Re: [RBW] Stolen Royal H Mixte Ventura
Interesting about the insurance... Curious if you have a specific rider for your bike(s) or just general homeowner coverage. In glad you got it back and have that option. Its a tough call given the one-of-a-kind nature of the bike. If you keep it the bike has even more 'story' behind it now, it's famous and infamous! Good luck with your decision, let us know how it turns out. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Stolen Royal H Mixte Ventura
All, Thanks for your comments - thanks for the thoughts - - I'm on a road trip to Seattle for work/fun. Taking my bromptom. I must agree with all commenters -- the correct thing to do would have call the Police -- which I did do -- three times. I also asked them to send a parol car. I've never heard from them yet -- even my case officer. The second owner cannot own title to the stolen bike. I know this but was prompted by my SO to get the bike back. I wouldn't recommend meeting with third parties to others. She saw my offer on craigslist for reward after buying it at a good price at the swap meet from a sketch fellow. Also, wheels and seat couldn't be removed -- I have unusual metric bolt on them. and the seat post/stem is a little damaged from the thieves trying to pry it off. That maybe why it came back plus I have had serious talks (no kidding) with the pawn shops in the area and the law of bailment and licensure. I also know the local bike shops pretty well. Agree whole-heartedly with the idea of community support. When I see a stolen bike in the area -- especially Rivs -- it kills me. Another note is my insurance company still wishes to pay the claim if I donate the bike -- they are worried about liability and frame damage. Trying to decide. It's a good place to be. Thanks for all the commenters. If you are down in Ventura give me an email. I'd love to meet up and ride. I missed the Ocean Air Cycles ride a few months back. I'm on my way to Portland today. Warm regards, Pam On Aug 16, 2013, at 7:05 PM, Cecily Walker cecily.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I'm so happy to hear you got the bike back! On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:52:21 PM UTC-7, Pammie wrote: Thanks to all the emails; mixte recovered (someone bought the bike at the swap meet following fair (it was carnies!). She paid 400.00 (allegedly); we tried to call police for advice. Went against my own counsel met with her (she sounded legit). Once meeting her she definitely saw the bike after buying it on social media. We paid her 500.00 -- she did want the 400.00 back (that was the sketchy part). I really struggled with this. I had a new bike all planned out. But this frame was completely unique. Insurance claim processed 5100.00 but not paid (would have paid out tomorrow night prob.). So, got bike back minus the bags and tools -- and notified insurance company to all stop. I found this to be a real dilemma. But, thanks everyone for the good thoughts. Social media really works out. Not sure I did the right thing - it could have been dangerous to meet - my significant other went with me and thought time was of the essence. Comments very welcome to discuss. On Aug 13, 2013, at 3:13 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: Pammie, I too remember seeing this bike on the blog. I am so sorry you have to go through this. I hope either you recover the bike in good condition or can have another one built. Best, ~Hugh On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:03:58 PM UTC-7, Pammie wrote: Hi all, I love reading this forum and have a similar type of hand built bike - a Royal H Mixte with custom Peter White Son Dynamo wheelset. . . . It was stolen out of the garage this week while I was in DC. My partner thinks it could be that left the garage door open for just a few hours before going to bed one evening but it would not have been long. When I arrived home, I immediately saw it gone. . . If anyone come across it please let me know -- Ventura Police Department has also been notified, and I have notified all the bike shops! It's really one of a kind. . . I'm sick about it. I bought the frame from bike blogger Lovely Bike a year ago and have used it for rides of 30+ miles. We have kept it in the house off and on -- but live in a very safe neighborhood. I've never had a bike stolen as an adult.I also have a new Acorn bag on the front. S The police believe it is carnies -- we have a park and ride about 4 blocks from the house and the fair is in town and we are, apparently, in the middle of a crime spree. I do have insurance but I am still heartbroken. My build (although I have cream delta cruisers on it now): http://www.flickr.com/photos/76332248@N06/9452690851/ Here the frame on the builder site: http://royalhcycles.com/lovelybike-mixte/ Warm regards, Pam (805) 856-8370 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners
Re: [RBW] Stolen Royal H Mixte Ventura
Glad you got the bike back...I guess I could see the person who bought it at the swap wanting to recover her $400...but that is no $400 bike... Myself, I'd suspect it was a hot bike. My advice? Lock up the bikes in the garage and lock the garage..., better yet, keep the Royal in the house. It's probably a good thing you cancelled the claim since claims can ultimately result in increased premiums or , worse, insurer refuses coverage. All in all a happy ending, I think...but too bad about the tools and bags and the $500. On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 10:52:21 PM UTC-5, Pammie wrote: Thanks to all the emails; mixte recovered (someone bought the bike at the swap meet following fair (it was carnies!). She paid 400.00 (allegedly); we tried to call police for advice. Went against my own counsel met with her (she sounded legit). Once meeting her she definitely saw the bike after buying it on social media. We paid her 500.00 -- she did want the 400.00 back (that was the sketchy part). I really struggled with this. I had a new bike all planned out. But this frame was completely unique. Insurance claim processed 5100.00 but not paid (would have paid out tomorrow night prob.). So, got bike back minus the bags and tools -- and notified insurance company to all stop. I found this to be a real dilemma. But, thanks everyone for the good thoughts. Social media really works out. Not sure I did the right thing - it could have been dangerous to meet - my significant other went with me and thought time was of the essence. Comments very welcome to discuss. On Aug 13, 2013, at 3:13 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Pammie, I too remember seeing this bike on the blog. I am so sorry you have to go through this. I hope either you recover the bike in good condition or can have another one built. Best, ~Hugh On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:03:58 PM UTC-7, Pammie wrote: Hi all, I love reading this forum and have a similar type of hand built bike - a Royal H Mixte with custom Peter White Son Dynamo wheelset. . . . It was stolen out of the garage this week while I was in DC. My partner thinks it could be that left the garage door open for just a few hours before going to bed one evening but it would not have been long. When I arrived home, I immediately saw it gone. . . If anyone come across it please let me know -- Ventura Police Department has also been notified, and I have notified all the bike shops! It's really one of a kind. . . I'm sick about it. I bought the frame from bike blogger Lovely Bike a year ago and have used it for rides of 30+ miles. We have kept it in the house off and on -- but live in a very safe neighborhood. I've never had a bike stolen as an adult. I also have a new Acorn bag on the front. S The police believe it is carnies -- we have a park and ride about 4 blocks from the house and the fair is in town and we are, apparently, in the middle of a crime spree. I do have insurance but I am still heartbroken. My build (although I have cream delta cruisers on it now): http://www.flickr.com/photos/76332248@N06/9452690851/ Here the frame on the builder site: http://royalhcycles.com/lovelybike-mixte/ Warm regards, Pam (805) 856-8370 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Stolen Royal H Mixte Ventura
Glad you got your bike back!! You should have worked through the police. As long as you can prove ownership then you owe those people nothing as they bought stolen merchandise. In instances of possession of stolen goods they are out the money they spent. Their recourse would be to go after the person they bought it from. Entirely their problem. Plus with the police involved they could get information about the seller/ likely thief. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Stolen Royal H Mixte Ventura
If at all possible, I'd have police handle it and not paid. Trafficking in stolen goods is trafficking in stolen goods and should not be reimbursed, rewarded, etc. I mean, if I suspend all reasonable sense, I can get big screen tvs for pennies on the dollar, never ask about provenance, and ask for my money back when rightful owner wants them back. But I'm not judging you for your decision. We do what can in an imperfect world. • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Stolen Royal H Mixte Ventura
Perry, Well said and completely the way to handle such things. I wanted to say the same but was hesitant I didn't want to offend. Still I'm glad she got her beauty back though in a less than desirable way. ~Hugh On Friday, August 16, 2013 3:12:04 PM UTC-7, bobish wrote: If at all possible, I'd have police handle it and not paid. Trafficking in stolen goods is trafficking in stolen goods and should not be reimbursed, rewarded, etc. I mean, if I suspend all reasonable sense, I can get big screen tvs for pennies on the dollar, never ask about provenance, and ask for my money back when rightful owner wants them back. But I'm not judging you for your decision. We do what can in an imperfect world. • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Stolen Royal H Mixte Ventura
I agree with people that being forced to take part in the cycle of stolen property makes one feel like you are perpetuating the whole deal. I guess there are some key points that are left unclear or unaddressed before I can pass my own judgment on people, actions, or choices that were directly involved in this scenario. 1-how did the original owner become aware that X bought the bike at a swap meet? 2-How did X come to know that the bike was the owners bike? 3-Why did X bother contacting the owner that they had recovered the bike? 4-Why do we assume that X was in on the whole scheme, or why they are a willing part of the cycle of stolen and fenced goods? 5-Yes, it is too bad that the original owner had to pay out money to get their bike back but, THEY GOT THEIR BIKE BACK. True, it was not a complete recovery, and that can add salt to the wound. Now for my editorial and context: It sounds like the original owner got thier bike back because someone at a swap meet noticed a very nice bike for too little money. They bought it, and then checked the forums etc., to see what was the what. At which point they appear to have contacted the original legal owner of the bike saying they had recovered it. More often than not, when one is forced to recover a bike in this manner, one ends up having to pay out of pocket, and it is a sign of respect and thanks to reimburse the money to the person who again, more often than not, is trying to help. It is far from fair, or perfect, but unless one has the time or privilege/luck to work with the police, then working with a fellow citizen outside of official protocols and reimbursing them for getting your bike out of the hands of a thief or fence is unfortunately what it costs to get reunited with one's beloved bike. Also, don't think that it is easy to physically take possession of a stolen bike either. Unless one is in a position of strength and can safely physically take possession of the bike, then one is back to paying for it. Physical force recovery is exceedingly rare, and quite risky. Imagine doing this in the middle of a swap meet or flea market by yourself or with a partner. From personal experience, unless the police catch someone in the act of stealing or fleeing with stolen property, then you can't really expect too much help from one's local police force. Recovery of stolen property is low on their list of priorities (regardless of whether it is a bike, car, computer, etc). Again, this is not fair nor right, and generally speaks to the overload and shortcomings of our community police forces. That is a completely different topic that is beyond the purview of this forum. All of this doesn't mean that the original owner cannot be angry about the whole situation. Or that we as a community of cyclists cannot be incensed by the lack of support from the law and police agencies, but there is more to all this than fairness or the law, right or wrong. It unfortunately is not a black and white binary currently. There are some cities whose police forces and cycling communities are beginning to be proactive in dealing with bicycle theft, but there are some pretty big structural issues that need to be addressed first before any real change can occur. In the end, the owner got their one-of-a-kind bike back, which I think is great. Best, Gabe On Friday, August 16, 2013 4:08:31 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Perry, Well said and completely the way to handle such things. I wanted to say the same but was hesitant I didn't want to offend. Still I'm glad she got her beauty back though in a less than desirable way. ~Hugh On Friday, August 16, 2013 3:12:04 PM UTC-7, bobish wrote: If at all possible, I'd have police handle it and not paid. Trafficking in stolen goods is trafficking in stolen goods and should not be reimbursed, rewarded, etc. I mean, if I suspend all reasonable sense, I can get big screen tvs for pennies on the dollar, never ask about provenance, and ask for my money back when rightful owner wants them back. But I'm not judging you for your decision. We do what can in an imperfect world. • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Stolen Royal H Mixte Ventura
I'm so happy to hear you got the bike back! On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:52:21 PM UTC-7, Pammie wrote: Thanks to all the emails; mixte recovered (someone bought the bike at the swap meet following fair (it was carnies!). She paid 400.00 (allegedly); we tried to call police for advice. Went against my own counsel met with her (she sounded legit). Once meeting her she definitely saw the bike after buying it on social media. We paid her 500.00 -- she did want the 400.00 back (that was the sketchy part). I really struggled with this. I had a new bike all planned out. But this frame was completely unique. Insurance claim processed 5100.00 but not paid (would have paid out tomorrow night prob.). So, got bike back minus the bags and tools -- and notified insurance company to all stop. I found this to be a real dilemma. But, thanks everyone for the good thoughts. Social media really works out. Not sure I did the right thing - it could have been dangerous to meet - my significant other went with me and thought time was of the essence. Comments very welcome to discuss. On Aug 13, 2013, at 3:13 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Pammie, I too remember seeing this bike on the blog. I am so sorry you have to go through this. I hope either you recover the bike in good condition or can have another one built. Best, ~Hugh On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:03:58 PM UTC-7, Pammie wrote: Hi all, I love reading this forum and have a similar type of hand built bike - a Royal H Mixte with custom Peter White Son Dynamo wheelset. . . . It was stolen out of the garage this week while I was in DC. My partner thinks it could be that left the garage door open for just a few hours before going to bed one evening but it would not have been long. When I arrived home, I immediately saw it gone. . . If anyone come across it please let me know -- Ventura Police Department has also been notified, and I have notified all the bike shops! It's really one of a kind. . . I'm sick about it. I bought the frame from bike blogger Lovely Bike a year ago and have used it for rides of 30+ miles. We have kept it in the house off and on -- but live in a very safe neighborhood. I've never had a bike stolen as an adult. I also have a new Acorn bag on the front. S The police believe it is carnies -- we have a park and ride about 4 blocks from the house and the fair is in town and we are, apparently, in the middle of a crime spree. I do have insurance but I am still heartbroken. My build (although I have cream delta cruisers on it now): http://www.flickr.com/photos/76332248@N06/9452690851/ Here the frame on the builder site: http://royalhcycles.com/lovelybike-mixte/ Warm regards, Pam (805) 856-8370 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Stolen Royal H Mixte Ventura
Wow, I remember reading the blog posts by Lovely Bicycle about her first custom frame project. In fact, before knowing this fact, I took a look at the photo that you posted and thought to myself,* my that looks a lot like the Royal H mixte that Lovely Bike has*! Small world, indeed. Anyway, you have a famous frame, and I hope that it turns up soon. On Monday, August 12, 2013 9:38:14 PM UTC+2, Pammie wrote: Thanks All! Well, the good news is USAA (my insurance) will pay for replacement cost - I've never made a claim before -- so I'm thrilled about that. . . It does make the pain a bit less. I still think it's so unique (like many of the Rivs) that it seems impossible it won't turn up! On Aug 11, 2013, at 9:12 PM, DianeB chapst...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Pammie, I'm so sorry to read that that beautiful mixte has been stolen from you. I hope it's found soon. On Friday, August 9, 2013 9:20:38 AM UTC-6, Pammie wrote: And, I believe this was bike was talked about before on the blog -- if you know anyone in Socal -- please forward. . . . I am heartbroken -- I bought the frame from Lovely Bicycle (a popular blog) -- and Bryan Hollingsworth (the framebuilder) at Royal H says he had another bike stolen last week -- so careful with your babies!! On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:03:58 PM UTC-7, Pammie wrote: Hi all, I love reading this forum and have a similar type of hand built bike - a Royal H Mixte with custom Peter White Son Dynamo wheelset. . . . It was stolen out of the garage this week while I was in DC. My partner thinks it could be that left the garage door open for just a few hours before going to bed one evening but it would not have been long. When I arrived home, I immediately saw it gone. . . If anyone come across it please let me know -- Ventura Police Department has also been notified, and I have notified all the bike shops! It's really one of a kind. . . I'm sick about it. I bought the frame from bike blogger Lovely Bike a year ago and have used it for rides of 30+ miles. We have kept it in the house off and on -- but live in a very safe neighborhood. I've never had a bike stolen as an adult.I also have a new Acorn bag on the front. S The police believe it is carnies -- we have a park and ride about 4 blocks from the house and the fair is in town and we are, apparently, in the middle of a crime spree. I do have insurance but I am still heartbroken. My build (although I have cream delta cruisers on it now): http://www.flickr.com/photos/76332248@N06/9452690851/ Here the frame on the builder site: http://royalhcycles.com/lovelybike-mixte/ Warm regards, Pam (805) 856-8370 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Stolen Royal H Mixte Ventura
Thanks All! Well, the good news is USAA (my insurance) will pay for replacement cost - I've never made a claim before -- so I'm thrilled about that. . . It does make the pain a bit less. I still think it's so unique (like many of the Rivs) that it seems impossible it won't turn up! On Aug 11, 2013, at 9:12 PM, DianeB chapstick2...@gmail.com wrote: Pammie, I'm so sorry to read that that beautiful mixte has been stolen from you. I hope it's found soon. On Friday, August 9, 2013 9:20:38 AM UTC-6, Pammie wrote: And, I believe this was bike was talked about before on the blog -- if you know anyone in Socal -- please forward. . . . I am heartbroken -- I bought the frame from Lovely Bicycle (a popular blog) -- and Bryan Hollingsworth (the framebuilder) at Royal H says he had another bike stolen last week -- so careful with your babies!! On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:03:58 PM UTC-7, Pammie wrote: Hi all, I love reading this forum and have a similar type of hand built bike - a Royal H Mixte with custom Peter White Son Dynamo wheelset. . . . It was stolen out of the garage this week while I was in DC. My partner thinks it could be that left the garage door open for just a few hours before going to bed one evening but it would not have been long. When I arrived home, I immediately saw it gone. . . If anyone come across it please let me know -- Ventura Police Department has also been notified, and I have notified all the bike shops! It's really one of a kind. . . I'm sick about it. I bought the frame from bike blogger Lovely Bike a year ago and have used it for rides of 30+ miles. We have kept it in the house off and on -- but live in a very safe neighborhood. I've never had a bike stolen as an adult.I also have a new Acorn bag on the front. S The police believe it is carnies -- we have a park and ride about 4 blocks from the house and the fair is in town and we are, apparently, in the middle of a crime spree. I do have insurance but I am still heartbroken. My build (although I have cream delta cruisers on it now): http://www.flickr.com/photos/76332248@N06/9452690851/ Here the frame on the builder site: http://royalhcycles.com/lovelybike-mixte/ Warm regards, Pam (805) 856-8370 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Stolen Royal H Mixte Ventura
Hi all, I love reading this forum and have a similar type of hand built bike - a Royal H Mixte with custom Peter White Son Dynamo wheelset. . . . It was stolen out of the garage this week while I was in DC. My partner thinks it could be that left the garage door open for just a few hours before going to bed one evening but it would not have been long. When I arrived home, I immediately saw it gone. . . If anyone come across it please let me know -- Ventura Police Department has also been notified, and I have notified all the bike shops! It's really one of a kind. . . I'm sick about it. I bought the frame from bike blogger Lovely Bike a year ago and have used it for rides of 30+ miles. We have kept it in the house off and on -- but live in a very safe neighborhood. I've never had a bike stolen as an adult. I also have a new Acorn bag on the front. S The police believe it is carnies -- we have a park and ride about 4 blocks from the house and the fair is in town and we are, apparently, in the middle of a crime spree. I do have insurance but I am still heartbroken. My build (although I have cream delta cruisers on it now): http://www.flickr.com/photos/76332248@N06/9452690851/ Here the frame on the builder site: http://royalhcycles.com/lovelybike-mixte/ Warm regards, Pam (805) 856-8370 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
