Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Atlantis?

2014-03-10 Thread Bruce Herbitter
I think it's "B" Patrick...

On Monday, March 10, 2014, Bertin753  wrote:

> For the record: Others will have their own opinions, but I shift a home
> brew 9 speed cassette -non-aligned ramps- with Silver bar end shifters and
> I don't have a problem. Perhaps I am more deft than others, or perhaps I
> have lower standards.
>
> Patrick Moore
> iPhone
>
> On Mar 10, 2014, at 12:58 PM, Chris Lampe 2 
> >
> wrote:
>
> Jim,
>
> Is this specific to Silver shifters or is it something that is relatively
> common with a mix of friction and 9-speed cassettes?   My bike has a
> 9-speed cassette and those cheap thumb shifters that RBW sells and
> sometimes I get frequent ghost shifts, even under a very easy pedaling load.
>
>
> On Sunday, April 1, 2012 3:03:20 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
> wrote:
>
>> I'd tend to look at the silver shifters as the culprit, especially if
>> you're running a 9sp cassette. There's enough "slop" between clicks in the
>> ratchet system in those shifters that even if the shifter is tight enough,
>> derailleur/chain placement will be imprecise in some gears. In that case, a
>> tiny amount of frame-flex-induced cable pull may tip it into an adjacent
>> gear. This would be less likely with 7/8sp cassettes.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Atlantis?

2014-03-10 Thread Hugh Smitham
Peter,

I'd figure for the price of a custom, the Bombadil would be a starting
point. Since I've never had a custom built I'm speculating but it seems
they would help design one with your specific desires in mind or they might
discuss why an idea may or may not be feasible. Just my 2 cents.

~Hugh

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On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Peter Morgano wrote:

> I love my bombadil but I don't see the point of buying one new nowadays if
> it's the same price as a custom. I know they are built to order but for
> that price I would want specific things that my bombadil doest have. Don't
> flame me here but if I had a custom like the bombadil it would be a true 58
> with a level TT but still with 650b, and clearance for 60s. Just one man's
> small opinion.
> On Mar 10, 2014 7:25 PM, "hsmitham"  wrote:
>
>> Leslie,
>>
>> The Bombadil was a frame and fork listed on Riv's site as a FF or full
>> build, now it's  a custom frame set with IIRC stouter tube's. It's not
>> cheap though but sounds like what you'd be looking for. I'd give Riv a
>> call. I think Grant at this time is over seas so he might not be chiming in
>> on this one. But Keven, Will, Dave and all the others at Riv will gladly
>> help you out
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> On Sunday, April 1, 2012 3:53:16 PM UTC-7, Leslie wrote:
>>>
>>> Bombadil?
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Atlantis?

2014-03-10 Thread Peter Morgano
I love my bombadil but I don't see the point of buying one new nowadays if
it's the same price as a custom. I know they are built to order but for
that price I would want specific things that my bombadil doest have. Don't
flame me here but if I had a custom like the bombadil it would be a true 58
with a level TT but still with 650b, and clearance for 60s. Just one man's
small opinion.
On Mar 10, 2014 7:25 PM, "hsmitham"  wrote:

> Leslie,
>
> The Bombadil was a frame and fork listed on Riv's site as a FF or full
> build, now it's  a custom frame set with IIRC stouter tube's. It's not
> cheap though but sounds like what you'd be looking for. I'd give Riv a
> call. I think Grant at this time is over seas so he might not be chiming in
> on this one. But Keven, Will, Dave and all the others at Riv will gladly
> help you out
>
> ~Hugh
>
> On Sunday, April 1, 2012 3:53:16 PM UTC-7, Leslie wrote:
>>
>> Bombadil?
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Atlantis?

2014-03-10 Thread Christopher Murray
A while back (ten-ish years maybe?) the Rivendell Custom order form had an 
option that said something along the lines of "like an Atlantis but fancier". I 
got the impression that a fancy Atlantis- inspired Custom was pretty common 
from the early literature and site.  I am sure the people at Riv can point you 
in the right direction and tell you what has been done in the past. 

Cheers!
Chris

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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Atlantis?

2014-03-10 Thread Tim Gavin
I friction shifted 9 speeds with Silver bar-ends, with no problem.  (11-32
cassette, Microshift rear der).  I don't pay attention to the ratchet
clicks, just move the shifter gently until the desired cog is engaged.

I've since retro-fitted to 7 speeds, but not because of shift quality.  I
went back to my Riv's original ('97) Phil FW hubs and rebuilt them with
Synergy 650b rims.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Atlantis?

2014-03-10 Thread Bertin753
For the record: Others will have their own opinions, but I shift a home brew 9 
speed cassette -non-aligned ramps- with Silver bar end shifters and I don't 
have a problem. Perhaps I am more deft than others, or perhaps I have lower 
standards.

Patrick Moore
iPhone

> On Mar 10, 2014, at 12:58 PM, Chris Lampe 2  wrote:
> 
> Jim,
>  
> Is this specific to Silver shifters or is it something that is relatively 
> common with a mix of friction and 9-speed cassettes?   My bike has a 9-speed 
> cassette and those cheap thumb shifters that RBW sells and sometimes I get 
> frequent ghost shifts, even under a very easy pedaling load.
>  
> 
>> On Sunday, April 1, 2012 3:03:20 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
>> wrote:
>> I'd tend to look at the silver shifters as the culprit, especially if you're 
>> running a 9sp cassette. There's enough "slop" between clicks in the ratchet 
>> system in those shifters that even if the shifter is tight enough, 
>> derailleur/chain placement will be imprecise in some gears. In that case, a 
>> tiny amount of frame-flex-induced cable pull may tip it into an adjacent 
>> gear. This would be less likely with 7/8sp cassettes.
> 
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