Re: [RBW] Mixte vs Diamond Frame

['upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Linda,
That sounds like fine gearing to me.  I have a Jamis Coda hybrid bike that 
is a triple 28/38/48  with a 11-32 cassette.  I'm in the middle/middle most 
of the time but use the low gearing for sure when loaded or on hills.  
My road bike is a Shimano 9 speed 30/42/53 and I use the lowest granny 
gears for the long hills here. 

Hi Shoji,
Thanks for your input.  I will look at my current set up to be sure what I 
have.  
cheers,
Kate

On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 1:42:10 PM UTC-5 Linda G wrote:

> Kate,
> I like a 42/26 compact double in front and an 11-32 cassette.  I can 
> go up steep hills in a sitting position and I have plenty of high gears, 
> never using the outermost cogs on the cassette. At first it was a little 
> embarrassing to think I needed such low gears but I quickly got over it. 
> The gearing was never right for me on production bikes I had in the past. 
> This is the combo I run on my two diamond frame bikes. I'm thinking of 
> redoing my mixte from a triple to a 1x system. The mixte is mostly for 
> around town and I don't climb steep hills. I like the simplest possible 
> solution. There are cassettes that go lower than 32 so maybe you could opt 
> for a 1x with Riv's advice.
> Linda
>
> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 8:52:21 AM UTC-8 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks Tim and Joe for the shifting info and crank pics.  I'm just not 
>> sure what way to go with the new Platy.  I will ask for help from Riv HQ on 
>> this since I don't know.  I think with a Losco bar I will go with thumb 
>> shifters.  Haven't firmed up if I should go 1x11 or compact double.  I ride 
>> in flat areas but can also tackle some steep hills here in Central NJ and 
>> Bucks County PA.  I would like to have low enough gearing for that.  On my 
>> road bike, I rarely use the big ring and don't pedal down hill.  I'm just 
>> trying to control my speed mostly and keep it safe with my eye out for 
>> deer and critters crossing the road.  
>> Kate
>>
>> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 4:50:40 PM UTC-5 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>>
>>> Kate, if you're friction curious, Riv has Microshift thumb shifters or 
>>> Shimano bar end shifters that can switch between friction and index. Then 
>>> you can try both and see which you prefer. I like friction front and rear 
>>> myself.
>>> Joe, dig the reverse shifters. Gotta do what works for you.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 2:55:49 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 To wrap up my story and possibly amuse anyone who thinks I have the 
 weirdest FrankenShifting ever, here's the shifter. It's a Silver downtube 
 lever on a Paul Thumbie mounted on the right side (arthritis reasons I 
 won't bore anyone with again, most of you have heard it). Enjoy the weird! 

 On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 12:09:36 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Front indexing works well if you have the exact match of shifter, 
> derailleur and cranks and not at all if one of those pieces doesn't fit. 
> For instance my Rivendell Custom has a Sugino triple with 24-36-44 rings 
> and a Campagnolo triple front derailleur. This works for me but there's 
> no 
> chance I could find a front index shifter to shift it, plus friction 
> shifting front rings is very easy: It's only two or three rings and I can 
> see what the derailleur is doing as I'm moving the lever. I don't have 
> the 
> same "easy" experience with the rear so I go index there. *
>
> * No shade on folks who like front index and can live with the 
> matching bits it requires. Ride what you like! 
>
> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 7:49:36 AM UTC-8 upyou...@yahoo.com 
> wrote:
>
>> HI Joe, 
>> Thank you for the warm welcome.  I appreciate your input as I am just 
>> getting started and will have to make this decision for sure.  I am only 
>> use to rapid fire thumb shifters on my hybrid and brifters on my road 
>> bike.  I don't know anything about friction shifting so I'm not sure if 
>> this is for me.  Why didn't you use them for front and back?
>> Kate
>> Trenton, NJ
>>
>> *upyou...@yahoo.com*
>> *Kate Gilson*
>> [image: Image Preview]
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 24, 2021, 08:48:10 PM EST, Joe Bernard <
>> joer...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> Hi Kate, welcome to the Riv Show ‍♂️
>>
>> I think you'll love that gorgeous Platypus, it's the business! You 
>> can't go wrong with most of Riv's suggestions for parts, but the 
>> indexing/friction shifter conundrum may come up and I don't know what 
>> you're using on your road and trail bikes (and you may already know what 
>> you want and my advice is moot). Friction front is great, but Riv is 
>> also a 
>> big propronent of friction rear, as are many of its riders. I am not 
>> that 
>> person, I need clicky shifts for the rear derailleur. My 
>> 

Re: [RBW] Mixte vs Diamond Frame

[Linda G]

Kate,
I like a 42/26 compact double in front and an 11-32 cassette.  I can go 
up steep hills in a sitting position and I have plenty of high gears, never 
using the outermost cogs on the cassette. At first it was a little 
embarrassing to think I needed such low gears but I quickly got over it. 
The gearing was never right for me on production bikes I had in the past. 
This is the combo I run on my two diamond frame bikes. I'm thinking of 
redoing my mixte from a triple to a 1x system. The mixte is mostly for 
around town and I don't climb steep hills. I like the simplest possible 
solution. There are cassettes that go lower than 32 so maybe you could opt 
for a 1x with Riv's advice.
Linda

On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 8:52:21 AM UTC-8 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Thanks Tim and Joe for the shifting info and crank pics.  I'm just not 
> sure what way to go with the new Platy.  I will ask for help from Riv HQ on 
> this since I don't know.  I think with a Losco bar I will go with thumb 
> shifters.  Haven't firmed up if I should go 1x11 or compact double.  I ride 
> in flat areas but can also tackle some steep hills here in Central NJ and 
> Bucks County PA.  I would like to have low enough gearing for that.  On my 
> road bike, I rarely use the big ring and don't pedal down hill.  I'm just 
> trying to control my speed mostly and keep it safe with my eye out for 
> deer and critters crossing the road.  
> Kate
>
> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 4:50:40 PM UTC-5 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>
>> Kate, if you're friction curious, Riv has Microshift thumb shifters or 
>> Shimano bar end shifters that can switch between friction and index. Then 
>> you can try both and see which you prefer. I like friction front and rear 
>> myself.
>> Joe, dig the reverse shifters. Gotta do what works for you.
>>
>> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 2:55:49 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> To wrap up my story and possibly amuse anyone who thinks I have the 
>>> weirdest FrankenShifting ever, here's the shifter. It's a Silver downtube 
>>> lever on a Paul Thumbie mounted on the right side (arthritis reasons I 
>>> won't bore anyone with again, most of you have heard it). Enjoy the weird! 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 12:09:36 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Front indexing works well if you have the exact match of shifter, 
 derailleur and cranks and not at all if one of those pieces doesn't fit. 
 For instance my Rivendell Custom has a Sugino triple with 24-36-44 rings 
 and a Campagnolo triple front derailleur. This works for me but there's no 
 chance I could find a front index shifter to shift it, plus friction 
 shifting front rings is very easy: It's only two or three rings and I can 
 see what the derailleur is doing as I'm moving the lever. I don't have the 
 same "easy" experience with the rear so I go index there. *

 * No shade on folks who like front index and can live with the matching 
 bits it requires. Ride what you like! 

 On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 7:49:36 AM UTC-8 upyou...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:

> HI Joe, 
> Thank you for the warm welcome.  I appreciate your input as I am just 
> getting started and will have to make this decision for sure.  I am only 
> use to rapid fire thumb shifters on my hybrid and brifters on my road 
> bike.  I don't know anything about friction shifting so I'm not sure if 
> this is for me.  Why didn't you use them for front and back?
> Kate
> Trenton, NJ
>
> *upyou...@yahoo.com*
> *Kate Gilson*
> [image: Image Preview]
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 24, 2021, 08:48:10 PM EST, Joe Bernard <
> joer...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Hi Kate, welcome to the Riv Show ‍♂️
>
> I think you'll love that gorgeous Platypus, it's the business! You 
> can't go wrong with most of Riv's suggestions for parts, but the 
> indexing/friction shifter conundrum may come up and I don't know what 
> you're using on your road and trail bikes (and you may already know what 
> you want and my advice is moot). Friction front is great, but Riv is also 
> a 
> big propronent of friction rear, as are many of its riders. I am not that 
> person, I need clicky shifts for the rear derailleur. My 
> recently-purchased-used Riv Susie came with friction rear and I just 
> replaced it with this clicky-thing..I'll have a friction thumbshifter for 
> the front and this index for the rear, this is a setup Riv offers. 
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/kljs-gl46sgg
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 4:57:13 PM UTC-8 upyou...@yahoo.com 
> wrote:
>
> Oh hello new sister I will post pics. I just spoke with Will last 
> evening and secured myself the green. I’m so nervous and worried since 
> I’ve 
> never ridden a Riv nor have I ever ridden a mixer ha ha. I’ve 

Re: [RBW] Mixte vs Diamond Frame

[Shoji Takahashi]

Hi Kate,
Welcome! I, too, am awaiting a platypus. I've collected parts over the 
pandemic and can hardly wait to build it up for the spring season.

For gearing decisions, take a note of your current bike. You mention that 
you rarely use the big ring. What gearing do you typically use? What low is 
adequate for your steep climbs in NJ and PA? What is the highest gear that 
you use? I'd use these points to start my thinking of what cassette and 
chainring(s) to choose. That might inform whether you can go with 1X or 
double. 

I've got a Riv S!lver crankset (wide/low with guard). I don't need the 
small chainring. I might run it as 1X, which will simplify things (no front 
derailer+shifter needed), but I have the parts and maybe it'll come in 
handy for an infrequent heavy grocery run or something...

Good luck!
shoji
Arlington MA


On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 11:52:21 AM UTC-5 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Thanks Tim and Joe for the shifting info and crank pics.  I'm just not 
> sure what way to go with the new Platy.  I will ask for help from Riv HQ on 
> this since I don't know.  I think with a Losco bar I will go with thumb 
> shifters.  Haven't firmed up if I should go 1x11 or compact double.  I ride 
> in flat areas but can also tackle some steep hills here in Central NJ and 
> Bucks County PA.  I would like to have low enough gearing for that.  On my 
> road bike, I rarely use the big ring and don't pedal down hill.  I'm just 
> trying to control my speed mostly and keep it safe with my eye out for 
> deer and critters crossing the road.  
> Kate
>
> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 4:50:40 PM UTC-5 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>
>> Kate, if you're friction curious, Riv has Microshift thumb shifters or 
>> Shimano bar end shifters that can switch between friction and index. Then 
>> you can try both and see which you prefer. I like friction front and rear 
>> myself.
>> Joe, dig the reverse shifters. Gotta do what works for you.
>>
>> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 2:55:49 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> To wrap up my story and possibly amuse anyone who thinks I have the 
>>> weirdest FrankenShifting ever, here's the shifter. It's a Silver downtube 
>>> lever on a Paul Thumbie mounted on the right side (arthritis reasons I 
>>> won't bore anyone with again, most of you have heard it). Enjoy the weird! 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 12:09:36 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Front indexing works well if you have the exact match of shifter, 
 derailleur and cranks and not at all if one of those pieces doesn't fit. 
 For instance my Rivendell Custom has a Sugino triple with 24-36-44 rings 
 and a Campagnolo triple front derailleur. This works for me but there's no 
 chance I could find a front index shifter to shift it, plus friction 
 shifting front rings is very easy: It's only two or three rings and I can 
 see what the derailleur is doing as I'm moving the lever. I don't have the 
 same "easy" experience with the rear so I go index there. *

 * No shade on folks who like front index and can live with the matching 
 bits it requires. Ride what you like! 

 On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 7:49:36 AM UTC-8 upyou...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:

> HI Joe, 
> Thank you for the warm welcome.  I appreciate your input as I am just 
> getting started and will have to make this decision for sure.  I am only 
> use to rapid fire thumb shifters on my hybrid and brifters on my road 
> bike.  I don't know anything about friction shifting so I'm not sure if 
> this is for me.  Why didn't you use them for front and back?
> Kate
> Trenton, NJ
>
> *upyou...@yahoo.com*
> *Kate Gilson*
> [image: Image Preview]
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 24, 2021, 08:48:10 PM EST, Joe Bernard <
> joer...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Hi Kate, welcome to the Riv Show ‍♂️
>
> I think you'll love that gorgeous Platypus, it's the business! You 
> can't go wrong with most of Riv's suggestions for parts, but the 
> indexing/friction shifter conundrum may come up and I don't know what 
> you're using on your road and trail bikes (and you may already know what 
> you want and my advice is moot). Friction front is great, but Riv is also 
> a 
> big propronent of friction rear, as are many of its riders. I am not that 
> person, I need clicky shifts for the rear derailleur. My 
> recently-purchased-used Riv Susie came with friction rear and I just 
> replaced it with this clicky-thing..I'll have a friction thumbshifter for 
> the front and this index for the rear, this is a setup Riv offers. 
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/kljs-gl46sgg
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 4:57:13 PM UTC-8 upyou...@yahoo.com 
> wrote:
>
> Oh hello new sister I will post pics. I just spoke with Will last 
> evening and 

Re: [RBW] Mixte vs Diamond Frame

['upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks Tim and Joe for the shifting info and crank pics.  I'm just not sure 
what way to go with the new Platy.  I will ask for help from Riv HQ on this 
since I don't know.  I think with a Losco bar I will go with thumb 
shifters.  Haven't firmed up if I should go 1x11 or compact double.  I ride 
in flat areas but can also tackle some steep hills here in Central NJ and 
Bucks County PA.  I would like to have low enough gearing for that.  On my 
road bike, I rarely use the big ring and don't pedal down hill.  I'm just 
trying to control my speed mostly and keep it safe with my eye out for deer 
and critters crossing the road.  
Kate

On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 4:50:40 PM UTC-5 Tim Baldwin wrote:

> Kate, if you're friction curious, Riv has Microshift thumb shifters or 
> Shimano bar end shifters that can switch between friction and index. Then 
> you can try both and see which you prefer. I like friction front and rear 
> myself.
> Joe, dig the reverse shifters. Gotta do what works for you.
>
> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 2:55:49 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> To wrap up my story and possibly amuse anyone who thinks I have the 
>> weirdest FrankenShifting ever, here's the shifter. It's a Silver downtube 
>> lever on a Paul Thumbie mounted on the right side (arthritis reasons I 
>> won't bore anyone with again, most of you have heard it). Enjoy the weird! 
>>
>> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 12:09:36 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Front indexing works well if you have the exact match of shifter, 
>>> derailleur and cranks and not at all if one of those pieces doesn't fit. 
>>> For instance my Rivendell Custom has a Sugino triple with 24-36-44 rings 
>>> and a Campagnolo triple front derailleur. This works for me but there's no 
>>> chance I could find a front index shifter to shift it, plus friction 
>>> shifting front rings is very easy: It's only two or three rings and I can 
>>> see what the derailleur is doing as I'm moving the lever. I don't have the 
>>> same "easy" experience with the rear so I go index there. *
>>>
>>> * No shade on folks who like front index and can live with the matching 
>>> bits it requires. Ride what you like! 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 7:49:36 AM UTC-8 upyou...@yahoo.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 HI Joe, 
 Thank you for the warm welcome.  I appreciate your input as I am just 
 getting started and will have to make this decision for sure.  I am only 
 use to rapid fire thumb shifters on my hybrid and brifters on my road 
 bike.  I don't know anything about friction shifting so I'm not sure if 
 this is for me.  Why didn't you use them for front and back?
 Kate
 Trenton, NJ

 *upyou...@yahoo.com*
 *Kate Gilson*
 [image: Image Preview]


 On Wednesday, February 24, 2021, 08:48:10 PM EST, Joe Bernard <
 joer...@gmail.com> wrote: 


 Hi Kate, welcome to the Riv Show ‍♂️

 I think you'll love that gorgeous Platypus, it's the business! You 
 can't go wrong with most of Riv's suggestions for parts, but the 
 indexing/friction shifter conundrum may come up and I don't know what 
 you're using on your road and trail bikes (and you may already know what 
 you want and my advice is moot). Friction front is great, but Riv is also 
 a 
 big propronent of friction rear, as are many of its riders. I am not that 
 person, I need clicky shifts for the rear derailleur. My 
 recently-purchased-used Riv Susie came with friction rear and I just 
 replaced it with this clicky-thing..I'll have a friction thumbshifter for 
 the front and this index for the rear, this is a setup Riv offers. 

 https://www.rivbike.com/products/kljs-gl46sgg

 Joe Bernard

 On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 4:57:13 PM UTC-8 upyou...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:

 Oh hello new sister I will post pics. I just spoke with Will last 
 evening and secured myself the green. I’m so nervous and worried since 
 I’ve 
 never ridden a Riv nor have I ever ridden a mixer ha ha. I’ve never had 
 the 
 opportunity to select any parts of a bike before. This is so new I 
 wondered 
 if I made a mistake and should cancel but I came across this group and 
 found your pics and got excited that this could be a real good thing. 
 I will sleep better tonight knowing there are 2 sets of braze-ons fir 
 water bottles. 
 More questions to follow.
 Thanks for connecting. 
 Kate from NJ

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 24, 2021, at 19:42, Leah Peterson  wrote:

 Kate! A new #RivSister? Color me delighted! 


 You are going to LOVE your new Platy. Love. You can take it off on 
 trails or ride it on the road. You can haul things around with you, 
 commute, run errands, pedal aimlessly - it’s good for it all. I have a 
 Clem, too, and while it is very multidimensional, it 

Re: [RBW] Mixte vs Diamond Frame

[Tim Baldwin]

Kate, if you're friction curious, Riv has Microshift thumb shifters or 
Shimano bar end shifters that can switch between friction and index. Then 
you can try both and see which you prefer. I like friction front and rear 
myself.
Joe, dig the reverse shifters. Gotta do what works for you.

On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 2:55:49 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> To wrap up my story and possibly amuse anyone who thinks I have the 
> weirdest FrankenShifting ever, here's the shifter. It's a Silver downtube 
> lever on a Paul Thumbie mounted on the right side (arthritis reasons I 
> won't bore anyone with again, most of you have heard it). Enjoy the weird! 
>
> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 12:09:36 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Front indexing works well if you have the exact match of shifter, 
>> derailleur and cranks and not at all if one of those pieces doesn't fit. 
>> For instance my Rivendell Custom has a Sugino triple with 24-36-44 rings 
>> and a Campagnolo triple front derailleur. This works for me but there's no 
>> chance I could find a front index shifter to shift it, plus friction 
>> shifting front rings is very easy: It's only two or three rings and I can 
>> see what the derailleur is doing as I'm moving the lever. I don't have the 
>> same "easy" experience with the rear so I go index there. *
>>
>> * No shade on folks who like front index and can live with the matching 
>> bits it requires. Ride what you like! 
>>
>> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 7:49:36 AM UTC-8 upyou...@yahoo.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> HI Joe, 
>>> Thank you for the warm welcome.  I appreciate your input as I am just 
>>> getting started and will have to make this decision for sure.  I am only 
>>> use to rapid fire thumb shifters on my hybrid and brifters on my road 
>>> bike.  I don't know anything about friction shifting so I'm not sure if 
>>> this is for me.  Why didn't you use them for front and back?
>>> Kate
>>> Trenton, NJ
>>>
>>> *upyou...@yahoo.com*
>>> *Kate Gilson*
>>> [image: Image Preview]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 24, 2021, 08:48:10 PM EST, Joe Bernard <
>>> joer...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Kate, welcome to the Riv Show ‍♂️
>>>
>>> I think you'll love that gorgeous Platypus, it's the business! You can't 
>>> go wrong with most of Riv's suggestions for parts, but the 
>>> indexing/friction shifter conundrum may come up and I don't know what 
>>> you're using on your road and trail bikes (and you may already know what 
>>> you want and my advice is moot). Friction front is great, but Riv is also a 
>>> big propronent of friction rear, as are many of its riders. I am not that 
>>> person, I need clicky shifts for the rear derailleur. My 
>>> recently-purchased-used Riv Susie came with friction rear and I just 
>>> replaced it with this clicky-thing..I'll have a friction thumbshifter for 
>>> the front and this index for the rear, this is a setup Riv offers. 
>>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/kljs-gl46sgg
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 4:57:13 PM UTC-8 upyou...@yahoo.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh hello new sister I will post pics. I just spoke with Will last 
>>> evening and secured myself the green. I’m so nervous and worried since I’ve 
>>> never ridden a Riv nor have I ever ridden a mixer ha ha. I’ve never had the 
>>> opportunity to select any parts of a bike before. This is so new I wondered 
>>> if I made a mistake and should cancel but I came across this group and 
>>> found your pics and got excited that this could be a real good thing. 
>>> I will sleep better tonight knowing there are 2 sets of braze-ons fir 
>>> water bottles. 
>>> More questions to follow.
>>> Thanks for connecting. 
>>> Kate from NJ
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 19:42, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Kate! A new #RivSister? Color me delighted! 
>>>
>>>
>>> You are going to LOVE your new Platy. Love. You can take it off on 
>>> trails or ride it on the road. You can haul things around with you, 
>>> commute, run errands, pedal aimlessly - it’s good for it all. I have a 
>>> Clem, too, and while it is very multidimensional, it is not as fast. The 
>>> Platy turns so easily and just feels perfect for me. It has the comfort of 
>>> long chainstays but is not as long as the Clem - it truly does not feel 
>>> like a long bike to me. The Platy is quick and light and I swear it will be 
>>> even more so in that gorgeous green. I really am so happy for you. You will 
>>> show us your bike and report back, won’t you?
>>>
>>> Braze-ons - YES! There are two water bottle mounts and I am picturing 
>>> them below. Mine have some other stuff blocking a great view, but they are 
>>> there. 
>>>
>>> Did I miss anything? Ask all the questions you want. I’m so happy to 
>>> share.
>>> #RivSisters,
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 4:02 PM, 'upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> 

Re: [RBW] Mixte vs Diamond Frame

['Kate Gilson' via RBW Owners Bunch]

HI Joe, Thank you for the warm welcome.  I appreciate your input as I am just 
getting started and will have to make this decision for sure.  I am only use to 
rapid fire thumb shifters on my hybrid and brifters on my road bike.  I don't 
know anything about friction shifting so I'm not sure if this is for me.  Why 
didn't you use them for front and back?KateTrenton, NJ
upyourkarma@yahoo.comKate Gilson 

On Wednesday, February 24, 2021, 08:48:10 PM EST, Joe Bernard 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi Kate, welcome to the Riv Show ‍♂️
I think you'll love that gorgeous Platypus, it's the business! You can't go 
wrong with most of Riv's suggestions for parts, but the indexing/friction 
shifter conundrum may come up and I don't know what you're using on your road 
and trail bikes (and you may already know what you want and my advice is moot). 
Friction front is great, but Riv is also a big propronent of friction rear, as 
are many of its riders. I am not that person, I need clicky shifts for the rear 
derailleur. My recently-purchased-used Riv Susie came with friction rear and I 
just replaced it with this clicky-thing..I'll have a friction thumbshifter for 
the front and this index for the rear, this is a setup Riv offers. 
https://www.rivbike.com/products/kljs-gl46sgg
Joe Bernard

On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 4:57:13 PM UTC-8 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:

Oh hello new sister I will post pics. I just spoke with Will last evening 
and secured myself the green. I’m so nervous and worried since I’ve never 
ridden a Riv nor have I ever ridden a mixer ha ha. I’ve never had the 
opportunity to select any parts of a bike before. This is so new I wondered if 
I made a mistake and should cancel but I came across this group and found your 
pics and got excited that this could be a real good thing. I will sleep better 
tonight knowing there are 2 sets of braze-ons fir water bottles. More questions 
to follow.Thanks for connecting. Kate from NJ

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 24, 2021, at 19:42, Leah Peterson  wrote:



Kate! A new #RivSister? Color me delighted! 


You are going to LOVE your new Platy. Love. You can take it off on trails or 
ride it on the road. You can haul things around with you, commute, run errands, 
pedal aimlessly - it’s good for it all. I have a Clem, too, and while it is 
very multidimensional, it is not as fast. The Platy turns so easily and just 
feels perfect for me. It has the comfort of long chainstays but is not as long 
as the Clem - it truly does not feel like a long bike to me. The Platy is quick 
and light and I swear it will be even more so in that gorgeous green. I really 
am so happy for you. You will show us your bike and report back, won’t you?
Braze-ons - YES! There are two water bottle mounts and I am picturing them 
below. Mine have some other stuff blocking a great view, but they are there. 
Did I miss anything? Ask all the questions you want. I’m so happy to 
share.#RivSisters,Leah





Sent from my iPad

On Feb 24, 2021, at 4:02 PM, 'upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 wrote:



HI Leah,I really want to know how your new Platy rides.  I'm in line for a 
lovely green one and have never ridden a mixte.  I have an old road bike and an 
old trail bike.  I ride anywhere from an hour to a week of riding 40 miles a 
day.  I'm hoping the Platy will cover all my bases and I can unload my old 
bikes which I do not love. 
Can you confirm that there are braze-ons for 2 water bottles?  You sure do look 
happy with your bike.  CheersKate On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 9:34:51 AM 
UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

There is no cure for mixte-itis. The only way to be rid of it for sure is to 
ask your Appaloosa to scoot over and  allow a Platy to move into your garage. 
Once that is done, the next step in your treatment process is to message your 
#RivSisters and start planning your build and dreaming about finery.
There is no other way. Leah

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 28, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Melanie Yolles  wrote:





Thanks for everyone's thoughts on mixtes. So there is no difference in the ride 
per se, just some perceived advantages (aesthetics, ability to hop on/off 
without fear of hitting the top tube, ability to wear a sundress, LOL!).  There 
are definitely times I wished that my Appaloosa had a lower top tube. So now 
I'm trying to fight off a case of BBDD-induced Platypus fever. Is there a 
vaccine?
Melanie

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 8:47 AM Melanie  wrote:

All this discussion of mixtes on the list has made me curious. I’ve never 
ridden a mixte. Other than mounting/dismounting, do owners of both types of 
bikes experience any real differences between riding a mixte and riding a 
diamond frame?
Mixte-curious Melanie 

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Re: [RBW] Mixte vs Diamond Frame

[Roberta]

" You might also look for a thread by Melanie recently (past four weeks???) 
where she asked about "why a mixte."  "
Oh, duh, this IS Melanie's post! I thought this was in Bicycle Bell Ding 
Ding's (aka BBDD or Leah) post about the Platys.  We'll that's one worth 
reading too!

On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 10:05:13 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> Welcome new  #RivSister Kate  I"m in Philadelphia and drive to Morris 
> County every month.  Where are you located?
>
> My story is this:  I rode my high school bike for 15 years or so until it 
> was stolen.  I then got a Specialized hybrid, which I liked a lot but never 
> loved.  After 25 years, I wanted something more comfortable so I could keep 
> doing my weekend rides of perhaps 7 miles.  WELL... I tested a Riv Joe 
> Appaloosa and then gladly handed over my money.  It was more money than I 
> spent on all my bikes, repairs, tires, etc., in my entire life into this 
> one bike.  And, I can say after 3 1/2 years, it was worth it!  Best 
> investment ever!  (BTW, I"m not a bikey person, I just wanted a nice bike 
> to ride.)
>
> Oh, the JOY it brings me and the lack of neck and shoulder pain!  It is 
> SO  pleasurable to ride.  Now, instead of riding 7 miles two days a week,  
> on the weekends, I ride as many days as I can.  My "short" ride is 12 
> miles. Oh, the feeling of getting on a quality bike.  I ride more!  I 
> ride longer!  I ride happier!
>
> I love my diamond framed Joe A, but I'm selling it to get a Platy (I've 
> ordered a Mermaid blue from a Riv dealer) mixte.   The green one is 
> gorgeous and their paint jobs look even better in person.  I"m looking 
> forward to jumping off and not being "worried."  Also  there is a "freeing" 
> feeling when looking down and the top tube isn't so close--more open real 
> estate.
>
> Riv will fix you up with a nice bike with quality parts (quality doesn't 
> always mean expensive).  If you're near Philly, Keystone Bikes is not a Riv 
> dealer, but they are a Riv-loving group, with two of the owners owning 
> Rivs.Any other quality bike should near you should do.
>
> Please ask lots of questions, read lots of threads and welcome to the 
> group.  You might also look for a thread by Melanie recently (past four 
> weeks???) where she asked about "why a mixte."   
>
> Welcome!  You're in for a real treat!
>
> Roberta
>
> On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 7:57:13 PM UTC-5 upyou...@yahoo.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Oh hello new sister I will post pics. I just spoke with Will last 
>> evening and secured myself the green. I’m so nervous and worried since I’ve 
>> never ridden a Riv nor have I ever ridden a mixer ha ha. I’ve never had the 
>> opportunity to select any parts of a bike before. This is so new I wondered 
>> if I made a mistake and should cancel but I came across this group and 
>> found your pics and got excited that this could be a real good thing. 
>> I will sleep better tonight knowing there are 2 sets of braze-ons fir 
>> water bottles. 
>> More questions to follow.
>> Thanks for connecting. 
>> Kate from NJ
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 19:42, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> Kate! A new #RivSister? Color me delighted! 
>>
>>
>> You are going to LOVE your new Platy. Love. You can take it off on trails 
>> or ride it on the road. You can haul things around with you, commute, run 
>> errands, pedal aimlessly - it’s good for it all. I have a Clem, too, and 
>> while it is very multidimensional, it is not as fast. The Platy turns so 
>> easily and just feels perfect for me. It has the comfort of long chainstays 
>> but is not as long as the Clem - it truly does not feel like a long bike to 
>> me. The Platy is quick and light and I swear it will be even more so in 
>> that gorgeous green. I really am so happy for you. You will show us your 
>> bike and report back, won’t you?
>>
>> Braze-ons - YES! There are two water bottle mounts and I am picturing 
>> them below. Mine have some other stuff blocking a great view, but they are 
>> there. 
>>
>> Did I miss anything? Ask all the questions you want. I’m so happy to 
>> share.
>> #RivSisters,
>> Leah
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 4:02 PM, 'upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> HI Leah,
>> I really want to know how your new Platy rides.  I'm in line for a lovely 
>> green one and have never ridden a mixte.  I have an old road bike and an 
>> old trail bike.  I ride anywhere from an hour to a week of riding 40 miles 
>> a day.  I'm hoping the Platy will cover all my bases and I can unload my 
>> old bikes which I do not love. 
>> Can you confirm that there are braze-ons for 2 water bottles?  You sure 
>> do look happy with your bike.  Cheers
>> Kate 
>> On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 9:34:51 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> There is no cure for mixte-itis. The only way to be rid of it for sure 
>>> is to ask your Appaloosa 

Re: [RBW] Mixte vs Diamond Frame

[Roberta]

Welcome new  #RivSister Kate  I"m in Philadelphia and drive to Morris 
County every month.  Where are you located?

My story is this:  I rode my high school bike for 15 years or so until it 
was stolen.  I then got a Specialized hybrid, which I liked a lot but never 
loved.  After 25 years, I wanted something more comfortable so I could keep 
doing my weekend rides of perhaps 7 miles.  WELL... I tested a Riv Joe 
Appaloosa and then gladly handed over my money.  It was more money than I 
spent on all my bikes, repairs, tires, etc., in my entire life into this 
one bike.  And, I can say after 3 1/2 years, it was worth it!  Best 
investment ever!  (BTW, I"m not a bikey person, I just wanted a nice bike 
to ride.)

Oh, the JOY it brings me and the lack of neck and shoulder pain!  It is SO  
pleasurable to ride.  Now, instead of riding 7 miles two days a week,  on 
the weekends, I ride as many days as I can.  My "short" ride is 12 miles.   
  Oh, the feeling of getting on a quality bike.  I ride more!  I ride 
longer!  I ride happier!

I love my diamond framed Joe A, but I'm selling it to get a Platy (I've 
ordered a Mermaid blue from a Riv dealer) mixte.   The green one is 
gorgeous and their paint jobs look even better in person.  I"m looking 
forward to jumping off and not being "worried."  Also  there is a "freeing" 
feeling when looking down and the top tube isn't so close--more open real 
estate.

Riv will fix you up with a nice bike with quality parts (quality doesn't 
always mean expensive).  If you're near Philly, Keystone Bikes is not a Riv 
dealer, but they are a Riv-loving group, with two of the owners owning 
Rivs.Any other quality bike should near you should do.

Please ask lots of questions, read lots of threads and welcome to the 
group.  You might also look for a thread by Melanie recently (past four 
weeks???) where she asked about "why a mixte."   

Welcome!  You're in for a real treat!

Roberta

On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 7:57:13 PM UTC-5 upyou...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

> Oh hello new sister I will post pics. I just spoke with Will last 
> evening and secured myself the green. I’m so nervous and worried since I’ve 
> never ridden a Riv nor have I ever ridden a mixer ha ha. I’ve never had the 
> opportunity to select any parts of a bike before. This is so new I wondered 
> if I made a mistake and should cancel but I came across this group and 
> found your pics and got excited that this could be a real good thing. 
> I will sleep better tonight knowing there are 2 sets of braze-ons fir 
> water bottles. 
> More questions to follow.
> Thanks for connecting. 
> Kate from NJ
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 24, 2021, at 19:42, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> Kate! A new #RivSister? Color me delighted! 
>
>
> You are going to LOVE your new Platy. Love. You can take it off on trails 
> or ride it on the road. You can haul things around with you, commute, run 
> errands, pedal aimlessly - it’s good for it all. I have a Clem, too, and 
> while it is very multidimensional, it is not as fast. The Platy turns so 
> easily and just feels perfect for me. It has the comfort of long chainstays 
> but is not as long as the Clem - it truly does not feel like a long bike to 
> me. The Platy is quick and light and I swear it will be even more so in 
> that gorgeous green. I really am so happy for you. You will show us your 
> bike and report back, won’t you?
>
> Braze-ons - YES! There are two water bottle mounts and I am picturing them 
> below. Mine have some other stuff blocking a great view, but they are 
> there. 
>
> Did I miss anything? Ask all the questions you want. I’m so happy to share.
> #RivSisters,
> Leah
>
> 
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 24, 2021, at 4:02 PM, 'upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> HI Leah,
> I really want to know how your new Platy rides.  I'm in line for a lovely 
> green one and have never ridden a mixte.  I have an old road bike and an 
> old trail bike.  I ride anywhere from an hour to a week of riding 40 miles 
> a day.  I'm hoping the Platy will cover all my bases and I can unload my 
> old bikes which I do not love. 
> Can you confirm that there are braze-ons for 2 water bottles?  You sure do 
> look happy with your bike.  Cheers
> Kate 
> On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 9:34:51 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> There is no cure for mixte-itis. The only way to be rid of it for sure is 
>> to ask your Appaloosa to scoot over and  allow a Platy to move into your 
>> garage. Once that is done, the next step in your treatment process is to 
>> message your #RivSisters and start planning your build and dreaming about 
>> finery.
>>
>> There is no other way. 
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Melanie Yolles  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Thanks for everyone's thoughts on mixtes. So there is no difference in 
>> the ride per se, just some perceived advantages 

Re: [RBW] Mixte vs Diamond Frame

[Joe Bernard]

Hi Kate, welcome to the Riv Show ‍♂️

I think you'll love that gorgeous Platypus, it's the business! You can't go 
wrong with most of Riv's suggestions for parts, but the indexing/friction 
shifter conundrum may come up and I don't know what you're using on your 
road and trail bikes (and you may already know what you want and my advice 
is moot). Friction front is great, but Riv is also a big propronent of 
friction rear, as are many of its riders. I am not that person, I need 
clicky shifts for the rear derailleur. My recently-purchased-used Riv Susie 
came with friction rear and I just replaced it with this clicky-thing..I'll 
have a friction thumbshifter for the front and this index for the rear, 
this is a setup Riv offers. 

https://www.rivbike.com/products/kljs-gl46sgg

Joe Bernard

On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 4:57:13 PM UTC-8 upyou...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

> Oh hello new sister I will post pics. I just spoke with Will last 
> evening and secured myself the green. I’m so nervous and worried since I’ve 
> never ridden a Riv nor have I ever ridden a mixer ha ha. I’ve never had the 
> opportunity to select any parts of a bike before. This is so new I wondered 
> if I made a mistake and should cancel but I came across this group and 
> found your pics and got excited that this could be a real good thing. 
> I will sleep better tonight knowing there are 2 sets of braze-ons fir 
> water bottles. 
> More questions to follow.
> Thanks for connecting. 
> Kate from NJ
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 24, 2021, at 19:42, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> Kate! A new #RivSister? Color me delighted! 
>
>
> You are going to LOVE your new Platy. Love. You can take it off on trails 
> or ride it on the road. You can haul things around with you, commute, run 
> errands, pedal aimlessly - it’s good for it all. I have a Clem, too, and 
> while it is very multidimensional, it is not as fast. The Platy turns so 
> easily and just feels perfect for me. It has the comfort of long chainstays 
> but is not as long as the Clem - it truly does not feel like a long bike to 
> me. The Platy is quick and light and I swear it will be even more so in 
> that gorgeous green. I really am so happy for you. You will show us your 
> bike and report back, won’t you?
>
> Braze-ons - YES! There are two water bottle mounts and I am picturing them 
> below. Mine have some other stuff blocking a great view, but they are 
> there. 
>
> Did I miss anything? Ask all the questions you want. I’m so happy to share.
> #RivSisters,
> Leah
>
> 
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 24, 2021, at 4:02 PM, 'upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> HI Leah,
> I really want to know how your new Platy rides.  I'm in line for a lovely 
> green one and have never ridden a mixte.  I have an old road bike and an 
> old trail bike.  I ride anywhere from an hour to a week of riding 40 miles 
> a day.  I'm hoping the Platy will cover all my bases and I can unload my 
> old bikes which I do not love. 
> Can you confirm that there are braze-ons for 2 water bottles?  You sure do 
> look happy with your bike.  Cheers
> Kate 
> On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 9:34:51 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> There is no cure for mixte-itis. The only way to be rid of it for sure is 
>> to ask your Appaloosa to scoot over and  allow a Platy to move into your 
>> garage. Once that is done, the next step in your treatment process is to 
>> message your #RivSisters and start planning your build and dreaming about 
>> finery.
>>
>> There is no other way. 
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Melanie Yolles  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Thanks for everyone's thoughts on mixtes. So there is no difference in 
>> the ride per se, just some perceived advantages (aesthetics, ability to hop 
>> on/off without fear of hitting the top tube, ability to wear a sundress, 
>> LOL!).  There are definitely times I wished that my Appaloosa had a lower 
>> top tube. So now I'm trying to fight off a case of BBDD-induced Platypus 
>> fever. Is there a vaccine?
>>
>> Melanie
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 8:47 AM Melanie  wrote:
>>
>>> All this discussion of mixtes on the list has made me curious. I’ve 
>>> never ridden a mixte. Other than mounting/dismounting, do owners of both 
>>> types of bikes experience any real differences between riding a mixte and 
>>> riding a diamond frame?
>>>
>>> Mixte-curious Melanie 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Mixte vs Diamond Frame

[Leah Peterson]

#RivSister Kate, 

I knew less than nothing when I got my first Rivendell - I didn’t even know you 
could tilt your saddle or raise your handlebars. In fact, in my Facebook 
memories a memory popped up with me and my first Riv, a Betty Foy mixte, after 
it had come out of the bike shop. I had apparently been riding it around on 
bald tires and a cracked rear wheel and never noticed. So, believe me when I 
tell you: You are doing just fine, and you are a great candidate for a lovely 
Rivendell mixte. You will adore the ease of mounting it, and dismounting is a 
cinch, too. Riv is really patient with us newcomers and you can trust them to 
help you choose the right parts! I recommend the Bosco bars, though.  

Yes, keep the questions coming and if you are on Instagram there are lots of 
Platy pics on my account, which is the same name as my name on this forum.
So happy you’re here!
Leah


Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 24, 2021, at 4:57 PM, 'Kate Gilson' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh hello new sister I will post pics. I just spoke with Will last 
> evening and secured myself the green. I’m so nervous and worried since I’ve 
> never ridden a Riv nor have I ever ridden a mixer ha ha. I’ve never had the 
> opportunity to select any parts of a bike before. This is so new I wondered 
> if I made a mistake and should cancel but I came across this group and found 
> your pics and got excited that this could be a real good thing. 
> I will sleep better tonight knowing there are 2 sets of braze-ons fir water 
> bottles. 
> More questions to follow.
> Thanks for connecting. 
> Kate from NJ
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 19:42, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>> 
>> Kate! A new #RivSister? Color me delighted! 
>> 
>> You are going to LOVE your new Platy. Love. You can take it off on trails or 
>> ride it on the road. You can haul things around with you, commute, run 
>> errands, pedal aimlessly - it’s good for it all. I have a Clem, too, and 
>> while it is very multidimensional, it is not as fast. The Platy turns so 
>> easily and just feels perfect for me. It has the comfort of long chainstays 
>> but is not as long as the Clem - it truly does not feel like a long bike to 
>> me. The Platy is quick and light and I swear it will be even more so in that 
>> gorgeous green. I really am so happy for you. You will show us your bike and 
>> report back, won’t you?
>> 
>> Braze-ons - YES! There are two water bottle mounts and I am picturing them 
>> below. Mine have some other stuff blocking a great view, but they are there. 
>> 
>> Did I miss anything? Ask all the questions you want. I’m so happy to share.
>> #RivSisters,
>> Leah
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
 On Feb 24, 2021, at 4:02 PM, 'upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch 
  wrote:
 
>>> HI Leah,
>>> I really want to know how your new Platy rides.  I'm in line for a lovely 
>>> green one and have never ridden a mixte.  I have an old road bike and an 
>>> old trail bike.  I ride anywhere from an hour to a week of riding 40 miles 
>>> a day.  I'm hoping the Platy will cover all my bases and I can unload my 
>>> old bikes which I do not love. 
>>> Can you confirm that there are braze-ons for 2 water bottles?  You sure do 
>>> look happy with your bike.  Cheers
>>> Kate 
 On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 9:34:51 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:
 There is no cure for mixte-itis. The only way to be rid of it for sure is 
 to ask your Appaloosa to scoot over and  allow a Platy to move into your 
 garage. Once that is done, the next step in your treatment process is to 
 message your #RivSisters and start planning your build and dreaming about 
 finery.
 
 There is no other way. 
 Leah
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
>> On Jan 28, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Melanie Yolles  wrote:
>> 
> 
 
> Thanks for everyone's thoughts on mixtes. So there is no difference in 
> the ride per se, just some perceived advantages (aesthetics, ability to 
> hop on/off without fear of hitting the top tube, ability to wear a 
> sundress, LOL!).  There are definitely times I wished that my Appaloosa 
> had a lower top tube. So now I'm trying to fight off a case of 
> BBDD-induced Platypus fever. Is there a vaccine?
> 
> Melanie
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 8:47 AM Melanie  wrote:
>> All this discussion of mixtes on the list has made me curious. I’ve 
>> never ridden a mixte. Other than mounting/dismounting, do owners of both 
>> types of bikes experience any real differences between riding a mixte 
>> and riding a diamond frame?
>> 
>> Mixte-curious Melanie 
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Re: [RBW] Mixte vs Diamond Frame

['Kate Gilson' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Oh hello new sister I will post pics. I just spoke with Will last evening 
and secured myself the green. I’m so nervous and worried since I’ve never 
ridden a Riv nor have I ever ridden a mixer ha ha. I’ve never had the 
opportunity to select any parts of a bike before. This is so new I wondered if 
I made a mistake and should cancel but I came across this group and found your 
pics and got excited that this could be a real good thing. 
I will sleep better tonight knowing there are 2 sets of braze-ons fir water 
bottles. 
More questions to follow.
Thanks for connecting. 
Kate from NJ

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 24, 2021, at 19:42, Leah Peterson  wrote:
> 
> Kate! A new #RivSister? Color me delighted! 
> 
> You are going to LOVE your new Platy. Love. You can take it off on trails or 
> ride it on the road. You can haul things around with you, commute, run 
> errands, pedal aimlessly - it’s good for it all. I have a Clem, too, and 
> while it is very multidimensional, it is not as fast. The Platy turns so 
> easily and just feels perfect for me. It has the comfort of long chainstays 
> but is not as long as the Clem - it truly does not feel like a long bike to 
> me. The Platy is quick and light and I swear it will be even more so in that 
> gorgeous green. I really am so happy for you. You will show us your bike and 
> report back, won’t you?
> 
> Braze-ons - YES! There are two water bottle mounts and I am picturing them 
> below. Mine have some other stuff blocking a great view, but they are there. 
> 
> Did I miss anything? Ask all the questions you want. I’m so happy to share.
> #RivSisters,
> Leah
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 4:02 PM, 'upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>> HI Leah,
>> I really want to know how your new Platy rides.  I'm in line for a lovely 
>> green one and have never ridden a mixte.  I have an old road bike and an old 
>> trail bike.  I ride anywhere from an hour to a week of riding 40 miles a 
>> day.  I'm hoping the Platy will cover all my bases and I can unload my old 
>> bikes which I do not love. 
>> Can you confirm that there are braze-ons for 2 water bottles?  You sure do 
>> look happy with your bike.  Cheers
>> Kate 
>>> On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 9:34:51 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>> There is no cure for mixte-itis. The only way to be rid of it for sure is 
>>> to ask your Appaloosa to scoot over and  allow a Platy to move into your 
>>> garage. Once that is done, the next step in your treatment process is to 
>>> message your #RivSisters and start planning your build and dreaming about 
>>> finery.
>>> 
>>> There is no other way. 
>>> Leah
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
> On Jan 28, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Melanie Yolles  wrote:
> 
 
>>> 
 Thanks for everyone's thoughts on mixtes. So there is no difference in the 
 ride per se, just some perceived advantages (aesthetics, ability to hop 
 on/off without fear of hitting the top tube, ability to wear a sundress, 
 LOL!).  There are definitely times I wished that my Appaloosa had a lower 
 top tube. So now I'm trying to fight off a case of BBDD-induced Platypus 
 fever. Is there a vaccine?
 
 Melanie
 
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 8:47 AM Melanie  wrote:
> All this discussion of mixtes on the list has made me curious. I’ve never 
> ridden a mixte. Other than mounting/dismounting, do owners of both types 
> of bikes experience any real differences between riding a mixte and 
> riding a diamond frame?
> 
> Mixte-curious Melanie 
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Re: [RBW] Mixte vs Diamond Frame

[Joe Bernard]

The Pro Shop guys (I'm sure I have the name wrong) routed your taillight 
wire through an eyelet mounted at a cage braze-on. That's pretty sweet! 


On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 4:42:43 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

> Kate! A new #RivSister? Color me delighted! 
>
> You are going to LOVE your new Platy. Love. You can take it off on trails 
> or ride it on the road. You can haul things around with you, commute, run 
> errands, pedal aimlessly - it’s good for it all. I have a Clem, too, and 
> while it is very multidimensional, it is not as fast. The Platy turns so 
> easily and just feels perfect for me. It has the comfort of long chainstays 
> but is not as long as the Clem - it truly does not feel like a long bike to 
> me. The Platy is quick and light and I swear it will be even more so in 
> that gorgeous green. I really am so happy for you. You will show us your 
> bike and report back, won’t you?
>
> Braze-ons - YES! There are two water bottle mounts and I am picturing them 
> below. Mine have some other stuff blocking a great view, but they are 
> there. 
>
> Did I miss anything? Ask all the questions you want. I’m so happy to share.
> #RivSisters,
> Leah
>
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> On Feb 24, 2021, at 4:02 PM, 'upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> HI Leah,
>
> I really want to know how your new Platy rides.  I'm in line for a lovely 
> green one and have never ridden a mixte.  I have an old road bike and an 
> old trail bike.  I ride anywhere from an hour to a week of riding 40 miles 
> a day.  I'm hoping the Platy will cover all my bases and I can unload my 
> old bikes which I do not love. 
> Can you confirm that there are braze-ons for 2 water bottles?  You sure do 
> look happy with your bike.  Cheers
> Kate 
> On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 9:34:51 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> There is no cure for mixte-itis. The only way to be rid of it for sure is 
>> to ask your Appaloosa to scoot over and  allow a Platy to move into your 
>> garage. Once that is done, the next step in your treatment process is to 
>> message your #RivSisters and start planning your build and dreaming about 
>> finery.
>>
>> There is no other way. 
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Melanie Yolles  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Thanks for everyone's thoughts on mixtes. So there is no difference in 
>> the ride per se, just some perceived advantages (aesthetics, ability to hop 
>> on/off without fear of hitting the top tube, ability to wear a sundress, 
>> LOL!).  There are definitely times I wished that my Appaloosa had a lower 
>> top tube. So now I'm trying to fight off a case of BBDD-induced Platypus 
>> fever. Is there a vaccine?
>>
>> Melanie
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 8:47 AM Melanie  wrote:
>>
>>> All this discussion of mixtes on the list has made me curious. I’ve 
>>> never ridden a mixte. Other than mounting/dismounting, do owners of both 
>>> types of bikes experience any real differences between riding a mixte and 
>>> riding a diamond frame?
>>>
>>> Mixte-curious Melanie 
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Re: [RBW] Mixte vs Diamond Frame

['upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch]

HI Leah,
I really want to know how your new Platy rides.  I'm in line for a lovely 
green one and have never ridden a mixte.  I have an old road bike and an 
old trail bike.  I ride anywhere from an hour to a week of riding 40 miles 
a day.  I'm hoping the Platy will cover all my bases and I can unload my 
old bikes which I do not love. 
Can you confirm that there are braze-ons for 2 water bottles?  You sure do 
look happy with your bike.  Cheers
Kate 
On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 9:34:51 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> There is no cure for mixte-itis. The only way to be rid of it for sure is 
> to ask your Appaloosa to scoot over and  allow a Platy to move into your 
> garage. Once that is done, the next step in your treatment process is to 
> message your #RivSisters and start planning your build and dreaming about 
> finery.
>
> There is no other way. 
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 28, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Melanie Yolles  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Thanks for everyone's thoughts on mixtes. So there is no difference in the 
> ride per se, just some perceived advantages (aesthetics, ability to hop 
> on/off without fear of hitting the top tube, ability to wear a sundress, 
> LOL!).  There are definitely times I wished that my Appaloosa had a lower 
> top tube. So now I'm trying to fight off a case of BBDD-induced Platypus 
> fever. Is there a vaccine?
>
> Melanie
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 8:47 AM Melanie  wrote:
>
>> All this discussion of mixtes on the list has made me curious. I’ve never 
>> ridden a mixte. Other than mounting/dismounting, do owners of both types of 
>> bikes experience any real differences between riding a mixte and riding a 
>> diamond frame?
>>
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Re: [RBW] Mixte vs Diamond Frame

[J Imler]

My mixte-itis remedy was a 59 Clem L.  I had a bad case. I’m glad that’s 
behind me.

On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 6:28:43 AM UTC-8 Melanie wrote:

> Thanks for everyone's thoughts on mixtes. So there is no difference in the 
> ride per se, just some perceived advantages (aesthetics, ability to hop 
> on/off without fear of hitting the top tube, ability to wear a sundress, 
> LOL!).  There are definitely times I wished that my Appaloosa had a lower 
> top tube. So now I'm trying to fight off a case of BBDD-induced Platypus 
> fever. Is there a vaccine?
>
> Melanie
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 8:47 AM Melanie  wrote:
>
>> All this discussion of mixtes on the list has made me curious. I’ve never 
>> ridden a mixte. Other than mounting/dismounting, do owners of both types of 
>> bikes experience any real differences between riding a mixte and riding a 
>> diamond frame?
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Re: [RBW] Mixte vs Diamond Frame

[Leslie Tierstein]

Glad to hear it. A friend has a mixte and it had bottle mounts. I guess because 
my mixte had a non-standard tube it didn’t. It was an older Austro Daimler. 
I’ll see if I can find a picture - just lent the bike to a friend. 

> On Jan 28, 2021, at 5:38 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>  wrote:
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> Leslie - the good news is that after you mentioned the bottle mounts I went 
> and checked my frame - there are two sets of mounts for water bottles on the 
> Platypus! 殺 Rivendell mixtes >All other mixtes. 
> 
>> On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 1:24:50 PM UTC-8 Leslie Tierstein wrote:
>> The only difference I found is that, since the mixte doesn't have a 
>> traditional down tube, it didn't have a down tube braze-on for a water 
>> bottle cage. How it rides depends on other design characteristics. Also, 
>> there's no top tube, so no pressing your thighs against the top tube when 
>> you go downhill.  But I have that same issue with my folding bike. 
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 9:01:13 AM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:
>>> I had a Cheviot for a brief spell. I found it a surprisingly zippy feeling 
>>> bike, which I attributed to some nice flex in the frame. But, a mixte 
>>> really is a trip thru design for me, so I didn’t see any advantage for 
>>> mounting or dismounting.
>>> 
>>> Eric
>>> 
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 All this discussion of mixtes on the list has made me curious. I’ve never 
 ridden a mixte. Other than mounting/dismounting, do owners of both types 
 of bikes experience any real differences between riding a mixte and riding 
 a diamond frame?
 
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Re: [RBW] Mixte vs Diamond Frame

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Leslie - the good news is that after you mentioned the bottle mounts I went 
and checked my frame - there are two sets of mounts for water bottles on 
the Platypus! 殺 Rivendell mixtes >All other mixtes. 

On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 1:24:50 PM UTC-8 Leslie Tierstein wrote:

> The only difference I found is that, since the mixte doesn't have a 
> traditional down tube, it didn't have a down tube braze-on for a water 
> bottle cage. How it rides depends on other design characteristics. Also, 
> there's no top tube, so no pressing your thighs against the top tube when 
> you go downhill.  But I have that same issue with my folding bike. 
>
> On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 9:01:13 AM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> I had a Cheviot for a brief spell. I found it a surprisingly zippy 
>> feeling bike, which I attributed to some nice flex in the frame. But, a 
>> mixte really is a trip thru design for me, so I didn’t see any advantage 
>> for mounting or dismounting.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 27, 2021, Melanie  wrote:
>>
>>> All this discussion of mixtes on the list has made me curious. I’ve 
>>> never ridden a mixte. Other than mounting/dismounting, do owners of both 
>>> types of bikes experience any real differences between riding a mixte and 
>>> riding a diamond frame?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Mixte vs Diamond Frame

[Leslie Tierstein]

The only difference I found is that, since the mixte doesn't have a 
traditional down tube, it didn't have a down tube braze-on for a water 
bottle cage. How it rides depends on other design characteristics. Also, 
there's no top tube, so no pressing your thighs against the top tube when 
you go downhill.  But I have that same issue with my folding bike. 

On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 9:01:13 AM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:

> I had a Cheviot for a brief spell. I found it a surprisingly zippy feeling 
> bike, which I attributed to some nice flex in the frame. But, a mixte 
> really is a trip thru design for me, so I didn’t see any advantage for 
> mounting or dismounting.
>
> Eric
>
> On Wednesday, January 27, 2021, Melanie  wrote:
>
>> All this discussion of mixtes on the list has made me curious. I’ve never 
>> ridden a mixte. Other than mounting/dismounting, do owners of both types of 
>> bikes experience any real differences between riding a mixte and riding a 
>> diamond frame?
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Re: [RBW] Mixte vs Diamond Frame

[Mark Roland]

 Melanie wrote: T*hanks for everyone's thoughts on mixtes. So there is no 
difference in the ride per se, just some perceived advantages (aesthetics, 
ability to hop on/off without fear of hitting the top tube, ability to wear 
a sundress, LOL!). *

True to an extent. But not all mixtes are created equal.  You will not find 
a road+ (aka country bike) mixte that uses cantilever or v-brakes, that 
takes such wide tires, that has a luxuriously long wheelbase, that has 
attachments for racks & fenders, that comes in sizes to fit many riders, 
that has lugs and beautiful paint (I want that Legnano Green!) outside of a 
Rivendell Platypus.  Bonus for outrageous head badge. If I had not acquired 
the full Hillibike lineup (including tandem) in the last year, I would be 
putting my money on a Platypus.  Mixte zenith. Zenithauras. Zenithaur.

On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 9:28:43 AM UTC-5 Melanie wrote:

> Thanks for everyone's thoughts on mixtes. So there is no difference in the 
> ride per se, just some perceived advantages (aesthetics, ability to hop 
> on/off without fear of hitting the top tube, ability to wear a sundress, 
> LOL!).  There are definitely times I wished that my Appaloosa had a lower 
> top tube. So now I'm trying to fight off a case of BBDD-induced Platypus 
> fever. Is there a vaccine?
>
> Melanie
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 8:47 AM Melanie  wrote:
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>> ridden a mixte. Other than mounting/dismounting, do owners of both types of 
>> bikes experience any real differences between riding a mixte and riding a 
>> diamond frame?
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Re: [RBW] Mixte vs Diamond Frame

[Leah Peterson]

There is no cure for mixte-itis. The only way to be rid of it for sure is to 
ask your Appaloosa to scoot over and  allow a Platy to move into your garage. 
Once that is done, the next step in your treatment process is to message your 
#RivSisters and start planning your build and dreaming about finery.

There is no other way. 
Leah

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> Thanks for everyone's thoughts on mixtes. So there is no difference in the 
> ride per se, just some perceived advantages (aesthetics, ability to hop 
> on/off without fear of hitting the top tube, ability to wear a sundress, 
> LOL!).  There are definitely times I wished that my Appaloosa had a lower top 
> tube. So now I'm trying to fight off a case of BBDD-induced Platypus fever. 
> Is there a vaccine?
> 
> Melanie
> 
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>> ridden a mixte. Other than mounting/dismounting, do owners of both types of 
>> bikes experience any real differences between riding a mixte and riding a 
>> diamond frame?
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Re: [RBW] Mixte vs Diamond Frame

[Melanie Yolles]

Thanks for everyone's thoughts on mixtes. So there is no difference in the
ride per se, just some perceived advantages (aesthetics, ability to hop
on/off without fear of hitting the top tube, ability to wear a sundress,
LOL!).  There are definitely times I wished that my Appaloosa had a lower
top tube. So now I'm trying to fight off a case of BBDD-induced Platypus
fever. Is there a vaccine?

Melanie

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> bikes experience any real differences between riding a mixte and riding a
> diamond frame?
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Re: [RBW] Mixte vs Diamond Frame

[Eric Daume]

I had a Cheviot for a brief spell. I found it a surprisingly zippy feeling
bike, which I attributed to some nice flex in the frame. But, a mixte
really is a trip thru design for me, so I didn’t see any advantage for
mounting or dismounting.

Eric

On Wednesday, January 27, 2021, Melanie  wrote:

> All this discussion of mixtes on the list has made me curious. I’ve never
> ridden a mixte. Other than mounting/dismounting, do owners of both types of
> bikes experience any real differences between riding a mixte and riding a
> diamond frame?
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> Mixte-curious Melanie
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