[RBW] Re: What v-brakes for Susie?

[Nick Payne]

No, I think the nominal max tyre size on the Appaloosa is 55mm. I was 
actually talking about the max tyre size you could fit under the XT M780 
brakes if you had them on a frame with sufficient clearance.

On Saturday, 31 October 2020 11:39:56 UTC+11, Mark Roland wrote:
>
> Actually it looks like you would run into the fork crown before getting 
> near the cable. Does the App really take a 70mm (2.8") tire?!
>
> On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 10:01:37 PM UTC-4, Nick Payne wrote:
>>
>> Here are XT BR-M780 calipers on an Appaloosa, over Antelope Hill 55mm 
>> tyres plus VO fenders. The fenders are ~15mm above the tyre, so without 
>> fenders you could fit around a 70mm tyre without fouling the cable. The 
>> travel agent matches the cable pull with drop bar levers:
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> On Tuesday, 20 October 2020 02:26:05 UTC+11, igor wrote:
>>>
>>> What clears a 2.6? a 2.8?
>>>
>>> Additionally - anyone have such variety for sale and also brake levers?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: What v-brakes for Susie?

[Mark Roland]

Never mind, I figured it out. $35 for a set of brakes, $40 for shipping. 
Just can't do it. At least the white ones are only $25 shipping.

On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 1:01:15 PM UTC-4, lconley wrote:
>
> The Tektro 849 AL is actually still available as the Contek BR-849AL from 
> Holland Bike Shop. I have a set that I am putting on my Cargo Bike. Plenty 
> of clearance for fenders and non-anodized, non-painted aluminum so they can 
> be polished
>
> [image: IMG_0711.jpg]
>
>
> Laing
>
> Delray Beach FL
>
>
> On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 12:43:02 PM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>>
>> Igor, did you figure out what to go with? I am running into an issue with 
>> adding fenders to my Hubbuhubbuh--even the Shimano DXR MX70 that Riv 
>> sells (sold out) and I have on my Susie are 110, and there is still lots of 
>> room to bring the fenders in to the  frame and away from the fender/tire, 
>> giving the tire better clearance. The Tektro 849AL on the gravel list is no 
>> longer available. Ironically, you can get them in white, which I was 
>> looking for for my Susie, from England. They are pretty cheap brakes, 
>> 20-something for a pair, but shipping doubles that. I think for max 
>> clearance with fenders, cantis are the best option. (I wonder if the longer 
>> arms of the 849 affect the braking power, as longer reach sidepulls and 
>> centerpulls seem to be affected? Any engineers out there?
>> 110 length of the 
>>
>> On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 11:05:32 AM UTC-4, igor wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Mark. I believe this is the link that Daniel linked above: 
>>> https://www.gravelbike.com/v-brake-arm-lengths/
>>>
>>> It is a medium Susie. I may receive it today but alas no rims just yet, 
>>> that may be later this week.
>>> On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 11:27:25 PM UTC-4 Mark Roland wrote:
>>>
 What size Susie? That may or may not make some difference. My v-brake 
 arms are 107mm. I am running 700 x 2.6" Teravail Honchos on RhynoLite XL 
 rims on my size large Susie.  I have about 15mm clearance. The braze-ons 
 are well-placed, so that the pads are right near the end of the slots. If 
 I 
 were running fenders or 2.8s I would look for brakes with longer arms. 
 There is a list somewhere on the internet, but it's getting a bit long in 
 the tooth at this point.


 On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 11:26:05 AM UTC-4, igor wrote:
>
> What clears a 2.6? a 2.8?
>
> Additionally - anyone have such variety for sale and also brake levers?
>
> Thanks
>


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[RBW] Re: What v-brakes for Susie?

[Mark Roland]

Sadly, I don't read Dutch. How long did it take for shipping and how much 
did they charge? thanks!

On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 1:01:15 PM UTC-4, lconley wrote:
>
> The Tektro 849 AL is actually still available as the Contek BR-849AL from 
> Holland Bike Shop. I have a set that I am putting on my Cargo Bike. Plenty 
> of clearance for fenders and non-anodized, non-painted aluminum so they can 
> be polished
>
> [image: IMG_0711.jpg]
>
>
> Laing
>
> Delray Beach FL
>
>
> On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 12:43:02 PM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>>
>> Igor, did you figure out what to go with? I am running into an issue with 
>> adding fenders to my Hubbuhubbuh--even the Shimano DXR MX70 that Riv 
>> sells (sold out) and I have on my Susie are 110, and there is still lots of 
>> room to bring the fenders in to the  frame and away from the fender/tire, 
>> giving the tire better clearance. The Tektro 849AL on the gravel list is no 
>> longer available. Ironically, you can get them in white, which I was 
>> looking for for my Susie, from England. They are pretty cheap brakes, 
>> 20-something for a pair, but shipping doubles that. I think for max 
>> clearance with fenders, cantis are the best option. (I wonder if the longer 
>> arms of the 849 affect the braking power, as longer reach sidepulls and 
>> centerpulls seem to be affected? Any engineers out there?
>> 110 length of the 
>>
>> On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 11:05:32 AM UTC-4, igor wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Mark. I believe this is the link that Daniel linked above: 
>>> https://www.gravelbike.com/v-brake-arm-lengths/
>>>
>>> It is a medium Susie. I may receive it today but alas no rims just yet, 
>>> that may be later this week.
>>> On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 11:27:25 PM UTC-4 Mark Roland wrote:
>>>
 What size Susie? That may or may not make some difference. My v-brake 
 arms are 107mm. I am running 700 x 2.6" Teravail Honchos on RhynoLite XL 
 rims on my size large Susie.  I have about 15mm clearance. The braze-ons 
 are well-placed, so that the pads are right near the end of the slots. If 
 I 
 were running fenders or 2.8s I would look for brakes with longer arms. 
 There is a list somewhere on the internet, but it's getting a bit long in 
 the tooth at this point.


 On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 11:26:05 AM UTC-4, igor wrote:
>
> What clears a 2.6? a 2.8?
>
> Additionally - anyone have such variety for sale and also brake levers?
>
> Thanks
>


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[RBW] Re: What v-brakes for Susie?

[Mark Roland]

Actually it looks like you would run into the fork crown before getting 
near the cable. Does the App really take a 70mm (2.8") tire?!

On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 10:01:37 PM UTC-4, Nick Payne wrote:
>
> Here are XT BR-M780 calipers on an Appaloosa, over Antelope Hill 55mm 
> tyres plus VO fenders. The fenders are ~15mm above the tyre, so without 
> fenders you could fit around a 70mm tyre without fouling the cable. The 
> travel agent matches the cable pull with drop bar levers:
>
>
> 
>
> Nick
>
> On Tuesday, 20 October 2020 02:26:05 UTC+11, igor wrote:
>>
>> What clears a 2.6? a 2.8?
>>
>> Additionally - anyone have such variety for sale and also brake levers?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: What v-brakes for Susie?

[Nick Payne]

Here are XT BR-M780 calipers on an Appaloosa, over Antelope Hill 55mm tyres 
plus VO fenders. The fenders are ~15mm above the tyre, so without fenders 
you could fit around a 70mm tyre without fouling the cable. The travel 
agent matches the cable pull with drop bar levers:



Nick

On Tuesday, 20 October 2020 02:26:05 UTC+11, igor wrote:
>
> What clears a 2.6? a 2.8?
>
> Additionally - anyone have such variety for sale and also brake levers?
>
> Thanks
>

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[RBW] Re: What v-brakes for Susie?

[Mark Roland]

Igor, did you figure out what to go with? I am running into an issue with 
adding fenders to my Hubbuhubbuh--even the Shimano DXR MX70 that Riv sells 
(sold out) and I have on my Susie are 110, and there is still lots of room 
to bring the fenders in to the  frame and away from the fender/tire, giving 
the tire better clearance. The Tektro 849AL on the gravel list is no longer 
available. Ironically, you can get them in white, which I was looking for 
for my Susie, from England. They are pretty cheap brakes, 20-something for 
a pair, but shipping doubles that. I think for max clearance with fenders, 
cantis are the best option. (I wonder if the longer arms of the 849 affect 
the braking power, as longer reach sidepulls and centerpulls seem to be 
affected? Any engineers out there?
110 length of the 

On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 11:05:32 AM UTC-4, igor wrote:
>
> Thanks Mark. I believe this is the link that Daniel linked above: 
> https://www.gravelbike.com/v-brake-arm-lengths/
>
> It is a medium Susie. I may receive it today but alas no rims just yet, 
> that may be later this week.
> On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 11:27:25 PM UTC-4 Mark Roland wrote:
>
>> What size Susie? That may or may not make some difference. My v-brake 
>> arms are 107mm. I am running 700 x 2.6" Teravail Honchos on RhynoLite XL 
>> rims on my size large Susie.  I have about 15mm clearance. The braze-ons 
>> are well-placed, so that the pads are right near the end of the slots. If I 
>> were running fenders or 2.8s I would look for brakes with longer arms. 
>> There is a list somewhere on the internet, but it's getting a bit long in 
>> the tooth at this point.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 11:26:05 AM UTC-4, igor wrote:
>>>
>>> What clears a 2.6? a 2.8?
>>>
>>> Additionally - anyone have such variety for sale and also brake levers?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: What v-brakes for Susie?

[igor]

Thanks Mark. I believe this is the link that Daniel linked 
above: https://www.gravelbike.com/v-brake-arm-lengths/

It is a medium Susie. I may receive it today but alas no rims just yet, 
that may be later this week.
On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 11:27:25 PM UTC-4 Mark Roland wrote:

> What size Susie? That may or may not make some difference. My v-brake arms 
> are 107mm. I am running 700 x 2.6" Teravail Honchos on RhynoLite XL rims on 
> my size large Susie.  I have about 15mm clearance. The braze-ons are 
> well-placed, so that the pads are right near the end of the slots. If I 
> were running fenders or 2.8s I would look for brakes with longer arms. 
> There is a list somewhere on the internet, but it's getting a bit long in 
> the tooth at this point.
>
>
> On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 11:26:05 AM UTC-4, igor wrote:
>>
>> What clears a 2.6? a 2.8?
>>
>> Additionally - anyone have such variety for sale and also brake levers?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: What v-brakes for Susie?

[igor]

Great, thanks! Should have the Susie on Thursday this week and will do some 
measurements and see what works!

On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 9:25:52 AM UTC-4 Ash wrote:

> For a couple of weeks I had used Avid single digit 7 v-brakes, with 
> 650bx2.15 Almotion tires.  Felt like there was just enough room for 
> fenders.  Hence these brakes *won't* be an option for those wider tires 
> you want to use.
>
>  Now I'm running Avid Shorty Ultimate cantis.
>
>
> On Monday, 19 October 2020 at 21:21:02 UTC-7 Daniel M wrote:
>
>> Igor,
>>
>> Not sure if you've seen this but if it were me, I'd get the longest arms 
>> I could find. Looks like 110mm is easy to find and there is one Tektro 
>> model at 120mm:
>>
>> https://www.gravelbike.com/v-brake-arm-lengths/
>>
>> Daniel M
>> Berkeley, CA
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: What v-brakes for Susie?

[Joe Bernard]

Email for the brakes:

joeremi62 gmail com 

On Wednesday, October 21, 2020 at 1:13:43 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

>
> I have a Deore XT set I just bought NOS from the dreaded auction site. 
> Arms are XT-M780, 107mm. I put them on my custom and rode a few miles 
> (current COVID situation is I don't ride much), then got another bike with 
> Paul cantis, then I sold that frame and kept the brakes so... it's a long 
> story but these v-brakes and levers are for sale!
>
> New condition, no scratches, out of production and cost me a ridiculous  
> amount of money so can't sell too cheap. 
> $150 shipped. 
>
> First dibs to Igor but holler if you're not him and want them, I'll check 
> with him first. 
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/EEYmuMGYYduP2Dbf7
>
> Thanks,
> Joe Bernard 
> On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 8:26:05 AM UTC-7 igor wrote:
>
>> What clears a 2.6? a 2.8?
>>
>> Additionally - anyone have such variety for sale and also brake levers?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: What v-brakes for Susie?

[Joe Bernard]

I have a Deore XT set I just bought NOS from the dreaded auction site. Arms 
are XT-M780, 107mm. I put them on my custom and rode a few miles (current 
COVID situation is I don't ride much), then got another bike with Paul 
cantis, then I sold that frame and kept the brakes so... it's a long story 
but these v-brakes and levers are for sale!

New condition, no scratches, out of production and cost me a ridiculous  
amount of money so can't sell too cheap. 
$150 shipped. 

First dibs to Igor but holler if you're not him and want them, I'll check 
with him first. 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/EEYmuMGYYduP2Dbf7

Thanks,
Joe Bernard 
On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 8:26:05 AM UTC-7 igor wrote:

> What clears a 2.6? a 2.8?
>
> Additionally - anyone have such variety for sale and also brake levers?
>
> Thanks
>

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[RBW] Re: What v-brakes for Susie?

[Mark Roland]

What size Susie? That may or may not make some difference. My v-brake arms 
are 107mm. I am running 700 x 2.6" Teravail Honchos on RhynoLite XL rims on 
my size large Susie.  I have about 15mm clearance. The braze-ons are 
well-placed, so that the pads are right near the end of the slots. If I 
were running fenders or 2.8s I would look for brakes with longer arms. 
There is a list somewhere on the internet, but it's getting a bit long in 
the tooth at this point.


On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 11:26:05 AM UTC-4, igor wrote:
>
> What clears a 2.6? a 2.8?
>
> Additionally - anyone have such variety for sale and also brake levers?
>
> Thanks
>

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[RBW] Re: What v-brakes for Susie?

[Mark Roland]

What size Susie? That may or may not make some difference. My v-brake arms 
are 107mm. Running 2.6 Te
.

On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 11:26:05 AM UTC-4, igor wrote:
>
> What clears a 2.6? a 2.8?
>
> Additionally - anyone have such variety for sale and also brake levers?
>
> Thanks
>

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[RBW] Re: What v-brakes for Susie?

[Ash]

For a couple of weeks I had used Avid single digit 7 v-brakes, with 
650bx2.15 Almotion tires.  Felt like there was just enough room for 
fenders.  Hence these brakes *won't* be an option for those wider tires you 
want to use.

 Now I'm running Avid Shorty Ultimate cantis.


On Monday, 19 October 2020 at 21:21:02 UTC-7 Daniel M wrote:

> Igor,
>
> Not sure if you've seen this but if it were me, I'd get the longest arms I 
> could find. Looks like 110mm is easy to find and there is one Tektro model 
> at 120mm:
>
> https://www.gravelbike.com/v-brake-arm-lengths/
>
> Daniel M
> Berkeley, CA
>

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