[RBW] Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

2020-05-22 Thread Vincent Tamer
REI makes some great UV resist clothing. I gave up wearing shorts for the most 
part, because they just aren’t that fashionable. Now on hot days I wear some 
very thin hiking pants from REI. They work fine. I wore them in the Philippines 
in 90 F weather with 85 percent humidity and they were good in the weather, esp 
for keeping the ants away, not that you have that problem. 

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Re: [RBW] Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

2020-05-20 Thread masmojo
Mixed use trail in uptown Dallas 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katy_Trail_(Dallas)

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Re: [RBW] Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

2020-05-20 Thread George Schick
Mas - I'm a bit confusticated about your riding along the "katy trail" with 
"bamboo shading" when it seems like your regular posts indicate that you 
live in Texas.  As far as I know, the Katy Trail runs E-to-W through 
central Missouri.  Please explain.


On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 7:21:18 AM UTC-5, masmojo wrote:
>
> True, we can't control every harmful factor, but I figure it would be 
> silly not to avoid those that I can easily avoid.
> I can avoid absorbing chemicals into my body by simply not buying or 
> wearing sunscreen. I'll probably still use it in certain situations were I 
> know I'm just going to be more or less stationary in the sun in the middle 
> of the day with no shade (outdoor concert for example), but as I've gotten 
> older (even before Covid) I prefer to avoid these types of venues anyway. 
> If I avoid riding middle of the day, or organize my ride in such a way as 
> to maximize the natural  elements along the way that will shade me; trees, 
> buildings, etc. I find I very rarely need sunscreen. Especially since 
> moderate exposure is a healthy source of vitamin D. 
> Humans have been living in the sun for thousands of years (and probably 
> been putting sunscreens on for almost as long) but there are those things 
> that we don't find out were bad for us for years and years until people 
> start dying of cancer or whatever. So I'll continue to use sunscreen 
> sparingly if at all. 
> I know Leah prefers to ride at night anyway; probably partly because of 
> the sun element. I am guessing that maybe she's looking to expand her 11 
> mile loop. Which might entail leaving earlier and therefore being exposed 
> to increased sunlight. 
> When I was riding to work last year, in July thru early September I would 
> stay late at work, another hour or so. At that point I knew that the angle 
> of the sun would start getting low enough in the sky that the bamboo along 
> the West side of the Katy trail or the trees would keep me out of the 
> direct sun and when I was in the sun it would be at my back.
> Basically, a little forethought can be your most effective tool. 

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Re: [RBW] Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

2020-05-20 Thread masmojo
True, we can't control every harmful factor, but I figure it would be silly not 
to avoid those that I can easily avoid.
I can avoid absorbing chemicals into my body by simply not buying or wearing 
sunscreen. I'll probably still use it in certain situations were I know I'm 
just going to be more or less stationary in the sun in the middle of the day 
with no shade (outdoor concert for example), but as I've gotten older (even 
before Covid) I prefer to avoid these types of venues anyway. 
If I avoid riding middle of the day, or organize my ride in such a way as to 
maximize the natural  elements along the way that will shade me; trees, 
buildings, etc. I find I very rarely need sunscreen. Especially since moderate 
exposure is a healthy source of vitamin D. 
Humans have been living in the sun for thousands of years (and probably been 
putting sunscreens on for almost as long) but there are those things that we 
don't find out were bad for us for years and years until people start dying of 
cancer or whatever. So I'll continue to use sunscreen sparingly if at all. 
I know Leah prefers to ride at night anyway; probably partly because of the sun 
element. I am guessing that maybe she's looking to expand her 11 mile loop. 
Which might entail leaving earlier and therefore being exposed to increased 
sunlight. 
When I was riding to work last year, in July thru early September I would stay 
late at work, another hour or so. At that point I knew that the angle of the 
sun would start getting low enough in the sky that the bamboo along the West 
side of the Katy trail or the trees would keep me out of the direct sun and 
when I was in the sun it would be at my back.
Basically, a little forethought can be your most effective tool. 

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Re: [RBW] Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

2020-05-19 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Just when I thought I was remote enough there were no cameras! Caught in 
the act, and yes, that is my better side. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 4:01:37 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> You’re an elephant, Deacon!
>
> [image: Elephant gives himself a dust bath in amazing set of photographs 
> ...]
>
> article-0-0D901C140578-362_634x425.jpg 
> 
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.campyonly.com
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>
> On May 19, 2020, at 2:59 PM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
> Aye. Life is fatal. Grin.
>
> One alternative skin protectant on a hot day is to ride dirt roads and 
> trails. Tires kick up dust. Dust sticks to sweaty skin. Pass it off as a 
> tan. Blocks sun too. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick, who tanned a lot on todays dusty ride.
>
> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote:
>>
>> Eric - you make some good points.  As a culture we seem to be slowly 
>> entranced into the concept of being "safe" everywhere and for everything. 
>>  There is no such thing as being absolutely safe.  One can get seriously 
>> injured or even killed in any number of ways every day.  It's more about 
>> weighing the risks of one thing against another.  As someone well known to 
>> all of us once said, "just ride."
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 3:55:06 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>>>
>>> The FDA still advises using sunscreen; basically, the risk and 
>>> consequences of skin cancer outweigh the risks of wearing sunscreen. They 
>>> also did not conclude that any of the chemicals absorbed are unsafe 
>>> (although they would like to do additional research).
>>>
>>> Read more here: 
>>> https://www.fda.gov/news-events/fda-voices/shedding-more-light-sunscreen-absorption
>>>  
>>>
>>> It’s about balancing risks.
>>>
>>> We all make these decisions every day. We go out to ride our bikes, 
>>> despite the risk that we might get hit by a car. The benefits of the ride 
>>> outweigh the risk. People who don’t ride their bikes for fear of being hit 
>>> by a car look at the same situation and make a different decision.
>>>
>>> --Eric Norris
>>> campyo...@me.com
>>> www.campyonly.com
>>> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>>>
>>> On May 19, 2020, at 1:48 PM, masmojo  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, Leah I never have been a fan of slathering chemicals on my skin 
>>> either; then I heard last year that the typical sunscreen was getting 
>>> absorbed into the bloodstream! That seemed like it was probably not a good 
>>> thing and just reinforced my resolve not to use it. 
>>> Between the fact that I've been riding in sunny Texas for 52 years and 
>>> with the Global Warming it just seems to get hotter and more sunny every 
>>> year.  I had to start covering my skin; arms, nose & neck especially. 
>>> Problem for me is finding something that does the job, isn't too hot and 
>>> fits my idea of what appropriate cycling gear should look like.
>>> Unfortunately most sun specific bike gear errs towards a super technical 
>>> look that's kind of overkill OR more genteel, stuff that looks like it's 
>>> perfect for sitting around in & drinking iced tea on the veranda.
>>> I may be old enough to be a grandpa, but I'm not one and I do make an 
>>> effort to not reinforce the geriatric stereotype. 
>>> Maybe one day I'll stop dressing like a teenager, but I doubt it.
>>> Yesterday, I was riding with a light weight, white, cotton T-shirt & 
>>> while it didn't cover my arms I never felt uncomfortable.
>>> I sometimes ride with rayon Hawaiian shirts that I've gotten at the 
>>> thrift store, but again they don't cover my arms.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

2020-05-19 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch
You’re an elephant, Deacon!



article-0-0D901C140578-362_634x425.jpg 


--Eric Norris
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> On May 19, 2020, at 2:59 PM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> Aye. Life is fatal. Grin.
> 
> One alternative skin protectant on a hot day is to ride dirt roads and 
> trails. Tires kick up dust. Dust sticks to sweaty skin. Pass it off as a tan. 
> Blocks sun too. Grin.
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick, who tanned a lot on todays dusty ride.
> 
> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote:
> Eric - you make some good points.  As a culture we seem to be slowly 
> entranced into the concept of being "safe" everywhere and for everything.  
> There is no such thing as being absolutely safe.  One can get seriously 
> injured or even killed in any number of ways every day.  It's more about 
> weighing the risks of one thing against another.  As someone well known to 
> all of us once said, "just ride."
> 
> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 3:55:06 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
> The FDA still advises using sunscreen; basically, the risk and consequences 
> of skin cancer outweigh the risks of wearing sunscreen. They also did not 
> conclude that any of the chemicals absorbed are unsafe (although they would 
> like to do additional research).
> 
> Read more here: 
> https://www.fda.gov/news-events/fda-voices/shedding-more-light-sunscreen-absorption
>  
> 
>  
> 
> It’s about balancing risks.
> 
> We all make these decisions every day. We go out to ride our bikes, despite 
> the risk that we might get hit by a car. The benefits of the ride outweigh 
> the risk. People who don’t ride their bikes for fear of being hit by a car 
> look at the same situation and make a different decision.
> 
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com <>
> www.campyonly.com 
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
> 
>> On May 19, 2020, at 1:48 PM, masmojo > wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, Leah I never have been a fan of slathering chemicals on my skin either; 
>> then I heard last year that the typical sunscreen was getting absorbed into 
>> the bloodstream! That seemed like it was probably not a good thing and just 
>> reinforced my resolve not to use it. 
>> Between the fact that I've been riding in sunny Texas for 52 years and with 
>> the Global Warming it just seems to get hotter and more sunny every year.  I 
>> had to start covering my skin; arms, nose & neck especially. 
>> Problem for me is finding something that does the job, isn't too hot and 
>> fits my idea of what appropriate cycling gear should look like.
>> Unfortunately most sun specific bike gear errs towards a super technical 
>> look that's kind of overkill OR more genteel, stuff that looks like it's 
>> perfect for sitting around in & drinking iced tea on the veranda.
>> I may be old enough to be a grandpa, but I'm not one and I do make an effort 
>> to not reinforce the geriatric stereotype. 
>> Maybe one day I'll stop dressing like a teenager, but I doubt it.
>> Yesterday, I was riding with a light weight, white, cotton T-shirt & while 
>> it didn't cover my arms I never felt uncomfortable.
>> I sometimes ride with rayon Hawaiian shirts that I've gotten at the thrift 
>> store, but again they don't cover my arms.
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

2020-05-19 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Aye. Life is fatal. Grin.

One alternative skin protectant on a hot day is to ride dirt roads and 
trails. Tires kick up dust. Dust sticks to sweaty skin. Pass it off as a 
tan. Blocks sun too. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick, who tanned a lot on todays dusty ride.

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote:
>
> Eric - you make some good points.  As a culture we seem to be slowly 
> entranced into the concept of being "safe" everywhere and for everything. 
>  There is no such thing as being absolutely safe.  One can get seriously 
> injured or even killed in any number of ways every day.  It's more about 
> weighing the risks of one thing against another.  As someone well known to 
> all of us once said, "just ride."
>
> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 3:55:06 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> The FDA still advises using sunscreen; basically, the risk and 
>> consequences of skin cancer outweigh the risks of wearing sunscreen. They 
>> also did not conclude that any of the chemicals absorbed are unsafe 
>> (although they would like to do additional research).
>>
>> Read more here: 
>> https://www.fda.gov/news-events/fda-voices/shedding-more-light-sunscreen-absorption
>>  
>>
>> It’s about balancing risks.
>>
>> We all make these decisions every day. We go out to ride our bikes, 
>> despite the risk that we might get hit by a car. The benefits of the ride 
>> outweigh the risk. People who don’t ride their bikes for fear of being hit 
>> by a car look at the same situation and make a different decision.
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> www.campyonly.com
>> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>>
>> On May 19, 2020, at 1:48 PM, masmojo  wrote:
>>
>> Yes, Leah I never have been a fan of slathering chemicals on my skin 
>> either; then I heard last year that the typical sunscreen was getting 
>> absorbed into the bloodstream! That seemed like it was probably not a good 
>> thing and just reinforced my resolve not to use it. 
>> Between the fact that I've been riding in sunny Texas for 52 years and 
>> with the Global Warming it just seems to get hotter and more sunny every 
>> year.  I had to start covering my skin; arms, nose & neck especially. 
>> Problem for me is finding something that does the job, isn't too hot and 
>> fits my idea of what appropriate cycling gear should look like.
>> Unfortunately most sun specific bike gear errs towards a super technical 
>> look that's kind of overkill OR more genteel, stuff that looks like it's 
>> perfect for sitting around in & drinking iced tea on the veranda.
>> I may be old enough to be a grandpa, but I'm not one and I do make an 
>> effort to not reinforce the geriatric stereotype. 
>> Maybe one day I'll stop dressing like a teenager, but I doubt it.
>> Yesterday, I was riding with a light weight, white, cotton T-shirt & 
>> while it didn't cover my arms I never felt uncomfortable.
>> I sometimes ride with rayon Hawaiian shirts that I've gotten at the 
>> thrift store, but again they don't cover my arms.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

2020-05-19 Thread George Schick
Eric - you make some good points.  As a culture we seem to be slowly 
entranced into the concept of being "safe" everywhere and for everything. 
 There is no such thing as being absolutely safe.  One can get seriously 
injured or even killed in any number of ways every day.  It's more about 
weighing the risks of one thing against another.  As someone well known to 
all of us once said, "just ride."

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 3:55:06 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> The FDA still advises using sunscreen; basically, the risk and 
> consequences of skin cancer outweigh the risks of wearing sunscreen. They 
> also did not conclude that any of the chemicals absorbed are unsafe 
> (although they would like to do additional research).
>
> Read more here: 
> https://www.fda.gov/news-events/fda-voices/shedding-more-light-sunscreen-absorption
>  
>
> It’s about balancing risks.
>
> We all make these decisions every day. We go out to ride our bikes, 
> despite the risk that we might get hit by a car. The benefits of the ride 
> outweigh the risk. People who don’t ride their bikes for fear of being hit 
> by a car look at the same situation and make a different decision.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.campyonly.com
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>
> On May 19, 2020, at 1:48 PM, masmojo > 
> wrote:
>
> Yes, Leah I never have been a fan of slathering chemicals on my skin 
> either; then I heard last year that the typical sunscreen was getting 
> absorbed into the bloodstream! That seemed like it was probably not a good 
> thing and just reinforced my resolve not to use it. 
> Between the fact that I've been riding in sunny Texas for 52 years and 
> with the Global Warming it just seems to get hotter and more sunny every 
> year.  I had to start covering my skin; arms, nose & neck especially. 
> Problem for me is finding something that does the job, isn't too hot and 
> fits my idea of what appropriate cycling gear should look like.
> Unfortunately most sun specific bike gear errs towards a super technical 
> look that's kind of overkill OR more genteel, stuff that looks like it's 
> perfect for sitting around in & drinking iced tea on the veranda.
> I may be old enough to be a grandpa, but I'm not one and I do make an 
> effort to not reinforce the geriatric stereotype. 
> Maybe one day I'll stop dressing like a teenager, but I doubt it.
> Yesterday, I was riding with a light weight, white, cotton T-shirt & while 
> it didn't cover my arms I never felt uncomfortable.
> I sometimes ride with rayon Hawaiian shirts that I've gotten at the thrift 
> store, but again they don't cover my arms.
>
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Re: [RBW] Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

2020-05-19 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch
The FDA still advises using sunscreen; basically, the risk and consequences of 
skin cancer outweigh the risks of wearing sunscreen. They also did not conclude 
that any of the chemicals absorbed are unsafe (although they would like to do 
additional research).

Read more here: 
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/fda-voices/shedding-more-light-sunscreen-absorption
 

 

It’s about balancing risks.

We all make these decisions every day. We go out to ride our bikes, despite the 
risk that we might get hit by a car. The benefits of the ride outweigh the 
risk. People who don’t ride their bikes for fear of being hit by a car look at 
the same situation and make a different decision.

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
www.campyonly.com
campyonlyguy.blogspot.com

> On May 19, 2020, at 1:48 PM, masmojo  wrote:
> 
> Yes, Leah I never have been a fan of slathering chemicals on my skin either; 
> then I heard last year that the typical sunscreen was getting absorbed into 
> the bloodstream! That seemed like it was probably not a good thing and just 
> reinforced my resolve not to use it. 
> Between the fact that I've been riding in sunny Texas for 52 years and with 
> the Global Warming it just seems to get hotter and more sunny every year.  I 
> had to start covering my skin; arms, nose & neck especially. 
> Problem for me is finding something that does the job, isn't too hot and fits 
> my idea of what appropriate cycling gear should look like.
> Unfortunately most sun specific bike gear errs towards a super technical look 
> that's kind of overkill OR more genteel, stuff that looks like it's perfect 
> for sitting around in & drinking iced tea on the veranda.
> I may be old enough to be a grandpa, but I'm not one and I do make an effort 
> to not reinforce the geriatric stereotype. 
> Maybe one day I'll stop dressing like a teenager, but I doubt it.
> Yesterday, I was riding with a light weight, white, cotton T-shirt & while it 
> didn't cover my arms I never felt uncomfortable.
> I sometimes ride with rayon Hawaiian shirts that I've gotten at the thrift 
> store, but again they don't cover my arms.
> 
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Re: [RBW] Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

2020-05-18 Thread George Schick
Deacon's remark about better tolerance for the sun's UV radiation after 
having eliminated various non-beneficial oils from his diet makes me wonder 
if our diets are interfering with out body's vitamin D uptake.  A certain 
amount of sun for the benefit of its ability to induce our vitamin D 
production is not a bad thing.  Blood tests in recent years revealed that I 
was way low on several vitamins and minerals, D among them, and I've been 
taking supplements ever since.  As far as that goes, some in the medical 
field have been saying recently that the many herbicides, pesticides, etc. 
used in the growth of various cereals, not to mention the antibiotics 
stuffed into animals, have negatively impacted our immune systems and 
therefore our ability to fight off viruses.  Food for thought and 
consideration.

On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 7:50:43 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> A number of thoughts from cooler but higher altitude Colorado where all 
> day bikepacking trips are a sun challenge:
>
> - I sunburn far less since eliminating industrial oils from my diet (soy, 
> canola, etc).
> - Calendula oil does wonders for healing burns rapidly. Also brilliant as 
> a disinfectent and for rapid healing of scrapes.
> - Loose, long sleeve, lightweight chambray or similar all cotton shirt. 
> Similarly for pants. Gramicci is worth looking into there.
> - I wear either cotton shorts, and sunscreen as needed, or wool breeks.
> - For heat, a bandana rolled up and soaked works great and refresh as 
> needed. Cools the blood going up and down the neck and via evaporation.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 6:27:40 PM UTC-6, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>>
>> Andy, did you attach a link somewhere and I’m not seeing it?
>>
>> I’m so sorry about your skin cancers. Ugh, really scary. I had an end 
>> stage melanoma patient once, and it really left an impression on me. I’m 
>> going for my annual dermatology visit when this crisis is over. 
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On May 17, 2020, at 5:08 PM, Andrew Erman  wrote:
>>
>> Leah, you may already be aware of these products but there are some 
>> clothing that are designed to protect the active person form UV.  I have 
>> never tried this type of clothing in weather such as you get in Vegas. 
>>  Good luck!  As a recipient of 3 skin cancer surgeries, I can understand 
>> your desire for protection.  Best, Andy
>>
>> On May 17, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have been riding my big blue Clementine like it’s my JOB this year. 
>> I’ve got 960 miles on that Blue Beauty and it’s only May, which is really 
>> good for living in a car-centric suburb like mine. I wanted to do 2020 
>> miles in 2020, and the COVID crisis has put me ahead of schedule. With my 
>> husband commandeering our bedroom as his office, one son Zooming his middle 
>> school classes in the downstairs office, and my 2nd son Zooming 5th grade 
>> at my kitchen table, there hasn’t been any places left for me in my house. 
>> It seems I have no choice but to hit the road. Oh, twist my arm, why don’t 
>> you. “Are you going out on your two-wheeler? Gonna hit the old dusty 
>> trail?” my husband will ask. “Yes, I am doing this for YOU,” I say. 
>>
>> Compounding the issue is that I never leave before one mug of coffee, and 
>> that mug cannot be rushed. So, I rarely get out there before 7:30 when the 
>> sun is high in the sky. This is Vegas, and it’s hot here - we are in the 
>> 90s and not a cloud in the sky most recently. Enclosed is a photo of my tan 
>> line, and I haven’t even spent much time in the pool yet. Yikes. I’ve been 
>> wearing some non-toxic sunscreen but honestly, it’s just better to cover 
>> up. But how do you cover up when it’s so hot outside? I can’t imagine 
>> wearing pants and long sleeves, but I also don’t want sun damage and skin 
>> cancer, so I figured I’d come here and see what you folks do. 
>>
>> What clothing could I wear that would protect my skin without making me 
>> sweat to death? Linen would be a good option, right? But where do you get 
>> linen riding clothing? 
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Leah
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[RBW] Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

2020-05-18 Thread Roberta
I use these UV sunblock arm sleeves: 
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bike-clothing/cycling-arm-leg-warmers/bontrager-uv-sunstop-cycling-arm-cover/p/22817/
  Surprisingly , they don't add much warmth. I'll try Deacon Patricks wetting 
bandana sugestion for these once it gets hot here. 

Glacier Glove UV gloves that someone here recommended to me last year: 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001OPK2W6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Sunscreen on my knees, although I'm thinking about getting these Aero Tech 
Pedal pushers for summer riding (they also make men's clothing): 
https://www.aerotechdesigns.com/womens-urban-pedal-pusher-capri.html .  I also 
have yoga bottoms of a similar length, but they are warm.  A friend of mine 
walks a lot and gets sunburned on the back of her calves, so if I walk I'm 
going to start using sunscreen there.

Two bandanas - one tied in the front with the flap protecting back of my neck, 
one tied in back with flap protecting décolletage.  I have bandanas from Riv 
and from Target.  The Target ones are more loosely woven, so they are not quite 
as hot, but both sets still warm me.  I'm going to try Deacon Patrick's wetting 
suggestion.

Alba Botanica mineral sunscreen on my face and/or Bare Minerals foundation (for 
non exercise outdoors). Sunscreen on shoulders if they are exposed.  Other 
sunscreen on body if I forgo physical coverup.  Big floppy hat when I remember. 
  I also bought a stick hat pin last year to help the hat from flying off my 
head with wind.

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Re: [RBW] Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

2020-05-17 Thread masmojo
Leah, This may sound odd, but I have several Motorcross shirts. (I think 
they make ladies as well) or you could look at mountain biking jerseys I 
have one by Kona
The things I like about these:
- Long Sleeve
- Variety of designs from Subdued to High Vis
- light weight mesh material that is not tight or form fitting, but not too 
baggy either, breaths pretty well and I am not terrible uncomfortable until 
it gets to the high 80's and even then it's OK as log as the sun isn't 
beating down your neck or there's a decent breeze. Above 88 or so & I am 
gonna go short sleeve and likely a cycling jersey of some sort.
 I saw some branded Santa Cruz on Epay for pretty cheap and ladies MTB 
jerseys can be cheap on there too.

As soon as it gets hot i start riding on the shady side of the street!!!

https://troyleedesigns.com/collections/new-arrival-jerseys   (check out the 
Sale section as well)

Fox, Has stuff like this; Maybe not ideal, but might give you some 
idea's??: 
https://www.foxracing.com/womens-ranger-drirelease%C2%AE-3%2F4-jersey/23239.html?dwvar_23239_color=001&dwvar_23239_size=XS&cgid=sale-mtb#prefn1=gender&prefv1=female&start=13

Might be some women's oriented stuff? Terry maybe?

Oh Yeah! 
http://www.terrybicycles.com/Apparel/Cycling-Tops?gclid=CjwKCAjwwYP2BRBGEiwAkoBpAgtdXnDwyndkH7BK8xfc4tceM5_IkN1pWa2GN5x4PKxuSXR8XpqcsRoCa1YQAvD_BwE&matchtype=e&keyword=terry+bikes&clicktype=sitelink&device=c&creative=100489492038

I feel like I should apologize; it certainly seems like the lions share of 
this type thing is Male oriented! 


Mas

On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 7:27:40 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
> Andy, did you attach a link somewhere and I’m not seeing it?
>
> I’m so sorry about your skin cancers. Ugh, really scary. I had an end 
> stage melanoma patient once, and it really left an impression on me. I’m 
> going for my annual dermatology visit when this crisis is over. 
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 17, 2020, at 5:08 PM, Andrew Erman > 
> wrote:
>
> Leah, you may already be aware of these products but there are some 
> clothing that are designed to protect the active person form UV.  I have 
> never tried this type of clothing in weather such as you get in Vegas. 
>  Good luck!  As a recipient of 3 skin cancer surgeries, I can understand 
> your desire for protection.  Best, Andy
>
> On May 17, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  > wrote:
>
> I have been riding my big blue Clementine like it’s my JOB this year. I’ve 
> got 960 miles on that Blue Beauty and it’s only May, which is really good 
> for living in a car-centric suburb like mine. I wanted to do 2020 miles in 
> 2020, and the COVID crisis has put me ahead of schedule. With my husband 
> commandeering our bedroom as his office, one son Zooming his middle school 
> classes in the downstairs office, and my 2nd son Zooming 5th grade at my 
> kitchen table, there hasn’t been any places left for me in my house. It 
> seems I have no choice but to hit the road. Oh, twist my arm, why don’t 
> you. “Are you going out on your two-wheeler? Gonna hit the old dusty 
> trail?” my husband will ask. “Yes, I am doing this for YOU,” I say. 
>
> Compounding the issue is that I never leave before one mug of coffee, and 
> that mug cannot be rushed. So, I rarely get out there before 7:30 when the 
> sun is high in the sky. This is Vegas, and it’s hot here - we are in the 
> 90s and not a cloud in the sky most recently. Enclosed is a photo of my tan 
> line, and I haven’t even spent much time in the pool yet. Yikes. I’ve been 
> wearing some non-toxic sunscreen but honestly, it’s just better to cover 
> up. But how do you cover up when it’s so hot outside? I can’t imagine 
> wearing pants and long sleeves, but I also don’t want sun damage and skin 
> cancer, so I figured I’d come here and see what you folks do. 
>
> What clothing could I wear that would protect my skin without making me 
> sweat to death? Linen would be a good option, right? But where do you get 
> linen riding clothing? 
>
> Thanks!
> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

2020-05-17 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
A number of thoughts from cooler but higher altitude Colorado where all day 
bikepacking trips are a sun challenge:

- I sunburn far less since eliminating industrial oils from my diet (soy, 
canola, etc).
- Calendula oil does wonders for healing burns rapidly. Also brilliant as a 
disinfectent and for rapid healing of scrapes.
- Loose, long sleeve, lightweight chambray or similar all cotton shirt. 
Similarly for pants. Gramicci is worth looking into there.
- I wear either cotton shorts, and sunscreen as needed, or wool breeks.
- For heat, a bandana rolled up and soaked works great and refresh as 
needed. Cools the blood going up and down the neck and via evaporation.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 6:27:40 PM UTC-6, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
> Andy, did you attach a link somewhere and I’m not seeing it?
>
> I’m so sorry about your skin cancers. Ugh, really scary. I had an end 
> stage melanoma patient once, and it really left an impression on me. I’m 
> going for my annual dermatology visit when this crisis is over. 
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 17, 2020, at 5:08 PM, Andrew Erman > 
> wrote:
>
> Leah, you may already be aware of these products but there are some 
> clothing that are designed to protect the active person form UV.  I have 
> never tried this type of clothing in weather such as you get in Vegas. 
>  Good luck!  As a recipient of 3 skin cancer surgeries, I can understand 
> your desire for protection.  Best, Andy
>
> On May 17, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  > wrote:
>
> I have been riding my big blue Clementine like it’s my JOB this year. I’ve 
> got 960 miles on that Blue Beauty and it’s only May, which is really good 
> for living in a car-centric suburb like mine. I wanted to do 2020 miles in 
> 2020, and the COVID crisis has put me ahead of schedule. With my husband 
> commandeering our bedroom as his office, one son Zooming his middle school 
> classes in the downstairs office, and my 2nd son Zooming 5th grade at my 
> kitchen table, there hasn’t been any places left for me in my house. It 
> seems I have no choice but to hit the road. Oh, twist my arm, why don’t 
> you. “Are you going out on your two-wheeler? Gonna hit the old dusty 
> trail?” my husband will ask. “Yes, I am doing this for YOU,” I say. 
>
> Compounding the issue is that I never leave before one mug of coffee, and 
> that mug cannot be rushed. So, I rarely get out there before 7:30 when the 
> sun is high in the sky. This is Vegas, and it’s hot here - we are in the 
> 90s and not a cloud in the sky most recently. Enclosed is a photo of my tan 
> line, and I haven’t even spent much time in the pool yet. Yikes. I’ve been 
> wearing some non-toxic sunscreen but honestly, it’s just better to cover 
> up. But how do you cover up when it’s so hot outside? I can’t imagine 
> wearing pants and long sleeves, but I also don’t want sun damage and skin 
> cancer, so I figured I’d come here and see what you folks do. 
>
> What clothing could I wear that would protect my skin without making me 
> sweat to death? Linen would be a good option, right? But where do you get 
> linen riding clothing? 
>
> Thanks!
> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

2020-05-17 Thread Andrew Erman
Leah,

Here are some links.  My dermatologist said that people often don’t have sun 
related skin cancers after the 3rd one because they become more careful.  So 
far so good for me.  And I hope he is right!

Best,

Andy

https://www.roadbikerider.com/top-cycling-apparel-uv-protection/ 


https://www.rei.com/c/cycling-clothing/f/f-sun-protective-fabric 



> On May 17, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
> 
> Andy, did you attach a link somewhere and I’m not seeing it?
> 
> I’m so sorry about your skin cancers. Ugh, really scary. I had an end stage 
> melanoma patient once, and it really left an impression on me. I’m going for 
> my annual dermatology visit when this crisis is over. 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 17, 2020, at 5:08 PM, Andrew Erman > > wrote:
>> 
>> Leah, you may already be aware of these products but there are some 
>> clothing that are designed to protect the active person form UV.  I have 
>> never tried this type of clothing in weather such as you get in Vegas.  Good 
>> luck!  As a recipient of 3 skin cancer surgeries, I can understand your 
>> desire for protection.  Best, Andy
>> 
>>> On May 17, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> mailto:jonasandle...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have been riding my big blue Clementine like it’s my JOB this year. I’ve 
>>> got 960 miles on that Blue Beauty and it’s only May, which is really good 
>>> for living in a car-centric suburb like mine. I wanted to do 2020 miles in 
>>> 2020, and the COVID crisis has put me ahead of schedule. With my husband 
>>> commandeering our bedroom as his office, one son Zooming his middle school 
>>> classes in the downstairs office, and my 2nd son Zooming 5th grade at my 
>>> kitchen table, there hasn’t been any places left for me in my house. It 
>>> seems I have no choice but to hit the road. Oh, twist my arm, why don’t 
>>> you. “Are you going out on your two-wheeler? Gonna hit the old dusty 
>>> trail?” my husband will ask. “Yes, I am doing this for YOU,” I say. 
>>> 
>>> Compounding the issue is that I never leave before one mug of coffee, and 
>>> that mug cannot be rushed. So, I rarely get out there before 7:30 when the 
>>> sun is high in the sky. This is Vegas, and it’s hot here - we are in the 
>>> 90s and not a cloud in the sky most recently. Enclosed is a photo of my tan 
>>> line, and I haven’t even spent much time in the pool yet. Yikes. I’ve been 
>>> wearing some non-toxic sunscreen but honestly, it’s just better to cover 
>>> up. But how do you cover up when it’s so hot outside? I can’t imagine 
>>> wearing pants and long sleeves, but I also don’t want sun damage and skin 
>>> cancer, so I figured I’d come here and see what you folks do. 
>>> 
>>> What clothing could I wear that would protect my skin without making me 
>>> sweat to death? Linen would be a good option, right? But where do you get 
>>> linen riding clothing? 
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

2020-05-17 Thread Leah Peterson
Andy, did you attach a link somewhere and I’m not seeing it?

I’m so sorry about your skin cancers. Ugh, really scary. I had an end stage 
melanoma patient once, and it really left an impression on me. I’m going for my 
annual dermatology visit when this crisis is over. 

Sent from my iPad

> On May 17, 2020, at 5:08 PM, Andrew Erman  wrote:
> 
> Leah, you may already be aware of these products but there are some clothing 
> that are designed to protect the active person form UV.  I have never tried 
> this type of clothing in weather such as you get in Vegas.  Good luck!  As a 
> recipient of 3 skin cancer surgeries, I can understand your desire for 
> protection.  Best, Andy
> 
>> On May 17, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have been riding my big blue Clementine like it’s my JOB this year. I’ve 
>> got 960 miles on that Blue Beauty and it’s only May, which is really good 
>> for living in a car-centric suburb like mine. I wanted to do 2020 miles in 
>> 2020, and the COVID crisis has put me ahead of schedule. With my husband 
>> commandeering our bedroom as his office, one son Zooming his middle school 
>> classes in the downstairs office, and my 2nd son Zooming 5th grade at my 
>> kitchen table, there hasn’t been any places left for me in my house. It 
>> seems I have no choice but to hit the road. Oh, twist my arm, why don’t you. 
>> “Are you going out on your two-wheeler? Gonna hit the old dusty trail?” my 
>> husband will ask. “Yes, I am doing this for YOU,” I say. 
>> 
>> Compounding the issue is that I never leave before one mug of coffee, and 
>> that mug cannot be rushed. So, I rarely get out there before 7:30 when the 
>> sun is high in the sky. This is Vegas, and it’s hot here - we are in the 90s 
>> and not a cloud in the sky most recently. Enclosed is a photo of my tan 
>> line, and I haven’t even spent much time in the pool yet. Yikes. I’ve been 
>> wearing some non-toxic sunscreen but honestly, it’s just better to cover up. 
>> But how do you cover up when it’s so hot outside? I can’t imagine wearing 
>> pants and long sleeves, but I also don’t want sun damage and skin cancer, so 
>> I figured I’d come here and see what you folks do. 
>> 
>> What clothing could I wear that would protect my skin without making me 
>> sweat to death? Linen would be a good option, right? But where do you get 
>> linen riding clothing? 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

2020-05-17 Thread Andrew Erman
Leah, you may already be aware of these products but there are some clothing 
that are designed to protect the active person form UV.  I have never tried 
this type of clothing in weather such as you get in Vegas.  Good luck!  As a 
recipient of 3 skin cancer surgeries, I can understand your desire for 
protection.  Best, Andy

> On May 17, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have been riding my big blue Clementine like it’s my JOB this year. I’ve 
> got 960 miles on that Blue Beauty and it’s only May, which is really good for 
> living in a car-centric suburb like mine. I wanted to do 2020 miles in 2020, 
> and the COVID crisis has put me ahead of schedule. With my husband 
> commandeering our bedroom as his office, one son Zooming his middle school 
> classes in the downstairs office, and my 2nd son Zooming 5th grade at my 
> kitchen table, there hasn’t been any places left for me in my house. It seems 
> I have no choice but to hit the road. Oh, twist my arm, why don’t you. “Are 
> you going out on your two-wheeler? Gonna hit the old dusty trail?” my husband 
> will ask. “Yes, I am doing this for YOU,” I say. 
> 
> Compounding the issue is that I never leave before one mug of coffee, and 
> that mug cannot be rushed. So, I rarely get out there before 7:30 when the 
> sun is high in the sky. This is Vegas, and it’s hot here - we are in the 90s 
> and not a cloud in the sky most recently. Enclosed is a photo of my tan line, 
> and I haven’t even spent much time in the pool yet. Yikes. I’ve been wearing 
> some non-toxic sunscreen but honestly, it’s just better to cover up. But how 
> do you cover up when it’s so hot outside? I can’t imagine wearing pants and 
> long sleeves, but I also don’t want sun damage and skin cancer, so I figured 
> I’d come here and see what you folks do. 
> 
> What clothing could I wear that would protect my skin without making me sweat 
> to death? Linen would be a good option, right? But where do you get linen 
> riding clothing? 
> 
> Thanks!
> Leah
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