[RBW] WTT 64cm Atlantis for 61cm Atlantis

2016-02-09 Thread Michael Williams
hey group,   Just throwing it out there:   I have a 2TT 64cm Atlantis that Id 
like to possibly trade for a 61cm Atlantis,   Just testing the waters.   PM if 
so!  Thanks y'all!!!   -Mike

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Re: [RBW] WTT - 64cm Atlantis

2013-08-07 Thread Deacon Patrick
I've wondered, but not checked with Rivendell, looking at the geometry 
charts if I'd be a 64 Atlantis or 65 AHH as I love the fit of my 62 
Hunqapillar.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 11:32:09 PM UTC-6, James Warren wrote:

 Tony, 
 Careful. If you're worried the 64 cm Atlantis will be too big, the 62 cm 
 Hunq will feel even bigger. This is because the Hunq's top tube slopes up 6 
 degrees, while the Atlantis's slopes up 2.5 degrees. Every degree 
 translates to 1 cm of handlebar height. For me, the 62 Hunq fits like a 
 theoretical 65.5 cm Atlantis, handlebar heightwise. Also, 62 cm Hunq's top 
 tube is quite long, longer than 64 cm Atlantis.
 Simply put, my 62 Hunq is a larger bike than my 64 Atlantis. High bars are 
 unavoidable. But it's cool that on this big Hunq I have a little more stand 
 over clearance, as a result of the big upslope angle and it's shortened 
 seat tube.

 If you're trying to go down 1 size, you want 61 cm Atlantis or 58 cm 
 Hunqapillar.

 -Jim W.


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 On Aug 6, 2013, at 10:14 PM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote:

 I've got a Toyo-built 64cm Atlantis (#168), it's in good shape overall but 
 does show signs of use, chain-suck scars and dark spots mid-fork where 
 p-clamps held a front rack for a long time.  Ultegra headset, unknown 
 bottom bracket included...

 I'm going to go ahead and start building this puppy up, because I think 
 it'll work for me.  But on the off chance someone out there with an 
 Atlantis or possibly a Hunq in the 60-62cm sizes wanted to trade for the 
 next size up I figured I would throw it out there.  I'm located in the 
 Washington DC area, mid-atlantic would be preferrable for an in person 
 exchange but I'd be willing to discuss otherwise.  Shoot me an email at 
 vpik01(at)gmail.com,  THANKS!

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Re: [RBW] WTT - 64cm Atlantis

2013-08-07 Thread James Warren
It's pretty close. If high handlebars are a big concern, you'll lose 1.5 cm of 
handlebar height on the Atlantis and Hunq for a given bar/stem combo. (64 cm 
Atlantis and 65 cm AHH have equal head tube heights, because of a 1 degree 
difference in TT upslope angle. Atlantis slopes up 1 degree more.)

My own experience with Rivendells has been that high bars are so easy to get 
that such a 1.5 cm bar height loss wouldn't register, because when I'm close to 
my size, the stem's limit line is always buried a couple cm. if I went down a 
frame size, I'd be closer to maxed out on stem and it would still work fine.

-Jim W.

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On Aug 7, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 I've wondered, but not checked with Rivendell, looking at the geometry charts 
 if I'd be a 64 Atlantis or 65 AHH as I love the fit of my 62 Hunqapillar.
 
 With abandon,
 Patrick
 
 On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 11:32:09 PM UTC-6, James Warren wrote:
 Tony, 
 Careful. If you're worried the 64 cm Atlantis will be too big, the 62 cm Hunq 
 will feel even bigger. This is because the Hunq's top tube slopes up 6 
 degrees, while the Atlantis's slopes up 2.5 degrees. Every degree translates 
 to 1 cm of handlebar height. For me, the 62 Hunq fits like a theoretical 65.5 
 cm Atlantis, handlebar heightwise. Also, 62 cm Hunq's top tube is quite long, 
 longer than 64 cm Atlantis.
 Simply put, my 62 Hunq is a larger bike than my 64 Atlantis. High bars are 
 unavoidable. But it's cool that on this big Hunq I have a little more stand 
 over clearance, as a result of the big upslope angle and it's shortened seat 
 tube.
 
 If you're trying to go down 1 size, you want 61 cm Atlantis or 58 cm 
 Hunqapillar.
 
 -Jim W.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 6, 2013, at 10:14 PM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I've got a Toyo-built 64cm Atlantis (#168), it's in good shape overall but 
 does show signs of use, chain-suck scars and dark spots mid-fork where 
 p-clamps held a front rack for a long time.  Ultegra headset, unknown bottom 
 bracket included...
 
 I'm going to go ahead and start building this puppy up, because I think 
 it'll work for me.  But on the off chance someone out there with an Atlantis 
 or possibly a Hunq in the 60-62cm sizes wanted to trade for the next size up 
 I figured I would throw it out there.  I'm located in the Washington DC 
 area, mid-atlantic would be preferrable for an in person exchange but I'd be 
 willing to discuss otherwise.  Shoot me an email at vpik01(at)gmail.com,  
 THANKS!
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[RBW] WTT - 64cm Atlantis

2013-08-06 Thread Tony DeFilippo
I've got a Toyo-built 64cm Atlantis (#168), it's in good shape overall but 
does show signs of use, chain-suck scars and dark spots mid-fork where 
p-clamps held a front rack for a long time.  Ultegra headset, unknown 
bottom bracket included...

I'm going to go ahead and start building this puppy up, because I think 
it'll work for me.  But on the off chance someone out there with an 
Atlantis or possibly a Hunq in the 60-62cm sizes wanted to trade for the 
next size up I figured I would throw it out there.  I'm located in the 
Washington DC area, mid-atlantic would be preferrable for an in person 
exchange but I'd be willing to discuss otherwise.  Shoot me an email at 
vpik01(at)gmail.com,  THANKS!

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Re: [RBW] WTT - 64cm Atlantis

2013-08-06 Thread James Warren
Tony, 
Careful. If you're worried the 64 cm Atlantis will be too big, the 62 cm Hunq 
will feel even bigger. This is because the Hunq's top tube slopes up 6 degrees, 
while the Atlantis's slopes up 2.5 degrees. Every degree translates to 1 cm of 
handlebar height. For me, the 62 Hunq fits like a theoretical 65.5 cm Atlantis, 
handlebar heightwise. Also, 62 cm Hunq's top tube is quite long, longer than 64 
cm Atlantis.
Simply put, my 62 Hunq is a larger bike than my 64 Atlantis. High bars are 
unavoidable. But it's cool that on this big Hunq I have a little more stand 
over clearance, as a result of the big upslope angle and it's shortened seat 
tube.

If you're trying to go down 1 size, you want 61 cm Atlantis or 58 cm 
Hunqapillar.

-Jim W.


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 6, 2013, at 10:14 PM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've got a Toyo-built 64cm Atlantis (#168), it's in good shape overall but 
 does show signs of use, chain-suck scars and dark spots mid-fork where 
 p-clamps held a front rack for a long time.  Ultegra headset, unknown bottom 
 bracket included...
 
 I'm going to go ahead and start building this puppy up, because I think it'll 
 work for me.  But on the off chance someone out there with an Atlantis or 
 possibly a Hunq in the 60-62cm sizes wanted to trade for the next size up I 
 figured I would throw it out there.  I'm located in the Washington DC area, 
 mid-atlantic would be preferrable for an in person exchange but I'd be 
 willing to discuss otherwise.  Shoot me an email at vpik01(at)gmail.com,  
 THANKS!
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Re: [RBW] WTT - 64cm Atlantis

2013-08-06 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Jim - Thanks for the info I think you are right.  I threw in the Hunq 
possibility without really understanding the differences that would change 
the fit geometry... definitely looking to reduce the standover height by a 
smidge if possible.  High bars don't bother me to much, in fact on my 64cm 
trek I'm maxing out a Nitto Technomic with some upside down albatross bars.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rSkmaqP1psc/UgHc7rBqBvI/CiI/ooiq3-CNZiI/s1600/RAD_7351.jpg

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