Re: [RBW] More Clem on the Blug
On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 6:34:45 PM UTC-6, BSWP wrote: Can someone explain the top rear lug? It combines functions of joining top and seat tubes, and clamp for seat post, but also provides sockets for seat stays? Is that why the seat stays on the small and middle models are bent, so they cleanly fit into the top lug? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 9:23:05 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I presume the seat stay sockets let it get built faster? I'd assumed that the seat stay sockets were primarily to gain rear tire clearance. If you look at the centerfold photo in the last catalog, where it was illustrated, you can see that the inside edge of the sockets sit a good 1/4 to 1/2 outboard of the seat tube diameter. Compared to a pair of typical, brazed spoon ends, it sure seems to widen things up and yield more space.I suppose they could have achieved basically the same thing by shaping the stays and curving them outward, but they clearly had notions about bending them in a *different* direction.I too would bet that they save some fabrication time... but then I recall where they were mentioned in this post: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/46520755775/long-shen-trip This just made the idea sound like a bad business decision, so I wonder if that gain in efficiency alone would have been enough to make it worthwhile: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] More Clem on the Blug
I can't see the pictures from where I'm at, but yeah, if they can gain a full 1/2 inch or more, then that's a good reason! On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 11:23:43 PM UTC-7, iamkeith wrote: On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 6:34:45 PM UTC-6, BSWP wrote: Can someone explain the top rear lug? It combines functions of joining top and seat tubes, and clamp for seat post, but also provides sockets for seat stays? Is that why the seat stays on the small and middle models are bent, so they cleanly fit into the top lug? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 9:23:05 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I presume the seat stay sockets let it get built faster? I'd assumed that the seat stay sockets were primarily to gain rear tire clearance. If you look at the centerfold photo in the last catalog, where it was illustrated, you can see that the inside edge of the sockets sit a good 1/4 to 1/2 outboard of the seat tube diameter. Compared to a pair of typical, brazed spoon ends, it sure seems to widen things up and yield more space.I suppose they could have achieved basically the same thing by shaping the stays and curving them outward, but they clearly had notions about bending them in a *different* direction.I too would bet that they save some fabrication time... but then I recall where they were mentioned in this post: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/46520755775/long-shen-trip This just made the idea sound like a bad business decision, so I wonder if that gain in efficiency alone would have been enough to make it worthwhile: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] More Clem on the Blug
That tire clearance in the last shot is sexy as hell! On Oct 15, 2014 8:05 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: Lots of questions answered. This bike would meet my expectations. Dirt capability and easy ability to take a front derailleur should you want to add one. It's going to be awesome! On Oct 14, 2014, at 7:50 AM, Jim Bronson wrote: I clamp mine on the top tube or seat tube every time, never a problem and never a scratch. I am careful about it though. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:25 AM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I've only ever clamped a seat post, never a tube. I've only had a work stand for a few years, though. I may have seen a shop clamp a tube once or twice... In the eighties. You know what sucks? Balancing the bike with your HEAD while you try to remove the bottom bracket. I put the bike in the stand to change a tire, now. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] More Clem on the Blug
Better clearance than my 2001 Atlantis! Ain't progress great! On Oct 15, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Goshen Peter wrote: That tire clearance in the last shot is sexy as hell! On Oct 15, 2014 8:05 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: Lots of questions answered. This bike would meet my expectations. Dirt capability and easy ability to take a front derailleur should you want to add one. It's going to be awesome! On Oct 14, 2014, at 7:50 AM, Jim Bronson wrote: I clamp mine on the top tube or seat tube every time, never a problem and never a scratch. I am careful about it though. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:25 AM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I've only ever clamped a seat post, never a tube. I've only had a work stand for a few years, though. I may have seen a shop clamp a tube once or twice... In the eighties. You know what sucks? Balancing the bike with your HEAD while you try to remove the bottom bracket. I put the bike in the stand to change a tire, now. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] More Clem on the Blug
I wonder why they had to go with the oddball seat tube size? On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 8:16 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: Better clearance than my 2001 Atlantis! Ain't progress great! On Oct 15, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Goshen Peter wrote: That tire clearance in the last shot is sexy as hell! On Oct 15, 2014 8:05 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: Lots of questions answered. This bike would meet my expectations. Dirt capability and easy ability to take a front derailleur should you want to add one. It's going to be awesome! On Oct 14, 2014, at 7:50 AM, Jim Bronson wrote: I clamp mine on the top tube or seat tube every time, never a problem and never a scratch. I am careful about it though. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:25 AM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I've only ever clamped a seat post, never a tube. I've only had a work stand for a few years, though. I may have seen a shop clamp a tube once or twice... In the eighties. You know what sucks? Balancing the bike with your HEAD while you try to remove the bottom bracket. I put the bike in the stand to change a tire, now. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] More Clem on the Blug
Can someone explain the top rear lug? It combines functions of joining top and seat tubes, and clamp for seat post, but also provides sockets for seat stays? Is that why the seat stays on the small and middle models are bent, so they cleanly fit into the top lug? I think the new frame has nice lines, but I'm not liking the aesthetic of curved seat stays. That's just my own thing, I do hope RBW sells all they can make. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] More Clem on the Blug
Exciting! I hope this is a super-seller for them! I like all three of those colors. Especially the bile green. Hmmm, bile... Fork crown looks GREAT and curve on the blades is nice. And wow, that tire clearance... I absolutely love how it can take a fat tire! Strange about the seat tube size. Wonder if that has something to do with the seat lug? I presume the seat stay sockets let it get built faster? Lack of head tube lugs are a bummer, especially as those are the ones most visible. So far I prefer 430 stays to 450, so imagine even longer wouldn't work that great for me. I really like sitting on top of the tire when climbing. Around town or on roads doesn't really matter much. On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 5:34 PM, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone explain the top rear lug? It combines functions of joining top and seat tubes, and clamp for seat post, but also provides sockets for seat stays? Is that why the seat stays on the small and middle models are bent, so they cleanly fit into the top lug? I think the new frame has nice lines, but I'm not liking the aesthetic of curved seat stays. That's just my own thing, I do hope RBW sells all they can make. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
