her to use it with drop bars. This stem was a good solution: http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-Thorn-Thorn-Front-Loading-Alloy-1-1-8-Inch-Ahead-Stem-+-40-Deg--Polished-Silver--90mm-3523.htm The bike is tiny, but with the small wheels and level top tube it looks normal and nicely proportioned. A lot of small frames look like they've been squashed. I haven't looked at the geometry, but I would guess that the 46cm LHT is similar to a 47cm Atlantis, which would be nicer if your friend is willing to spend the money. My wife is very happy with the Surly, though. They are nice bikes. Ian On Jul 26, 8:43 pm, Ken Mattina ken.matt...@gmail.com wrote: The soma buena vista comes in a 42cm size. The salsa vaya comes in a 50cm although according to the geometry chart, the seat tube measures 45cm. Both use 26 (559mm) wheels. http://www.somafab.com/bvista.html http://salsacycles.com/bikes/vaya/frame/ On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:27 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Oops, that was a RBW'er in Fort Collins. Found an incredible nice 43.5cm custom made Hujsak http://web.archive.org/web/20070502135954/http://www.hujsak.com/bike built around 650c wheels. 'Nother good small bike is the Redline Conquest 24.http://www.redlinebicycles.com/bikes/cyclocross/2010-conquest-24 They have the benefit of decent tire clearance. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:13 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Patience in looking for a used one, along w/ putting the All Hands On Deck call out on the RBW list is probably the best thing you can do. My friend's wife bought a very small (42cm) bike w/ 650c wheels due to a friend of a friend that knew about some bike for sale in Texas. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: The Hilborne comes in a 48. If a new Riv is too expensive, there are older road bikes available in small sizes if you keep your eyes peeled. My wife has an 80's Trek and a Fuso in 48 but neither are for sale. If I was small enough, I'd go for a Vitus like this: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/1860063345.html Also, Surly's go to 42cm in several models, and Soma goes to at least 48cm. On Jul 26, 7:53 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: My friend has been riding a Fisher mountain bike for years (a 13) but now wants a faster/more versatile bike for mixed and road riding and commuting. Pretty much the only stock bikes that fit her are Terrys (her PBH is 67cm), and she isn't quite ready to drop $3000. Does anyone have a very small diamond-framed or small mixte-framed (up to 48cm?) bike sitting around looking for a rider? If so, please send me detailed info. Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Where did the spring go? Where did my hormones go? Where did my energy go? Where did my go go? Where did the pleasure go? Where did my hair go? -- Ray Davies -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)
Reach is an issue for many small riders. Small bikes tend to have long effective top tubes in proportion to their other dimensions. They also tend to have steep seat tube angles -- so when the seat is pushed back to a good riding position, the reach is further increased. I'm a short rider (5' 2.5, PBH of 75 cm) and the happy owner of a new 47 cm Atlantis. Rivendell is nearly unique in making their smallest frames with the same seat tube angles as their larger ones. My Atlantis is the first bike I've had in my adult life that really fits me -- even with drop bars. It has a 52 cm ETT and a 72.5 degree seat tube angle. However, it sounds like I'm taller than your friend. She may be able to make a somewhat-too-long bike fit if she puts North Road style bars on it. If she finds 54 cm Albatross bars too wide, I'd suggest the 50 cm Nitto North Road or 49 cm Soma Sparrow bars. Beware of old mixtes. My old touring/commuting bike, a 1987 Peugeot mixte, has a 76 degree seat tube angle. After riding my new Atlantis for a week, I took the Peugeot for a spin around the block. I couldn't believe I had been riding it for all those years, I was sitting so far forward of the pedals, even with the seat pushed as far back as it would go. Rivendell doesn't have the geometry of the Betty Foy posted on their web site, but the 47 cm Betty probably has a reasonable seat tube angle like their other small bikes. Hopefully the ETT isn't too long. Sorry for the long reply -- I hope your friend finds a good bike! On Jul 26, 10:53 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: My friend has been riding a Fisher mountain bike for years (a 13) but now wants a faster/more versatile bike for mixed and road riding and commuting. Pretty much the only stock bikes that fit her are Terrys (her PBH is 67cm), and she isn't quite ready to drop $3000. Does anyone have a very small diamond-framed or small mixte-framed (up to 48cm?) bike sitting around looking for a rider? If so, please send me detailed info. Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)
The Hilborne comes in a 48. If a new Riv is too expensive, there are older road bikes available in small sizes if you keep your eyes peeled. My wife has an 80's Trek and a Fuso in 48 but neither are for sale. If I was small enough, I'd go for a Vitus like this: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/1860063345.html Also, Surly's go to 42cm in several models, and Soma goes to at least 48cm. On Jul 26, 7:53 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: My friend has been riding a Fisher mountain bike for years (a 13) but now wants a faster/more versatile bike for mixed and road riding and commuting. Pretty much the only stock bikes that fit her are Terrys (her PBH is 67cm), and she isn't quite ready to drop $3000. Does anyone have a very small diamond-framed or small mixte-framed (up to 48cm?) bike sitting around looking for a rider? If so, please send me detailed info. Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)
Patience in looking for a used one, along w/ putting the All Hands On Deck call out on the RBW list is probably the best thing you can do. My friend's wife bought a very small (42cm) bike w/ 650c wheels due to a friend of a friend that knew about some bike for sale in Texas. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: The Hilborne comes in a 48. If a new Riv is too expensive, there are older road bikes available in small sizes if you keep your eyes peeled. My wife has an 80's Trek and a Fuso in 48 but neither are for sale. If I was small enough, I'd go for a Vitus like this: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/1860063345.html Also, Surly's go to 42cm in several models, and Soma goes to at least 48cm. On Jul 26, 7:53 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: My friend has been riding a Fisher mountain bike for years (a 13) but now wants a faster/more versatile bike for mixed and road riding and commuting. Pretty much the only stock bikes that fit her are Terrys (her PBH is 67cm), and she isn't quite ready to drop $3000. Does anyone have a very small diamond-framed or small mixte-framed (up to 48cm?) bike sitting around looking for a rider? If so, please send me detailed info. Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)
Oops, that was a RBW'er in Fort Collins. Found an incredible nice 43.5cm custom made Hujsak http://web.archive.org/web/20070502135954/http://www.hujsak.com/bike built around 650c wheels. 'Nother good small bike is the Redline Conquest 24.http://www.redlinebicycles.com/bikes/cyclocross/2010-conquest-24 They have the benefit of decent tire clearance. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:13 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Patience in looking for a used one, along w/ putting the All Hands On Deck call out on the RBW list is probably the best thing you can do. My friend's wife bought a very small (42cm) bike w/ 650c wheels due to a friend of a friend that knew about some bike for sale in Texas. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: The Hilborne comes in a 48. If a new Riv is too expensive, there are older road bikes available in small sizes if you keep your eyes peeled. My wife has an 80's Trek and a Fuso in 48 but neither are for sale. If I was small enough, I'd go for a Vitus like this: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/1860063345.html Also, Surly's go to 42cm in several models, and Soma goes to at least 48cm. On Jul 26, 7:53 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: My friend has been riding a Fisher mountain bike for years (a 13) but now wants a faster/more versatile bike for mixed and road riding and commuting. Pretty much the only stock bikes that fit her are Terrys (her PBH is 67cm), and she isn't quite ready to drop $3000. Does anyone have a very small diamond-framed or small mixte-framed (up to 48cm?) bike sitting around looking for a rider? If so, please send me detailed info. Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)
The soma buena vista comes in a 42cm size. The salsa vaya comes in a 50cm although according to the geometry chart, the seat tube measures 45cm. Both use 26 (559mm) wheels. http://www.somafab.com/bvista.html http://salsacycles.com/bikes/vaya/frame/ On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:27 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Oops, that was a RBW'er in Fort Collins. Found an incredible nice 43.5cm custom made Hujsak http://web.archive.org/web/20070502135954/http://www.hujsak.com/bike built around 650c wheels. 'Nother good small bike is the Redline Conquest 24.http://www.redlinebicycles.com/bikes/cyclocross/2010-conquest-24 They have the benefit of decent tire clearance. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:13 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Patience in looking for a used one, along w/ putting the All Hands On Deck call out on the RBW list is probably the best thing you can do. My friend's wife bought a very small (42cm) bike w/ 650c wheels due to a friend of a friend that knew about some bike for sale in Texas. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: The Hilborne comes in a 48. If a new Riv is too expensive, there are older road bikes available in small sizes if you keep your eyes peeled. My wife has an 80's Trek and a Fuso in 48 but neither are for sale. If I was small enough, I'd go for a Vitus like this: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/1860063345.html Also, Surly's go to 42cm in several models, and Soma goes to at least 48cm. On Jul 26, 7:53 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: My friend has been riding a Fisher mountain bike for years (a 13) but now wants a faster/more versatile bike for mixed and road riding and commuting. Pretty much the only stock bikes that fit her are Terrys (her PBH is 67cm), and she isn't quite ready to drop $3000. Does anyone have a very small diamond-framed or small mixte-framed (up to 48cm?) bike sitting around looking for a rider? If so, please send me detailed info. Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Where did the spring go? Where did my hormones go? Where did my energy go? Where did my go go? Where did the pleasure go? Where did my hair go? -- Ray Davies -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
