Re: [RBW] Tell me I'm crazy
Surely this is a descent into madness, Patrick, but the descent will be made on a fixed gear trike and THAT's just awesome :) lyle On 29 August 2011 13:12, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat I bought a Workman folding utility trike to use as a grocery runabout; I've always hankered after a British racing trike, and this was a cheap ($200) way to get some of the fun, combine it with outstanding short distance carrying utility (3-paper-sack rear backet) and try out tricycling. I need to raise the gear to 60 or 65 from the current 40 (have a bb converter for the OPC bb from Harris on order), and I figured this was as close as I'd get to a racing trike for a long while. I've been riding it and having great fun. But this morning I talked to Dave Porter about my Herse (generator modifications) and Citroen (restoration) and he told me he could convert a bicycle frame to a right hand drive trike. Now I've got a wonderful, 1999 Joe Starck 650C fixed gofast hanging on the wall not being ridden much (the newer but very similar Riv, now with the Kojaks and with racks and, soon, Civia flat alum fenders gets much more use). I've put not quite 11K miles on the '99 since it was delivered in April, 1999. So: I am seriously thinking of having Dave do a top quality trike conversion job with the '99. It will be a fixed gear or ss for simplicity and because I enjoy that sort of riding, and will have provision for an easy on/off bag platform or basket. I'd use a front fender. I'd also use what I can of the very nice 650c wheels, since I have an extra 571 Sun rim or two. What do y'all think? Eccentricity, or a descent into madness? -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Tell me I'm crazy
For a delta trike a fixed gear is just dangerous. You at least need to be able to coast through the corners because you have to push your weight far to the inside to keep from lifting the wheel and flipping the trike. http://davesbikeblog.blogspot.com/2007/02/bottom-bracket-height.html On Aug 29, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Lyle Bogart wrote: Surely this is a descent into madness, Patrick, but the descent will be made on a fixed gear trike and THAT's just awesome :) lyle On 29 August 2011 13:12, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat I bought a Workman folding utility trike to use as a grocery runabout; I've always hankered after a British racing trike, and this was a cheap ($200) way to get some of the fun, combine it with outstanding short distance carrying utility (3-paper-sack rear backet) and try out tricycling. I need to raise the gear to 60 or 65 from the current 40 (have a bb converter for the OPC bb from Harris on order), and I figured this was as close as I'd get to a racing trike for a long while. I've been riding it and having great fun. But this morning I talked to Dave Porter about my Herse (generator modifications) and Citroen (restoration) and he told me he could convert a bicycle frame to a right hand drive trike. Now I've got a wonderful, 1999 Joe Starck 650C fixed gofast hanging on the wall not being ridden much (the newer but very similar Riv, now with the Kojaks and with racks and, soon, Civia flat alum fenders gets much more use). I've put not quite 11K miles on the '99 since it was delivered in April, 1999. So: I am seriously thinking of having Dave do a top quality trike conversion job with the '99. It will be a fixed gear or ss for simplicity and because I enjoy that sort of riding, and will have provision for an easy on/off bag platform or basket. I'd use a front fender. I'd also use what I can of the very nice 650c wheels, since I have an extra 571 Sun rim or two. What do y'all think? Eccentricity, or a descent into madness? -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Tell me I'm crazy
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: For a delta trike a fixed gear is just dangerous. You at least need to be able to coast through the corners because you have to push your weight far to the inside to keep from lifting the wheel and flipping the trike. http://davesbikeblog.blogspot.com/2007/02/bottom-bracket-height.html Tim, True, but a delta trike with front wheel drive is standard issue to youths world wide. I am sure that patrick was intending on converting to a front wheel drive version to avoid your scenario. Tarik -- Tarik Saleh tas at tariksaleh dot com in los alamos, po box 208, 87544 http://tariksaleh.com all sorts of bikes blog: http://tsaleh.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Tell me I'm crazy
Good call Tim. Patrick, we like you alive and crazy! Rene Sent from my iPhone 4 On Aug 29, 2011, at 5:40 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: For a delta trike a fixed gear is just dangerous. You at least need to be able to coast through the corners because you have to push your weight far to the inside to keep from lifting the wheel and flipping the trike. http://davesbikeblog.blogspot.com/2007/02/bottom-bracket-height.html On Aug 29, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Lyle Bogart wrote: Surely this is a descent into madness, Patrick, but the descent will be made on a fixed gear trike and THAT's just awesome :) lyle On 29 August 2011 13:12, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat I bought a Workman folding utility trike to use as a grocery runabout; I've always hankered after a British racing trike, and this was a cheap ($200) way to get some of the fun, combine it with outstanding short distance carrying utility (3-paper-sack rear backet) and try out tricycling. I need to raise the gear to 60 or 65 from the current 40 (have a bb converter for the OPC bb from Harris on order), and I figured this was as close as I'd get to a racing trike for a long while. I've been riding it and having great fun. But this morning I talked to Dave Porter about my Herse (generator modifications) and Citroen (restoration) and he told me he could convert a bicycle frame to a right hand drive trike. Now I've got a wonderful, 1999 Joe Starck 650C fixed gofast hanging on the wall not being ridden much (the newer but very similar Riv, now with the Kojaks and with racks and, soon, Civia flat alum fenders gets much more use). I've put not quite 11K miles on the '99 since it was delivered in April, 1999. So: I am seriously thinking of having Dave do a top quality trike conversion job with the '99. It will be a fixed gear or ss for simplicity and because I enjoy that sort of riding, and will have provision for an easy on/off bag platform or basket. I'd use a front fender. I'd also use what I can of the very nice 650c wheels, since I have an extra 571 Sun rim or two. What do y'all think? Eccentricity, or a descent into madness? -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Tell me I'm crazy
I won't call you crazy. Anyone willing to take on a wonderful and awful 2CV is eccentric not crazy, and is a Romantic. Part of the Rivendell life. A fine custom bike that isn't ridden is a tragedy, and if the frame works in a trike conversion, I say it should be made ridden. It would be even more unique than a custom, if it works, and that is better than hanging on a wall. But, my impression is that Joe Starck has made some wonderful bikes, and that he has suffered from mental illness, and can't/doesn't want to make frames anymore, which isn't all that lucrative anyway. So, I won't call you crazy. Just unique! On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:12 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat I bought a Workman folding utility trike to use as a grocery runabout; I've always hankered after a British racing trike, and this was a cheap ($200) way to get some of the fun, combine it with outstanding short distance carrying utility (3-paper-sack rear backet) and try out tricycling. I need to raise the gear to 60 or 65 from the current 40 (have a bb converter for the OPC bb from Harris on order), and I figured this was as close as I'd get to a racing trike for a long while. I've been riding it and having great fun. But this morning I talked to Dave Porter about my Herse (generator modifications) and Citroen (restoration) and he told me he could convert a bicycle frame to a right hand drive trike. Now I've got a wonderful, 1999 Joe Starck 650C fixed gofast hanging on the wall not being ridden much (the newer but very similar Riv, now with the Kojaks and with racks and, soon, Civia flat alum fenders gets much more use). I've put not quite 11K miles on the '99 since it was delivered in April, 1999. So: I am seriously thinking of having Dave do a top quality trike conversion job with the '99. It will be a fixed gear or ss for simplicity and because I enjoy that sort of riding, and will have provision for an easy on/off bag platform or basket. I'd use a front fender. I'd also use what I can of the very nice 650c wheels, since I have an extra 571 Sun rim or two. What do y'all think? Eccentricity, or a descent into madness? -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
