Re: [RBW] Re: How do you know when tires are worn out?
On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 17:39 -0800, EricP wrote: Don't have mine in a shed, but tan sidewalls generally gave out after a year. Not complete failure, just enough pulling apart to not appear safe. Had a set of Pasela 35s with less than 2,000 miles on them that were pulled off because of that issue. Yours, perhaps, but definitely not mine. This is the 3rd year for the 32mm Paselas I use on my VO as winter tires, the 2nd year for the red Hetres, the 3rd or maybe even 4th year for the old CdlVs I'm now using on my P/R Porteur (I took them off the other bikes when their treads got worn, but saved them just in case - there's still plenty of meat left on a CdlV once the tread blocks are worn smooth) and every one of them has tan sidewalls and in every case, the sidewalls are fine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How do you know when tires are worn out?
No big deal if the chex are gone. Look at the rear and see if it's starting to square off instead of being round. That'll be a good sign that the end is imminent. From there it'll start being more common to get flats due to the thinner rubber. Also check your sidewalls from cracking/damage. That's where my tires tend to go bad due to heat in the garage. On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 12:44 PM, williwoods willh...@yahoo.com wrote: they are toast when you see the tube sticking out. lol good question, I would like to know as well. On Jan 3, 12:24 pm, Michael Shaljian mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote: I've had a set of Jack Browns on my Quickbeam since getting it in May '09, and I've probably got near 2500 miles on them. They seem to ride just fine, but I'm wondering what I should be looking for to know if the tread is worn out. I'm 180 lbs., for what it's worth, and I assume these should have a max lifespan of about 3000 miles? If the original 'checkerboard tread' has been worn down to totally smooth, are they worn out? Or are they basically fine until all tread is gone? As expensive as good tires are I'm not eager to change sooner than necessary, but I do have a set of Schwalbes waiting that I'd like to try out, maybe just to mix up my riding with new rubber? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How do you know when tires are worn out?
On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 12:47 -0800, cyclotourist wrote: No big deal if the chex are gone. Look at the rear and see if it's starting to square off instead of being round. That'll be a good sign that the end is imminent. I don't know about the Jack Browns, but with the Ruffy Tuffy you could generally get over 2,000 miles more after the checks wore off. The tread on the RT was rather thick, and even with the tread absolutely squared off there was still plenty of tread left. From there it'll start being more common to get flats due to the thinner rubber. That's the most reliable sign in my experience. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How do you know when tires are worn out?
I second the recommendation to keep a close eye on the sidewalks. Sun can really do a number on the sidewalks. A flat will most likely occur on the thinning rubber of the contact area, but the sidewalks are likely to just blow out. Sidewalk blow outs usually are dangerous, and usually can not be repaired. Flats in the contact band can most often be repaired. Sent From My iPhone On Jan 3, 2011, at 12:52 PM, bfd bfd...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 3, 12:47 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: No big deal if the chex are gone. Look at the rear and see if it's starting to square off instead of being round. That'll be a good sign that the end is imminent. From there it'll start being more common to get flats due to the thinner rubber. Also check your sidewalls from cracking/damage. That's where my tires tend to go bad due to heat in the garage. Agree, Sheldon Brown sums it up here: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tires.html#wear Also, if you want your stash of tires to last, don't forget to read Sheldon on tire rotation: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-rotation.html Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: How do you know when tires are worn out?
Aw, it was much more humorous as auto-corrected... -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Shine Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:09 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: How do you know when tires are worn out? In my last post, the iPhone auto spell corrected sidewalls to sidewalks, if it wasn't already obvious. Sent From My iPhone On Jan 3, 2011, at 1:01 PM, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I second the recommendation to keep a close eye on the sidewalks. Sun can really do a number on the sidewalks. A flat will most likely occur on the thinning rubber of the contact area, but the sidewalks are likely to just blow out. Sidewalk blow outs usually are dangerous, and usually can not be repaired. Flats in the contact band can most often be repaired. Sent From My iPhone On Jan 3, 2011, at 12:52 PM, bfd bfd...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 3, 12:47 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: No big deal if the chex are gone. Look at the rear and see if it's starting to square off instead of being round. That'll be a good sign that the end is imminent. From there it'll start being more common to get flats due to the thinner rubber. Also check your sidewalls from cracking/damage. That's where my tires tend to go bad due to heat in the garage. Agree, Sheldon Brown sums it up here: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tires.html#wear Also, if you want your stash of tires to last, don't forget to read Sheldon on tire rotation: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-rotation.html Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How do you know when tires are worn out?
On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 13:01 -0800, Ray Shine wrote: I second the recommendation to keep a close eye on the sidewalks. Sun can really do a number on the sidewalks. A flat will most likely occur on the thinning rubber of the contact area, but the sidewalks are likely to just blow out. Sidewalk blow outs usually are dangerous, and usually can not be repaired. Flats in the contact band can most often be repaired. It's funny, in decades of riding I have never once had sidewall (never mind sidewalk) deterioration, and the only sidewall blowouts I've had have been due to cuts (misaligned brake block in one case, burr on the inside of the bead seat area of the rim in the other). This must depend a lot on local environmental conditions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How do you know when tires are worn out?
My sidewalls (and often tread) start drying out and cracking after a year or so, long before the tread is worn. Panaracer made tires (Pasela, RT, CdlV) are the worst. I'm 100% sure it's due to having my bikes in a broiling-hot corrugated shed, but you work with whatcha' got... On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 13:01 -0800, Ray Shine wrote: I second the recommendation to keep a close eye on the sidewalks. Sun can really do a number on the sidewalks. A flat will most likely occur on the thinning rubber of the contact area, but the sidewalks are likely to just blow out. Sidewalk blow outs usually are dangerous, and usually can not be repaired. Flats in the contact band can most often be repaired. It's funny, in decades of riding I have never once had sidewall (never mind sidewalk) deterioration, and the only sidewall blowouts I've had have been due to cuts (misaligned brake block in one case, burr on the inside of the bead seat area of the rim in the other). This must depend a lot on local environmental conditions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How do you know when tires are worn out?
When it looks like this: http://s971.photobucket.com/albums/ae196/beewak23/Worn out tire/ Cheers- Mike in So. Boston, Mass -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How do you know when tires are worn out?
Sorry, bad link... Try *http://tinyurl.com/2c76arf * On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 8:05 PM, MichaelS bee...@gmail.com wrote: When it looks like this: http://s971.photobucket.com/albums/ae196/beewak23/Worn out tire/ Cheers- Mike in So. Boston, Mass -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How do you know when tires are worn out?
And don't forget, the rumor that well worn tires are lighter, more supple, and faster! But it's the increasing frequency of flats, and then creeping paranoia on fast downhill curves...and the anticipation of proudly wearing out a tire through honest mileage! On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:07 PM, MichaelS bee...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, bad link... Try *http://tinyurl.com/2c76arf * On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 8:05 PM, MichaelS bee...@gmail.com wrote: When it looks like this: http://s971.photobucket.com/albums/ae196/beewak23/Worn out tire/ Cheers- Mike in So. Boston, Mass -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
