[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-19 Thread Philip Williamson
I have this. I like it a lot.

 Philip
97128

On Jun 18, 7:55 am, Sarah Gibson sadieja...@hotmail.com wrote:
 maybe someone has mentioned this already and if so, sorry for the repeat.
 but ive found the carradice barley to double as a great handlebar bag.
 reckon it may depend on yr handlebar setup
 and yes i have a small bag support/rack under it in front...

 well behaved women rarely make history
 _ride yr friggin bicycle_

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-18 Thread Ablejack
do want some guu on a bike!  Maybe if I had a fine fine bike (Think
Singer, Herse, Toei) but the ol' Saluki will have to do with the
simple berthoud bags.  I hang six berthouds on it at once if needed.
special small pannies, small pannies, 28, and saddle.

On Jun 11, 4:29 pm, stevep33 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
 Has anyone out there tried the Guu-Watanabe handlebar bags?

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RE: [RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-18 Thread Sarah Gibson

maybe someone has mentioned this already and if so, sorry for the repeat. 
but ive found the carradice barley to double as a great handlebar bag. 
reckon it may depend on yr handlebar setup
and yes i have a small bag support/rack under it in front...



well behaved women rarely make history
_ride yr friggin bicycle_
 




  

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-18 Thread Patrick in VT


On Jun 17, 10:21 am, Buck ahurv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I did not want to have to use a rack or decaleur because I wanted to
 be able to ride the bike without the bag on it.

not following you here - it takes me approximately one second to lift
my front bag off of a small rack and out of a stem mounted decaleur.
in fact, i'm sure it's an easier on/off than mounting the acorn.

 I wanted it to be small enough to not affect handling.

not following that either.  even a small bar bag can affect handling
if everything else isn't in sync.  there's more to the handling
equation than bag size, for sure.

not advocating for one thing over another, just sayin . ...

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-17 Thread Buck
I've been following this thread for a while and not responding because
I don't have/want a large handlebar bag. I'm more into day rides and
just need something smaller. After looking at a bazillion different
bags (Brand V, Carradice, Ortlieb, etc.) and trying to get the right
look/functionality to match my old-school Atlantis (hammered honjos,
shellacked bars, a Keven on the saddle), I went with the Acorn
handlebar bag and I love it. Here's why:

It more or less matches the Keven (in tan). So it looks right on the
bike. I wanted a separate secure pocket on the back or side for my
cell phone. Another for a point and shoot camera. The two pockets on
the back of the Acorn with fasteners are perfect.

I needed enough room for a sandwich, a wind-shirt and a few odds and
ends (tools, lock, etc., in Keven). That fits nicely in the zippered
main compartment.

I did not want to have to use a rack or decaleur because I wanted to
be able to ride the bike without the bag on it, and I just wanted a
nice clean look when the bag wasn't on there.

I wanted it to be small enough to not affect handling.

The Acorn is perfect because it is extremely well made. Tensioned
properly, it is quiet and secure. It is beautiful to look at when I am
riding and easy to access. It stays dry.

It only costs $100 (feels weird saying only $100).

And... I felt good that I was supporting a husband and wife business
that they are passionate about.

There you have it... Buck



On Jun 10, 2:22 pm, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote:
 The one remaining thing I need to complete my Saluki (Sure, sure you  
 say!) is a handlebar bag. What's your favorite, and why?

 I will use it on increasingly longer rides in variable weather (I'm in  
 Seattle!), carrying a Panasonic GF1...or a Voigtlander Vitessa on my  
 film days...jacket, rain-chaps, sandwich, banana, and so on, and  
 possibly an S24O later in the season. I have a Berthoud 786 saddle  
 bag, which is large enough for tools and an extra tube, etc. and could  
 be used in conjunction with a smaller bag up front, or left at home if  
 I have a larger bag. Having sold my motorcycle, cost is not so much of  
 a consideration. It's going on a 62cm Saluki on which I have the bars  
 set quite high, so there is approximately six feet of room between the  
 Mark's rack and the handlebars I'm not married to the Mark's rack,  
 if a smaller bag hanging off the bars will work.

 For summer day-long rides something small could work. Just need room  
 for food and camera. For the rest of the year, I'll need additional  
 space for clothing.

 I've been eyeing these larger ones: Inujirushi, Acorn boxy rando,  
 Berthoud 28, and these smaller ones: Berthoud 192, Acorn medium  
 handlebar bag, Sackville BarSack and Ortlieb Ultimate 5. Being rain-
 proof is a serious consideration, 'cause as you know it rains eight  
 months of the year here. A rain cover would do fine though, because it  
 does NOT rain for the other four months. :) I like the idea of waxed  
 canvas, as long as it'll keep the camera dry.

 Here's the bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/4673037719/
   Fenders arriving tomorrow, according to UPS!

 Thanks for your consideration.

 Rob in Seattle

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-16 Thread Ablejack
berthoud 28.

On Jun 14, 11:01 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
 Rob:

 I've used the Acorn boxy rando for well over a year now  it's a
 permanent fixture on the bike, both for daily use and extended tours.
 Perfect size; allows full use of h'bars; holds a bunch of stuff.
 IMHO, the perfect front bag.

 dougP

 On Jun 10, 11:22 am, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote: The one 
 remaining thing I need to complete my Saluki (Sure, sure you  
  say!) is a handlebar bag. What's your favorite, and why?

  I will use it on increasingly longer rides in variable weather (I'm in  
  Seattle!), carrying a Panasonic GF1...or a Voigtlander Vitessa on my  
  film days...jacket, rain-chaps, sandwich, banana, and so on, and  
  possibly an S24O later in the season. I have a Berthoud 786 saddle  
  bag, which is large enough for tools and an extra tube, etc. and could  
  be used in conjunction with a smaller bag up front, or left at home if  
  I have a larger bag. Having sold my motorcycle, cost is not so much of  
  a consideration. It's going on a 62cm Saluki on which I have the bars  
  set quite high, so there is approximately six feet of room between the  
  Mark's rack and the handlebars I'm not married to the Mark's rack,  
  if a smaller bag hanging off the bars will work.

  For summer day-long rides something small could work. Just need room  
  for food and camera. For the rest of the year, I'll need additional  
  space for clothing.

  I've been eyeing these larger ones: Inujirushi, Acorn boxy rando,  
  Berthoud 28, and these smaller ones: Berthoud 192, Acorn medium  
  handlebar bag, Sackville BarSack and Ortlieb Ultimate 5. Being rain-
  proof is a serious consideration, 'cause as you know it rains eight  
  months of the year here. A rain cover would do fine though, because it  
  does NOT rain for the other four months. :) I like the idea of waxed  
  canvas, as long as it'll keep the camera dry.

  Here's the bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/4673037719/
    Fenders arriving tomorrow, according to UPS!

  Thanks for your consideration.

  Rob in Seattle

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-16 Thread Frank
Rob,

My 62cm Saluki has a Mark's mini-rack / small Berthoud combo, and it
works great.  That said, I love the Berthoud 28 on my Romulus.  I also
have the Rivendell Baggins Boxy with Nitto rack on another bike, and
that's great too, but it's not as immediately accessible, or at least
with my rigging. We'll be move next week finally, so once that's in
hand you're welcome to come by and look at the bunch and see if any
make more or less sense (we've the same frame sizes, so the aesthetics
will be similar).

See you on STP or at Seattle Crows this summer, I hope.

Frank

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-16 Thread Calm54
I am using a wald basket and a sackville shopsack.

On Jun 16, 5:56 pm, Frank pguil...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rob,

 My 62cm Saluki has a Mark's mini-rack / small Berthoud combo, and it
 works great.  That said, I love the Berthoud 28 on my Romulus.  I also
 have the Rivendell Baggins Boxy with Nitto rack on another bike, and
 that's great too, but it's not as immediately accessible, or at least
 with my rigging. We'll be move next week finally, so once that's in
 hand you're welcome to come by and look at the bunch and see if any
 make more or less sense (we've the same frame sizes, so the aesthetics
 will be similar).

 See you on STP or at Seattle Crows this summer, I hope.

 Frank

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-14 Thread doug peterson
Rob:

I've used the Acorn boxy rando for well over a year now  it's a
permanent fixture on the bike, both for daily use and extended tours.
Perfect size; allows full use of h'bars; holds a bunch of stuff.
IMHO, the perfect front bag.

dougP

On Jun 10, 11:22 am, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote:
 The one remaining thing I need to complete my Saluki (Sure, sure you  
 say!) is a handlebar bag. What's your favorite, and why?

 I will use it on increasingly longer rides in variable weather (I'm in  
 Seattle!), carrying a Panasonic GF1...or a Voigtlander Vitessa on my  
 film days...jacket, rain-chaps, sandwich, banana, and so on, and  
 possibly an S24O later in the season. I have a Berthoud 786 saddle  
 bag, which is large enough for tools and an extra tube, etc. and could  
 be used in conjunction with a smaller bag up front, or left at home if  
 I have a larger bag. Having sold my motorcycle, cost is not so much of  
 a consideration. It's going on a 62cm Saluki on which I have the bars  
 set quite high, so there is approximately six feet of room between the  
 Mark's rack and the handlebars I'm not married to the Mark's rack,  
 if a smaller bag hanging off the bars will work.

 For summer day-long rides something small could work. Just need room  
 for food and camera. For the rest of the year, I'll need additional  
 space for clothing.

 I've been eyeing these larger ones: Inujirushi, Acorn boxy rando,  
 Berthoud 28, and these smaller ones: Berthoud 192, Acorn medium  
 handlebar bag, Sackville BarSack and Ortlieb Ultimate 5. Being rain-
 proof is a serious consideration, 'cause as you know it rains eight  
 months of the year here. A rain cover would do fine though, because it  
 does NOT rain for the other four months. :) I like the idea of waxed  
 canvas, as long as it'll keep the camera dry.

 Here's the bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/4673037719/
   Fenders arriving tomorrow, according to UPS!

 Thanks for your consideration.

 Rob in Seattle

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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-11 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 21:18 -0700, Gino Zahnd wrote:
 The Inujirushi bag has been good to me over the course of 10,000+
 miles. Still looks great.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/3114530816/in/set-72157602102746272/
 http://jitensha.com/eng/inujirushibags.html


The Berthoud bags age very well, too.



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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-11 Thread Esteban
Its difficult to find any fault with the Acorn bags - made right here
in Southern California.  I echo the comments stated here as to the
qualities of the bags.  As an alternative to the Berthouds, I'd also
look at the Loyal Designs rando bag made in Berkeley (sorry, again --
California uber alles!).  They usually have them at Box Dog, often in
a light brown in addition to the blue:

http://www.boxdogbikes.com/blog/?p=2023

I hate to mention it, because the wait list is 3 years, but Adam's
Zugster rando bags are just about perfect, especially in the
waterproof dept. and a modern take on the traditional boxy bag 
rather light:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4135825873/in/set-72157622881252990/

The Inujirushi will fill out the space made by the headtube and h'bars
better than the others, and those are very well made.  So many good
choices.  Certainly, this is a wonderful time to be a bicycler.

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Jun 11, 4:02 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 21:18 -0700, Gino Zahnd wrote:
  The Inujirushi bag has been good to me over the course of 10,000+
  miles. Still looks great.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/3114530816/in/set-72157602102746272/
 http://jitensha.com/eng/inujirushibags.html

 The Berthoud bags age very well, too.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-11 Thread rswatson
I'm not sure I know what you're saying, Gino, but I never bother fastening the 
main lid. Wind and gravity hold it down. I've only fastened it when carrying 
the bike on a car or bus rack. 
I agree they are both excellent bags!

Ryan



On Jun 10, 2010, at 10:33 PM, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote:

 I found the inner opening more difficult - having to fish it through the 
 decaleur to open and/or close took more attention that reaching over the 
 Inujirushi, for me. They're both super nice bags though, and both beautiful.
 
 
  
 What did you find harder to use about the Berthouds?
 I replaced my Inujirushi with a Berthoud for the easier access! My Inujirushi 
 opened the wrong way (away from me when riding). 
 
 Ryan
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-11 Thread Gino Zahnd
I have to fasten bags and lids - riding off road in northern CA is
rough going. So if it ain't strapped, it goes airborne.  :-)

-g

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 7:26 AM,  rswat...@me.com wrote:
 I'm not sure I know what you're saying, Gino, but I never bother fastening 
 the main lid. Wind and gravity hold it down. I've only fastened it when 
 carrying the bike on a car or bus rack.
 I agree they are both excellent bags!

 Ryan



 On Jun 10, 2010, at 10:33 PM, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote:

 I found the inner opening more difficult - having to fish it through the 
 decaleur to open and/or close took more attention that reaching over the 
 Inujirushi, for me. They're both super nice bags though, and both beautiful.



 What did you find harder to use about the Berthouds?
 I replaced my Inujirushi with a Berthoud for the easier access! My 
 Inujirushi opened the wrong way (away from me when riding).

 Ryan





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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread Mike
What Larry and Steve said.

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread stevep33
For a small front rack bag, I like the Bailey Works D-Rack Bag.

It's made for the nitto mini front rack and is similar in size and
function to the Sackville small TrunkSack.  Though I really like that
the D-Rack bag is made to order in any color combo you want.  The
quality is impressive, and mine seems to be waterproof.  I think it
was about $90.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/31353...@n07/sets/72157616085693460/
http://www.baileyworks.com/

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread GeorgeS
I'm in total agreement about the Berthoud bag with a decaleur.  I've
tried a number of different handlebar bags and this is the best by
far.  Be sure to measure the room you have for mounting and get the
right size.  I also agree that the elastic bands are much easier to
use than the leather strap luxe model.  I'm sure the Acorn boxy bag
is very nice but the Berthoud can be obtained from Wallingford or one
of the other outfitters without a long wait.  I try to forget that
it's French.
GeorgeS

On Jun 10, 2:36 pm, Larry Powers lapower...@hotmail.com wrote:
 The bag I find the most functional is my Berthoud Handlebar bag that sits on 
 a small front rack and uses a decaleur.  These come in sizes based on the 
 height of your bars from the rack.  I purchased one with leather straps and 
 buckles but I would recomend one that uses elastic and hooks on all the 
 pockets.  It is much easier to access the pockets while riding with the 
 elastic.  I have a Boxy Baggins and and a C'dale bag that mounts just to the 
 bars.  As the amount of weight goes up the Berthoud bag impacts the bike 
 handling the least.  I am using this bag on my Rambouillet and find it works 
 very well.  There are three factors that may account for this, the bag and 
 therefor the weight is lower, the bag sits closer in to the bars and most of 
 the weight is supported by the rack.  I will be adding a Decaleur and rack to 
 my Atlantis and this bag combined with my Hoss should make for a good 
 minimalist touring rig.

 Larry Powers

 Get a bicycle.  You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain





  From: robha...@gmail.com
  To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [RBW] Your Favorite Handlebar Bag
  Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:22:05 -0700

  The one remaining thing I need to complete my Saluki (Sure, sure you
  say!) is a handlebar bag. What's your favorite, and why?

  I will use it on increasingly longer rides in variable weather (I'm in
  Seattle!), carrying a Panasonic GF1...or a Voigtlander Vitessa on my
  film days...jacket, rain-chaps, sandwich, banana, and so on, and
  possibly an S24O later in the season. I have a Berthoud 786 saddle
  bag, which is large enough for tools and an extra tube, etc. and could
  be used in conjunction with a smaller bag up front, or left at home if
  I have a larger bag. Having sold my motorcycle, cost is not so much of
  a consideration. It's going on a 62cm Saluki on which I have the bars
  set quite high, so there is approximately six feet of room between the
  Mark's rack and the handlebars I'm not married to the Mark's rack,
  if a smaller bag hanging off the bars will work.

  For summer day-long rides something small could work. Just need room
  for food and camera. For the rest of the year, I'll need additional
  space for clothing.

  I've been eyeing these larger ones: Inujirushi, Acorn boxy rando,
  Berthoud 28, and these smaller ones: Berthoud 192, Acorn medium
  handlebar bag, Sackville BarSack and Ortlieb Ultimate 5. Being rain-
  proof is a serious consideration, 'cause as you know it rains eight
  months of the year here. A rain cover would do fine though, because it
  does NOT rain for the other four months. :) I like the idea of waxed
  canvas, as long as it'll keep the camera dry.

  Here's the bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/4673037719/
   Fenders arriving tomorrow, according to UPS!

  Thanks for your consideration.

  Rob in Seattle

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread Mojo
I have only used the Acorn Boxy but like it alot. It requires the
front rack you already have, but no other mounting hardware. It is
very stable, easily attached (with 4 velcros below and two cords
around the brake hoods) and easily moved from bike to bike, or to
carry with you. Only used in short rain rides so far, so I have no
input for you there.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/79695...@n00/4601203765/in/set-72157607471577085/

On Jun 10, 12:22 pm, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote:
 The one remaining thing I need to complete my Saluki (Sure, sure you  
 say!) is a handlebar bag. What's your favorite, and why?

 I will use it on increasingly longer rides in variable weather (I'm in  
 Seattle!), carrying a Panasonic GF1...or a Voigtlander Vitessa on my  
 film days...jacket, rain-chaps, sandwich, banana, and so on, and  
 possibly an S24O later in the season. I have a Berthoud 786 saddle  
 bag, which is large enough for tools and an extra tube, etc. and could  
 be used in conjunction with a smaller bag up front, or left at home if  
 I have a larger bag. Having sold my motorcycle, cost is not so much of  
 a consideration. It's going on a 62cm Saluki on which I have the bars  
 set quite high, so there is approximately six feet of room between the  
 Mark's rack and the handlebars I'm not married to the Mark's rack,  
 if a smaller bag hanging off the bars will work.

 For summer day-long rides something small could work. Just need room  
 for food and camera. For the rest of the year, I'll need additional  
 space for clothing.

 I've been eyeing these larger ones: Inujirushi, Acorn boxy rando,  
 Berthoud 28, and these smaller ones: Berthoud 192, Acorn medium  
 handlebar bag, Sackville BarSack and Ortlieb Ultimate 5. Being rain-
 proof is a serious consideration, 'cause as you know it rains eight  
 months of the year here. A rain cover would do fine though, because it  
 does NOT rain for the other four months. :) I like the idea of waxed  
 canvas, as long as it'll keep the camera dry.

 Here's the bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/4673037719/
   Fenders arriving tomorrow, according to UPS!

 Thanks for your consideration.

 Rob in Seattle

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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 15:33 -0700, GeorgeS wrote:
 I'm in total agreement about the Berthoud bag with a decaleur.  I've
 tried a number of different handlebar bags and this is the best by
 far.  Be sure to measure the room you have for mounting and get the
 right size.  I also agree that the elastic bands are much easier to
 use than the leather strap luxe model. 

The pockets inside the top flap on the deluxe bags are nice.  There's a
place that's perfect for a brevet card, and there's a zippered pocket
that makes a nice place to stash a $20 and forget it until you need it.
The model with the elastics lacks those features.  But it's true, it is
definitely easier to get into the elastic-closed pockets than the
straps.



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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread rperks
I keep my GF-1 in a Tamrac Mosel 3320 - Areo Zoom 20.  I find this
fits perfectly in my Acorn bag.  I leave both bags unzipped for quick
access while riding. there is a bit of room to spare next to the
camera bag and then the two little pockest for incidentals like wallet
phone and keys.  I find having the smaller bag keeps me from
overpacking.  I have seen and contemplated the taller Berthoud bag for
the front, but would try and fill it (OCD) you can see it here on my
Roadeo, th epic has circulated before.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/36302...@n08/4380585188/in/set-72157622875811028/

It has been working well, bu tnot heavily rain tested, we are spoiled
here in SoCal.  I can still stuff my Canon XTi in the bag as well, bui
tthat fills it far more.  THe Acorn bags are no tas hard to get as
people make it out either, you just have to set a remender for the
first and act kind of quickly

Rob

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 The one remaining thing I need to complete my Saluki (Sure, sure you  
 say!) is a handlebar bag. What's your favorite, and why?

 I will use it on increasingly longer rides in variable weather (I'm in  
 Seattle!), carrying a Panasonic GF1...or a Voigtlander Vitessa on my  
 film days...jacket, rain-chaps, sandwich, banana, and so on, and  
 possibly an S24O later in the season. I have a Berthoud 786 saddle  
 bag, which is large enough for tools and an extra tube, etc. and could  
 be used in conjunction with a smaller bag up front, or left at home if  
 I have a larger bag. Having sold my motorcycle, cost is not so much of  
 a consideration. It's going on a 62cm Saluki on which I have the bars  
 set quite high, so there is approximately six feet of room between the  
 Mark's rack and the handlebars I'm not married to the Mark's rack,  
 if a smaller bag hanging off the bars will work.

 For summer day-long rides something small could work. Just need room  
 for food and camera. For the rest of the year, I'll need additional  
 space for clothing.

 I've been eyeing these larger ones: Inujirushi, Acorn boxy rando,  
 Berthoud 28, and these smaller ones: Berthoud 192, Acorn medium  
 handlebar bag, Sackville BarSack and Ortlieb Ultimate 5. Being rain-
 proof is a serious consideration, 'cause as you know it rains eight  
 months of the year here. A rain cover would do fine though, because it  
 does NOT rain for the other four months. :) I like the idea of waxed  
 canvas, as long as it'll keep the camera dry.

 Here's the bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/4673037719/
   Fenders arriving tomorrow, according to UPS!

 Thanks for your consideration.

 Rob in Seattle

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread Lynne Fitz
I like my Acorn Boxy Bag.  The map case on top is wonderful, and the
turnbuckle closures on the rider-facing little pockets are so easy to
open and close with gloved fingers. Easier than elastic, for sure.
Mine currently sits on a VO Rando front rack (soon to be sitting on a
teeny custom front rack on a custom bicycle, counting, counting,
counting...), with the loop of the rack going through the leather on
the rider-facing side.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/sets/72157614173370630/

Holds lots of stuff.

On Jun 10, 3:43 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 15:33 -0700, GeorgeS wrote:
  I'm in total agreement about the Berthoud bag with a decaleur.  I've
  tried a number of different handlebar bags and this is the best by
  far.  Be sure to measure the room you have for mounting and get the
  right size.  I also agree that the elastic bands are much easier to
  use than the leather strap luxe model.

 The pockets inside the top flap on the deluxe bags are nice.  There's a
 place that's perfect for a brevet card, and there's a zippered pocket
 that makes a nice place to stash a $20 and forget it until you need it.
 The model with the elastics lacks those features.  But it's true, it is
 definitely easier to get into the elastic-closed pockets than the
 straps.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread Brian Hanson
I have an Acorn Boxy - just got it to match my Large Saddlebag for my
Hilsen.  Initial comments before riding:

1. I like the fact that it mounts low and is easy on/off
2. It is well made and seems very stable
3. It's on the small side, so make sure it's big enough for what you will
use it for
4. I'm still looking with lust at the Riv BarSack - quality looks awesome -
just don't like the high mount when I have a perfectly good rack to put it
on.

Brian

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 15:33 -0700, GeorgeS wrote:
  I'm in total agreement about the Berthoud bag with a decaleur.  I've
  tried a number of different handlebar bags and this is the best by
  far.  Be sure to measure the room you have for mounting and get the
  right size.  I also agree that the elastic bands are much easier to
  use than the leather strap luxe model.

 The pockets inside the top flap on the deluxe bags are nice.  There's a
 place that's perfect for a brevet card, and there's a zippered pocket
 that makes a nice place to stash a $20 and forget it until you need it.
 The model with the elastics lacks those features.  But it's true, it is
 definitely easier to get into the elastic-closed pockets than the
 straps.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread Gino Zahnd
The Inujirushi bag has been good to me over the course of 10,000+ miles.
Still looks great.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/3114530816/in/set-72157602102746272/
http://jitensha.com/eng/inujirushibags.html

I personally have found the Berthoud bags harder to use en route, but eh,
you'll probably be happy with any of the
RBW/Berthoud/Acorn/Inujirushi/Watanabe options.

Gino


On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have an Acorn Boxy - just got it to match my Large Saddlebag for my
 Hilsen.  Initial comments before riding:

 1. I like the fact that it mounts low and is easy on/off
 2. It is well made and seems very stable
 3. It's on the small side, so make sure it's big enough for what you will
 use it for
 4. I'm still looking with lust at the Riv BarSack - quality looks awesome -
 just don't like the high mount when I have a perfectly good rack to put it
 on.

 Brian


 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 15:33 -0700, GeorgeS wrote:
  I'm in total agreement about the Berthoud bag with a decaleur.  I've
  tried a number of different handlebar bags and this is the best by
  far.  Be sure to measure the room you have for mounting and get the
  right size.  I also agree that the elastic bands are much easier to
  use than the leather strap luxe model.

 The pockets inside the top flap on the deluxe bags are nice.  There's a
 place that's perfect for a brevet card, and there's a zippered pocket
 that makes a nice place to stash a $20 and forget it until you need it.
 The model with the elastics lacks those features.  But it's true, it is
 definitely easier to get into the elastic-closed pockets than the
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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread rswatson




On Jun 10, 2010, at 10:18 PM, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Inujirushi bag has been good to me over the course of 10,000+ miles. 
 Still looks great.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/3114530816/in/set-72157602102746272/
 http://jitensha.com/eng/inujirushibags.html
 
 I personally have found the Berthoud bags harder to use en route, but eh, 
 you'll probably be happy with any of the 
 RBW/Berthoud/Acorn/Inujirushi/Watanabe options.

What did you find harder to use about the Berthouds?
I replaced my Inujirushi with a Berthoud for the easier access! My Inujirushi 
opened the wrong way (away from me when riding). 

Ryan






 
 Gino
 
 
 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have an Acorn Boxy - just got it to match my Large Saddlebag for my Hilsen. 
  Initial comments before riding:
 
 1. I like the fact that it mounts low and is easy on/off
 2. It is well made and seems very stable
 3. It's on the small side, so make sure it's big enough for what you will use 
 it for
 4. I'm still looking with lust at the Riv BarSack - quality looks awesome - 
 just don't like the high mount when I have a perfectly good rack to put it on.
 
 Brian
 
 
 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 15:33 -0700, GeorgeS wrote:
  I'm in total agreement about the Berthoud bag with a decaleur.  I've
  tried a number of different handlebar bags and this is the best by
  far.  Be sure to measure the room you have for mounting and get the
  right size.  I also agree that the elastic bands are much easier to
  use than the leather strap luxe model.
 
 The pockets inside the top flap on the deluxe bags are nice.  There's a
 place that's perfect for a brevet card, and there's a zippered pocket
 that makes a nice place to stash a $20 and forget it until you need it.
 The model with the elastics lacks those features.  But it's true, it is
 definitely easier to get into the elastic-closed pockets than the
 straps.
 
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread Gino Zahnd
I found the inner opening more difficult - having to fish it through the
decaleur to open and/or close took more attention that reaching over the
Inujirushi, for me. They're both super nice bags though, and both beautiful.




 What did you find harder to use about the Berthouds?
 I replaced my Inujirushi with a Berthoud for the easier access! My
 Inujirushi opened the wrong way (away from me when riding).

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