Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

[Patrick Moore]

Rick Risemberg of Bicycle Fixations said a couple of years ago that he had
well over 10K miles on his pair of PB fenders (road fixed gear, LA streets)
with absolutely no problems. Comparing the old -- and quite narrow -- SKS's
I just put on the Ram with the new PB 45 mm fenders on the errand Riv, I
must say that the PBs are much less flexible (that's a good thing).


On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:11 AM, clayton  wrote:

> I have gone through 2 pairs of the SKS, which both broke from fatigue
> (assuming) and switched to Planet Bikes polycarbonate fenders. They are now
> 6 or 7 years old, with no cracks and they have been abused. "Happy with
> "plexiglass" fenders".
> Clay
>
> On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 1:55:38 PM UTC-7, SMP wrote:
>>
>> I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot seem
>> to find it here.
>>
>> I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the front
>> fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't allow me
>> to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent out of
>> shape.
>>
>> I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating
>> between SKS Chromoplastic (26" P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26" 50mm).
>>  I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the
>> practicality, tone down the "showyness," and reduce the chance of theft
>> (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not
>> sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just
>> seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike.
>>
>> Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another
>> consideration.  I would have an LBS install this, but if something happens
>> in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop into
>> place.
>>
>> Your thoughts?
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

[Steven Frederick]

Well, my Bridgestone is a 26" wheeled bike and they're fine on there.  As I
recall, SKS used to market the P-50s as both 700c and 26" compatible.  (I
know from experience that they work well on 650b wheels, too)  I think the
P-55s are a fine choice for your situation as well, especially with the
additions of a flexible mudflap.

Best of luck!  Steve


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:37 AM, SMP  wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> I believe the P50s are meant for 700c bikes, but I sure would love to see
> them make a 50mm wide fender for 26" wheels.  I went ahead and ordered the
> P55.
>
>
> http://www.sks-germany.com/?l=en&a=product&r=mudguards&i=6409800121&CHROMOPLASTICS
>
> I think I will be needing a massive mudflap after switching to these
> relatively shorter fenders to have equivalent splash coverage, so thanks
> for that photo.  Sounds like a fun DIY project.
>
> On Thursday, August 8, 2013 3:29:28 PM UTC+2, stevef wrote:
>>
>> SKS P-50's with a flexible mudflap would be a good choice for your
>> situation--I have that setup on my B-stone XO-1 shod with similar-sized
>> tires and it's been quite durable.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**40738390@N08/5469462121/
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:24 AM, SMP  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, all for your considerations.  I see many of you are recommending
>>> the SKS longboard model, but I've already tried 
>>> these
>>> It is very difficult to fit a fender made for 700c wheels fit onto a 26"
>>> wheel, and it's 45mm width is probably also too narrow for my 26x1.5"
>>> tires.  I also had trouble with the length of the front longboard fender
>>> hitting the curb, and the fender popping out of the 'socket' (which, in
>>> retrospect, is preferred to the alternate option of bending an Al fender
>>> out of shape).  This is why, for SKS fenders, I am specifically, only
>>> considering the silver P55 of the "chromoplastic" model.
>>>
>>> The more I read your comments, the more I am inclined towards going for
>>> the SKS, just... the Gilles Berthoud's are so pretty!  If I go with the GB,
>>> it will be the 50mm "short" variety.  Not sure what short entails, but
>>> after having two sets of too-long fenders, I'm opting for short + mudflap
>>> if necessary.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 1:04:12 AM UTC+2, Christopher Chen wrote:

 I have the longboards on my Hilsen, with sheldon fender nuts, which
 rotate the fenders to make them even lower, and I have to say, the rubber
 flap might bend, but I go up and down curbs all the time. One tip--I lift
 up a bit on the handlebar before descending the curb, essentially "jumping"
 down, which gives the bike a chance to make some forward movement before
 falling.


 On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:59 PM, William  wrote:

> All the metal ones are pretty darn long.  SKS non-longboards might be
> your best bet to have the curb-hoppability you miss and the safety of a 
> QR,
> and your LBS will more likely be familiar with their installation.
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 1:55:38 PM UTC-7, SMP wrote:
>>
>> I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot
>> seem to find it here.
>>
>> I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the
>> front fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't
>> allow me to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent
>> out of shape.
>>
>> I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am
>> contemplating between SKS Chromoplastic (26" P55) and Gilles Berthoud
>> fenders (26" 50mm).  I am thinking the former would be a good option to
>> improve the practicality, tone down the "showyness," and reduce the 
>> chance
>> of theft (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world --
>> Zurich, not sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the
>> latter just seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike.
>>
>> Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another
>> consideration.  I would have an LBS install this, but if something 
>> happens
>> in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop 
>> into
>> place.
>>
>> Your thoughts?
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

[SMP]

Hi Steve,

I believe the P50s are meant for 700c bikes, but I sure would love to see 
them make a 50mm wide fender for 26" wheels.  I went ahead and ordered the 
P55.

http://www.sks-germany.com/?l=en&a=product&r=mudguards&i=6409800121&CHROMOPLASTICS

I think I will be needing a massive mudflap after switching to these 
relatively shorter fenders to have equivalent splash coverage, so thanks 
for that photo.  Sounds like a fun DIY project.

On Thursday, August 8, 2013 3:29:28 PM UTC+2, stevef wrote:
>
> SKS P-50's with a flexible mudflap would be a good choice for your 
> situation--I have that setup on my B-stone XO-1 shod with similar-sized 
> tires and it's been quite durable.  
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/5469462121/
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:24 AM, SMP >wrote:
>
>> Thanks, all for your considerations.  I see many of you are recommending 
>> the SKS longboard model, but I've already tried 
>> these
>>   
>> It is very difficult to fit a fender made for 700c wheels fit onto a 26" 
>> wheel, and it's 45mm width is probably also too narrow for my 26x1.5" 
>> tires.  I also had trouble with the length of the front longboard fender 
>> hitting the curb, and the fender popping out of the 'socket' (which, in 
>> retrospect, is preferred to the alternate option of bending an Al fender 
>> out of shape).  This is why, for SKS fenders, I am specifically, only 
>> considering the silver P55 of the "chromoplastic" model.
>>
>> The more I read your comments, the more I am inclined towards going for 
>> the SKS, just... the Gilles Berthoud's are so pretty!  If I go with the GB, 
>> it will be the 50mm "short" variety.  Not sure what short entails, but 
>> after having two sets of too-long fenders, I'm opting for short + mudflap 
>> if necessary.
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 1:04:12 AM UTC+2, Christopher Chen wrote:
>>>
>>> I have the longboards on my Hilsen, with sheldon fender nuts, which 
>>> rotate the fenders to make them even lower, and I have to say, the rubber 
>>> flap might bend, but I go up and down curbs all the time. One tip--I lift 
>>> up a bit on the handlebar before descending the curb, essentially "jumping" 
>>> down, which gives the bike a chance to make some forward movement before 
>>> falling.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:59 PM, William  wrote:
>>>
 All the metal ones are pretty darn long.  SKS non-longboards might be 
 your best bet to have the curb-hoppability you miss and the safety of a 
 QR, 
 and your LBS will more likely be familiar with their installation.  


 On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 1:55:38 PM UTC-7, SMP wrote:
>
> I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot 
> seem to find it here.
>
> I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the 
> front fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't 
> allow me to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent 
> out of shape.
>
> I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating 
> between SKS Chromoplastic (26" P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26" 
> 50mm). 
>  I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the 
> practicality, tone down the "showyness," and reduce the chance of theft 
> (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not 
> sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just 
> seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike.
>
> Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another 
> consideration.  I would have an LBS install this, but if something 
> happens 
> in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop 
> into 
> place.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

[SMP]

Hi Steve,

I believe the P50s are meant for 700c bikes, but I sure would love to see 
them make a 50mm wide fender for 26" wheels.  I went ahead and ordered the 
P55.

http://www.sks-germany.com/?l=en&a=product&r=mudguards&i=6409800121&CHROMOPLASTICS

I think I will be needing a massive mudflap after switching to these 
relatively shorter fenders to have equivalent splash coverage, so thanks 
for that photo.  Sounds like a fun DIY project.

On Thursday, August 8, 2013 3:29:28 PM UTC+2, stevef wrote:
>
> SKS P-50's with a flexible mudflap would be a good choice for your 
> situation--I have that setup on my B-stone XO-1 shod with similar-sized 
> tires and it's been quite durable.  
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/5469462121/
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:24 AM, SMP >wrote:
>
>> Thanks, all for your considerations.  I see many of you are recommending 
>> the SKS longboard model, but I've already tried 
>> these
>>   
>> It is very difficult to fit a fender made for 700c wheels fit onto a 26" 
>> wheel, and it's 45mm width is probably also too narrow for my 26x1.5" 
>> tires.  I also had trouble with the length of the front longboard fender 
>> hitting the curb, and the fender popping out of the 'socket' (which, in 
>> retrospect, is preferred to the alternate option of bending an Al fender 
>> out of shape).  This is why, for SKS fenders, I am specifically, only 
>> considering the silver P55 of the "chromoplastic" model.
>>
>> The more I read your comments, the more I am inclined towards going for 
>> the SKS, just... the Gilles Berthoud's are so pretty!  If I go with the GB, 
>> it will be the 50mm "short" variety.  Not sure what short entails, but 
>> after having two sets of too-long fenders, I'm opting for short + mudflap 
>> if necessary.
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 1:04:12 AM UTC+2, Christopher Chen wrote:
>>>
>>> I have the longboards on my Hilsen, with sheldon fender nuts, which 
>>> rotate the fenders to make them even lower, and I have to say, the rubber 
>>> flap might bend, but I go up and down curbs all the time. One tip--I lift 
>>> up a bit on the handlebar before descending the curb, essentially "jumping" 
>>> down, which gives the bike a chance to make some forward movement before 
>>> falling.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:59 PM, William  wrote:
>>>
 All the metal ones are pretty darn long.  SKS non-longboards might be 
 your best bet to have the curb-hoppability you miss and the safety of a 
 QR, 
 and your LBS will more likely be familiar with their installation.  


 On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 1:55:38 PM UTC-7, SMP wrote:
>
> I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot 
> seem to find it here.
>
> I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the 
> front fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't 
> allow me to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent 
> out of shape.
>
> I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating 
> between SKS Chromoplastic (26" P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26" 
> 50mm). 
>  I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the 
> practicality, tone down the "showyness," and reduce the chance of theft 
> (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not 
> sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just 
> seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike.
>
> Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another 
> consideration.  I would have an LBS install this, but if something 
> happens 
> in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop 
> into 
> place.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

[SMP]

Hi Steve,

I believe the P50s are meant for 700c bikes, but I sure would love to see 
them make a 50mm wide fender for 26" wheels.  I went ahead and ordered the 
P55.

http://www.sks-germany.com/?l=en&a=product&r=mudguards&i=6409800121&CHROMOPLASTICS

I think I will be needing a massive mudflap after switching to these 
relatively shorter fenders to have equivalent splash coverage, so thanks 
for that photo.  Sounds like a fun DIY project.

On Thursday, August 8, 2013 3:29:28 PM UTC+2, stevef wrote:
>
> SKS P-50's with a flexible mudflap would be a good choice for your 
> situation--I have that setup on my B-stone XO-1 shod with similar-sized 
> tires and it's been quite durable.  
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/5469462121/
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:24 AM, SMP >wrote:
>
>> Thanks, all for your considerations.  I see many of you are recommending 
>> the SKS longboard model, but I've already tried 
>> these
>>   
>> It is very difficult to fit a fender made for 700c wheels fit onto a 26" 
>> wheel, and it's 45mm width is probably also too narrow for my 26x1.5" 
>> tires.  I also had trouble with the length of the front longboard fender 
>> hitting the curb, and the fender popping out of the 'socket' (which, in 
>> retrospect, is preferred to the alternate option of bending an Al fender 
>> out of shape).  This is why, for SKS fenders, I am specifically, only 
>> considering the silver P55 of the "chromoplastic" model.
>>
>> The more I read your comments, the more I am inclined towards going for 
>> the SKS, just... the Gilles Berthoud's are so pretty!  If I go with the GB, 
>> it will be the 50mm "short" variety.  Not sure what short entails, but 
>> after having two sets of too-long fenders, I'm opting for short + mudflap 
>> if necessary.
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 1:04:12 AM UTC+2, Christopher Chen wrote:
>>>
>>> I have the longboards on my Hilsen, with sheldon fender nuts, which 
>>> rotate the fenders to make them even lower, and I have to say, the rubber 
>>> flap might bend, but I go up and down curbs all the time. One tip--I lift 
>>> up a bit on the handlebar before descending the curb, essentially "jumping" 
>>> down, which gives the bike a chance to make some forward movement before 
>>> falling.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:59 PM, William  wrote:
>>>
 All the metal ones are pretty darn long.  SKS non-longboards might be 
 your best bet to have the curb-hoppability you miss and the safety of a 
 QR, 
 and your LBS will more likely be familiar with their installation.  


 On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 1:55:38 PM UTC-7, SMP wrote:
>
> I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot 
> seem to find it here.
>
> I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the 
> front fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't 
> allow me to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent 
> out of shape.
>
> I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating 
> between SKS Chromoplastic (26" P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26" 
> 50mm). 
>  I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the 
> practicality, tone down the "showyness," and reduce the chance of theft 
> (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not 
> sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just 
> seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike.
>
> Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another 
> consideration.  I would have an LBS install this, but if something 
> happens 
> in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop 
> into 
> place.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

[Steven Frederick]

SKS P-50's with a flexible mudflap would be a good choice for your
situation--I have that setup on my B-stone XO-1 shod with similar-sized
tires and it's been quite durable.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/5469462121/

Steve


On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:24 AM, SMP  wrote:

> Thanks, all for your considerations.  I see many of you are recommending
> the SKS longboard model, but I've already tried 
> these
> It is very difficult to fit a fender made for 700c wheels fit onto a 26"
> wheel, and it's 45mm width is probably also too narrow for my 26x1.5"
> tires.  I also had trouble with the length of the front longboard fender
> hitting the curb, and the fender popping out of the 'socket' (which, in
> retrospect, is preferred to the alternate option of bending an Al fender
> out of shape).  This is why, for SKS fenders, I am specifically, only
> considering the silver P55 of the "chromoplastic" model.
>
> The more I read your comments, the more I am inclined towards going for
> the SKS, just... the Gilles Berthoud's are so pretty!  If I go with the GB,
> it will be the 50mm "short" variety.  Not sure what short entails, but
> after having two sets of too-long fenders, I'm opting for short + mudflap
> if necessary.
>
> On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 1:04:12 AM UTC+2, Christopher Chen wrote:
>>
>> I have the longboards on my Hilsen, with sheldon fender nuts, which
>> rotate the fenders to make them even lower, and I have to say, the rubber
>> flap might bend, but I go up and down curbs all the time. One tip--I lift
>> up a bit on the handlebar before descending the curb, essentially "jumping"
>> down, which gives the bike a chance to make some forward movement before
>> falling.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:59 PM, William  wrote:
>>
>>> All the metal ones are pretty darn long.  SKS non-longboards might be
>>> your best bet to have the curb-hoppability you miss and the safety of a QR,
>>> and your LBS will more likely be familiar with their installation.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 1:55:38 PM UTC-7, SMP wrote:

 I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot seem
 to find it here.

 I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the front
 fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't allow me
 to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent out of
 shape.

 I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating
 between SKS Chromoplastic (26" P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26" 50mm).
  I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the
 practicality, tone down the "showyness," and reduce the chance of theft
 (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not
 sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just
 seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike.

 Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another
 consideration.  I would have an LBS install this, but if something happens
 in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop into
 place.

 Your thoughts?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

[SMP]

Funny...

If it means I will ride it more and be less fearful of locking it, I think you 
and the bunch helped me make the right decisions :)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

[Christopher Chen]

Sounds reasonable.

After this and the thread about the wooden boxcrates vs. wald baskets, I
feel guilty for making your bike less "fancy" :)


On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:51 AM, SMP  wrote:

> Hi all, I decided to go with the P55 SKS silver chromoplastic fenders from
> Riv.  I believe it will make for a more practical bike in the long run.  In
> the meantime, I will have to store the Gilles Berthoud idea in the
> "someday, maybe" box until I am more mechanically inclined to manage metal
> fender benders.
>
> Thanks for your help in the decision process.
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 6:24:06 AM UTC+2, SMP wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, all for your considerations.  I see many of you are recommending
>> the SKS longboard model, but I've already tried 
>> these
>> It is very difficult to fit a fender made for 700c wheels fit onto a 26"
>> wheel, and it's 45mm width is probably also too narrow for my 26x1.5"
>> tires.  I also had trouble with the length of the front longboard fender
>> hitting the curb, and the fender popping out of the 'socket' (which, in
>> retrospect, is preferred to the alternate option of bending an Al fender
>> out of shape).  This is why, for SKS fenders, I am specifically, only
>> considering the silver P55 of the "chromoplastic" model.
>>
>> The more I read your comments, the more I am inclined towards going for
>> the SKS, just... the Gilles Berthoud's are so pretty!  If I go with the GB,
>> it will be the 50mm "short" variety.  Not sure what short entails, but
>> after having two sets of too-long fenders, I'm opting for short + mudflap
>> if necessary.
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 1:04:12 AM UTC+2, Christopher Chen wrote:
>>>
>>> I have the longboards on my Hilsen, with sheldon fender nuts, which
>>> rotate the fenders to make them even lower, and I have to say, the rubber
>>> flap might bend, but I go up and down curbs all the time. One tip--I lift
>>> up a bit on the handlebar before descending the curb, essentially "jumping"
>>> down, which gives the bike a chance to make some forward movement before
>>> falling.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:59 PM, William  wrote:
>>>
 All the metal ones are pretty darn long.  SKS non-longboards might be
 your best bet to have the curb-hoppability you miss and the safety of a QR,
 and your LBS will more likely be familiar with their installation.


 On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 1:55:38 PM UTC-7, SMP wrote:
>
> I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot
> seem to find it here.
>
> I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the
> front fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't
> allow me to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent
> out of shape.
>
> I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating
> between SKS Chromoplastic (26" P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26" 
> 50mm).
>  I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the
> practicality, tone down the "showyness," and reduce the chance of theft
> (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not
> sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just
> seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike.
>
> Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another
> consideration.  I would have an LBS install this, but if something happens
> in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop 
> into
> place.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

[SMP]

Hi all, I decided to go with the P55 SKS silver chromoplastic fenders from 
Riv.  I believe it will make for a more practical bike in the long run.  In 
the meantime, I will have to store the Gilles Berthoud idea in the 
"someday, maybe" box until I am more mechanically inclined to manage metal 
fender benders.

Thanks for your help in the decision process.

On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 6:24:06 AM UTC+2, SMP wrote:
>
> Thanks, all for your considerations.  I see many of you are recommending 
> the SKS longboard model, but I've already tried 
> these
>   
> It is very difficult to fit a fender made for 700c wheels fit onto a 26" 
> wheel, and it's 45mm width is probably also too narrow for my 26x1.5" 
> tires.  I also had trouble with the length of the front longboard fender 
> hitting the curb, and the fender popping out of the 'socket' (which, in 
> retrospect, is preferred to the alternate option of bending an Al fender 
> out of shape).  This is why, for SKS fenders, I am specifically, only 
> considering the silver P55 of the "chromoplastic" model.
>
> The more I read your comments, the more I am inclined towards going for 
> the SKS, just... the Gilles Berthoud's are so pretty!  If I go with the GB, 
> it will be the 50mm "short" variety.  Not sure what short entails, but 
> after having two sets of too-long fenders, I'm opting for short + mudflap 
> if necessary.
>
> On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 1:04:12 AM UTC+2, Christopher Chen wrote:
>>
>> I have the longboards on my Hilsen, with sheldon fender nuts, which 
>> rotate the fenders to make them even lower, and I have to say, the rubber 
>> flap might bend, but I go up and down curbs all the time. One tip--I lift 
>> up a bit on the handlebar before descending the curb, essentially "jumping" 
>> down, which gives the bike a chance to make some forward movement before 
>> falling.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:59 PM, William  wrote:
>>
>>> All the metal ones are pretty darn long.  SKS non-longboards might be 
>>> your best bet to have the curb-hoppability you miss and the safety of a QR, 
>>> and your LBS will more likely be familiar with their installation.  
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 1:55:38 PM UTC-7, SMP wrote:

 I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot seem 
 to find it here.

 I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the front 
 fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't allow me 
 to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent out of 
 shape.

 I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating 
 between SKS Chromoplastic (26" P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26" 
 50mm). 
  I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the 
 practicality, tone down the "showyness," and reduce the chance of theft 
 (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not 
 sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just 
 seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike.

 Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another 
 consideration.  I would have an LBS install this, but if something happens 
 in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop 
 into 
 place.

 Your thoughts?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

[SMP]

Hmm... that is a good idea regarding redrilling the holes on the Honjos, 
and rotating them further forward!  I was thinking about maybe cutting the 
fender, but never even considered this option that seems much cleaner.

On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 2:19:44 AM UTC+2, William wrote:
>
> I agree with Christopher.  The other thing I found with a long front 
> fender is I can't put the bike on my Yakima Roof Rack.  With the front 
> wheel off the fender hits the car-roof before the fork tips reach.  So with 
> my longboard bike, I just don't plan on putting it on the roof.  For my 
> Honjo bike, I redrilled holes with the fender rotated far enough forward 
> that it clears, and I'll take up the extra space with a home-made flap to 
> save my feet from spray
>
> On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 5:12:57 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:
>>
>> If you roll right off of a high enough curb, you stand the risk of the 
>> fenders striking the top of the curb as you descend, especially at *low* 
>> speeds. I've had it happen. The trick is to get out in front of the curb 
>> enough to avoid whacking the fender. So either you speed up a bit, or you 
>> "jump" off.
>>
>> (for me anyway)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>>
>>> I'm a little perplexed by your post.  Is your fender hitting the curb? 
>>>  My experience is that properly installed Al fenders are more stable than 
>>> plastic.  That said steel fenders are more stable than Al.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:55:38 PM UTC-4, SMP wrote:
>>>
 I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot seem 
 to find it here.

 I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the front 
 fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't allow me 
 to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent out of 
 shape.

 I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating 
 between SKS Chromoplastic (26" P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26" 
 50mm). 
  I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the 
 practicality, tone down the "showyness," and reduce the chance of theft 
 (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not 
 sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just 
 seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike.

 Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another 
 consideration.  I would have an LBS install this, but if something happens 
 in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop 
 into 
 place.

 Your thoughts?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

[SMP]

Thanks, all for your considerations.  I see many of you are recommending 
the SKS longboard model, but I've already tried 
these 
 
It is very difficult to fit a fender made for 700c wheels fit onto a 26" 
wheel, and it's 45mm width is probably also too narrow for my 26x1.5" 
tires.  I also had trouble with the length of the front longboard fender 
hitting the curb, and the fender popping out of the 'socket' (which, in 
retrospect, is preferred to the alternate option of bending an Al fender 
out of shape).  This is why, for SKS fenders, I am specifically, only 
considering the silver P55 of the "chromoplastic" model.

The more I read your comments, the more I am inclined towards going for the 
SKS, just... the Gilles Berthoud's are so pretty!  If I go with the GB, it 
will be the 50mm "short" variety.  Not sure what short entails, but after 
having two sets of too-long fenders, I'm opting for short + mudflap if 
necessary.

On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 1:04:12 AM UTC+2, Christopher Chen wrote:
>
> I have the longboards on my Hilsen, with sheldon fender nuts, which rotate 
> the fenders to make them even lower, and I have to say, the rubber flap 
> might bend, but I go up and down curbs all the time. One tip--I lift up a 
> bit on the handlebar before descending the curb, essentially "jumping" 
> down, which gives the bike a chance to make some forward movement before 
> falling.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:59 PM, William  >wrote:
>
>> All the metal ones are pretty darn long.  SKS non-longboards might be 
>> your best bet to have the curb-hoppability you miss and the safety of a QR, 
>> and your LBS will more likely be familiar with their installation.  
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 1:55:38 PM UTC-7, SMP wrote:
>>>
>>> I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot seem 
>>> to find it here.
>>>
>>> I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the front 
>>> fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't allow me 
>>> to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent out of 
>>> shape.
>>>
>>> I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating 
>>> between SKS Chromoplastic (26" P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26" 50mm). 
>>>  I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the 
>>> practicality, tone down the "showyness," and reduce the chance of theft 
>>> (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not 
>>> sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just 
>>> seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike.
>>>
>>> Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another 
>>> consideration.  I would have an LBS install this, but if something happens 
>>> in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop into 
>>> place.
>>>
>>> Your thoughts?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

[Kelly]

The SKS longboards have the quick disconnects and move right out of way nicely. 
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

[Jimmy Hutch]

I love fancy bike stuff.  I also do lots of dumb shit (going down stairs, 
jamming my bike onto my roof rack, wheelies, etc.)  The SKS chromoplastic (or 
whatever) mudguards on my AHH always seem to bounce back. I'm quite certain 
aluminum or steel mudguards would be completely destroyed by now.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 5:19:44 PM UTC-7, William wrote:

> [...] I redrilled holes with the fender rotated far enough forward that it 
> clears, and I'll take up the extra space with a home-made flap to save my 
> feet from spray


This trick will also mitigate the fender hitting the curb even if you ride 
down the curb slowly. 



*Home-made flap made from polyurethane-coated nylon fabric from 
McMaster-Carr, item 8809K31 at less than $5 for a 61" x 12" x 0.022" thick 
piece. It's thin enough to cut with a sharp pair of scissors but 
substantial enough to block spray. Cut it to within an inch off the ground 
as it will flap a bit in the wind.*

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

[William]

I agree with Christopher.  The other thing I found with a long front fender 
is I can't put the bike on my Yakima Roof Rack.  With the front wheel off 
the fender hits the car-roof before the fork tips reach.  So with my 
longboard bike, I just don't plan on putting it on the roof.  For my Honjo 
bike, I redrilled holes with the fender rotated far enough forward that it 
clears, and I'll take up the extra space with a home-made flap to save my 
feet from spray

On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 5:12:57 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:
>
> If you roll right off of a high enough curb, you stand the risk of the 
> fenders striking the top of the curb as you descend, especially at *low* 
> speeds. I've had it happen. The trick is to get out in front of the curb 
> enough to avoid whacking the fender. So either you speed up a bit, or you 
> "jump" off.
>
> (for me anyway)
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Michael Hechmer 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> I'm a little perplexed by your post.  Is your fender hitting the curb? 
>>  My experience is that properly installed Al fenders are more stable than 
>> plastic.  That said steel fenders are more stable than Al.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:55:38 PM UTC-4, SMP wrote:
>>
>>> I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot seem 
>>> to find it here.
>>>
>>> I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the front 
>>> fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't allow me 
>>> to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent out of 
>>> shape.
>>>
>>> I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating 
>>> between SKS Chromoplastic (26" P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26" 50mm). 
>>>  I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the 
>>> practicality, tone down the "showyness," and reduce the chance of theft 
>>> (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not 
>>> sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just 
>>> seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike.
>>>
>>> Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another 
>>> consideration.  I would have an LBS install this, but if something happens 
>>> in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop into 
>>> place.
>>>
>>> Your thoughts?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

[Christopher Chen]

If you roll right off of a high enough curb, you stand the risk of the
fenders striking the top of the curb as you descend, especially at *low*
speeds. I've had it happen. The trick is to get out in front of the curb
enough to avoid whacking the fender. So either you speed up a bit, or you
"jump" off.

(for me anyway)


On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Michael Hechmer  wrote:

> I'm a little perplexed by your post.  Is your fender hitting the curb?  My
> experience is that properly installed Al fenders are more stable than
> plastic.  That said steel fenders are more stable than Al.
>
> Michael
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:55:38 PM UTC-4, SMP wrote:
>
>> I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot seem
>> to find it here.
>>
>> I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the front
>> fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't allow me
>> to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent out of
>> shape.
>>
>> I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating
>> between SKS Chromoplastic (26" P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26" 50mm).
>>  I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the
>> practicality, tone down the "showyness," and reduce the chance of theft
>> (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not
>> sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just
>> seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike.
>>
>> Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another
>> consideration.  I would have an LBS install this, but if something happens
>> in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop into
>> place.
>>
>> Your thoughts?
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

[Christopher Chen]

I have the longboards on my Hilsen, with sheldon fender nuts, which rotate
the fenders to make them even lower, and I have to say, the rubber flap
might bend, but I go up and down curbs all the time. One tip--I lift up a
bit on the handlebar before descending the curb, essentially "jumping"
down, which gives the bike a chance to make some forward movement before
falling.


On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:59 PM, William  wrote:

> All the metal ones are pretty darn long.  SKS non-longboards might be your
> best bet to have the curb-hoppability you miss and the safety of a QR, and
> your LBS will more likely be familiar with their installation.
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 1:55:38 PM UTC-7, SMP wrote:
>>
>> I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot seem
>> to find it here.
>>
>> I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the front
>> fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't allow me
>> to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent out of
>> shape.
>>
>> I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating
>> between SKS Chromoplastic (26" P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26" 50mm).
>>  I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the
>> practicality, tone down the "showyness," and reduce the chance of theft
>> (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not
>> sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just
>> seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike.
>>
>> Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another
>> consideration.  I would have an LBS install this, but if something happens
>> in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop into
>> place.
>>
>> Your thoughts?
>>
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