Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Planet Bike strut-compatible QRs

[Steve Palincsar]

Clearly, the answer is not 42, it's "n + 1".


On 01/21/2017 01:34 PM, Jeff Lesperance wrote:
Patrick, I think there's a clear answer that has been right in front 
of us the entire time time for a new bike with mounts n's bosses 
n' stuff where you want 'em and need 'em!


I'm here to help, and enable.

-Jeff
Silver Spring, MD

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Patrick Moore > wrote:


Takashi: that's very kind of you, but the problem with mounting
near the dropout is that the caliper blocks rearward access to the
fender strut. I've used the PB tubular braces that put the
attachment point some 2.5" outward from the dropout, and even then
had to bend the stay to clear the caliper adjusting knob.

 I do appreciate the offer.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 2:45 AM, Takashi > wrote:

Viva in Japan makes QR-mounted eyelet, similar to Velo Orange
but smaller.
Front :
http://www.cb-asahi.co.jp/item/03/00/item3260153.html

Rear :
http://www.cb-asahi.co.jp/item/07/00/item3090157.html


I have pairs for both front and rear that I don't use, so I
can send them to you if you want.

Takashi


Jeff wrote:

Does something like this help at all for keeping the stay
QR mounted at the dropout:
Inline image 1
Spotted here:

http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-fender-stay-mount-for-eyeletless-frames-4mm-qr.html






On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 11:51 PM, Bill in Roswell GA
 wrote:

Patrick, just curious as to why not the Tubus mid-fork
mounts?

They do look a bit clunky, but work far better than
P-clamps according to whole sum of people I know using
them, which is 1. Still, being Tubus, you know it's
engineered to a T.

At about $25, the Tubus mounts are a lot less than
having braze-ons added ($100 for 2? Raw, no paint).
Think of bolt-on mounts as a temporary solution until
you can get mounts brazed-on. Paint it later or have
it blasted raw with a clear coat. There are always
options with a long time line!

Cheers,
Bill in Roswell, GA

On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 5:10:13 PM UTC-5,
Patrick Moore wrote:

Never mind. The placement of the disc caliper
behind the left fork leg makes these problematical.

Another question: I thought that someone brought
up on the list not too long ago a clamp-on fender
strut mount, better than a P clamp, and not
Tubus's clamp for lowriders. I looked through
Problems Solvers but could find nothing of the sort.

Is there such a thing? I realize now to my chagrin
that, when Chauncey brought the Matthews
frame/fork by a year ago for inspection before
final prep and powdercoat, I did not catch the
fender braze ons at dropout instead of
mid-fork-leg. I'd like to find some clamp-on
alternatives.

Thanks.

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Patrick Moore
 wrote:

Before I spend, does anyone have an unused
pair to donate? Will of course pay postage.

Money tight at the moment.

Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Planet Bike strut-compatible QRs

[Patrick Moore]

LOL. At least, a brand new fork.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Jeff Lesperance  wrote:

> Patrick, I think there's a clear answer that has been right in front of us
> the entire time time for a new bike with mounts n's bosses n' stuff
> where you want 'em and need 'em!
>
> I'm here to help, and enable.
>
> -Jeff
> Silver Spring, MD
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Planet Bike strut-compatible QRs

[Jeff Lesperance]

Patrick, I think there's a clear answer that has been right in front of us
the entire time time for a new bike with mounts n's bosses n' stuff
where you want 'em and need 'em!

I'm here to help, and enable.

-Jeff
Silver Spring, MD

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Takashi: that's very kind of you, but the problem with mounting near the
> dropout is that the caliper blocks rearward access to the fender strut.
> I've used the PB tubular braces that put the attachment point some 2.5"
> outward from the dropout, and even then had to bend the stay to clear the
> caliper adjusting knob.
>
>  I do appreciate the offer.
>
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 2:45 AM, Takashi  wrote:
>
>> Viva in Japan makes QR-mounted eyelet, similar to Velo Orange but smaller.
>> Front : http://www.cb-asahi.co.jp/item/03/00/item3260153.html
>> Rear : http://www.cb-asahi.co.jp/item/07/00/item3090157.html
>>
>> I have pairs for both front and rear that I don't use, so I can send them
>> to you if you want.
>>
>> Takashi
>>
>>
>> Jeff wrote:
>>>
>>> Does something like this help at all for keeping the stay QR mounted at
>>> the dropout:
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>> Spotted here: http://store.velo-orange.com/i
>>> ndex.php/vo-fender-stay-mount-for-eyeletless-frames-4mm-qr.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 11:51 PM, Bill in Roswell GA <
>>> roadsc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Patrick, just curious as to why not the Tubus mid-fork mounts?

 They do look a bit clunky, but work far better than P-clamps according
 to whole sum of people I know using them, which is 1. Still, being Tubus,
 you know it's engineered to a T.

 At about $25, the Tubus mounts are a lot less than having braze-ons
 added ($100 for 2? Raw, no paint). Think of bolt-on mounts as a temporary
 solution until you can get mounts brazed-on. Paint it later or have it
 blasted raw with a clear coat. There are always options with a long time
 line!

 Cheers,
 Bill in Roswell, GA

 On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 5:10:13 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Never mind. The placement of the disc caliper behind the left fork leg
> makes these problematical.
>
> Another question: I thought that someone brought up on the list not
> too long ago a clamp-on fender strut mount, better than a P clamp, and not
> Tubus's clamp for lowriders. I looked through Problems Solvers but could
> find nothing of the sort.
>
> Is there such a thing? I realize now to my chagrin that, when Chauncey
> brought the Matthews frame/fork by a year ago for inspection before final
> prep and powdercoat, I did not catch the fender braze ons at dropout
> instead of mid-fork-leg. I'd like to find some clamp-on alternatives.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> Before I spend, does anyone have an unused pair to donate? Will of
>> course pay postage.
>>
>> Money tight at the moment.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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>> Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique,  Vereinigte Staaten
>> 
>> 
>> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of
>> a circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, 
>> and
>> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>>
>> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while
>> the world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>>
>> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>>
>> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *
>> Aristotle
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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> 
> 
> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of
> a circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and
> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>
> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while
> the world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>
> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Planet Bike strut-compatible QRs

[Patrick Moore]

Takashi: that's very kind of you, but the problem with mounting near the
dropout is that the caliper blocks rearward access to the fender strut.
I've used the PB tubular braces that put the attachment point some 2.5"
outward from the dropout, and even then had to bend the stay to clear the
caliper adjusting knob.

 I do appreciate the offer.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 2:45 AM, Takashi  wrote:

> Viva in Japan makes QR-mounted eyelet, similar to Velo Orange but smaller.
> Front : http://www.cb-asahi.co.jp/item/03/00/item3260153.html
> Rear : http://www.cb-asahi.co.jp/item/07/00/item3090157.html
>
> I have pairs for both front and rear that I don't use, so I can send them
> to you if you want.
>
> Takashi
>
>
> Jeff wrote:
>>
>> Does something like this help at all for keeping the stay QR mounted at
>> the dropout:
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>> Spotted here: http://store.velo-orange.com/i
>> ndex.php/vo-fender-stay-mount-for-eyeletless-frames-4mm-qr.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 11:51 PM, Bill in Roswell GA > > wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick, just curious as to why not the Tubus mid-fork mounts?
>>>
>>> They do look a bit clunky, but work far better than P-clamps according
>>> to whole sum of people I know using them, which is 1. Still, being Tubus,
>>> you know it's engineered to a T.
>>>
>>> At about $25, the Tubus mounts are a lot less than having braze-ons
>>> added ($100 for 2? Raw, no paint). Think of bolt-on mounts as a temporary
>>> solution until you can get mounts brazed-on. Paint it later or have it
>>> blasted raw with a clear coat. There are always options with a long time
>>> line!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Bill in Roswell, GA
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 5:10:13 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Never mind. The placement of the disc caliper behind the left fork leg
 makes these problematical.

 Another question: I thought that someone brought up on the list not too
 long ago a clamp-on fender strut mount, better than a P clamp, and not
 Tubus's clamp for lowriders. I looked through Problems Solvers but could
 find nothing of the sort.

 Is there such a thing? I realize now to my chagrin that, when Chauncey
 brought the Matthews frame/fork by a year ago for inspection before final
 prep and powdercoat, I did not catch the fender braze ons at dropout
 instead of mid-fork-leg. I'd like to find some clamp-on alternatives.

 Thanks.

 On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Patrick Moore 
 wrote:

> Before I spend, does anyone have an unused pair to donate? Will of
> course pay postage.
>
> Money tight at the moment.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
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> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching.
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> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique,  Vereinigte Staaten
> 
> 
> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of
> a circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and
> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>
> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while
> the world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>
> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>
> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *
> Aristotle
>
>
>


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 circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and
 individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu

 *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while
 the world revolves.) *Carthusian motto

 *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart

 *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *
 Aristotle


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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Planet Bike strut-compatible QRs

[Ron Mc]

and from the same shop as Takashi posted, this Pletscher end-plate mount 
for disc brakes (I don't know how this fits, but I think that's what it's 
intended for)  \
http://www.cb-asahi.co.jp/item/56/11/item10011156.html

On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 3:45:14 AM UTC-6, Takashi wrote:
>
> Viva in Japan makes QR-mounted eyelet, similar to Velo Orange but smaller.
> Front : http://www.cb-asahi.co.jp/item/03/00/item3260153.html
> Rear : http://www.cb-asahi.co.jp/item/07/00/item3090157.html
>
> I have pairs for both front and rear that I don't use, so I can send them 
> to you if you want.
>
> Takashi
>
>
> Jeff wrote:
>>
>> Does something like this help at all for keeping the stay QR mounted at 
>> the dropout:
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>> Spotted here: 
>> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-fender-stay-mount-for-eyeletless-frames-4mm-qr.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 11:51 PM, Bill in Roswell GA > > wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick, just curious as to why not the Tubus mid-fork mounts? 
>>>
>>> They do look a bit clunky, but work far better than P-clamps according 
>>> to whole sum of people I know using them, which is 1. Still, being Tubus, 
>>> you know it's engineered to a T. 
>>>
>>> At about $25, the Tubus mounts are a lot less than having braze-ons 
>>> added ($100 for 2? Raw, no paint). Think of bolt-on mounts as a temporary 
>>> solution until you can get mounts brazed-on. Paint it later or have it 
>>> blasted raw with a clear coat. There are always options with a long time 
>>> line!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Bill in Roswell, GA 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 5:10:13 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Never mind. The placement of the disc caliper behind the left fork leg 
 makes these problematical.

 Another question: I thought that someone brought up on the list not too 
 long ago a clamp-on fender strut mount, better than a P clamp, and not 
 Tubus's clamp for lowriders. I looked through Problems Solvers but could 
 find nothing of the sort.

 Is there such a thing? I realize now to my chagrin that, when Chauncey 
 brought the Matthews frame/fork by a year ago for inspection before final 
 prep and powdercoat, I did not catch the fender braze ons at dropout 
 instead of mid-fork-leg. I'd like to find some clamp-on alternatives.

 Thanks.

 On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Patrick Moore  
 wrote:

> Before I spend, does anyone have an unused pair to donate? Will of 
> course pay postage.
>
> Money tight at the moment.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- 
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> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique,  Vereinigte Staaten
> *
> ***
> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of 
> a circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, 
> and 
> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>
> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while 
> the world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>
> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>
> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *
> Aristotle
>
>
>


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 *
 ***
 *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a 
 circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and 
 individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu

 *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while 
 the world revolves.) *Carthusian motto

 *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart

 *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *
 Aristotle


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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Planet Bike strut-compatible QRs

[Takashi]

Viva in Japan makes QR-mounted eyelet, similar to Velo Orange but smaller.
Front : http://www.cb-asahi.co.jp/item/03/00/item3260153.html
Rear : http://www.cb-asahi.co.jp/item/07/00/item3090157.html

I have pairs for both front and rear that I don't use, so I can send them 
to you if you want.

Takashi


Jeff wrote:
>
> Does something like this help at all for keeping the stay QR mounted at 
> the dropout:
> [image: Inline image 1]
> Spotted here: 
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-fender-stay-mount-for-eyeletless-frames-4mm-qr.html
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 11:51 PM, Bill in Roswell GA  > wrote:
>
>> Patrick, just curious as to why not the Tubus mid-fork mounts? 
>>
>> They do look a bit clunky, but work far better than P-clamps according to 
>> whole sum of people I know using them, which is 1. Still, being Tubus, you 
>> know it's engineered to a T. 
>>
>> At about $25, the Tubus mounts are a lot less than having braze-ons added 
>> ($100 for 2? Raw, no paint). Think of bolt-on mounts as a temporary 
>> solution until you can get mounts brazed-on. Paint it later or have it 
>> blasted raw with a clear coat. There are always options with a long time 
>> line!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bill in Roswell, GA 
>>
>> On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 5:10:13 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> Never mind. The placement of the disc caliper behind the left fork leg 
>>> makes these problematical.
>>>
>>> Another question: I thought that someone brought up on the list not too 
>>> long ago a clamp-on fender strut mount, better than a P clamp, and not 
>>> Tubus's clamp for lowriders. I looked through Problems Solvers but could 
>>> find nothing of the sort.
>>>
>>> Is there such a thing? I realize now to my chagrin that, when Chauncey 
>>> brought the Matthews frame/fork by a year ago for inspection before final 
>>> prep and powdercoat, I did not catch the fender braze ons at dropout 
>>> instead of mid-fork-leg. I'd like to find some clamp-on alternatives.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Patrick Moore  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Before I spend, does anyone have an unused pair to donate? Will of 
 course pay postage.

 Money tight at the moment.

 Thanks.

 -- 
 Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews.
 By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching.
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 Patrick Moore
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 *
 ***
 *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a 
 circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and 
 individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu

 *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while 
 the world revolves.) *Carthusian motto

 *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart

 *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *
 Aristotle



>>>
>>>
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>>> *
>>> ***
>>> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a 
>>> circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and 
>>> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>>>
>>> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the 
>>> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>>>
>>> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>>>
>>> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *
>>> Aristotle
>>>
>>>
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