Re: [RBW] Re: need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
thanks everyonei was reading on the north road bars and how they're supposed to have a more natural wrist pronation angle than the albatross, in how they slightly flair outwardsinteresting trekking bars: why do they make them so darned wide however? I would love to try a pair if i could get some narrower ones. cyclotourist wrote: > Happy metric Tuesday to you! > > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 6:57 PM, EricP wrote: > > > Or Soma Clarence. They don't have the forward position of the H bar, > > but have the same back sweep. I have a pair on a non-Riv steel bike > > and rode 64 miles on them today. > > > > Wrapped the middle part of the bar to get a second hand position. > > > > Eric Platt > > St. Paul, MN > > > > On May 17, 7:56 pm, Montclair BobbyB > > wrote: > > > Titec H Bars... natural hand position with multiple hand placement > > > options... love em, especially with mountain brifters > > > > > > On May 17, 7:03 pm, Frankwurst wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > M bars it seems are either love or hate. I love'em. rode a 500 mile > > > > tour on them and would do it again tomorrow. To me, if you've never > > > > used them they are worth a try. > > > > > > > On May 17, 3:42 pm, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Try Moustache Bars > > http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-moustache-bar/16-028 > > > > > > > > Folks tend to love or hate them, hence a vibrant re-sell market for > > > > > them :-) Get a stem 1 or 2 cm shorter if you're going to try them. > > > > > I liked them a lot, but missed the extra change of posture a drop bar > > > > > gives you during long rides (>30miles). > > > > > > > > There is also On-One Midge/Soma Junebug that have shallower drops. > > > > > Those are love/hate as well, so YMM(definitely)V. > > > > > > > > On May 17, 11:09 am, canali wrote: > > > > > > > > > just looking to experiement with a bar that will be good for both > > long > > > > > > distance touring as well as everyday commuting. > > > > > > ...the albatross seems a bit wide for me > > > > > > > > > reason: my bike is a tad long (i should be on a 51 vs 53 atlantis) > > so > > > > > > drops are a bit of a reach with 80-90cm stem.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > > > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA > > *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would > probably benefit more from > improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
Both VO and Soma have a few bars that are albatross like, but narrower. Actually, so does Riv, the Dove Bar -- classic 3 speed bars. Cheaper than Albatross too! Soma has that Lauterwasser bar that's sort of half drop half moustache. There seem to be a lot of choices to try! I recently tried the Nitto u-shape bars "B-617 Promenade Handlebar". Mixed feeleings about it. It's narrow - 45cm. I think it needs to be either higher or farther away than is possible on this particular bike so that my knees are well clear. It's comfortable on the grip portion, or to grab it on the horizontal part near the stem clamp. It's still a 'possible' for the simple-one that is hopefully coming soon. I like the albatross. I like drops too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
Salsa Woodchipper, maybe? Very short extension and shallow drop, which make the effective reach a few cm shorter than something like a Noodle. The drops are quite flared, but I find them comfortable. I find Moustaches on a too-long bike to be insufferable. I've mounted and removed mine several times, and the most comfortable application I found was on a bike that was actually a bit too small for me. Bill On May 17, 11:09 am, canali wrote: > just looking to experiement with a bar that will be good for both long > distance touring as well as everyday commuting. > ...the albatross seems a bit wide for me > > reason: my bike is a tad long (i should be on a 51 vs 53 atlantis) so > drops are a bit of a reach with 80-90cm stem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
Happy metric Tuesday to you! On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 6:57 PM, EricP wrote: > Or Soma Clarence. They don't have the forward position of the H bar, > but have the same back sweep. I have a pair on a non-Riv steel bike > and rode 64 miles on them today. > > Wrapped the middle part of the bar to get a second hand position. > > Eric Platt > St. Paul, MN > > On May 17, 7:56 pm, Montclair BobbyB > wrote: > > Titec H Bars... natural hand position with multiple hand placement > > options... love em, especially with mountain brifters > > > > On May 17, 7:03 pm, Frankwurst wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > M bars it seems are either love or hate. I love'em. rode a 500 mile > > > tour on them and would do it again tomorrow. To me, if you've never > > > used them they are worth a try. > > > > > On May 17, 3:42 pm, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" > > > wrote: > > > > > > Try Moustache Bars > http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-moustache-bar/16-028 > > > > > > Folks tend to love or hate them, hence a vibrant re-sell market for > > > > them :-) Get a stem 1 or 2 cm shorter if you're going to try them. > > > > I liked them a lot, but missed the extra change of posture a drop bar > > > > gives you during long rides (>30miles). > > > > > > There is also On-One Midge/Soma Junebug that have shallower drops. > > > > Those are love/hate as well, so YMM(definitely)V. > > > > > > On May 17, 11:09 am, canali wrote: > > > > > > > just looking to experiement with a bar that will be good for both > long > > > > > distance touring as well as everyday commuting. > > > > > ...the albatross seems a bit wide for me > > > > > > > reason: my bike is a tad long (i should be on a 51 vs 53 atlantis) > so > > > > > drops are a bit of a reach with 80-90cm stem.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
Or Soma Clarence. They don't have the forward position of the H bar, but have the same back sweep. I have a pair on a non-Riv steel bike and rode 64 miles on them today. Wrapped the middle part of the bar to get a second hand position. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On May 17, 7:56 pm, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > Titec H Bars... natural hand position with multiple hand placement > options... love em, especially with mountain brifters > > On May 17, 7:03 pm, Frankwurst wrote: > > > > > > > > > M bars it seems are either love or hate. I love'em. rode a 500 mile > > tour on them and would do it again tomorrow. To me, if you've never > > used them they are worth a try. > > > On May 17, 3:42 pm, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" > > wrote: > > > > Try Moustache Bars > > > http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-moustache-bar/16-028 > > > > Folks tend to love or hate them, hence a vibrant re-sell market for > > > them :-) Get a stem 1 or 2 cm shorter if you're going to try them. > > > I liked them a lot, but missed the extra change of posture a drop bar > > > gives you during long rides (>30miles). > > > > There is also On-One Midge/Soma Junebug that have shallower drops. > > > Those are love/hate as well, so YMM(definitely)V. > > > > On May 17, 11:09 am, canali wrote: > > > > > just looking to experiement with a bar that will be good for both long > > > > distance touring as well as everyday commuting. > > > > ...the albatross seems a bit wide for me > > > > > reason: my bike is a tad long (i should be on a 51 vs 53 atlantis) so > > > > drops are a bit of a reach with 80-90cm stem.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
i've realize now i've created the same sort of H-bars with Bullmoose bars and mtn bar-ends slid down towards the middle (and covered in cork - my submission for the cork postcard). you can also reverse the direction of the bar ends, move them, etc., so that give you more options, e.g. more narrow and forward gives you a aero tuck almost, if you want it. wider gives you a comfy shoulder rotation from flat bar. prob work better on a narrower 150cm bullmoose (earlier). but they really aren't as large as they first appear. i'm also a +1 for mustache bars. i used reverse bar-end brakes with m-bars on my Rom, but added dummy lever stubs for the "hoods" position to keep the hand positions open. best, andrew On May 17, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > Titec H Bars... natural hand position with multiple hand placement > options... love em, especially with mountain brifters > > On May 17, 7:03 pm, Frankwurst wrote: >> M bars it seems are either love or hate. I love'em. rode a 500 mile >> tour on them and would do it again tomorrow. To me, if you've never >> used them they are worth a try. >> >> On May 17, 3:42 pm, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Try Moustache Bars >>> http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-moustache-bar/16-028 >> >>> Folks tend to love or hate them, hence a vibrant re-sell market for >>> them :-) Get a stem 1 or 2 cm shorter if you're going to try them. >>> I liked them a lot, but missed the extra change of posture a drop bar >>> gives you during long rides (>30miles). >> >>> There is also On-One Midge/Soma Junebug that have shallower drops. >>> Those are love/hate as well, so YMM(definitely)V. >> >>> On May 17, 11:09 am, canali wrote: >> just looking to experiement with a bar that will be good for both long distance touring as well as everyday commuting. ...the albatross seems a bit wide for me >> reason: my bike is a tad long (i should be on a 51 vs 53 atlantis) so drops are a bit of a reach with 80-90cm stem.- Hide quoted text - >> >>> - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
Titec H Bars... natural hand position with multiple hand placement options... love em, especially with mountain brifters On May 17, 7:03 pm, Frankwurst wrote: > M bars it seems are either love or hate. I love'em. rode a 500 mile > tour on them and would do it again tomorrow. To me, if you've never > used them they are worth a try. > > On May 17, 3:42 pm, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" > wrote: > > > > > Try Moustache Bars > > http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-moustache-bar/16-028 > > > Folks tend to love or hate them, hence a vibrant re-sell market for > > them :-) Get a stem 1 or 2 cm shorter if you're going to try them. > > I liked them a lot, but missed the extra change of posture a drop bar > > gives you during long rides (>30miles). > > > There is also On-One Midge/Soma Junebug that have shallower drops. > > Those are love/hate as well, so YMM(definitely)V. > > > On May 17, 11:09 am, canali wrote: > > > > just looking to experiement with a bar that will be good for both long > > > distance touring as well as everyday commuting. > > > ...the albatross seems a bit wide for me > > > > reason: my bike is a tad long (i should be on a 51 vs 53 atlantis) so > > > drops are a bit of a reach with 80-90cm stem.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
M bars it seems are either love or hate. I love'em. rode a 500 mile tour on them and would do it again tomorrow. To me, if you've never used them they are worth a try. On May 17, 3:42 pm, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" wrote: > Try Moustache Bars > http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-moustache-bar/16-028 > > Folks tend to love or hate them, hence a vibrant re-sell market for > them :-) Get a stem 1 or 2 cm shorter if you're going to try them. > I liked them a lot, but missed the extra change of posture a drop bar > gives you during long rides (>30miles). > > There is also On-One Midge/Soma Junebug that have shallower drops. > Those are love/hate as well, so YMM(definitely)V. > > On May 17, 11:09 am, canali wrote: > > > > > just looking to experiement with a bar that will be good for both long > > distance touring as well as everyday commuting. > > ...the albatross seems a bit wide for me > > > reason: my bike is a tad long (i should be on a 51 vs 53 atlantis) so > > drops are a bit of a reach with 80-90cm stem.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
I successfully used Bell Laps othe Monocog despite the horrendous effective tt length -- I think the effective length was 61 cm, fully 4 more than I choose for my road bikes -- simply by using an upjutter stem and making the bars quite high so that the hooks gave me more or less the position that I have on the hoods on my road bars. Not only comfortable but I found I did not really lose any power (IME, there is a certain back angle above which I lose some pedaling force). I use Noodles on the Fargo, which of course does have my preferred 56- 57 tt but which also has a much longer stem, simply by having the bars high. Short arms, me. On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:42 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: > Try Moustache Bars > http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-moustache-bar/16-028 > > Folks tend to love or hate them, hence a vibrant re-sell market for > them :-) Get a stem 1 or 2 cm shorter if you're going to try them. > I liked them a lot, but missed the extra change of posture a drop bar > gives you during long rides (>30miles). > > There is also On-One Midge/Soma Junebug that have shallower drops. > Those are love/hate as well, so YMM(definitely)V. > > > On May 17, 11:09 am, canali wrote: >> just looking to experiement with a bar that will be good for both long >> distance touring as well as everyday commuting. >> ...the albatross seems a bit wide for me >> >> reason: my bike is a tad long (i should be on a 51 vs 53 atlantis) so >> drops are a bit of a reach with 80-90cm stem. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
I have low-slung Albatross bars on my Kogswell that is my primary commute bike and like them a lot. Plenty of hand positions. I'm in the anti-moustache bar group. Ryan On May 17, 11:09 am, canali wrote: > just looking to experiement with a bar that will be good for both long > distance touring as well as everyday commuting. > ...the albatross seems a bit wide for me > > reason: my bike is a tad long (i should be on a 51 vs 53 atlantis) so > drops are a bit of a reach with 80-90cm stem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
Try Moustache Bars http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-moustache-bar/16-028 Folks tend to love or hate them, hence a vibrant re-sell market for them :-) Get a stem 1 or 2 cm shorter if you're going to try them. I liked them a lot, but missed the extra change of posture a drop bar gives you during long rides (>30miles). There is also On-One Midge/Soma Junebug that have shallower drops. Those are love/hate as well, so YMM(definitely)V. On May 17, 11:09 am, canali wrote: > just looking to experiement with a bar that will be good for both long > distance touring as well as everyday commuting. > ...the albatross seems a bit wide for me > > reason: my bike is a tad long (i should be on a 51 vs 53 atlantis) so > drops are a bit of a reach with 80-90cm stem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
