[RBW] Re: vittoria randonneur touring tire?
You do not say whether you have ever ridden a Schwalbe tire. I, and the many others who have, pay the price for the tire not because of our simian intelligence level but rather because the tires have an amazing combination of smooth ride and long life. I know the prevasive WalMart mentality is that if something can be made cheaply it must be better. That is not my experience. (heck, why not say that a Rawland must be as good as a Riv. It's steel and cheaper after all) I went Schwalbe after years of riding many other tire brands. My experience had been you either got a tire that was comfortable to ride but prone to flats or was durable but felt as though you were riding on granite. I have now added Grad Bois to my list of nice tires. The ride of some of their tires is just amazing. I do not have much experience with Panaracers, but have heard many great accounts of their merchandise. My understanding is that while Panaracer uses its molds when making for other brands it does not always use the same materials. I have an account with Schwalbe North America so do not buy retail. I get my Grand Bois from Bicycle Quarterly which I would hardly classify as a shell game. On Apr 2, 9:10 am, Garth wrote: > Vittoria Randonneur's have plenty of happy users, just jog on over to > Bike Forums. > > I for one don't take much stock in price in a indicator of a tires > quality. These days there is no clear indication of what is, and what > is not a quality tire. > I read plenty of dissatisfied Schwalbe and Continental users. The > thing is, there's infinite variables when it comes to someone's > opinion of a tire. > The human phenomena of monkey-see monkey-copy makes reviewing > things rather comical. > > I'd try the Randonneur's in a heartbeat and not worry about opinions. > Hey, you can buy 3 of these for the price of many Schwalbe's! > > I myself can't see spending $65 on a bike tire. My Michelin truck > tires cost about $80 when I last bought them, as a comparison. > > I've had a great ride with Performance Forte Metro-K 35mm tires > about $14 each. There's another 35mm tire they sell(the Gotham), made > by Panaracer, who sells the same thing,minus the reflective strip. > It's called the Crosstown. Performance sells it for $12 other > places sell the Crosstown for more than double that. So, I don't put > much stock anymore in "more expensive" = a better tire. > Retail is like a giant shell game. sell it for what you can and > hope you can keep the game going :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: vittoria randonneur touring tire?
Vittoria Randonneur's have plenty of happy users, just jog on over to Bike Forums. I for one don't take much stock in price in a indicator of a tires quality. These days there is no clear indication of what is, and what is not a quality tire. I read plenty of dissatisfied Schwalbe and Continental users. The thing is, there's infinite variables when it comes to someone's opinion of a tire. The human phenomena of monkey-see monkey-copy makes reviewing things rather comical. I'd try the Randonneur's in a heartbeat and not worry about opinions. Hey, you can buy 3 of these for the price of many Schwalbe's! I myself can't see spending $65 on a bike tire. My Michelin truck tires cost about $80 when I last bought them, as a comparison. I've had a great ride with Performance Forte Metro-K 35mm tires about $14 each. There's another 35mm tire they sell(the Gotham), made by Panaracer, who sells the same thing,minus the reflective strip. It's called the Crosstown. Performance sells it for $12 other places sell the Crosstown for more than double that. So, I don't put much stock anymore in "more expensive" = a better tire. Retail is like a giant shell game. sell it for what you can and hope you can keep the game going :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: vittoria randonneur touring tire?
I am skeptical of claims that a tire can deliver a good ride and amazing longevity at a price significantly below competitors that specialize in one or the other. Tire quality is primarily a function of raw materials used to build the tire. Quality materials typically cost more than lessor quality materials. Labor costs in Germany and Japan are high, but then tire making is highly automated. In any event, Schwalbe manufactures its tires in Indonesia. There is a lot of competition in the tire market. I doubt very much that Grand Bois, Schwalbe and Continental are expensive because there owners all decided they would get rich off unsuspecting cyclists. On Apr 1, 12:28 pm, happyriding wrote: > Hi, > > Has anyone ridden on these? What is the actual width? Here is what > they look like: > > http://www.airbomb.com/itemMatrix.asp?ic=54868&eq=&Tp=&MatrixType=2&s... > > Here are some reviews: > > http://www.buzzillions.com/reviews/vittoria-randonneur-reviews#single... > > One reviewer said that he has 12,000 miles on them--and no flats! > Another reviewer said he did a coast to coast ride and had no flats. > The cost under $25. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: vittoria randonneur touring tire?
I haven't tried any of the the Randonneuring models( they have about 10+versions) but other Vittorias I've ridden have not lasted that long. I was wondering how true to size they are. They do make a few Rando models in 40mm width that I've looked at. ~Mike~ On Apr 1, 11:00 am, Bruce wrote: > My Randoneuring local pal says they are nice tires to roll on, but noticeably > shorter lived than Contis or Schwalbes. He actually rolled up to our Tuesday > hill drill ride on Bontragers... > > > From: cyclotourist > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 12:32:52 PM > Subject: Re: [RBW] vittoria randonneur touring tire? > > There was some discussion about them earlier. Most responders seem to like > them more than Paselas, but a few saying Paselas feel/roll nicer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
