Re: [RBW] Re: Calling Ron Mc for handlebar comparison photo

2017-11-27 Thread Alan Lavine 
Any chance we could see a photo?

> On Nov 27, 2017, at 12:52 PM, Lee Legrand  wrote:
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> http://store.somafab.com/sysibar.html 
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> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:31 PM, 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch 
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> Alan,
> 
> I have had a bunch of back and wrist surgeries so I am in a similar 
> situation. I am also a weirdo that is ulnar positive, where my ulna is longer 
> than the radius. I have tried every kind of bar looking for comfort and pain 
> relief.  My solution is swept dropped bars, mounted high. I found I need the 
> bottom at the same height as the seat. The lower position is not too low to 
> use as my default position and is where I normally ride, while the hoods and 
> tops offer a 'sit upright and take a break' position. Being able to move my 
> hands around helps prevent the worst of hand numbness and pain. As far as 
> 'flat' bars, I would highly recommend the Sycip Singles Bar. For me on my 
> Atlantis, it is the perfect flat bar. They are wide, have a nice sweep, are 
> absorbent, and reasonably priced. I have tried the Albatross, Moustache, 
> Albastache, and some Ti swept bars, and the Sycip won. 
> 
> Clayton (Bendite)
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Re: [RBW] Re: Calling Ron Mc for handlebar comparison photo

2017-11-27 Thread Lee Legrand 
http://store.somafab.com/sysibar.html

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:31 PM, 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Alan,
>
> I have had a bunch of back and wrist surgeries so I am in a similar
> situation. I am also a weirdo that is ulnar positive, where my ulna is
> longer than the radius. I have tried every kind of bar looking for comfort
> and pain relief.  My solution is swept dropped bars, mounted high. I found
> I need the bottom at the same height as the seat. The lower position is not
> too low to use as my default position and is where I normally ride, while
> the hoods and tops offer a 'sit upright and take a break' position. Being
> able to move my hands around helps prevent the worst of hand numbness and
> pain. As far as 'flat' bars, I would highly recommend the Sycip Singles
> Bar. For me on my Atlantis, it is the perfect flat bar. They are wide, have
> a nice sweep, are absorbent, and reasonably priced. I have tried the
> Albatross, Moustache, Albastache, and some Ti swept bars, and the Sycip
> won.
>
> Clayton (Bendite)
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Re: [RBW] Re: Calling Ron Mc for handlebar comparison photo

2017-11-26 Thread Lee Legrand 
Hi Irreguleur,

He may have problems with swept back bars.  Here is a hypothesis.  Cycling
is one of those modern activities that anatomically we are not built to do
but we can do it but doing something that we are not built to do has risk.
Risk being we develop health issues and possibly deformities.  For example,
we are not built to be sitting in a chair for 8 hours a day typing at a
desk that long.  Consequences of that is the we develop meta carpel
syndrome which is repeated stress syndrome and we see this happening in all
types of activities like runners who develop knee and hip issues due to
warn ligaments.  Cycling has the same problem in which we can develop weak
bones which is a form of osteoporosis and I have seen cyclist with hump
backs from being bent over on the drops from many years of cycling.  I
think some of those issue can be resolved if strengthening is part of the
regime and activities like cycling is not taken to extreme and balance with
stretching and strength training.  I do not know if Alan has deformities
that may be contributing to his back pain while cycling and swept back may
not be the solution either since a more vertical position may increase or
decrease stress on his back. Strengthening may not be a solution either
which is why I think he should get a fit or do some research on how to be
on a bicycle and see if he can get his body more in line with that and
experiment.

On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Irreguleur  wrote:

> Let’s not throw swept back bars into the same category of flats. Very
> different.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Calling Ron Mc for handlebar comparison photo

2017-11-26 Thread Irreguleur 
Let’s not throw swept back bars into the same category of flats. Very different.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Calling Ron Mc for handlebar comparison photo

2017-11-26 Thread Lee Legrand 
Hi Alan,

I have the issue with too much pressure on my hands while riding which I
think is related to my fit being not stretched out enough although from a
structural, it would seem that more pressure could possibly be put on the
hands if stretched out even further.  I think the issue is that we need
strong mid-sections and possibly learn to balance the upper body with
structurally strong mid section.  Have you thought about exercising the mid
section or getting a fit done?  This may help with the back.

Regards,

On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Steven Sweedler  wrote:

> Alan, it certainly seems Riv has moved mostly to flat bars, I tried a set
> of North Road (typical older 3 speed bars) on a commuter and didn’t like
> them,I never felt very secure on descents, still much prefer drops. I have
> 48 noodles on  my bikes, I’m 66 and not especially flexible, bars and
> saddle are level. Steve
> Plymouth, New Hampshire
>
> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 7:33 AM alan lavine  wrote:
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>> Thanks for the info, Evan.  I was hoping to see that photo because they
>> all have slightly different shapes, even though similar.
>>
>> Curious about how many others are slowly moving away from drop bars, as I
>> am.  For me, its definitely an aging/arthritis/flexibilty issue.  But I
>> find that too upright makes my back hurt, as the vertical forces are
>> transmitted straight up and down the spine.  Finding that Goldilocks spot
>> is a challenge...been through many cockpits last few years!
>>
>> Alan
>> NYC
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 9:16:01 PM UTC-5, Doug H. wrote:
>>>
>>> I just replaced drop bars on my Trek 520 with Rivendell’s Albastache and
>>> a Nitto Dirt Drop Stem. It feels like a new bike. Upright but with several
>>> hand positions.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Calling Ron Mc for handlebar comparison photo

2017-11-26 Thread Steven Sweedler 
Alan, it certainly seems Riv has moved mostly to flat bars, I tried a set
of North Road (typical older 3 speed bars) on a commuter and didn’t like
them,I never felt very secure on descents, still much prefer drops. I have
48 noodles on  my bikes, I’m 66 and not especially flexible, bars and
saddle are level. Steve
Plymouth, New Hampshire

On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 7:33 AM alan lavine  wrote:

> Thanks for the info, Evan.  I was hoping to see that photo because they
> all have slightly different shapes, even though similar.
>
> Curious about how many others are slowly moving away from drop bars, as I
> am.  For me, its definitely an aging/arthritis/flexibilty issue.  But I
> find that too upright makes my back hurt, as the vertical forces are
> transmitted straight up and down the spine.  Finding that Goldilocks spot
> is a challenge...been through many cockpits last few years!
>
> Alan
> NYC
>
>
> On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 9:16:01 PM UTC-5, Doug H. wrote:
>>
>> I just replaced drop bars on my Trek 520 with Rivendell’s Albastache and
>> a Nitto Dirt Drop Stem. It feels like a new bike. Upright but with several
>> hand positions.
>
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