Re: [RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

[Jacob Byard]

I haven’t Toscos yet. There’s probably 6-7 different bars floating around my stash. Now I’ll put the Toscos on my list. Reaming the seat tube had crossed my mind. We are talking about a tiny amount. A dropper post is my dream. As it stands I don’t think I’ll have the height to run a 90-100mm dropper. Some of the internal ones are in the 50-60mm range. I’ll cross that bridge once everything is put together and I have some miles on it. -Jacob Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 22, 2022, at 11:28 AM, Brian Turner  wrote:I too have the widest Toscos (with the 38.1 clamp dia) on my Gus. They’re super comfortable and give you lots of control for rough terrain. I feel like these bars were tailor made for Gus / Susie.On Nov 22, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Ryan Frahm  wrote:Oh, and just a note on bars, I swapped the Bosco for a 60cm Tosco and what a great swap it was. The front position didn’t work for me and the Bosco was just too high. Highly recommend the Tosco if you try some swept back bars! My first ride with them was 30 miles of pure comfort. On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 7:57:08 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:I have also seen (on here) that you can have the seat tube reamed to fit 27.2. I’d probably be okay with it on the Gus but wouldn’t likely chance it on my Susie with thinner tubes. On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 7:33:20 AM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:Scott, I have an extra Jones loop on hand. Thanks for the offer though! I put a Simworks Fun bar (I think that’s the name) on for the moment. I plan to try out a few different bars. Ryan,  I’ve got a really nice Simworks Nitto 27.2 post that I don’t have bike for. I think once I get the 26.8 post in and sized up I’ll sand a bit off the Nitto and use it. It’s got a cool finish so I don’t want to remove too much. Paul levers and Motolites are going on tonight. I pulled them off my Trucker. I’m using a Ritchey triple but a White Industry double would be nice. Gotta get some cash save up. Cheers! Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 22, 2022, at 10:00 AM, greenteadrinkers  wrote:Jacob - If you are interested I have a really clean Jones Loop I pulled off an Analog build that I'm interested in selling.Best,ScottOn Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 9:55:23 AM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:Exciting, I can’t wait to see it built up! I definitely double and probably triple checked on seatpost sizing. A 27.2 would have been really cool but I don’t find any need for my old titanium post on the Susie, it rides smoother than anything. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on the Gus! I have been feeling like I should have gone that way so I could load it up and never feel worried but I just love my quill stem! Will has assured me I don’t need to be worried at all with my 175lbs and a 30 or so camp load. I’m getting more comfortable feeling like she’s not fragile but…Just a note, AVT bike is having a site wide sale up to 25% off. Tough to beat on Paul or White industries parts!On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 5:00:57 AM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:The frame safely arrived yesterday. It’s huge. The color is beautiful. I would have picked orange had the choice been available but now I’m happy with mermaid. The fork is on and the bottom bracket is in. I had forgotten how easy 9 speed cassettes install. 12 speed is such a pain. Tonight I want to get on the brakes and size up the chain. I’m still waiting on both derailleurs, tires, valve stems and a seatpost. I mistakenly bought a 28.6mm post instead of a 26.8mm. Hopefully everything shows up soon or I’ll start pulling parts from other bikes to get this on the road. I can not believe how big it is. That steerer tube was so long but then the head tube swallowed it up. I can’t wait to ride it. -JacobSent from my iPhoneOn Nov 16, 2022, at 4:03 PM, Mackenzy Albright  wrote:I wish I had tried flat bars (or nitto wavies) on the romanceur before I sold it. I did appreciate it's slow speed maneuverability, especially while climbing. it may have been a good compromise to drop bars vs swept backs! Maybe it would have mitigated some of the front wheel lifting off bumps in really low gearing climbs. That being said I ran my romancer with 26" wheels and racing ralph 2.1's and felt like I was constantly getting pedal strike. 650 was better, but I felt it lost some of the spryness I loved so much. I am going to get a custom made based off the romancer with a few tweaks. It was a memorable bike and very much enjoyed my time with it. But agreed bikes are so much subjective! haha the clem does love a decent! I also feel like the clementine was quite a bit shorter than the JR. It's really a shame they didn't keep the original clementine on the roster, I think it's a really swell feeling bike. On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 8:20:18 PM UTC-8 Hoch in ut wrote:Apparently, this is all subjective, because I felt just the opposite!  The Clem was so long, much longer than what I’d been used to mountain biking for 30+ years. The 

Re: [RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

[Brian Turner]

I too have the widest Toscos (with the 38.1 clamp dia) on my Gus. They’re super comfortable and give you lots of control for rough terrain. I feel like these bars were tailor made for Gus / Susie.On Nov 22, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Ryan Frahm  wrote:Oh, and just a note on bars, I swapped the Bosco for a 60cm Tosco and what a great swap it was. The front position didn’t work for me and the Bosco was just too high. Highly recommend the Tosco if you try some swept back bars! My first ride with them was 30 miles of pure comfort. On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 7:57:08 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:I have also seen (on here) that you can have the seat tube reamed to fit 27.2. I’d probably be okay with it on the Gus but wouldn’t likely chance it on my Susie with thinner tubes. On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 7:33:20 AM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:Scott, I have an extra Jones loop on hand. Thanks for the offer though! I put a Simworks Fun bar (I think that’s the name) on for the moment. I plan to try out a few different bars. Ryan,  I’ve got a really nice Simworks Nitto 27.2 post that I don’t have bike for. I think once I get the 26.8 post in and sized up I’ll sand a bit off the Nitto and use it. It’s got a cool finish so I don’t want to remove too much. Paul levers and Motolites are going on tonight. I pulled them off my Trucker. I’m using a Ritchey triple but a White Industry double would be nice. Gotta get some cash save up. Cheers! Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 22, 2022, at 10:00 AM, greenteadrinkers  wrote:Jacob - If you are interested I have a really clean Jones Loop I pulled off an Analog build that I'm interested in selling.Best,ScottOn Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 9:55:23 AM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:Exciting, I can’t wait to see it built up! I definitely double and probably triple checked on seatpost sizing. A 27.2 would have been really cool but I don’t find any need for my old titanium post on the Susie, it rides smoother than anything. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on the Gus! I have been feeling like I should have gone that way so I could load it up and never feel worried but I just love my quill stem! Will has assured me I don’t need to be worried at all with my 175lbs and a 30 or so camp load. I’m getting more comfortable feeling like she’s not fragile but…Just a note, AVT bike is having a site wide sale up to 25% off. Tough to beat on Paul or White industries parts!On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 5:00:57 AM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:The frame safely arrived yesterday. It’s huge. The color is beautiful. I would have picked orange had the choice been available but now I’m happy with mermaid. The fork is on and the bottom bracket is in. I had forgotten how easy 9 speed cassettes install. 12 speed is such a pain. Tonight I want to get on the brakes and size up the chain. I’m still waiting on both derailleurs, tires, valve stems and a seatpost. I mistakenly bought a 28.6mm post instead of a 26.8mm. Hopefully everything shows up soon or I’ll start pulling parts from other bikes to get this on the road. I can not believe how big it is. That steerer tube was so long but then the head tube swallowed it up. I can’t wait to ride it. -JacobSent from my iPhoneOn Nov 16, 2022, at 4:03 PM, Mackenzy Albright  wrote:I wish I had tried flat bars (or nitto wavies) on the romanceur before I sold it. I did appreciate it's slow speed maneuverability, especially while climbing. it may have been a good compromise to drop bars vs swept backs! Maybe it would have mitigated some of the front wheel lifting off bumps in really low gearing climbs. That being said I ran my romancer with 26" wheels and racing ralph 2.1's and felt like I was constantly getting pedal strike. 650 was better, but I felt it lost some of the spryness I loved so much. I am going to get a custom made based off the romancer with a few tweaks. It was a memorable bike and very much enjoyed my time with it. But agreed bikes are so much subjective! haha the clem does love a decent! I also feel like the clementine was quite a bit shorter than the JR. It's really a shame they didn't keep the original clementine on the roster, I think it's a really swell feeling bike. On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 8:20:18 PM UTC-8 Hoch in ut wrote:Apparently, this is all subjective, because I felt just the opposite!  The Clem was so long, much longer than what I’d been used to mountain biking for 30+ years. The trails here are fairly chunky, and maneuvering around rocks and/or high-centering became issues. I thought I’d adapt, but never could. The Romeo (with flat bars) handled razor sharp and I could weave around and over all obstacles without the fear of pedal strikes or getting hung up. We’ve got some steep climbs here and I never had a problem with the front end wandering. I just felt “at home” with it in just about every aspect. One thing the Clem absolutely destroys the Romeo and other bikes is straight line 

Re: [RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

[Ryan Frahm]

Oh, and just a note on bars, I swapped the Bosco for a 60cm Tosco and what 
a great swap it was. The front position didn’t work for me and the Bosco 
was just too high. Highly recommend the Tosco if you try some swept back 
bars! My first ride with them was 30 miles of pure comfort. 

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 7:57:08 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:

> I have also seen (on here) that you can have the seat tube reamed to fit 
> 27.2. I’d probably be okay with it on the Gus but wouldn’t likely chance it 
> on my Susie with thinner tubes. 
>
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 7:33:20 AM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Scott, 
>> I have an extra Jones loop on hand. Thanks for the offer though! I put a 
>> Simworks Fun bar (I think that’s the name) on for the moment. I plan to try 
>> out a few different bars. 
>>
>> Ryan,  
>>
>> I’ve got a really nice Simworks Nitto 27.2 post that I don’t have bike 
>> for. I think once I get the 26.8 post in and sized up I’ll sand a bit off 
>> the Nitto and use it. It’s got a cool finish so I don’t want to remove too 
>> much. 
>>
>> Paul levers and Motolites are going on tonight. I pulled them off my 
>> Trucker. I’m using a Ritchey triple but a White Industry double would be 
>> nice. Gotta get some cash save up. 
>>
>> Cheers! 
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 22, 2022, at 10:00 AM, greenteadrinkers  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Jacob - If you are interested I have a really clean Jones Loop I pulled 
>> off an Analog build that I'm interested in selling.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Scott
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 9:55:23 AM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Exciting, I can’t wait to see it built up! I definitely double and 
>>> probably triple checked on seatpost sizing. A 27.2 would have been really 
>>> cool but I don’t find any need for my old titanium post on the Susie, it 
>>> rides smoother than anything. 
>>>
>>> Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on the Gus! I have been feeling like I 
>>> should have gone that way so I could load it up and never feel worried but 
>>> I just love my quill stem! Will has assured me I don’t need to be worried 
>>> at all with my 175lbs and a 30 or so camp load. I’m getting more 
>>> comfortable feeling like she’s not fragile but…
>>>
>>> Just a note, AVT bike is having a site wide sale up to 25% off. Tough to 
>>> beat on Paul or White industries parts!
>>> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 5:00:57 AM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 The frame safely arrived yesterday. It’s huge. The color is beautiful. 
 I would have picked orange had the choice been available but now I’m happy 
 with mermaid. 

 The fork is on and the bottom bracket is in. I had forgotten how easy 9 
 speed cassettes install. 12 speed is such a pain. 

 Tonight I want to get on the brakes and size up the chain. I’m still 
 waiting on both derailleurs, tires, valve stems and a seatpost. I 
 mistakenly bought a 28.6mm post instead of a 26.8mm. 

 Hopefully everything shows up soon or I’ll start pulling parts from 
 other bikes to get this on the road. 

 I can not believe how big it is. That steerer tube was so long but then 
 the head tube swallowed it up. I can’t wait to ride it. 

 -Jacob

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 16, 2022, at 4:03 PM, Mackenzy Albright  
 wrote:

 I wish I had tried flat bars (or nitto wavies) on the romanceur before 
 I sold it. I did appreciate it's slow speed maneuverability, especially 
 while climbing. it may have been a good compromise to drop bars vs swept 
 backs! Maybe it would have mitigated some of the front wheel lifting off 
 bumps in really low gearing climbs. That being said I ran my romancer with 
 26" wheels and racing ralph 2.1's and felt like I was constantly getting 
 pedal strike. 650 was better, but I felt it lost some of the spryness I 
 loved so much. I am going to get a custom made based off the romancer with 
 a few tweaks. It was a memorable bike and very much enjoyed my time with 
 it. But agreed bikes are so much subjective! haha 


 the clem does love a decent! I also feel like the clementine was quite 
 a bit shorter than the JR. It's really a shame they didn't keep the 
 original clementine on the roster, I think it's a really swell feeling 
 bike. 

 On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 8:20:18 PM UTC-8 Hoch in ut wrote:

> Apparently, this is all subjective, because I felt just the opposite! 
>  
> The Clem was so long, much longer than what I’d been used to mountain 
> biking for 30+ years. The trails here are fairly chunky, and maneuvering 
> around rocks and/or high-centering became issues. I thought I’d adapt, 
> but 
> never could. 
> The Romeo (with flat bars) handled razor sharp and I could weave 
> around and over all obstacles without the fear of pedal strikes or 
> 

Re: [RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

[Ryan Frahm]

I have also seen (on here) that you can have the seat tube reamed to fit 
27.2. I’d probably be okay with it on the Gus but wouldn’t likely chance it 
on my Susie with thinner tubes. 

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 7:33:20 AM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:

> Scott, 
> I have an extra Jones loop on hand. Thanks for the offer though! I put a 
> Simworks Fun bar (I think that’s the name) on for the moment. I plan to try 
> out a few different bars. 
>
> Ryan,  
>
> I’ve got a really nice Simworks Nitto 27.2 post that I don’t have bike 
> for. I think once I get the 26.8 post in and sized up I’ll sand a bit off 
> the Nitto and use it. It’s got a cool finish so I don’t want to remove too 
> much. 
>
> Paul levers and Motolites are going on tonight. I pulled them off my 
> Trucker. I’m using a Ritchey triple but a White Industry double would be 
> nice. Gotta get some cash save up. 
>
> Cheers! 
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 22, 2022, at 10:00 AM, greenteadrinkers  
> wrote:
>
> Jacob - If you are interested I have a really clean Jones Loop I pulled 
> off an Analog build that I'm interested in selling.
>
>
> Best,
> Scott
>
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 9:55:23 AM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Exciting, I can’t wait to see it built up! I definitely double and 
>> probably triple checked on seatpost sizing. A 27.2 would have been really 
>> cool but I don’t find any need for my old titanium post on the Susie, it 
>> rides smoother than anything. 
>>
>> Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on the Gus! I have been feeling like I 
>> should have gone that way so I could load it up and never feel worried but 
>> I just love my quill stem! Will has assured me I don’t need to be worried 
>> at all with my 175lbs and a 30 or so camp load. I’m getting more 
>> comfortable feeling like she’s not fragile but…
>>
>> Just a note, AVT bike is having a site wide sale up to 25% off. Tough to 
>> beat on Paul or White industries parts!
>> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 5:00:57 AM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The frame safely arrived yesterday. It’s huge. The color is beautiful. I 
>>> would have picked orange had the choice been available but now I’m happy 
>>> with mermaid. 
>>>
>>> The fork is on and the bottom bracket is in. I had forgotten how easy 9 
>>> speed cassettes install. 12 speed is such a pain. 
>>>
>>> Tonight I want to get on the brakes and size up the chain. I’m still 
>>> waiting on both derailleurs, tires, valve stems and a seatpost. I 
>>> mistakenly bought a 28.6mm post instead of a 26.8mm. 
>>>
>>> Hopefully everything shows up soon or I’ll start pulling parts from 
>>> other bikes to get this on the road. 
>>>
>>> I can not believe how big it is. That steerer tube was so long but then 
>>> the head tube swallowed it up. I can’t wait to ride it. 
>>>
>>> -Jacob
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 16, 2022, at 4:03 PM, Mackenzy Albright  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I wish I had tried flat bars (or nitto wavies) on the romanceur before 
>>> I sold it. I did appreciate it's slow speed maneuverability, especially 
>>> while climbing. it may have been a good compromise to drop bars vs swept 
>>> backs! Maybe it would have mitigated some of the front wheel lifting off 
>>> bumps in really low gearing climbs. That being said I ran my romancer with 
>>> 26" wheels and racing ralph 2.1's and felt like I was constantly getting 
>>> pedal strike. 650 was better, but I felt it lost some of the spryness I 
>>> loved so much. I am going to get a custom made based off the romancer with 
>>> a few tweaks. It was a memorable bike and very much enjoyed my time with 
>>> it. But agreed bikes are so much subjective! haha 
>>>
>>>
>>> the clem does love a decent! I also feel like the clementine was quite a 
>>> bit shorter than the JR. It's really a shame they didn't keep the original 
>>> clementine on the roster, I think it's a really swell feeling bike. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 8:20:18 PM UTC-8 Hoch in ut wrote:
>>>
 Apparently, this is all subjective, because I felt just the opposite! 
  
 The Clem was so long, much longer than what I’d been used to mountain 
 biking for 30+ years. The trails here are fairly chunky, and maneuvering 
 around rocks and/or high-centering became issues. I thought I’d adapt, but 
 never could. 
 The Romeo (with flat bars) handled razor sharp and I could weave around 
 and over all obstacles without the fear of pedal strikes or getting hung 
 up. We’ve got some steep climbs here and I never had a problem with the 
 front end wandering. I just felt “at home” with it in just about every 
 aspect. 

 One thing the Clem absolutely destroys the Romeo and other bikes is 
 straight line descents. I could bomb steep gravel roads like Bode Miller 
 soaring down a run. 

 Both good bikes. Just depends on what you prefer and are used to. I 
 personally gave the long wheelbase a 

Re: [RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

[Jacob Byard]

Scott, I have an extra Jones loop on hand. Thanks for the offer though! I put a Simworks Fun bar (I think that’s the name) on for the moment. I plan to try out a few different bars. Ryan,  I’ve got a really nice Simworks Nitto 27.2 post that I don’t have bike for. I think once I get the 26.8 post in and sized up I’ll sand a bit off the Nitto and use it. It’s got a cool finish so I don’t want to remove too much. Paul levers and Motolites are going on tonight. I pulled them off my Trucker. I’m using a Ritchey triple but a White Industry double would be nice. Gotta get some cash save up. Cheers! Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 22, 2022, at 10:00 AM, greenteadrinkers  wrote:Jacob - If you are interested I have a really clean Jones Loop I pulled off an Analog build that I'm interested in selling.Best,ScottOn Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 9:55:23 AM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:Exciting, I can’t wait to see it built up! I definitely double and probably triple checked on seatpost sizing. A 27.2 would have been really cool but I don’t find any need for my old titanium post on the Susie, it rides smoother than anything. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on the Gus! I have been feeling like I should have gone that way so I could load it up and never feel worried but I just love my quill stem! Will has assured me I don’t need to be worried at all with my 175lbs and a 30 or so camp load. I’m getting more comfortable feeling like she’s not fragile but…Just a note, AVT bike is having a site wide sale up to 25% off. Tough to beat on Paul or White industries parts!On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 5:00:57 AM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:The frame safely arrived yesterday. It’s huge. The color is beautiful. I would have picked orange had the choice been available but now I’m happy with mermaid. The fork is on and the bottom bracket is in. I had forgotten how easy 9 speed cassettes install. 12 speed is such a pain. Tonight I want to get on the brakes and size up the chain. I’m still waiting on both derailleurs, tires, valve stems and a seatpost. I mistakenly bought a 28.6mm post instead of a 26.8mm. Hopefully everything shows up soon or I’ll start pulling parts from other bikes to get this on the road. I can not believe how big it is. That steerer tube was so long but then the head tube swallowed it up. I can’t wait to ride it. -JacobSent from my iPhoneOn Nov 16, 2022, at 4:03 PM, Mackenzy Albright  wrote:I wish I had tried flat bars (or nitto wavies) on the romanceur before I sold it. I did appreciate it's slow speed maneuverability, especially while climbing. it may have been a good compromise to drop bars vs swept backs! Maybe it would have mitigated some of the front wheel lifting off bumps in really low gearing climbs. That being said I ran my romancer with 26" wheels and racing ralph 2.1's and felt like I was constantly getting pedal strike. 650 was better, but I felt it lost some of the spryness I loved so much. I am going to get a custom made based off the romancer with a few tweaks. It was a memorable bike and very much enjoyed my time with it. But agreed bikes are so much subjective! haha the clem does love a decent! I also feel like the clementine was quite a bit shorter than the JR. It's really a shame they didn't keep the original clementine on the roster, I think it's a really swell feeling bike. On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 8:20:18 PM UTC-8 Hoch in ut wrote:Apparently, this is all subjective, because I felt just the opposite!  The Clem was so long, much longer than what I’d been used to mountain biking for 30+ years. The trails here are fairly chunky, and maneuvering around rocks and/or high-centering became issues. I thought I’d adapt, but never could. The Romeo (with flat bars) handled razor sharp and I could weave around and over all obstacles without the fear of pedal strikes or getting hung up. We’ve got some steep climbs here and I never had a problem with the front end wandering. I just felt “at home” with it in just about every aspect. One thing the Clem absolutely destroys the Romeo and other bikes is straight line descents. I could bomb steep gravel roads like Bode Miller soaring down a run. Both good bikes. Just depends on what you prefer and are used to. I personally gave the long wheelbase a couple of tries but couldn’t ever come to grips with it. You might. On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 5:16:39 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:RE those comparing Romanceurs and Rivs I loved my (XL disc) Romanceur - but have a bad shoulder / neck. I couldn't run drops. It didn't handle that well with upright bars IMO. The short wheelbase makes it hop  and wheelie a lot climbing. I love climbing. It rode amazing with a shortish stem and towel racks, but was a real neck destroyer. Looked great though. Hauled front basket cargo like nobody's business. I loved it - but not for me. I traded it for a Clementine 59 and (also bought a) Clem Smith JR 64. OG clementine feels a tad like the 

Re: [RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

[greenteadrinkers]

Jacob - If you are interested I have a really clean Jones Loop I pulled off 
an Analog build that I'm interested in selling.

Best,
Scott

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 9:55:23 AM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Exciting, I can’t wait to see it built up! I definitely double and 
> probably triple checked on seatpost sizing. A 27.2 would have been really 
> cool but I don’t find any need for my old titanium post on the Susie, it 
> rides smoother than anything. 
>
> Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on the Gus! I have been feeling like I 
> should have gone that way so I could load it up and never feel worried but 
> I just love my quill stem! Will has assured me I don’t need to be worried 
> at all with my 175lbs and a 30 or so camp load. I’m getting more 
> comfortable feeling like she’s not fragile but…
>
> Just a note, AVT bike is having a site wide sale up to 25% off. Tough to 
> beat on Paul or White industries parts!
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 5:00:57 AM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> The frame safely arrived yesterday. It’s huge. The color is beautiful. I 
>> would have picked orange had the choice been available but now I’m happy 
>> with mermaid. 
>>
>> The fork is on and the bottom bracket is in. I had forgotten how easy 9 
>> speed cassettes install. 12 speed is such a pain. 
>>
>> Tonight I want to get on the brakes and size up the chain. I’m still 
>> waiting on both derailleurs, tires, valve stems and a seatpost. I 
>> mistakenly bought a 28.6mm post instead of a 26.8mm. 
>>
>> Hopefully everything shows up soon or I’ll start pulling parts from other 
>> bikes to get this on the road. 
>>
>> I can not believe how big it is. That steerer tube was so long but then 
>> the head tube swallowed it up. I can’t wait to ride it. 
>>
>> -Jacob
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 16, 2022, at 4:03 PM, Mackenzy Albright  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I wish I had tried flat bars (or nitto wavies) on the romanceur before I 
>> sold it. I did appreciate it's slow speed maneuverability, especially while 
>> climbing. it may have been a good compromise to drop bars vs swept backs! 
>> Maybe it would have mitigated some of the front wheel lifting off bumps in 
>> really low gearing climbs. That being said I ran my romancer with 26" 
>> wheels and racing ralph 2.1's and felt like I was constantly getting pedal 
>> strike. 650 was better, but I felt it lost some of the spryness I loved so 
>> much. I am going to get a custom made based off the romancer with a few 
>> tweaks. It was a memorable bike and very much enjoyed my time with it. But 
>> agreed bikes are so much subjective! haha 
>>
>>
>> the clem does love a decent! I also feel like the clementine was quite a 
>> bit shorter than the JR. It's really a shame they didn't keep the original 
>> clementine on the roster, I think it's a really swell feeling bike. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 8:20:18 PM UTC-8 Hoch in ut wrote:
>>
>>> Apparently, this is all subjective, because I felt just the opposite!  
>>> The Clem was so long, much longer than what I’d been used to mountain 
>>> biking for 30+ years. The trails here are fairly chunky, and maneuvering 
>>> around rocks and/or high-centering became issues. I thought I’d adapt, but 
>>> never could. 
>>> The Romeo (with flat bars) handled razor sharp and I could weave around 
>>> and over all obstacles without the fear of pedal strikes or getting hung 
>>> up. We’ve got some steep climbs here and I never had a problem with the 
>>> front end wandering. I just felt “at home” with it in just about every 
>>> aspect. 
>>>
>>> One thing the Clem absolutely destroys the Romeo and other bikes is 
>>> straight line descents. I could bomb steep gravel roads like Bode Miller 
>>> soaring down a run. 
>>>
>>> Both good bikes. Just depends on what you prefer and are used to. I 
>>> personally gave the long wheelbase a couple of tries but couldn’t ever come 
>>> to grips with it. You might. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 5:16:39 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 RE those comparing Romanceurs and Rivs 

 I loved my (XL disc) Romanceur - but have a bad shoulder / neck. I 
 couldn't run drops. It didn't handle that well with upright bars IMO. The 
 short wheelbase makes it hop  and wheelie a lot climbing. I love climbing. 
 It rode amazing with a shortish stem and towel racks, but was a real neck 
 destroyer. Looked great though. Hauled front basket cargo like nobody's 
 business. I loved it - but not for me. 

 I traded it for a Clementine 59 and (also bought a) Clem Smith JR 64. 
 OG clementine feels a tad like the Romanceur a bit with a bit more room in 
 the front for swept backs and appropriate chain stays to keep it on the 
 ground. Climbs wonderfully. Clem JR just cruises like nobody's business. 
 One of the most fun and cruisey bikes ive ever ridden. The more slack head 
 tube makes it a bit floppier than the 

Re: [RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

[Ryan Frahm]

Exciting, I can’t wait to see it built up! I definitely double and probably 
triple checked on seatpost sizing. A 27.2 would have been really cool but I 
don’t find any need for my old titanium post on the Susie, it rides 
smoother than anything. 

Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on the Gus! I have been feeling like I 
should have gone that way so I could load it up and never feel worried but 
I just love my quill stem! Will has assured me I don’t need to be worried 
at all with my 175lbs and a 30 or so camp load. I’m getting more 
comfortable feeling like she’s not fragile but…

Just a note, AVT bike is having a site wide sale up to 25% off. Tough to 
beat on Paul or White industries parts!
On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 5:00:57 AM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:

> The frame safely arrived yesterday. It’s huge. The color is beautiful. I 
> would have picked orange had the choice been available but now I’m happy 
> with mermaid. 
>
> The fork is on and the bottom bracket is in. I had forgotten how easy 9 
> speed cassettes install. 12 speed is such a pain. 
>
> Tonight I want to get on the brakes and size up the chain. I’m still 
> waiting on both derailleurs, tires, valve stems and a seatpost. I 
> mistakenly bought a 28.6mm post instead of a 26.8mm. 
>
> Hopefully everything shows up soon or I’ll start pulling parts from other 
> bikes to get this on the road. 
>
> I can not believe how big it is. That steerer tube was so long but then 
> the head tube swallowed it up. I can’t wait to ride it. 
>
> -Jacob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 16, 2022, at 4:03 PM, Mackenzy Albright  
> wrote:
>
> I wish I had tried flat bars (or nitto wavies) on the romanceur before I 
> sold it. I did appreciate it's slow speed maneuverability, especially while 
> climbing. it may have been a good compromise to drop bars vs swept backs! 
> Maybe it would have mitigated some of the front wheel lifting off bumps in 
> really low gearing climbs. That being said I ran my romancer with 26" 
> wheels and racing ralph 2.1's and felt like I was constantly getting pedal 
> strike. 650 was better, but I felt it lost some of the spryness I loved so 
> much. I am going to get a custom made based off the romancer with a few 
> tweaks. It was a memorable bike and very much enjoyed my time with it. But 
> agreed bikes are so much subjective! haha 
>
>
> the clem does love a decent! I also feel like the clementine was quite a 
> bit shorter than the JR. It's really a shame they didn't keep the original 
> clementine on the roster, I think it's a really swell feeling bike. 
>
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 8:20:18 PM UTC-8 Hoch in ut wrote:
>
>> Apparently, this is all subjective, because I felt just the opposite!  
>> The Clem was so long, much longer than what I’d been used to mountain 
>> biking for 30+ years. The trails here are fairly chunky, and maneuvering 
>> around rocks and/or high-centering became issues. I thought I’d adapt, but 
>> never could. 
>> The Romeo (with flat bars) handled razor sharp and I could weave around 
>> and over all obstacles without the fear of pedal strikes or getting hung 
>> up. We’ve got some steep climbs here and I never had a problem with the 
>> front end wandering. I just felt “at home” with it in just about every 
>> aspect. 
>>
>> One thing the Clem absolutely destroys the Romeo and other bikes is 
>> straight line descents. I could bomb steep gravel roads like Bode Miller 
>> soaring down a run. 
>>
>> Both good bikes. Just depends on what you prefer and are used to. I 
>> personally gave the long wheelbase a couple of tries but couldn’t ever come 
>> to grips with it. You might. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 5:16:39 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>>
>>> RE those comparing Romanceurs and Rivs 
>>>
>>> I loved my (XL disc) Romanceur - but have a bad shoulder / neck. I 
>>> couldn't run drops. It didn't handle that well with upright bars IMO. The 
>>> short wheelbase makes it hop  and wheelie a lot climbing. I love climbing. 
>>> It rode amazing with a shortish stem and towel racks, but was a real neck 
>>> destroyer. Looked great though. Hauled front basket cargo like nobody's 
>>> business. I loved it - but not for me. 
>>>
>>> I traded it for a Clementine 59 and (also bought a) Clem Smith JR 64. OG 
>>> clementine feels a tad like the Romanceur a bit with a bit more room in the 
>>> front for swept backs and appropriate chain stays to keep it on the ground. 
>>> Climbs wonderfully. Clem JR just cruises like nobody's business. One of the 
>>> most fun and cruisey bikes ive ever ridden. The more slack head tube makes 
>>> it a bit floppier than the Clementine with a high front load (ie basket or 
>>> porteur bag) Im likely going to keep the Clementine and part with the JR 
>>> only because of slight overlap and lack of space. 
>>>
>>> Now that I took the RIV plunge, having a high maintenance body that gets 
>>> pissed off easily, I can't imagine not owning a rivendell for 

Re: [RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

[Jacob Byard]

The frame safely arrived yesterday. It’s huge. The color is beautiful. I would have picked orange had the choice been available but now I’m happy with mermaid. The fork is on and the bottom bracket is in. I had forgotten how easy 9 speed cassettes install. 12 speed is such a pain. Tonight I want to get on the brakes and size up the chain. I’m still waiting on both derailleurs, tires, valve stems and a seatpost. I mistakenly bought a 28.6mm post instead of a 26.8mm. Hopefully everything shows up soon or I’ll start pulling parts from other bikes to get this on the road. I can not believe how big it is. That steerer tube was so long but then the head tube swallowed it up. I can’t wait to ride it. -JacobSent from my iPhoneOn Nov 16, 2022, at 4:03 PM, Mackenzy Albright  wrote:I wish I had tried flat bars (or nitto wavies) on the romanceur before I sold it. I did appreciate it's slow speed maneuverability, especially while climbing. it may have been a good compromise to drop bars vs swept backs! Maybe it would have mitigated some of the front wheel lifting off bumps in really low gearing climbs. That being said I ran my romancer with 26" wheels and racing ralph 2.1's and felt like I was constantly getting pedal strike. 650 was better, but I felt it lost some of the spryness I loved so much. I am going to get a custom made based off the romancer with a few tweaks. It was a memorable bike and very much enjoyed my time with it. But agreed bikes are so much subjective! haha the clem does love a decent! I also feel like the clementine was quite a bit shorter than the JR. It's really a shame they didn't keep the original clementine on the roster, I think it's a really swell feeling bike. On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 8:20:18 PM UTC-8 Hoch in ut wrote:Apparently, this is all subjective, because I felt just the opposite!  The Clem was so long, much longer than what I’d been used to mountain biking for 30+ years. The trails here are fairly chunky, and maneuvering around rocks and/or high-centering became issues. I thought I’d adapt, but never could. The Romeo (with flat bars) handled razor sharp and I could weave around and over all obstacles without the fear of pedal strikes or getting hung up. We’ve got some steep climbs here and I never had a problem with the front end wandering. I just felt “at home” with it in just about every aspect. One thing the Clem absolutely destroys the Romeo and other bikes is straight line descents. I could bomb steep gravel roads like Bode Miller soaring down a run. Both good bikes. Just depends on what you prefer and are used to. I personally gave the long wheelbase a couple of tries but couldn’t ever come to grips with it. You might. On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 5:16:39 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:RE those comparing Romanceurs and Rivs I loved my (XL disc) Romanceur - but have a bad shoulder / neck. I couldn't run drops. It didn't handle that well with upright bars IMO. The short wheelbase makes it hop  and wheelie a lot climbing. I love climbing. It rode amazing with a shortish stem and towel racks, but was a real neck destroyer. Looked great though. Hauled front basket cargo like nobody's business. I loved it - but not for me. I traded it for a Clementine 59 and (also bought a) Clem Smith JR 64. OG clementine feels a tad like the Romanceur a bit with a bit more room in the front for swept backs and appropriate chain stays to keep it on the ground. Climbs wonderfully. Clem JR just cruises like nobody's business. One of the most fun and cruisey bikes ive ever ridden. The more slack head tube makes it a bit floppier than the Clementine with a high front load (ie basket or porteur bag) Im likely going to keep the Clementine and part with the JR only because of slight overlap and lack of space. Now that I took the RIV plunge, having a high maintenance body that gets pissed off easily, I can't imagine not owning a rivendell for my main ride anymore. I dont think you can make a wrong decision. I think it comes down to more or less tire size, aesthetics, and availability. Each has their slight niche variations, but overall no matter what be amazing. On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 3:47:06 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:Triples are my fave. On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 3:14:06 PM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:It’s the Mermaid color. They only had one in stock so the decision was pretty easy. Right now I’ll be going 3x9. I bought a NOS Ritchey triple recently to put on my Long Haul Trucker but it’ll be going on the Gus. I could see going 2x9 or 2x10 at some point. White Industries makes some really nice stuff. It’s funny because I just bought some Paul Motolite brakes for the Trucker and now they’ll be pulled for the Gus. Back to the mismatched v-brakes. I still need wheels but I found a cheap set on eBay. They’ll do for now. The shipping notification just came through. Hopefully I’ll have it early next week. Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 15, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Luke Hendrickson 

Re: [RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

[Mackenzy Albright]

I wish I had tried flat bars (or nitto wavies) on the romanceur before I 
sold it. I did appreciate it's slow speed maneuverability, especially while 
climbing. it may have been a good compromise to drop bars vs swept backs! 
Maybe it would have mitigated some of the front wheel lifting off bumps in 
really low gearing climbs. That being said I ran my romancer with 26" 
wheels and racing ralph 2.1's and felt like I was constantly getting pedal 
strike. 650 was better, but I felt it lost some of the spryness I loved so 
much. I am going to get a custom made based off the romancer with a few 
tweaks. It was a memorable bike and very much enjoyed my time with it. But 
agreed bikes are so much subjective! haha 

the clem does love a decent! I also feel like the clementine was quite a 
bit shorter than the JR. It's really a shame they didn't keep the original 
clementine on the roster, I think it's a really swell feeling bike. 

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 8:20:18 PM UTC-8 Hoch in ut wrote:

> Apparently, this is all subjective, because I felt just the opposite!  
> The Clem was so long, much longer than what I’d been used to mountain 
> biking for 30+ years. The trails here are fairly chunky, and maneuvering 
> around rocks and/or high-centering became issues. I thought I’d adapt, but 
> never could. 
> The Romeo (with flat bars) handled razor sharp and I could weave around 
> and over all obstacles without the fear of pedal strikes or getting hung 
> up. We’ve got some steep climbs here and I never had a problem with the 
> front end wandering. I just felt “at home” with it in just about every 
> aspect. 
>
> One thing the Clem absolutely destroys the Romeo and other bikes is 
> straight line descents. I could bomb steep gravel roads like Bode Miller 
> soaring down a run. 
>
> Both good bikes. Just depends on what you prefer and are used to. I 
> personally gave the long wheelbase a couple of tries but couldn’t ever come 
> to grips with it. You might. 
>
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 5:16:39 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>
>> RE those comparing Romanceurs and Rivs 
>>
>> I loved my (XL disc) Romanceur - but have a bad shoulder / neck. I 
>> couldn't run drops. It didn't handle that well with upright bars IMO. The 
>> short wheelbase makes it hop  and wheelie a lot climbing. I love climbing. 
>> It rode amazing with a shortish stem and towel racks, but was a real neck 
>> destroyer. Looked great though. Hauled front basket cargo like nobody's 
>> business. I loved it - but not for me. 
>>
>> I traded it for a Clementine 59 and (also bought a) Clem Smith JR 64. OG 
>> clementine feels a tad like the Romanceur a bit with a bit more room in the 
>> front for swept backs and appropriate chain stays to keep it on the ground. 
>> Climbs wonderfully. Clem JR just cruises like nobody's business. One of the 
>> most fun and cruisey bikes ive ever ridden. The more slack head tube makes 
>> it a bit floppier than the Clementine with a high front load (ie basket or 
>> porteur bag) Im likely going to keep the Clementine and part with the JR 
>> only because of slight overlap and lack of space. 
>>
>> Now that I took the RIV plunge, having a high maintenance body that gets 
>> pissed off easily, I can't imagine not owning a rivendell for my main ride 
>> anymore. I dont think you can make a wrong decision. I think it comes down 
>> to more or less tire size, aesthetics, and availability. Each has their 
>> slight niche variations, but overall no matter what be amazing. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 3:47:06 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>
>>> Triples are my fave. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 3:14:06 PM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It’s the Mermaid color. They only had one in stock so the decision was 
 pretty easy. 

 Right now I’ll be going 3x9. I bought a NOS Ritchey triple recently to 
 put on my Long Haul Trucker but it’ll be going on the Gus. I could see 
 going 2x9 or 2x10 at some point. White Industries makes some really nice 
 stuff. 

 It’s funny because I just bought some Paul Motolite brakes for the 
 Trucker and now they’ll be pulled for the Gus. Back to the mismatched 
 v-brakes. 

 I still need wheels but I found a cheap set on eBay. They’ll do for 
 now. 

 The shipping notification just came through. Hopefully I’ll have it 
 early next week. 

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 15, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Luke Hendrickson  
 wrote:

 Awesome!!! Which color is your Gus, Jacob? Very much looking forward 
 to seeing it built up. What sorta gearing you have in mind?



 On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 2:41:13 PM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Thanks for all the replies. I ended up going with a Gus. C Cycles 
> out of Montreal had a frame in stock. I've been eyeing parts for the 
> build 
> all day. My parts stash is 

Re: [RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

[Hoch in ut]

Apparently, this is all subjective, because I felt just the opposite!  
The Clem was so long, much longer than what I’d been used to mountain 
biking for 30+ years. The trails here are fairly chunky, and maneuvering 
around rocks and/or high-centering became issues. I thought I’d adapt, but 
never could. 
The Romeo (with flat bars) handled razor sharp and I could weave around and 
over all obstacles without the fear of pedal strikes or getting hung up. 
We’ve got some steep climbs here and I never had a problem with the front 
end wandering. I just felt “at home” with it in just about every aspect. 

One thing the Clem absolutely destroys the Romeo and other bikes is 
straight line descents. I could bomb steep gravel roads like Bode Miller 
soaring down a run. 

Both good bikes. Just depends on what you prefer and are used to. I 
personally gave the long wheelbase a couple of tries but couldn’t ever come 
to grips with it. You might. 

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 5:16:39 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:

> RE those comparing Romanceurs and Rivs 
>
> I loved my (XL disc) Romanceur - but have a bad shoulder / neck. I 
> couldn't run drops. It didn't handle that well with upright bars IMO. The 
> short wheelbase makes it hop  and wheelie a lot climbing. I love climbing. 
> It rode amazing with a shortish stem and towel racks, but was a real neck 
> destroyer. Looked great though. Hauled front basket cargo like nobody's 
> business. I loved it - but not for me. 
>
> I traded it for a Clementine 59 and (also bought a) Clem Smith JR 64. OG 
> clementine feels a tad like the Romanceur a bit with a bit more room in the 
> front for swept backs and appropriate chain stays to keep it on the ground. 
> Climbs wonderfully. Clem JR just cruises like nobody's business. One of the 
> most fun and cruisey bikes ive ever ridden. The more slack head tube makes 
> it a bit floppier than the Clementine with a high front load (ie basket or 
> porteur bag) Im likely going to keep the Clementine and part with the JR 
> only because of slight overlap and lack of space. 
>
> Now that I took the RIV plunge, having a high maintenance body that gets 
> pissed off easily, I can't imagine not owning a rivendell for my main ride 
> anymore. I dont think you can make a wrong decision. I think it comes down 
> to more or less tire size, aesthetics, and availability. Each has their 
> slight niche variations, but overall no matter what be amazing. 
>
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 3:47:06 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> Triples are my fave. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 3:14:06 PM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It’s the Mermaid color. They only had one in stock so the decision was 
>>> pretty easy. 
>>>
>>> Right now I’ll be going 3x9. I bought a NOS Ritchey triple recently to 
>>> put on my Long Haul Trucker but it’ll be going on the Gus. I could see 
>>> going 2x9 or 2x10 at some point. White Industries makes some really nice 
>>> stuff. 
>>>
>>> It’s funny because I just bought some Paul Motolite brakes for the 
>>> Trucker and now they’ll be pulled for the Gus. Back to the mismatched 
>>> v-brakes. 
>>>
>>> I still need wheels but I found a cheap set on eBay. They’ll do for now. 
>>>
>>> The shipping notification just came through. Hopefully I’ll have it 
>>> early next week. 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 15, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Luke Hendrickson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Awesome!!! Which color is your Gus, Jacob? Very much looking forward to 
>>> seeing it built up. What sorta gearing you have in mind?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 2:41:13 PM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for all the replies. I ended up going with a Gus. C Cycles out 
 of Montreal had a frame in stock. I've been eyeing parts for the build all 
 day. My parts stash is pretty full so hopefully things will come together 
 quickly on the build. Thanks again for the help! 


 On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 11:30:00 AM UTC-5 Mark Schneider wrote:

> Country roads, sounds like the Platypus would be perfect. The 
> Gus/Susie really is nice for washboard, and rough off-road rides, but 
> rides 
> great on the roads too. I have a large Susie, and I'm running Rene Herse 
> tires, and I'm impressed with the responsiveness. It's very plush! Kind 
> of 
> wish I'd gotten the Gus, just because I've packed on some weight and 
> there's a small drop-off I occasionally find myself going over. 
>
> On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 7:44:14 AM UTC-8 saxt...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks I’ll stop hijacking this thread and ask for more advice on a 
>> separate one.
>> On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 8:38:48 AM UTC-5 Hoch in ut wrote:
>>
>>> I’m running Albatross currently  it works well but I am looking for 
>>> something with a little less rise and sweep. I may have to just bend my 
>>> 

Re: [RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

[Mackenzy Albright]

RE those comparing Romanceurs and Rivs 

I loved my (XL disc) Romanceur - but have a bad shoulder / neck. I couldn't 
run drops. It didn't handle that well with upright bars IMO. The short 
wheelbase makes it hop  and wheelie a lot climbing. I love climbing. It 
rode amazing with a shortish stem and towel racks, but was a real neck 
destroyer. Looked great though. Hauled front basket cargo like nobody's 
business. I loved it - but not for me. 

I traded it for a Clementine 59 and (also bought a) Clem Smith JR 64. OG 
clementine feels a tad like the Romanceur a bit with a bit more room in the 
front for swept backs and appropriate chain stays to keep it on the ground. 
Climbs wonderfully. Clem JR just cruises like nobody's business. One of the 
most fun and cruisey bikes ive ever ridden. The more slack head tube makes 
it a bit floppier than the Clementine with a high front load (ie basket or 
porteur bag) Im likely going to keep the Clementine and part with the JR 
only because of slight overlap and lack of space. 

Now that I took the RIV plunge, having a high maintenance body that gets 
pissed off easily, I can't imagine not owning a rivendell for my main ride 
anymore. I dont think you can make a wrong decision. I think it comes down 
to more or less tire size, aesthetics, and availability. Each has their 
slight niche variations, but overall no matter what be amazing. 

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 3:47:06 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> Triples are my fave. 
>
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 3:14:06 PM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> It’s the Mermaid color. They only had one in stock so the decision was 
>> pretty easy. 
>>
>> Right now I’ll be going 3x9. I bought a NOS Ritchey triple recently to 
>> put on my Long Haul Trucker but it’ll be going on the Gus. I could see 
>> going 2x9 or 2x10 at some point. White Industries makes some really nice 
>> stuff. 
>>
>> It’s funny because I just bought some Paul Motolite brakes for the 
>> Trucker and now they’ll be pulled for the Gus. Back to the mismatched 
>> v-brakes. 
>>
>> I still need wheels but I found a cheap set on eBay. They’ll do for now. 
>>
>> The shipping notification just came through. Hopefully I’ll have it early 
>> next week. 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 15, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Luke Hendrickson  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Awesome!!! Which color is your Gus, Jacob? Very much looking forward to 
>> seeing it built up. What sorta gearing you have in mind?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 2:41:13 PM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for all the replies. I ended up going with a Gus. C Cycles out 
>>> of Montreal had a frame in stock. I've been eyeing parts for the build all 
>>> day. My parts stash is pretty full so hopefully things will come together 
>>> quickly on the build. Thanks again for the help! 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 11:30:00 AM UTC-5 Mark Schneider wrote:
>>>
 Country roads, sounds like the Platypus would be perfect. The Gus/Susie 
 really is nice for washboard, and rough off-road rides, but rides great on 
 the roads too. I have a large Susie, and I'm running Rene Herse tires, and 
 I'm impressed with the responsiveness. It's very plush! Kind of wish I'd 
 gotten the Gus, just because I've packed on some weight and there's a 
 small 
 drop-off I occasionally find myself going over. 

 On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 7:44:14 AM UTC-8 saxt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

>
> Thanks I’ll stop hijacking this thread and ask for more advice on a 
> separate one.
> On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 8:38:48 AM UTC-5 Hoch in ut wrote:
>
>> I’m running Albatross currently  it works well but I am looking for 
>> something with a little less rise and sweep. I may have to just bend my 
>> Albatross out a little and call it good. 
>>
>> The bike itself is awesome. Coming from a Clem, which was too heavy 
>> duty for me, this bike feels more springy and lively. Rides fast on the 
>> road and tackles dirt roads and singletrack with ease. 
>>
>> One knock I have is the fork feels a little stiff. I guess for 
>> heavier front loads. But I wish it were a little more compliant. Other 
>> than 
>> that, it’s a great bike. 
>>
>> On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 3:19:22 PM UTC-7 saxt...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> What bars are you running on the Romanceur?  I was about to start a 
>>> similar thread looking for advice and one of my shortlist choices was 
>>> the 
>>> Romanceur..so curious about your set up. 
>>> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 8:32:37 PM UTC-5 Hoch in ut wrote:
>>>
 I’d agree Gus is not the right bike. Neither is a Clem. Riv rates 
 them the same, as far as durability. 

 There’s been some good suggestions already. 

 I’d offer a non-Riv option: Crust Romanceur. Light, 

Re: [RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

[Luke Hendrickson]

Triples are my fave. 

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 3:14:06 PM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:

> It’s the Mermaid color. They only had one in stock so the decision was 
> pretty easy. 
>
> Right now I’ll be going 3x9. I bought a NOS Ritchey triple recently to put 
> on my Long Haul Trucker but it’ll be going on the Gus. I could see going 
> 2x9 or 2x10 at some point. White Industries makes some really nice stuff. 
>
> It’s funny because I just bought some Paul Motolite brakes for the Trucker 
> and now they’ll be pulled for the Gus. Back to the mismatched v-brakes. 
>
> I still need wheels but I found a cheap set on eBay. They’ll do for now. 
>
> The shipping notification just came through. Hopefully I’ll have it early 
> next week. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 15, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Luke Hendrickson  
> wrote:
>
> Awesome!!! Which color is your Gus, Jacob? Very much looking forward to 
> seeing it built up. What sorta gearing you have in mind?
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 2:41:13 PM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for all the replies. I ended up going with a Gus. C Cycles out 
>> of Montreal had a frame in stock. I've been eyeing parts for the build all 
>> day. My parts stash is pretty full so hopefully things will come together 
>> quickly on the build. Thanks again for the help! 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 11:30:00 AM UTC-5 Mark Schneider wrote:
>>
>>> Country roads, sounds like the Platypus would be perfect. The Gus/Susie 
>>> really is nice for washboard, and rough off-road rides, but rides great on 
>>> the roads too. I have a large Susie, and I'm running Rene Herse tires, and 
>>> I'm impressed with the responsiveness. It's very plush! Kind of wish I'd 
>>> gotten the Gus, just because I've packed on some weight and there's a small 
>>> drop-off I occasionally find myself going over. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 7:44:14 AM UTC-8 saxt...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Thanks I’ll stop hijacking this thread and ask for more advice on a 
 separate one.
 On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 8:38:48 AM UTC-5 Hoch in ut wrote:

> I’m running Albatross currently  it works well but I am looking for 
> something with a little less rise and sweep. I may have to just bend my 
> Albatross out a little and call it good. 
>
> The bike itself is awesome. Coming from a Clem, which was too heavy 
> duty for me, this bike feels more springy and lively. Rides fast on the 
> road and tackles dirt roads and singletrack with ease. 
>
> One knock I have is the fork feels a little stiff. I guess for heavier 
> front loads. But I wish it were a little more compliant. Other than that, 
> it’s a great bike. 
>
> On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 3:19:22 PM UTC-7 saxt...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> What bars are you running on the Romanceur?  I was about to start a 
>> similar thread looking for advice and one of my shortlist choices was 
>> the 
>> Romanceur..so curious about your set up. 
>> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 8:32:37 PM UTC-5 Hoch in ut wrote:
>>
>>> I’d agree Gus is not the right bike. Neither is a Clem. Riv rates 
>>> them the same, as far as durability. 
>>>
>>> There’s been some good suggestions already. 
>>>
>>> I’d offer a non-Riv option: Crust Romanceur. Light, lugged frame. 
>>> 853 steel. 650b x 2.4” clearance. In my opinion, perfect for the ride 
>>> that 
>>> you describe. Mine rides light and springy (mine is the canti version). 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 6:55:02 AM UTC-7 
>>> jacob...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly a 
 Platypus. The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but something 
 or 
 other always came up. 

 The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on 
 paved country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the 
 unpaved 
 stuff is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride 
 but any 
 bike with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 
 mile 
 ride. 

 I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in 
 town rides to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo 
 riding usually sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry. 

 My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I 
 know the Gus has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit 
 better. 
 I'm not a fan of super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got broke 
 in a 
 fall last year so I like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is 
 wonderful). 

 Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on the 
 

Re: [RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

[Jacob Byard]

It’s the Mermaid color. They only had one in stock so the decision was pretty easy. Right now I’ll be going 3x9. I bought a NOS Ritchey triple recently to put on my Long Haul Trucker but it’ll be going on the Gus. I could see going 2x9 or 2x10 at some point. White Industries makes some really nice stuff. It’s funny because I just bought some Paul Motolite brakes for the Trucker and now they’ll be pulled for the Gus. Back to the mismatched v-brakes. I still need wheels but I found a cheap set on eBay. They’ll do for now. The shipping notification just came through. Hopefully I’ll have it early next week. Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 15, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Luke Hendrickson  wrote:Awesome!!! Which color is your Gus, Jacob? Very much looking forward to seeing it built up. What sorta gearing you have in mind?On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 2:41:13 PM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:Thanks for all the replies. I ended up going with a Gus. C Cycles out of Montreal had a frame in stock. I've been eyeing parts for the build all day. My parts stash is pretty full so hopefully things will come together quickly on the build. Thanks again for the help! On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 11:30:00 AM UTC-5 Mark Schneider wrote:Country roads, sounds like the Platypus would be perfect. The Gus/Susie really is nice for washboard, and rough off-road rides, but rides great on the roads too. I have a large Susie, and I'm running Rene Herse tires, and I'm impressed with the responsiveness. It's very plush! Kind of wish I'd gotten the Gus, just because I've packed on some weight and there's a small drop-off I occasionally find myself going over. On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 7:44:14 AM UTC-8 saxt...@gmail.com wrote:Thanks I’ll stop hijacking this thread and ask for more advice on a separate one.On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 8:38:48 AM UTC-5 Hoch in ut wrote:I’m running Albatross currently  it works well but I am looking for something with a little less rise and sweep. I may have to just bend my Albatross out a little and call it good. The bike itself is awesome. Coming from a Clem, which was too heavy duty for me, this bike feels more springy and lively. Rides fast on the road and tackles dirt roads and singletrack with ease. One knock I have is the fork feels a little stiff. I guess for heavier front loads. But I wish it were a little more compliant. Other than that, it’s a great bike. On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 3:19:22 PM UTC-7 saxt...@gmail.com wrote:What bars are you running on the Romanceur?  I was about to start a similar thread looking for advice and one of my shortlist choices was the Romanceur..so curious about your set up. On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 8:32:37 PM UTC-5 Hoch in ut wrote:I’d agree Gus is not the right bike. Neither is a Clem. Riv rates them the same, as far as durability. There’s been some good suggestions already. I’d offer a non-Riv option: Crust Romanceur. Light, lugged frame. 853 steel. 650b x 2.4” clearance. In my opinion, perfect for the ride that you describe. Mine rides light and springy (mine is the canti version). On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 6:55:02 AM UTC-7 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly a Platypus. The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but something or other always came up. The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on paved country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the unpaved stuff is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride but any bike with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 mile ride. I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in town rides to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo riding usually sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry. My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I know the Gus has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit better. I'm not a fan of super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got broke in a fall last year so I like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is wonderful). Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on the road as the Platypus?  Thanks for the help! Cheers,Jacob



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Re: [RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

[Brian Turner]

Welcome to the Gus / Susie gang! Looking forward to seeing yours built up,
and hearing your thoughts on how you like it!

On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 6:00 PM Ryan Frahm  wrote:

> Sounds great! You will not be disappointed!
>
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 2:45:00 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> Awesome!!! Which color is your Gus, Jacob? Very much looking forward to
>> seeing it built up. What sorta gearing you have in mind?
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 2:41:13 PM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for all the replies. I ended up going with a Gus. C Cycles out
>>> of Montreal had a frame in stock. I've been eyeing parts for the build all
>>> day. My parts stash is pretty full so hopefully things will come together
>>> quickly on the build. Thanks again for the help!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 11:30:00 AM UTC-5 Mark Schneider wrote:
>>>
 Country roads, sounds like the Platypus would be perfect. The Gus/Susie
 really is nice for washboard, and rough off-road rides, but rides great on
 the roads too. I have a large Susie, and I'm running Rene Herse tires, and
 I'm impressed with the responsiveness. It's very plush! Kind of wish I'd
 gotten the Gus, just because I've packed on some weight and there's a small
 drop-off I occasionally find myself going over.

 On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 7:44:14 AM UTC-8 saxt...@gmail.com
 wrote:

>
> Thanks I’ll stop hijacking this thread and ask for more advice on a
> separate one.
> On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 8:38:48 AM UTC-5 Hoch in ut wrote:
>
>> I’m running Albatross currently  it works well but I am looking for
>> something with a little less rise and sweep. I may have to just bend my
>> Albatross out a little and call it good.
>>
>> The bike itself is awesome. Coming from a Clem, which was too heavy
>> duty for me, this bike feels more springy and lively. Rides fast on the
>> road and tackles dirt roads and singletrack with ease.
>>
>> One knock I have is the fork feels a little stiff. I guess for
>> heavier front loads. But I wish it were a little more compliant. Other 
>> than
>> that, it’s a great bike.
>>
>> On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 3:19:22 PM UTC-7 saxt...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> What bars are you running on the Romanceur?  I was about to start a
>>> similar thread looking for advice and one of my shortlist choices was 
>>> the
>>> Romanceur..so curious about your set up.
>>> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 8:32:37 PM UTC-5 Hoch in ut wrote:
>>>
 I’d agree Gus is not the right bike. Neither is a Clem. Riv rates
 them the same, as far as durability.

 There’s been some good suggestions already.

 I’d offer a non-Riv option: Crust Romanceur. Light, lugged frame.
 853 steel. 650b x 2.4” clearance. In my opinion, perfect for the ride 
 that
 you describe. Mine rides light and springy (mine is the canti version).

 On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 6:55:02 AM UTC-7
 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly
> a Platypus. The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but 
> something or
> other always came up.
>
> The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on
> paved country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the 
> unpaved
> stuff is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride 
> but any
> bike with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 
> mile
> ride.
>
> I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in
> town rides to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo
> riding usually sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry.
>
> My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I
> know the Gus has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit 
> better.
> I'm not a fan of super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got broke 
> in a
> fall last year so I like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is 
> wonderful).
>
> Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on the
> road as the Platypus?
>
> Thanks for the help!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jacob
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

['Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 What size, Jacob? XL? Do they have another one?!?!

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 03:41:18 PM MST, Jacob Byard 
 wrote:  
 
 Thanks for all the replies. I ended up going with a Gus. C Cycles out of 
Montreal had a frame in stock. I've been eyeing parts for the build all day. My 
parts stash is pretty full so hopefully things will come together quickly on 
the build. Thanks again for the help! 


On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 11:30:00 AM UTC-5 Mark Schneider wrote:

Country roads, sounds like the Platypus would be perfect. The Gus/Susie really 
is nice for washboard, and rough off-road rides, but rides great on the roads 
too. I have a large Susie, and I'm running Rene Herse tires, and I'm impressed 
with the responsiveness. It's very plush! Kind of wish I'd gotten the Gus, just 
because I've packed on some weight and there's a small drop-off I occasionally 
find myself going over. 

On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 7:44:14 AM UTC-8 saxt...@gmail.com wrote:


Thanks I’ll stop hijacking this thread and ask for more advice on a separate 
one.On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 8:38:48 AM UTC-5 Hoch in ut wrote:

I’m running Albatross currently  it works well but I am looking for something 
with a little less rise and sweep. I may have to just bend my Albatross out a 
little and call it good. 
The bike itself is awesome. Coming from a Clem, which was too heavy duty for 
me, this bike feels more springy and lively. Rides fast on the road and tackles 
dirt roads and singletrack with ease. 
One knock I have is the fork feels a little stiff. I guess for heavier front 
loads. But I wish it were a little more compliant. Other than that, it’s a 
great bike. 

On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 3:19:22 PM UTC-7 saxt...@gmail.com wrote:


What bars are you running on the Romanceur?  I was about to start a similar 
thread looking for advice and one of my shortlist choices was the Romanceur..so 
curious about your set up. On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 8:32:37 PM UTC-5 
Hoch in ut wrote:

I’d agree Gus is not the right bike. Neither is a Clem. Riv rates them the 
same, as far as durability. 
There’s been some good suggestions already. 
I’d offer a non-Riv option: Crust Romanceur. Light, lugged frame. 853 steel. 
650b x 2.4” clearance. In my opinion, perfect for the ride that you describe. 
Mine rides light and springy (mine is the canti version). 
On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 6:55:02 AM UTC-7 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:

I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly a Platypus. 
The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but something or other always 
came up. 

The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on paved 
country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the unpaved stuff is 
rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride but any bike with 
45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 mile ride. 

I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in town rides to 
get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo riding usually sits 
around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry. 

My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I know the Gus 
has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit better. I'm not a fan of 
super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got broke in a fall last year so I 
like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is wonderful). 

Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on the road as the 
Platypus?  

Thanks for the help! 

Cheers,
Jacob








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Re: [RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

[Christian B-H]

Jacob, 

If you've been called by the Gus for a couple of years, find a Gus! 

I don't see a reason in your post even for why you have shortlisted the 
Platypus too, though it would be an excellent bike for the riding riding. I 
wanted a mermaid Gus. I then wanted an Atlantis. Both got away from me. 
Then I decided it was the mermaid color that i loved and anything would do. 
I got a Platypus when the timing presented itself and have been happy. It's 
my only mixte and fills the gaps perfectly between my Karate Monkey, Kona 
Rove LTD, and Merlin Road Bike. I get groceries with it, take it on gravel 
rides with friends on racier bikes, take it on light mountain biking trails 
and single track, and sometimes just sneak out to ride it for 5minutes 
between work calls. I love my platypus. But I'd be lying if I said i don't 
still pine for the mermaid Gus I was originally after. When the money and 
the bicycle align, buy the one your heart wants! Life is too short. Will we 
think later, "ah but at least I bought the bike that perfectly fit into my 
stable/quiver" or "thank goodness i bought the right bike for the exact 
purpose"? No. You mention that you have a new bike itch, and you've always 
wanted the Gus. I fear if you get the Platypus, you might scratch the itch, 
but it'll come back quickly. Follow your heart! 

If you-re saying that suddenly the Platypus popped up and joined the Gus in 
that heart-spot equally, then get a Platypus since it's they're available 
new from Riv! LIke Mack here, whose Platypus is my favorite I've seen yet 
besides the all/black accented Crust Build (*kudos, Mack!), I*'m 200lbs and 
enjoy the surfability of the Platy while on road and light trails. 

Enjoy the decision. Looking forward to seeing what you go with and hearing 
about how you like it!

Christian in Boulder, CO who hopes to one-day have an all-mermaid stable: 
Platy, Gus, Appa, Roadini. 


On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 8:04:22 PM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> Jacob,
>
> The heart wants what the heart wants. Lugged is very, very nice, but the 
> fillets on the Gus are pretty af. Plus, having the option to monster truck 
> it later is nice. That’s one reason I adore my MIT Atlantis: versatility. 
>
> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 6:16:55 PM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I love the Romanceur but can’t do low trail anymore. I had a crash last 
>> year and can no longer ride drops. I seem to notice the way low trail 
>> handles now and it doesn’t inspire confidence. It’s a shame too because I 
>> have a beautiful rando bag. The Romanceur would be a perfect fit for me. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jacob 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2022, at 8:32 PM, Hoch in ut  wrote:
>>
>> I’d agree Gus is not the right bike. Neither is a Clem. Riv rates them 
>> the same, as far as durability. 
>>
>>
>> There’s been some good suggestions already. 
>>
>> I’d offer a non-Riv option: Crust Romanceur. Light, lugged frame. 853 
>> steel. 650b x 2.4” clearance. In my opinion, perfect for the ride that you 
>> describe. Mine rides light and springy (mine is the canti version). 
>>
>> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 6:55:02 AM UTC-7 jacob...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly a 
>>> Platypus. The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but something or 
>>> other always came up. 
>>>
>>> The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on paved 
>>> country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the unpaved stuff 
>>> is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride but any bike 
>>> with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 mile ride. 
>>>
>>> I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in town 
>>> rides to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo riding 
>>> usually sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry. 
>>>
>>> My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I know the 
>>> Gus has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit better. I'm not a 
>>> fan of super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got broke in a fall last 
>>> year so I like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is wonderful). 
>>>
>>> Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on the road 
>>> as the Platypus?  
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help! 
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Jacob
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

[Luke Hendrickson]

Jacob,

The heart wants what the heart wants. Lugged is very, very nice, but the 
fillets on the Gus are pretty af. Plus, having the option to monster truck 
it later is nice. That’s one reason I adore my MIT Atlantis: versatility. 

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 6:16:55 PM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:

> I love the Romanceur but can’t do low trail anymore. I had a crash last 
> year and can no longer ride drops. I seem to notice the way low trail 
> handles now and it doesn’t inspire confidence. It’s a shame too because I 
> have a beautiful rando bag. The Romanceur would be a perfect fit for me. 
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jacob 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 12, 2022, at 8:32 PM, Hoch in ut  wrote:
>
> I’d agree Gus is not the right bike. Neither is a Clem. Riv rates them 
> the same, as far as durability. 
>
>
> There’s been some good suggestions already. 
>
> I’d offer a non-Riv option: Crust Romanceur. Light, lugged frame. 853 
> steel. 650b x 2.4” clearance. In my opinion, perfect for the ride that you 
> describe. Mine rides light and springy (mine is the canti version). 
>
> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 6:55:02 AM UTC-7 jacob...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly a 
>> Platypus. The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but something or 
>> other always came up. 
>>
>> The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on paved 
>> country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the unpaved stuff 
>> is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride but any bike 
>> with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 mile ride. 
>>
>> I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in town 
>> rides to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo riding 
>> usually sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry. 
>>
>> My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I know the 
>> Gus has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit better. I'm not a 
>> fan of super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got broke in a fall last 
>> year so I like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is wonderful). 
>>
>> Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on the road 
>> as the Platypus?  
>>
>> Thanks for the help! 
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jacob
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

[Jacob Byard]

I love the Romanceur but can’t do low trail anymore. I had a crash last year and can no longer ride drops. I seem to notice the way low trail handles now and it doesn’t inspire confidence. It’s a shame too because I have a beautiful rando bag. The Romanceur would be a perfect fit for me. Cheers,Jacob Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 12, 2022, at 8:32 PM, Hoch in ut  wrote:I’d agree Gus is not the right bike. Neither is a Clem. Riv rates them the same, as far as durability. There’s been some good suggestions already. I’d offer a non-Riv option: Crust Romanceur. Light, lugged frame. 853 steel. 650b x 2.4” clearance. In my opinion, perfect for the ride that you describe. Mine rides light and springy (mine is the canti version). On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 6:55:02 AM UTC-7 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly a Platypus. The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but something or other always came up. The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on paved country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the unpaved stuff is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride but any bike with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 mile ride. I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in town rides to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo riding usually sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry. My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I know the Gus has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit better. I'm not a fan of super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got broke in a fall last year so I like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is wonderful). Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on the road as the Platypus?  Thanks for the help! Cheers,Jacob



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Re: [RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

[Brian Turner]

Gus owner here. For the type of riding you’re describing, I would think a Platy would be the better choice. Gus is overbuilt and suited for fat, chunkier tires to handle rougher terrain. You mentioned not liking the super upright position, and the Gus (with swept back bars) IS super upright. That said, a Platypus will also be a very upright riding position, so keep that in mind.- Brian On Nov 12, 2022, at 9:10 AM, Johnny Alien  wrote:The Gus seems a little bit overbuilt for the type of riding you describe. For what you described I would go with the slightly lighter built Susie or a Clem.On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 8:55:02 AM UTC-5 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly a Platypus. The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but something or other always came up. The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on paved country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the unpaved stuff is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride but any bike with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 mile ride. I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in town rides to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo riding usually sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry. My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I know the Gus has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit better. I'm not a fan of super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got broke in a fall last year so I like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is wonderful). Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on the road as the Platypus?  Thanks for the help! Cheers,Jacob



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