Re: [RBW] Planning to ride Sacramento - San Fransisco

[Addison Wilhite]

I haven't ridden that section but the Adventure Cycling Association has a
route map that takes you from Reno, Sacramento, to SF.  You should check
there because it may be a good option.

Regards,


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On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 6:17 AM, Carl Otto Wollin <
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> Hello RBW - list
>
> I'm an enthusiast from Sweden who is visiting the Bay Area in September.
> I'm interested in riding from Sacramento to San Fransisco I'm interested to
> get information regarding my planned route where should I plan to ride. Is
> it any dangerous passage that I should try to avoid? Is it possible do this
> ride in one day or should I plan for layover, what do you have for
> recommendations?
>
> All informations and suggestions are highly appreciated!
>
> Regards
>
> Carl Otto Wollin
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Re: [RBW] Planning to ride Sacramento - San Fransisco

[Eric Norris]

Carl:

I have a 200-kilometer route from Davis (just west of Sacramento) to San 
Francisco via Napa, Sonoma, Petaluma, Fairfax, and Sausalito. 

My friends and I have ridden this many times. The ride from Davis to San 
Francisco typically takes us about 12 hours, including stops for breakfast and 
lunch. I made a video of the 2011 ride:

http://youtu.be/143MqQlB1A8

If you're interested, I'll send you the route sheet.

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
www.campyonly.com
campyonlyguy.blogspot.com

On Jul 13, 2014, at 6:17 AM, Carl Otto Wollin  
wrote:

> Hello RBW - list
> 
> I'm an enthusiast from Sweden who is visiting the Bay Area in September. I'm 
> interested in riding from Sacramento to San Fransisco I'm interested to get 
> information regarding my planned route where should I plan to ride. Is it any 
> dangerous passage that I should try to avoid? Is it possible do this ride in 
> one day or should I plan for layover, what do you have for recommendations?
> 
> All informations and suggestions are highly appreciated!
> 
> Regards
> 
> Carl Otto Wollin
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RE: [RBW] Planning to ride Sacramento - San Fransisco

[Carl Otto Wollin]

That was a very good recourse for Route planning.
Time is now for planing and then I take of in September,
Thank you!
Otto W

Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 06:21:39 -0700
Subject: Re: [RBW] Planning to ride Sacramento - San Fransisco
From: addisonwilh...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

I haven't ridden that section but the Adventure Cycling Association has a route 
map that takes you from Reno, Sacramento, to SF.  You should check there 
because it may be a good option.

Regards,
Addison Wilhite, M.A. 
Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology 
"Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success"
Educator: Professional Portfolio
Blogger: Reno Rambler 
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On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 6:17 AM, Carl Otto Wollin  
wrote:

Hello RBW - list



I'm an enthusiast from Sweden who is visiting the Bay Area in September. I'm 
interested in riding from Sacramento to San Fransisco I'm interested to get 
information regarding my planned route where should I plan to ride. Is it any 
dangerous passage that I should try to avoid? Is it possible do this ride in 
one day or should I plan for layover, what do you have for recommendations?




All informations and suggestions are highly appreciated!



Regards



Carl Otto Wollin



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Re: [RBW] Planning to ride Sacramento - San Fransisco

['pb' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Otto,

For what it's worth -- Sacramento itself is a worthwhile destination, but 
riding from Sac to San Francisco would not be at the top of my list if I 
were a visitor.  Sacramento is in a very flat river valley, it will be 
quite hot, and I don't consider that area particularly scenic.  

On the other hand, western Marin County and western Sonoma County hold some 
of the most beautiful riding in the US, including the last 33% of Eric's 
route.  If you would like further thoughts, please let me know. 

~Peter

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RE: [RBW] Planning to ride Sacramento - San Fransisco

[Carl Otto Wollin]

Hi Peter 
I am open to hear all views regarding this ride, I have been in Sac several 
time before so I have seen the are a few times but without a bike. I am beware 
that the temperatures in September could go up in the 80-90 s, I like to listen 
to all views regarding bike riding in San Fran/ Sac area.
Otto W

Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 13:51:50 -0700
From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Planning to ride Sacramento - San Fransisco

Otto,
For what it's worth -- Sacramento itself is a worthwhile destination, but 
riding from Sac to San Francisco would not be at the top of my list if I were a 
visitor.  Sacramento is in a very flat river valley, it will be quite hot, and 
I don't consider that area particularly scenic.  
On the other hand, western Marin County and western Sonoma County hold some of 
the most beautiful riding in the US, including the last 33% of Eric's route.  
If you would like further thoughts, please let me know. 
~Peter
  





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Re: [RBW] Planning to ride Sacramento - San Fransisco

[Kurt Manley]

If I was doing it and had the time I'd do it in two days taking the basic 
route that Eric mentioned. You could take a direct route from Sac~SF but it 
wouldn't be a very nice ride in my opinion. If you head through Napa and 
Marin you're riding through some incredibly beautiful areas. It could be 
done in a day but I like to have time to stop and explore, take pictures, 
ect. so I'd plan on camping along the way.
have fun!




On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:18:04 AM UTC-7, Carl Otto Wollin wrote:
>
> Hi Peter 
>
> I am open to hear all views regarding this ride, I have been in Sac 
> several time before so I have seen the are a few times but without a bike. 
> I am beware that the temperatures in September could go up in the 80-90 s, 
> I like to listen to all views regarding bike riding in San Fran/ Sac area.
>
> Otto W
>
> --
> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 13:51:50 -0700
> From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Planning to ride Sacramento - San Fransisco
>
> Otto,
>
> For what it's worth -- Sacramento itself is a worthwhile destination, but 
> riding from Sac to San Francisco would not be at the top of my list if I 
> were a visitor.  Sacramento is in a very flat river valley, it will be 
> quite hot, and I don't consider that area particularly scenic.  
>
> On the other hand, western Marin County and western Sonoma County hold 
> some of the most beautiful riding in the US, including the last 33% of 
> Eric's route.  If you would like further thoughts, please let me know. 
>
> ~Peter
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Re: [RBW] Planning to ride Sacramento - San Fransisco

[Jim Bronson]

Nice, Eric!  I want to ride this sometime when i am out that way visiting
relatives.  Is available as RUSA permanent?
On Jul 13, 2014 9:30 AM, "Eric Norris"  wrote:

> Carl:
>
> I have a 200-kilometer route from Davis (just west of Sacramento) to San
> Francisco via Napa, Sonoma, Petaluma, Fairfax, and Sausalito.
>
> My friends and I have ridden this many times. The ride from Davis to San
> Francisco typically takes us about 12 hours, including stops for breakfast
> and lunch. I made a video of the 2011 ride:
>
> http://youtu.be/143MqQlB1A8
>
> If you’re interested, I’ll send you the route sheet.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyonly...@me.com
> www.campyonly.com
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
>
> On Jul 13, 2014, at 6:17 AM, Carl Otto Wollin 
> wrote:
>
> Hello RBW - list
>
> I'm an enthusiast from Sweden who is visiting the Bay Area in September.
> I'm interested in riding from Sacramento to San Fransisco I'm interested to
> get information regarding my planned route where should I plan to ride. Is
> it any dangerous passage that I should try to avoid? Is it possible do this
> ride in one day or should I plan for layover, what do you have for
> recommendations?
>
> All informations and suggestions are highly appreciated!
>
> Regards
>
> Carl Otto Wollin
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Re: [RBW] Planning to ride Sacramento - San Fransisco

[Eric Norris]

I plan to submit this as a perm sometime. For now, it's just a fun ride.

BTW, this route has been much improved in the past few years with the widening 
of Hwy 12. There is now a nice, wide bike lane along the highway between Napa 
and Sonoma.

--Eric N
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> On Jul 15, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Jim Bronson  wrote:
> 
> Nice, Eric!  I want to ride this sometime when i am out that way visiting 
> relatives.  Is available as RUSA permanent?
> 
>> On Jul 13, 2014 9:30 AM, "Eric Norris"  wrote:
>> Carl:
>> 
>> I have a 200-kilometer route from Davis (just west of Sacramento) to San 
>> Francisco via Napa, Sonoma, Petaluma, Fairfax, and Sausalito. 
>> 
>> My friends and I have ridden this many times. The ride from Davis to San 
>> Francisco typically takes us about 12 hours, including stops for breakfast 
>> and lunch. I made a video of the 2011 ride:
>> 
>> http://youtu.be/143MqQlB1A8
>> 
>> If you’re interested, I’ll send you the route sheet.
>> 
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyonly...@me.com
>> www.campyonly.com
>> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
>> 
>>> On Jul 13, 2014, at 6:17 AM, Carl Otto Wollin  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello RBW - list
>>> 
>>> I'm an enthusiast from Sweden who is visiting the Bay Area in September. 
>>> I'm interested in riding from Sacramento to San Fransisco I'm interested to 
>>> get information regarding my planned route where should I plan to ride. Is 
>>> it any dangerous passage that I should try to avoid? Is it possible do this 
>>> ride in one day or should I plan for layover, what do you have for 
>>> recommendations?
>>> 
>>> All informations and suggestions are highly appreciated!
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Carl Otto Wollin
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Re: [RBW] Planning to ride Sacramento - San Fransisco

[Geoff Cisler]

Otto,

I did that ride back in 2012 and split it over two days.  My halfway point 
was a family members, but there are plenty of options in petaluma, I 
imagine.  I would have to say the second day was just tremendous and 
amazing, but the first day provided a nice contrast.  I grew up in the Bay 
Area and had been to this section of California many many times, but it 
wasn't until I rode it on my bike that I really understood the terrain and 
its beauty.
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/988169
pics: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jpbikeresearch/sets/72157629546704651/# 

good luck and report back.  beware of the headwinds!!

geoff (in Boston, MA)

On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 3:18:04 AM UTC-4, Carl Otto Wollin wrote:
>
> Hi Peter 
>
> I am open to hear all views regarding this ride, I have been in Sac 
> several time before so I have seen the are a few times but without a bike. 
> I am beware that the temperatures in September could go up in the 80-90 s, 
> I like to listen to all views regarding bike riding in San Fran/ Sac area.
>
> Otto W
>
> --
> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 13:51:50 -0700
> From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Planning to ride Sacramento - San Fransisco
>
> Otto,
>
> For what it's worth -- Sacramento itself is a worthwhile destination, but 
> riding from Sac to San Francisco would not be at the top of my list if I 
> were a visitor.  Sacramento is in a very flat river valley, it will be 
> quite hot, and I don't consider that area particularly scenic.  
>
> On the other hand, western Marin County and western Sonoma County hold 
> some of the most beautiful riding in the US, including the last 33% of 
> Eric's route.  If you would like further thoughts, please let me know. 
>
> ~Peter
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Re: [RBW] Planning to ride Sacramento - San Fransisco

[Anne Paulson]

Replying to this now that I'm back from the Moot, and I have to agree with
Peter. I've ridden from the Sacramento area to Napa several times. It's not
terrible, but I wouldn't voluntarily schedule a two day tour with that as
one of the days. It will be hot, flat and windy.

One can spend two happy days touring in Marin and Sonoma. One can spend two
happy days touring in the Santa Cruz mountains south of San Francisco.
Either of those would be my pick over riding from Sacramento to San
Francisco. If I were in Sacramento with a bike loaded with touring gear and
two days to tour, the first thing I'd do would be to hop on the train to
San Jose. Roll on/roll off bike service!


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> Otto,
>
> For what it's worth -- Sacramento itself is a worthwhile destination, but
> riding from Sac to San Francisco would not be at the top of my list if I
> were a visitor.  Sacramento is in a very flat river valley, it will be
> quite hot, and I don't consider that area particularly scenic.
>
> On the other hand, western Marin County and western Sonoma County hold
> some of the most beautiful riding in the US, including the last 33% of
> Eric's route.  If you would like further thoughts, please let me know.
>
> ~Peter
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Re: [RBW] Planning to ride Sacramento - San Fransisco

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On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 2:11:00 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
>  If I were in Sacramento with a bike loaded with touring gear and two days 
> to tour, the first thing I'd do would be to hop on the train to San Jose. 
> Roll on/roll off bike service!
>

Thanks, Anne.  I didn't want to sound overly negative.  You hit the nail on 
the head. 

My version of Anne's train to San Jose would be to figure out how to get to 
Santa Rosa (bus?  friend?), then ride something along the lines of 
Occidental to Russian River then south toward San Francisco.  Depending on 
one's ambition and taste, there is some awfully nice country in the hills 
to the north of the Russian River, but that would likely involve more than 
two days.  I found some roads in the area of Annapolis that were magic -- 
worn two-lanes winding in and out of vineyards, and down into creek 
valleys, with cars every fifteen minutes.  Some tough climbs (18%-ish), but 
short.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/pbridge1300/9954953633/  et seq

My preference for the North Bay is probably the simple result of knowing it 
better than I know the South Bay.  And it's less densely populated.

~Peter


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Re: [RBW] Planning to ride Sacramento - San Fransisco

[Eric Norris]

"Hot, flat and windy"?

H ... Not really. Sure, it's hot in the summer, and the first 25 miles or 
so are mostly flat, but after that the course is very lumpy, with a number of 
minor and major climbs. Here's the route in GPS, which estimates about 6,700 
feet of climbing: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1930036 

--Eric Norris
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On Jul 17, 2014, at 10:21 AM, 'pb' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 wrote:

> 
> 
> On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 2:11:00 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
>  If I were in Sacramento with a bike loaded with touring gear and two days to 
> tour, the first thing I'd do would be to hop on the train to San Jose. Roll 
> on/roll off bike service!
> 
> Thanks, Anne.  I didn't want to sound overly negative.  You hit the nail on 
> the head. 
> 
> My version of Anne's train to San Jose would be to figure out how to get to 
> Santa Rosa (bus?  friend?), then ride something along the lines of Occidental 
> to Russian River then south toward San Francisco.  Depending on one's 
> ambition and taste, there is some awfully nice country in the hills to the 
> north of the Russian River, but that would likely involve more than two days. 
>  I found some roads in the area of Annapolis that were magic -- worn 
> two-lanes winding in and out of vineyards, and down into creek valleys, with 
> cars every fifteen minutes.  Some tough climbs (18%-ish), but short.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/pbridge1300/9954953633/  et seq
> 
> My preference for the North Bay is probably the simple result of knowing it 
> better than I know the South Bay.  And it's less densely populated.
> 
> ~Peter
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Planning to ride Sacramento - San Fransisco

[Anne Paulson]

I like both the North Bay and the South Bay for touring. It's true that
Silicon Valley is more densely populated than Marin, but you don't tour in
the valley: you ride up in the hills, and you ride on the coast. It's quick
to get away from the densely populated areas, provided you are willing to
climb.

Occidental to the Russian River and then south makes a great tour. I've
done it numerous times, and enjoyed it every time. There are several routes
from Occidental, all good: south on the Bohemian Highway, up Coleman Valley
Road to the coast, down to the Russian River and down the coast, down to
the Russian River then up again on Willow Creek and down Coleman Valley
either east or west. Once you reach Point Reyes Station, again you have
options: Sir Francis Drake, Highway 1 to Bolinas-Fairfax, Highway 1 to
Panoramic, or even going through the Golden Gate National Recreation Area
if you have wide enough tires. The area from the Russian River to the
Golden Gate Bridge is my favorite spot for tours.

There are several good places to camp along the coast. However, do not make
the mistake I made Monday, and show up at Steep Ravine without a
reservation hoping to be able to camp. Bad plan. I was turned away and
ended up having to ride back up to Pantoll (on Mt. Tam). Nothing like
another 1800 feet of climbing when you thought you were done for the day.


On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21 AM, 'pb' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 2:11:00 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
>>
>>  If I were in Sacramento with a bike loaded with touring gear and two
>> days to tour, the first thing I'd do would be to hop on the train to San
>> Jose. Roll on/roll off bike service!
>>
>
> Thanks, Anne.  I didn't want to sound overly negative.  You hit the nail
> on the head.
>
> My version of Anne's train to San Jose would be to figure out how to get
> to Santa Rosa (bus?  friend?), then ride something along the lines of
> Occidental to Russian River then south toward San Francisco.  Depending on
> one's ambition and taste, there is some awfully nice country in the hills
> to the north of the Russian River, but that would likely involve more than
> two days.  I found some roads in the area of Annapolis that were magic --
> worn two-lanes winding in and out of vineyards, and down into creek
> valleys, with cars every fifteen minutes.  Some tough climbs (18%-ish), but
> short.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/pbridge1300/9954953633/  et seq
>
> My preference for the North Bay is probably the simple result of knowing
> it better than I know the South Bay.  And it's less densely populated.
>
> ~Peter
>
>
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