[RBW] Re: What do I replace coroplast with in Sackville

[Marc Irwin]

If you can't find an abandoned yard sign lying around, the big box hardware 
stores sell new pieces at pretty cheap prices.

Marc

On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 11:06:34 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Mine is all bendy and collapsey in my medium SaddleSack. What are you 
> folks putting in there to replace it? 
>
> Joe Bernard 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: What do I replace coroplast with in Sackville

[Jacob t]

I solved this issue in my Fabios Chest by buying a storage bin lid at 
Target and cutting it down to size. Works great, and only cost a few 
dollars.

On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 4:19:06 PM UTC-7 Jay Lonner wrote:

> So the Surly TV Tray that I ordered earlier in the week arrived today — 
> attached find some pictures. 
>
> The first shows the TV Tray overlaying the coroplast from a large 
> SaddleSack, and as you can see it’s a bit smaller all the way around, so 
> maybe not as supportive if used inside the bag as direct replacement for 
> the coroplast. 
>
> The next two pictures are mockups using the TV Tray as an external support 
> attached directly to a rear rack, and this approach looks a lot more 
> promising (and is how I intended to use it all along). Much less sag, and 
> eliminates the problem of smaller items working their way underneath the 
> coroplast. I’ll see if I can’t wrap up final installation this weekend.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg][image: image2.jpeg]
>
>
> Sent from my Atari 400
>
> On Apr 19, 2023, at 6:04 PM, JohnS  wrote:
>
> Correct, Masonite/hardboard/fiberboard, I've also used it for a work 
> bench top. It's held up well. I should say that I use the hardboard to 
> replace the coroplast backing in a Sunlight shopping baskets that hang from 
> the rear rack. So may not be applicable for the Saddle sack.
>
>
> Here is the inside. The spring, from an old Cannondale pannier is mounted 
> on the inside so that the bag rests flat against the rack.
>
> 
>
>
> Here is the back. The hooks are repurposed from a Wald basket.
>
> 
>
>
> JohnS
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: What do I replace coroplast with in Sackville

[Michael Baquerizo]

i bought a used sackville on ebay that didnt come with any stiffener. 
coroplast is pretty expensive at office supplies so i just used cardboard. 
i forgot if i doubled it up but i then wrapped it in gaffers tape for some 
rigidity. i originally tried to melt a plastic record sleeve on it so it'd 
stay water proof ish, but ditched that idea eventually. the biggest con is 
the only gaff tape i had was black which makes the inside of the sack seem 
like an abyss.

On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 12:11:45 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> While I'd not want to use Masonite in my saddlebags -- too heavy; 
> coroplast at right angles to pressure is better -- I do want to use it as a 
> consumable workbench cover. Excellent idea that is new to me but which 
> makes great sense. But first I'll have to clean up the work surface.
>
> As to a bag stiffener: for me, the need is rather for something to absorb 
> shocks of fragile items like wine bottles and cartons of eggs from jarring 
> on the supporting rack; a 1/2" piece of dense foam works well.
>
> Patrick Moore, who has a huge sheet of Masonite protecting the drywall 
> behind his 6-bike bike hanging system on the East wall of his garage, and 1 
> or 2 left over corroplast signs left over from local elections in 
> Farmington, NM 4 years ago, in ABQ, NM, and who is assiduously 
> scrutinizing his Sugino cranks for trademark violations.
>
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 10:00 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> Masonite is the stuff that lots of folks use as a top layer on a 
>> workbench.  Plywood provides the hardness, stiffness, strength and 
>> support.  Masonite is a smoother, splinter free, less absobant surface.  
>> Masonite is a "consumable".  In a shop workbench, we'd replace the masonite 
>> top every couple of years.  On my home workbench, I've had the same 
>> masonite top for over a decade.  
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: What do I replace coroplast with in Sackville

[Patrick Moore]

While I'd not want to use Masonite in my saddlebags -- too heavy; coroplast
at right angles to pressure is better -- I do want to use it as a
consumable workbench cover. Excellent idea that is new to me but which
makes great sense. But first I'll have to clean up the work surface.

As to a bag stiffener: for me, the need is rather for something to absorb
shocks of fragile items like wine bottles and cartons of eggs from jarring
on the supporting rack; a 1/2" piece of dense foam works well.

Patrick Moore, who has a huge sheet of Masonite protecting the drywall
behind his 6-bike bike hanging system on the East wall of his garage, and 1
or 2 left over corroplast signs left over from local elections in
Farmington, NM 4 years ago, in ABQ, NM, and who is assiduously scrutinizing
his Sugino cranks for trademark violations.

On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 10:00 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Masonite is the stuff that lots of folks use as a top layer on a
> workbench.  Plywood provides the hardness, stiffness, strength and
> support.  Masonite is a smoother, splinter free, less absobant surface.
> Masonite is a "consumable".  In a shop workbench, we'd replace the masonite
> top every couple of years.  On my home workbench, I've had the same
> masonite top for over a decade.

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[RBW] Re: What do I replace coroplast with in Sackville

[Bill Lindsay]

Masonite is the stuff that lots of folks use as a top layer on a 
workbench.  Plywood provides the hardness, stiffness, strength and 
support.  Masonite is a smoother, splinter free, less absobant surface.  
Masonite is a "consumable".  In a shop workbench, we'd replace the masonite 
top every couple of years.  On my home workbench, I've had the same 
masonite top for over a decade.  

Masonite itself is pretty weak, compared to other wood sheets.  Whether a 
masonite "stiffener" would be stronger or weaker than corroplast, I'd guess 
masonite would be somewhat stronger than corroplast, and somewhat heavier 
than corroplast.  

If there was a product that was much stronger than corroplast while being a 
similar weight, I would guess that there's probably a fiberglass sheet that 
you could buy at TAP Plastics.  (TAP Plastics has corroplast also).  I 
don't know how much it would cost, but it would not be free like campaign 
signs.  TAP Plastics is a very fun place to shop for things you didn't know 
that you couldn't live without.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA 
On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 8:46:02 AM UTC-7 George Schick wrote:

> Masonite is a brand name for fiberboard, AKA hardboard.
>
> On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 10:42:37 AM UTC-5 Mike Godwin wrote:
>
>> John S
>>
>> What is fiber board? Masonite? Chipped wood product?
>>
>>
>> Mike "who uses 2 x cardboard glued cross-grain for front basket base" SLO 
>> CA 
>> On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 5:54:05 AM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:
>>
>>> I'm with Ian, but instead of plywood, I use 1/8" fiberboard for bike bag 
>>> stiffeners. Cut to size and coat with polyurethane to water proof it. Holds 
>>> up great, downside is it's heavier than the plastic.
>>>
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 4:28:43 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>>
 You could try gluing two pieces of chloroplast together with the 
 "grain" of the two pieces running at right angles, or three pieces at 60 
 deg - "plyplast"? 
 This assumes that you are using free recycled signs.

 Laing

 On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 4:14:27 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:

> I don't want to hi-jack this thread, but having been inspired by the 
> "lots of stuff" comment I decided to empty my saddle bag of its contents 
> and weigh it.  2.55 lbs.  So I emptied it and went for an 8 mile round 
> trip 
> ride on the Ram to get some merchandize. The bike handled much better - 
> more lively and a bit easer steering response.  Then I loaded it back up 
> and weighed the merchandize when I got back home. 3.64 lbs.  On the 
> return 
> trip loaded up a noticed the difference right away.  I figure the extra 
> ~lb. or so would be about what the bag contents weighs when I go for an 
> extended ride with a cell phone, key ring, ID+some cash in a thin taxi 
> wallet, and maybe a Clif Bar... so roughly the same weight.  Just sayin'.
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 2:23:41 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Well I don't START with lots of stuff but I endeavor to be like Pam 
>> (Likes To Bike) and Leah (Bicycle Belle Ding Ding) who do everything on 
>> their bikes, so I go shopping and load it up! It sits on a Nitto rack 
>> and 
>> the stuff on the sides of the bag bend the coroplast down, maybe I 
>> should 
>> just pull the stiffener and let the rack do the work. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:54:29 AM UTC-7 George Schick wrote:
>>
>>> JB sez "... I carry a lot of stuff!.."  So do I and I'm beginning to 
>>> wonder why.  I carry 3-4 different sizes of tubes in case I run into 
>>> someone who flats without a spare along with an entire collection of 
>>> small 
>>> tubes, patches, etc.  Every time I lift it down from the ceiling hooks 
>>> I 
>>> consider ditching most of it.  I think I will...
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 10:12:56 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Oh I didn't bend it, it just collapsed under the weight of stuff in 
 there. I carry a lot of stuff! 

 On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:49:57 AM UTC-7 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
 NY wrote:

> As folks have said, more free coroplast will be the ideal 
> solution. However, if you want to make your coroplast last forever, 
> never 
> to go “all bendy and collapsey”, send it around the front and back 
> (or side 
> to side) corners, bending it the hard way. To bend “the hard way”, 
> you’ll 
> want to score the coroplast before bending it. Use a straightedge and 
> something dull to scribe your bend line perpendicular to the 
> corrugations. 
> You don’t want to cut the bends, just dent them enough to follow the 
> lines 
> you want. If you plan it well, you’ll be able to unfold your new 
> insert 
> 

[RBW] Re: What do I replace coroplast with in Sackville

[George Schick]

Masonite is a brand name for fiberboard, AKA hardboard.

On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 10:42:37 AM UTC-5 Mike Godwin wrote:

> John S
>
> What is fiber board? Masonite? Chipped wood product?
>
>
> Mike "who uses 2 x cardboard glued cross-grain for front basket base" SLO 
> CA 
> On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 5:54:05 AM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:
>
>> I'm with Ian, but instead of plywood, I use 1/8" fiberboard for bike bag 
>> stiffeners. Cut to size and coat with polyurethane to water proof it. Holds 
>> up great, downside is it's heavier than the plastic.
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 4:28:43 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> You could try gluing two pieces of chloroplast together with the "grain" 
>>> of the two pieces running at right angles, or three pieces at 60 deg - 
>>> "plyplast"? 
>>> This assumes that you are using free recycled signs.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 4:14:27 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
>>>
 I don't want to hi-jack this thread, but having been inspired by the 
 "lots of stuff" comment I decided to empty my saddle bag of its contents 
 and weigh it.  2.55 lbs.  So I emptied it and went for an 8 mile round 
 trip 
 ride on the Ram to get some merchandize. The bike handled much better - 
 more lively and a bit easer steering response.  Then I loaded it back up 
 and weighed the merchandize when I got back home. 3.64 lbs.  On the return 
 trip loaded up a noticed the difference right away.  I figure the extra 
 ~lb. or so would be about what the bag contents weighs when I go for an 
 extended ride with a cell phone, key ring, ID+some cash in a thin taxi 
 wallet, and maybe a Clif Bar... so roughly the same weight.  Just sayin'.


 On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 2:23:41 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Well I don't START with lots of stuff but I endeavor to be like Pam 
> (Likes To Bike) and Leah (Bicycle Belle Ding Ding) who do everything on 
> their bikes, so I go shopping and load it up! It sits on a Nitto rack and 
> the stuff on the sides of the bag bend the coroplast down, maybe I should 
> just pull the stiffener and let the rack do the work. 
>
> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:54:29 AM UTC-7 George Schick wrote:
>
>> JB sez "... I carry a lot of stuff!.."  So do I and I'm beginning to 
>> wonder why.  I carry 3-4 different sizes of tubes in case I run into 
>> someone who flats without a spare along with an entire collection of 
>> small 
>> tubes, patches, etc.  Every time I lift it down from the ceiling hooks I 
>> consider ditching most of it.  I think I will...
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 10:12:56 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Oh I didn't bend it, it just collapsed under the weight of stuff in 
>>> there. I carry a lot of stuff! 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:49:57 AM UTC-7 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
>>> NY wrote:
>>>
 As folks have said, more free coroplast will be the ideal solution. 
 However, if you want to make your coroplast last forever, never to go 
 “all 
 bendy and collapsey”, send it around the front and back (or side to 
 side) 
 corners, bending it the hard way. To bend “the hard way”, you’ll want 
 to 
 score the coroplast before bending it. Use a straightedge and 
 something 
 dull to scribe your bend line perpendicular to the corrugations. You 
 don’t 
 want to cut the bends, just dent them enough to follow the lines you 
 want. 
 If you plan it well, you’ll be able to unfold your new insert inside 
 the 
 bag and it’ll lock into the interior dimensions, giving your bag 
 structure 
 forever and ever…
 Happy bagging!
 -Kai
 On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 11:06:34 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Mine is all bendy and collapsey in my medium SaddleSack. What are 
> you folks putting in there to replace it? 
>
> Joe Bernard 
>


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[RBW] Re: What do I replace coroplast with in Sackville

[Mike Godwin]

John S

What is fiber board? Masonite? Chipped wood product?


Mike "who uses 2 x cardboard glued cross-grain for front basket base" SLO 
CA 
On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 5:54:05 AM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:

> I'm with Ian, but instead of plywood, I use 1/8" fiberboard for bike bag 
> stiffeners. Cut to size and coat with polyurethane to water proof it. Holds 
> up great, downside is it's heavier than the plastic.
>
> JohnS
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 4:28:43 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>
>> You could try gluing two pieces of chloroplast together with the "grain" 
>> of the two pieces running at right angles, or three pieces at 60 deg - 
>> "plyplast"? 
>> This assumes that you are using free recycled signs.
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 4:14:27 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
>>
>>> I don't want to hi-jack this thread, but having been inspired by the 
>>> "lots of stuff" comment I decided to empty my saddle bag of its contents 
>>> and weigh it.  2.55 lbs.  So I emptied it and went for an 8 mile round trip 
>>> ride on the Ram to get some merchandize. The bike handled much better - 
>>> more lively and a bit easer steering response.  Then I loaded it back up 
>>> and weighed the merchandize when I got back home. 3.64 lbs.  On the return 
>>> trip loaded up a noticed the difference right away.  I figure the extra 
>>> ~lb. or so would be about what the bag contents weighs when I go for an 
>>> extended ride with a cell phone, key ring, ID+some cash in a thin taxi 
>>> wallet, and maybe a Clif Bar... so roughly the same weight.  Just sayin'.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 2:23:41 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Well I don't START with lots of stuff but I endeavor to be like Pam 
 (Likes To Bike) and Leah (Bicycle Belle Ding Ding) who do everything on 
 their bikes, so I go shopping and load it up! It sits on a Nitto rack and 
 the stuff on the sides of the bag bend the coroplast down, maybe I should 
 just pull the stiffener and let the rack do the work. 

 On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:54:29 AM UTC-7 George Schick wrote:

> JB sez "... I carry a lot of stuff!.."  So do I and I'm beginning to 
> wonder why.  I carry 3-4 different sizes of tubes in case I run into 
> someone who flats without a spare along with an entire collection of 
> small 
> tubes, patches, etc.  Every time I lift it down from the ceiling hooks I 
> consider ditching most of it.  I think I will...
>
> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 10:12:56 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Oh I didn't bend it, it just collapsed under the weight of stuff in 
>> there. I carry a lot of stuff! 
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:49:57 AM UTC-7 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
>> NY wrote:
>>
>>> As folks have said, more free coroplast will be the ideal solution. 
>>> However, if you want to make your coroplast last forever, never to go 
>>> “all 
>>> bendy and collapsey”, send it around the front and back (or side to 
>>> side) 
>>> corners, bending it the hard way. To bend “the hard way”, you’ll want 
>>> to 
>>> score the coroplast before bending it. Use a straightedge and something 
>>> dull to scribe your bend line perpendicular to the corrugations. You 
>>> don’t 
>>> want to cut the bends, just dent them enough to follow the lines you 
>>> want. 
>>> If you plan it well, you’ll be able to unfold your new insert inside 
>>> the 
>>> bag and it’ll lock into the interior dimensions, giving your bag 
>>> structure 
>>> forever and ever…
>>> Happy bagging!
>>> -Kai
>>> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 11:06:34 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Mine is all bendy and collapsey in my medium SaddleSack. What are 
 you folks putting in there to replace it? 

 Joe Bernard 

>>>

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[RBW] Re: What do I replace coroplast with in Sackville

[JohnS]

I'm with Ian, but instead of plywood, I use 1/8" fiberboard for bike bag 
stiffeners. Cut to size and coat with polyurethane to water proof it. Holds 
up great, downside is it's heavier than the plastic.

JohnS


On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 4:28:43 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> You could try gluing two pieces of chloroplast together with the "grain" 
> of the two pieces running at right angles, or three pieces at 60 deg - 
> "plyplast"? 
> This assumes that you are using free recycled signs.
>
> Laing
>
> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 4:14:27 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
>
>> I don't want to hi-jack this thread, but having been inspired by the 
>> "lots of stuff" comment I decided to empty my saddle bag of its contents 
>> and weigh it.  2.55 lbs.  So I emptied it and went for an 8 mile round trip 
>> ride on the Ram to get some merchandize. The bike handled much better - 
>> more lively and a bit easer steering response.  Then I loaded it back up 
>> and weighed the merchandize when I got back home. 3.64 lbs.  On the return 
>> trip loaded up a noticed the difference right away.  I figure the extra 
>> ~lb. or so would be about what the bag contents weighs when I go for an 
>> extended ride with a cell phone, key ring, ID+some cash in a thin taxi 
>> wallet, and maybe a Clif Bar... so roughly the same weight.  Just sayin'.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 2:23:41 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Well I don't START with lots of stuff but I endeavor to be like Pam 
>>> (Likes To Bike) and Leah (Bicycle Belle Ding Ding) who do everything on 
>>> their bikes, so I go shopping and load it up! It sits on a Nitto rack and 
>>> the stuff on the sides of the bag bend the coroplast down, maybe I should 
>>> just pull the stiffener and let the rack do the work. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:54:29 AM UTC-7 George Schick wrote:
>>>
 JB sez "... I carry a lot of stuff!.."  So do I and I'm beginning to 
 wonder why.  I carry 3-4 different sizes of tubes in case I run into 
 someone who flats without a spare along with an entire collection of small 
 tubes, patches, etc.  Every time I lift it down from the ceiling hooks I 
 consider ditching most of it.  I think I will...

 On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 10:12:56 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Oh I didn't bend it, it just collapsed under the weight of stuff in 
> there. I carry a lot of stuff! 
>
> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:49:57 AM UTC-7 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>> As folks have said, more free coroplast will be the ideal solution. 
>> However, if you want to make your coroplast last forever, never to go 
>> “all 
>> bendy and collapsey”, send it around the front and back (or side to 
>> side) 
>> corners, bending it the hard way. To bend “the hard way”, you’ll want to 
>> score the coroplast before bending it. Use a straightedge and something 
>> dull to scribe your bend line perpendicular to the corrugations. You 
>> don’t 
>> want to cut the bends, just dent them enough to follow the lines you 
>> want. 
>> If you plan it well, you’ll be able to unfold your new insert inside the 
>> bag and it’ll lock into the interior dimensions, giving your bag 
>> structure 
>> forever and ever…
>> Happy bagging!
>> -Kai
>> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 11:06:34 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Mine is all bendy and collapsey in my medium SaddleSack. What are 
>>> you folks putting in there to replace it? 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: What do I replace coroplast with in Sackville

[lconley]

You could try gluing two pieces of chloroplast together with the "grain" of 
the two pieces running at right angles, or three pieces at 60 deg - 
"plyplast"? 
This assumes that you are using free recycled signs.

Laing

On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 4:14:27 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:

> I don't want to hi-jack this thread, but having been inspired by the "lots 
> of stuff" comment I decided to empty my saddle bag of its contents and 
> weigh it.  2.55 lbs.  So I emptied it and went for an 8 mile round trip 
> ride on the Ram to get some merchandize. The bike handled much better - 
> more lively and a bit easer steering response.  Then I loaded it back up 
> and weighed the merchandize when I got back home. 3.64 lbs.  On the return 
> trip loaded up a noticed the difference right away.  I figure the extra 
> ~lb. or so would be about what the bag contents weighs when I go for an 
> extended ride with a cell phone, key ring, ID+some cash in a thin taxi 
> wallet, and maybe a Clif Bar... so roughly the same weight.  Just sayin'.
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 2:23:41 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Well I don't START with lots of stuff but I endeavor to be like Pam 
>> (Likes To Bike) and Leah (Bicycle Belle Ding Ding) who do everything on 
>> their bikes, so I go shopping and load it up! It sits on a Nitto rack and 
>> the stuff on the sides of the bag bend the coroplast down, maybe I should 
>> just pull the stiffener and let the rack do the work. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:54:29 AM UTC-7 George Schick wrote:
>>
>>> JB sez "... I carry a lot of stuff!.."  So do I and I'm beginning to 
>>> wonder why.  I carry 3-4 different sizes of tubes in case I run into 
>>> someone who flats without a spare along with an entire collection of small 
>>> tubes, patches, etc.  Every time I lift it down from the ceiling hooks I 
>>> consider ditching most of it.  I think I will...
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 10:12:56 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Oh I didn't bend it, it just collapsed under the weight of stuff in 
 there. I carry a lot of stuff! 

 On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:49:57 AM UTC-7 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
 wrote:

> As folks have said, more free coroplast will be the ideal solution. 
> However, if you want to make your coroplast last forever, never to go 
> “all 
> bendy and collapsey”, send it around the front and back (or side to side) 
> corners, bending it the hard way. To bend “the hard way”, you’ll want to 
> score the coroplast before bending it. Use a straightedge and something 
> dull to scribe your bend line perpendicular to the corrugations. You 
> don’t 
> want to cut the bends, just dent them enough to follow the lines you 
> want. 
> If you plan it well, you’ll be able to unfold your new insert inside the 
> bag and it’ll lock into the interior dimensions, giving your bag 
> structure 
> forever and ever…
> Happy bagging!
> -Kai
> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 11:06:34 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Mine is all bendy and collapsey in my medium SaddleSack. What are you 
>> folks putting in there to replace it? 
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: What do I replace coroplast with in Sackville

[George Schick]

I don't want to hi-jack this thread, but having been inspired by the "lots 
of stuff" comment I decided to empty my saddle bag of its contents and 
weigh it.  2.55 lbs.  So I emptied it and went for an 8 mile round trip 
ride on the Ram to get some merchandize. The bike handled much better - 
more lively and a bit easer steering response.  Then I loaded it back up 
and weighed the merchandize when I got back home. 3.64 lbs.  On the return 
trip loaded up a noticed the difference right away.  I figure the extra 
~lb. or so would be about what the bag contents weighs when I go for an 
extended ride with a cell phone, key ring, ID+some cash in a thin taxi 
wallet, and maybe a Clif Bar... so roughly the same weight.  Just sayin'.


On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 2:23:41 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Well I don't START with lots of stuff but I endeavor to be like Pam (Likes 
> To Bike) and Leah (Bicycle Belle Ding Ding) who do everything on their 
> bikes, so I go shopping and load it up! It sits on a Nitto rack and the 
> stuff on the sides of the bag bend the coroplast down, maybe I should just 
> pull the stiffener and let the rack do the work. 
>
> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:54:29 AM UTC-7 George Schick wrote:
>
>> JB sez "... I carry a lot of stuff!.."  So do I and I'm beginning to 
>> wonder why.  I carry 3-4 different sizes of tubes in case I run into 
>> someone who flats without a spare along with an entire collection of small 
>> tubes, patches, etc.  Every time I lift it down from the ceiling hooks I 
>> consider ditching most of it.  I think I will...
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 10:12:56 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Oh I didn't bend it, it just collapsed under the weight of stuff in 
>>> there. I carry a lot of stuff! 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:49:57 AM UTC-7 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 As folks have said, more free coroplast will be the ideal solution. 
 However, if you want to make your coroplast last forever, never to go “all 
 bendy and collapsey”, send it around the front and back (or side to side) 
 corners, bending it the hard way. To bend “the hard way”, you’ll want to 
 score the coroplast before bending it. Use a straightedge and something 
 dull to scribe your bend line perpendicular to the corrugations. You don’t 
 want to cut the bends, just dent them enough to follow the lines you want. 
 If you plan it well, you’ll be able to unfold your new insert inside the 
 bag and it’ll lock into the interior dimensions, giving your bag structure 
 forever and ever…
 Happy bagging!
 -Kai
 On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 11:06:34 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Mine is all bendy and collapsey in my medium SaddleSack. What are you 
> folks putting in there to replace it? 
>
> Joe Bernard 
>


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[RBW] Re: What do I replace coroplast with in Sackville

[Joe Bernard]

Well I don't START with lots of stuff but I endeavor to be like Pam (Likes 
To Bike) and Leah (Bicycle Belle Ding Ding) who do everything on their 
bikes, so I go shopping and load it up! It sits on a Nitto rack and the 
stuff on the sides of the bag bend the coroplast down, maybe I should just 
pull the stiffener and let the rack do the work. 

On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:54:29 AM UTC-7 George Schick wrote:

> JB sez "... I carry a lot of stuff!.."  So do I and I'm beginning to 
> wonder why.  I carry 3-4 different sizes of tubes in case I run into 
> someone who flats without a spare along with an entire collection of small 
> tubes, patches, etc.  Every time I lift it down from the ceiling hooks I 
> consider ditching most of it.  I think I will...
>
> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 10:12:56 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Oh I didn't bend it, it just collapsed under the weight of stuff in 
>> there. I carry a lot of stuff! 
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:49:57 AM UTC-7 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> As folks have said, more free coroplast will be the ideal solution. 
>>> However, if you want to make your coroplast last forever, never to go “all 
>>> bendy and collapsey”, send it around the front and back (or side to side) 
>>> corners, bending it the hard way. To bend “the hard way”, you’ll want to 
>>> score the coroplast before bending it. Use a straightedge and something 
>>> dull to scribe your bend line perpendicular to the corrugations. You don’t 
>>> want to cut the bends, just dent them enough to follow the lines you want. 
>>> If you plan it well, you’ll be able to unfold your new insert inside the 
>>> bag and it’ll lock into the interior dimensions, giving your bag structure 
>>> forever and ever…
>>> Happy bagging!
>>> -Kai
>>> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 11:06:34 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Mine is all bendy and collapsey in my medium SaddleSack. What are you 
 folks putting in there to replace it? 

 Joe Bernard 

>>>

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[RBW] Re: What do I replace coroplast with in Sackville

[Mike Godwin]

Get a 6-pack of the thin plastic cutting boards, dollar store or other such 
place. They come in different weights. I use them in bags i make pushed 
into sleeves. 

Mike SLO CA 
On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 11:12:50 AM UTC-7 Ian A wrote:

> In a set of Lone Peak panniers I used to have, the plastic stiffeners they 
> came with  actually broke to pieces. I replaced them with thin sheets of 
> plywood. Perhaps 1/4" thick.  Sand and round the edges so it doesn't abrade 
> through the fabric. It would be a more permanent solution compared to new 
> coroplast.
>
> IanA Alberta Canada
>
> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 9:06:34 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Mine is all bendy and collapsey in my medium SaddleSack. What are you 
>> folks putting in there to replace it? 
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: What do I replace coroplast with in Sackville

[Ian A]

In a set of Lone Peak panniers I used to have, the plastic stiffeners they 
came with  actually broke to pieces. I replaced them with thin sheets of 
plywood. Perhaps 1/4" thick.  Sand and round the edges so it doesn't abrade 
through the fabric. It would be a more permanent solution compared to new 
coroplast.

IanA Alberta Canada

On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 9:06:34 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Mine is all bendy and collapsey in my medium SaddleSack. What are you 
> folks putting in there to replace it? 
>
> Joe Bernard 
>

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[RBW] Re: What do I replace coroplast with in Sackville

[George Schick]

JB sez "... I carry a lot of stuff!.."  So do I and I'm beginning to wonder 
why.  I carry 3-4 different sizes of tubes in case I run into someone who 
flats without a spare along with an entire collection of small tubes, 
patches, etc.  Every time I lift it down from the ceiling hooks I consider 
ditching most of it.  I think I will...

On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 10:12:56 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Oh I didn't bend it, it just collapsed under the weight of stuff in there. 
> I carry a lot of stuff! 
>
> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:49:57 AM UTC-7 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>> As folks have said, more free coroplast will be the ideal solution. 
>> However, if you want to make your coroplast last forever, never to go “all 
>> bendy and collapsey”, send it around the front and back (or side to side) 
>> corners, bending it the hard way. To bend “the hard way”, you’ll want to 
>> score the coroplast before bending it. Use a straightedge and something 
>> dull to scribe your bend line perpendicular to the corrugations. You don’t 
>> want to cut the bends, just dent them enough to follow the lines you want. 
>> If you plan it well, you’ll be able to unfold your new insert inside the 
>> bag and it’ll lock into the interior dimensions, giving your bag structure 
>> forever and ever…
>> Happy bagging!
>> -Kai
>> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 11:06:34 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Mine is all bendy and collapsey in my medium SaddleSack. What are you 
>>> folks putting in there to replace it? 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: What do I replace coroplast with in Sackville

[Joe Bernard]

Oh I didn't bend it, it just collapsed under the weight of stuff in there. 
I carry a lot of stuff! 

On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:49:57 AM UTC-7 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> As folks have said, more free coroplast will be the ideal solution. 
> However, if you want to make your coroplast last forever, never to go “all 
> bendy and collapsey”, send it around the front and back (or side to side) 
> corners, bending it the hard way. To bend “the hard way”, you’ll want to 
> score the coroplast before bending it. Use a straightedge and something 
> dull to scribe your bend line perpendicular to the corrugations. You don’t 
> want to cut the bends, just dent them enough to follow the lines you want. 
> If you plan it well, you’ll be able to unfold your new insert inside the 
> bag and it’ll lock into the interior dimensions, giving your bag structure 
> forever and ever…
> Happy bagging!
> -Kai
> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 11:06:34 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Mine is all bendy and collapsey in my medium SaddleSack. What are you 
>> folks putting in there to replace it? 
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: What do I replace coroplast with in Sackville

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

As folks have said, more free coroplast will be the ideal solution. 
However, if you want to make your coroplast last forever, never to go “all 
bendy and collapsey”, send it around the front and back (or side to side) 
corners, bending it the hard way. To bend “the hard way”, you’ll want to 
score the coroplast before bending it. Use a straightedge and something 
dull to scribe your bend line perpendicular to the corrugations. You don’t 
want to cut the bends, just dent them enough to follow the lines you want. 
If you plan it well, you’ll be able to unfold your new insert inside the 
bag and it’ll lock into the interior dimensions, giving your bag structure 
forever and ever…
Happy bagging!
-Kai
On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 11:06:34 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Mine is all bendy and collapsey in my medium SaddleSack. What are you 
> folks putting in there to replace it? 
>
> Joe Bernard 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: What do I replace coroplast with in Sackville

[Brian Turner]

Those hideous campaign yard signs were the first thing that popped into my mind as an abundant source of coroplast or corex. Might as well take something negative and turn it into a positive reuse!On Apr 18, 2023, at 8:12 AM, George Schick  wrote:I hadn't thought about using left over election coroplast signs for this application, but I will now.  Good idea.  What I have used, though is YUPO, an artificial paper.  It's available at art supply stores in big sheets and it can easily be cut to fit any bag dimensions.  It's waterproof. Plus, it's white so it brightens up the interior of dark bags so you can see what's in them better.On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 10:39:54 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:The signs posted for political campaigns that are sometimes never taken up are coroplast.  Remove the sign since it's litter and use that.  I can send some if you have the measurements.On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 11:06:34 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:Mine is all bendy and collapsey in my medium SaddleSack. What are you folks putting in there to replace it? Joe Bernard 



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[RBW] Re: What do I replace coroplast with in Sackville

[George Schick]

I hadn't thought about using left over election coroplast signs for this 
application, but I will now.  Good idea.  What I have used, though is YUPO, 
an artificial paper.  It's available at art supply stores in big sheets and 
it can easily be cut to fit any bag dimensions.  It's waterproof. Plus, 
it's white so it brightens up the interior of dark bags so you can see 
what's in them better.

On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 10:39:54 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:

> The signs posted for political campaigns that are sometimes never taken up 
> are coroplast.  Remove the sign since it's litter and use that.  I can send 
> some if you have the measurements.
>
>
> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 11:06:34 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Mine is all bendy and collapsey in my medium SaddleSack. What are you 
>> folks putting in there to replace it? 
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: What do I replace coroplast with in Sackville

[Jan O.]

I just replaced the original coroplast from my small Sackville bag with 
Plastic Corrugated Sheets I found at Office Depot. I used two sheets, cut 
to size, for stronger support and masking tape around the edges to bound 
them together and cover the sharp edges.

Jan
San Francisco, CA

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[RBW] Re: What do I replace coroplast with in Sackville

[Joe Bernard]

That's brilliant, Pam! I never in a million years would have thought of 
campaign signs. Dimensions are 15x9 inches. 

Thanks!
Joe 

On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 8:39:54 PM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:

> The signs posted for political campaigns that are sometimes never taken up 
> are coroplast.  Remove the sign since it's litter and use that.  I can send 
> some if you have the measurements.
>
>
> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 11:06:34 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Mine is all bendy and collapsey in my medium SaddleSack. What are you 
>> folks putting in there to replace it? 
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: What do I replace coroplast with in Sackville

[Pam Bikes]

The signs posted for political campaigns that are sometimes never taken up 
are coroplast.  Remove the sign since it's litter and use that.  I can send 
some if you have the measurements.


On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 11:06:34 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Mine is all bendy and collapsey in my medium SaddleSack. What are you 
> folks putting in there to replace it? 
>
> Joe Bernard 
>

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