Re: [RBW] Bob Brown Cycles Road Frame (as referenced in Cheviot thread)
On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Beautiful M.A.P. --> APPROVE > Three photos from the non-drive side --> DISAPPROVE > 😉 > Oy! Good point. And it's got one of those fancy TA Pro 5 Vis cranks I'd always wanted to ride (but never wanted to pay for) too! I guess I'll have to go for another ride and get some better pictures. Aw, dang. ::grin:: Reed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Bob Brown Cycles Road Frame (as referenced in Cheviot thread)
Geez that is such a beauty that it would be tempting to try what blakcloud recommends first before selling it off On Wednesday, August 10, 2016 at 11:34:52 AM UTC-5, blakcloud wrote: > > SeanMac, beautiful bike. > > Richard Sachs sometimes post on VS and his own website when a customer has > a bike to sell, maybe Bob Brown has the something similar. His wait time > for a bike is 12-18 months according to the website so maybe he knows > someone who wants something close to what you have and they could get it > sooner. I would reach out to him and get his thoughts. > > If it was my bike, I wouldn't sell it. Too much of a financial hit and too > beautiful. I would convert it to 650b and change out the stem to a Tallux > with Map/Ahearne or Jitensha bar and see how that goes. If that doesn't > work for you, then part it out and sell it. You will get more money that > way. > > No it won't be a Clem but it will certainly be nicer to look at. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Bob Brown Cycles Road Frame (as referenced in Cheviot thread)
Well, that's because I got this thread confused with another one about fenders in which I posted a photo of /my/ MAP. Reading backwards, newest first, I hadn't come upon the posting of that lovely red MAP. It's not like MAPs are to be found everywhere, like mosquitoes or dandelions. On 08/10/2016 12:37 PM, blakcloud wrote: On Wednesday, August 10, 2016 at 7:09:45 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: Come on, folks - this was about *fenders*. Drive side, non-drive side - cranks are nothing but a distraction in this case. Really I think fenders are the real distraction here because no one mentioned them but you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Bob Brown Cycles Road Frame (as referenced in Cheviot thread)
On Wednesday, August 10, 2016 at 7:09:45 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > Come on, folks - this was about *fenders*. Drive side, non-drive side - > cranks are nothing but a distraction in this case. > > > Really I think fenders are the real distraction here because no one mentioned them but you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Bob Brown Cycles Road Frame (as referenced in Cheviot thread)
SeanMac, beautiful bike. Richard Sachs sometimes post on VS and his own website when a customer has a bike to sell, maybe Bob Brown has the something similar. His wait time for a bike is 12-18 months according to the website so maybe he knows someone who wants something close to what you have and they could get it sooner. I would reach out to him and get his thoughts. If it was my bike, I wouldn't sell it. Too much of a financial hit and too beautiful. I would convert it to 650b and change out the stem to a Tallux with Map/Ahearne or Jitensha bar and see how that goes. If that doesn't work for you, then part it out and sell it. You will get more money that way. No it won't be a Clem but it will certainly be nicer to look at. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Bob Brown Cycles Road Frame (as referenced in Cheviot thread)
Come on, folks - this was about *fenders*. Drive side, non-drive side - cranks are nothing but a distraction in this case. On 08/10/2016 01:15 AM, Bill Lindsay wrote: Beautiful M.A.P. --> APPROVE Three photos from the non-drive side --> DISAPPROVE 😉 Bill Lindsay El Cerrito Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Bob Brown Cycles Road Frame (as referenced in Cheviot thread)
Drive side photos are so last century. These days it's all about the bottom bracket. Philip www.biketinker.com On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 10:15:01 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Beautiful M.A.P. --> APPROVE > Three photos from the non-drive side --> DISAPPROVE > 😉 > Bill Lindsay > El Cerrito Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Bob Brown Cycles Road Frame (as referenced in Cheviot thread)
Wow, that is fantastic. Mitch is one of my favorite builders, and that's an amazing bike. I think our saddle heights are the same, too... Philip www.biketinker.com On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 8:09:15 PM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote: > > Indeed, that is a gorgeous frame! I love the deep rich red. It's like the > color of a candy apple in a dream, just a little more red than is possible > in the real world. > > I'll also contribute a short happy story about buying a used custom bike > because, well, I just bought one. > > After reading through many an issue of Bicycle Quarterly I became enamored > of Jan Heine's Universal Recommended Bicycle (low trail, front load, flexy, > etc). I asked Jan about builders to consider, and he recommended Mitch at > MAP. I reached out to Mitch, who was wonderful, but said he was fully > booked and not even taking reservations for a while. > > You can imagine how excited I was when I saw a MAP Randonneur posted to a > local list. And all the better, it turns out the fellow who had it built > shares my dimensions (height, PBH, saddle height) and had worked out his > dream bike over years of randonneuring and commissioning customs. After > scraping together money for a bit over a month I went for a test ride and > fell in love. I didn't even have to adjust the seat height. In the end I > was able to benefit from all the research and testing a same-sized fellow > had done. He designed a bike that almost undoubtedly fits me better than > one I would have designed myself. > > Now, I would have spec'd 650B wheels, more modern brakes, and pannier > lowriders up front. But I'm happy to give those things up in order to have > this bike, today, and for about half price! > > So don't give up hope! And keep an eye out for similar sized folks! > > For the curious, here's the new-to-me bike: > https://goo.gl/photos/cXWTnxCCiJdJmtfw7 > https://goo.gl/photos/TLeGdKpToUcCqLJ77 > https://goo.gl/photos/mRD6dYcfRKbvDQz37 > > > Reed > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Abcyclehank > > wrote: > >> Sean, >> That is a beautiful custom lugged frame. Although others have cited the >> issues of customs not holding value. The good news is your only need to >> find one person who shares you vision and size. As you started your build >> is pretty standard. >> Another option is to sell frame set separate from group set. Also >> keeping the Campy build for yourself potentially. >> >> Good luck. >> Ryan Hankinson >> Muskegon, MI >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >> . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Bob Brown Cycles Road Frame (as referenced in Cheviot thread)
Beautiful M.A.P. --> APPROVE Three photos from the non-drive side --> DISAPPROVE 😉 Bill Lindsay El Cerrito Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Bob Brown Cycles Road Frame (as referenced in Cheviot thread)
Congratulations Reed! That bike was really meant for you! René On Tuesday, August 9, 2016, Joe Bernard wrote: > Wow, that sure is purty. I recommend getting a measurement on the seattube > at the top of the toptube. I think you measured to the tip of the seat lug, > which isn't a standard sizing location. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > . > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Bob Brown Cycles Road Frame (as referenced in Cheviot thread)
As Reed states half price is a good starting point on a used custom bike. That said, I have no clue what a Bob Brown frame goes for new. I also picked up one custom used and received a screaming deal. Yet I would quickly pay $1500 for a used 68cm Custom Rivendell frame set. Or up to $2500 for a complete bike. Sincerely, Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Bob Brown Cycles Road Frame (as referenced in Cheviot thread)
Indeed, that is a gorgeous frame! I love the deep rich red. It's like the color of a candy apple in a dream, just a little more red than is possible in the real world. I'll also contribute a short happy story about buying a used custom bike because, well, I just bought one. After reading through many an issue of Bicycle Quarterly I became enamored of Jan Heine's Universal Recommended Bicycle (low trail, front load, flexy, etc). I asked Jan about builders to consider, and he recommended Mitch at MAP. I reached out to Mitch, who was wonderful, but said he was fully booked and not even taking reservations for a while. You can imagine how excited I was when I saw a MAP Randonneur posted to a local list. And all the better, it turns out the fellow who had it built shares my dimensions (height, PBH, saddle height) and had worked out his dream bike over years of randonneuring and commissioning customs. After scraping together money for a bit over a month I went for a test ride and fell in love. I didn't even have to adjust the seat height. In the end I was able to benefit from all the research and testing a same-sized fellow had done. He designed a bike that almost undoubtedly fits me better than one I would have designed myself. Now, I would have spec'd 650B wheels, more modern brakes, and pannier lowriders up front. But I'm happy to give those things up in order to have this bike, today, and for about half price! So don't give up hope! And keep an eye out for similar sized folks! For the curious, here's the new-to-me bike: https://goo.gl/photos/cXWTnxCCiJdJmtfw7 https://goo.gl/photos/TLeGdKpToUcCqLJ77 https://goo.gl/photos/mRD6dYcfRKbvDQz37 Reed On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Abcyclehank wrote: > Sean, > That is a beautiful custom lugged frame. Although others have cited the > issues of customs not holding value. The good news is your only need to > find one person who shares you vision and size. As you started your build > is pretty standard. > Another option is to sell frame set separate from group set. Also keeping > the Campy build for yourself potentially. > > Good luck. > Ryan Hankinson > Muskegon, MI > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
