Re: [RBW] Re: New AHH 56cm 650B Build

[SeanMac]

Simply Beautiful!

Sean
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On Saturday, July 27, 2013 9:31:41 PM UTC-4, David Hays wrote:
>
> I switched out the silver side pulls for the Dia Comp 750-thank you Peter- 
> and mounted the VO Zeppelins and a Tubus rack.
> I'm pleased. Thanks everyone for the suggestions and support.
> David  
>
>
> 
>
>
> On Saturday, March 9, 2013 9:25:11 AM UTC-5, Davidbea wrote:
>>
>> Thanks. I'll look into Knogs.
>> I'm also looking to on fenders and on three of my 'almost' Rivendells I 
>> have and am pleased with the hammered VO fenders. I'd like to use them 
>> again but they don't make them wide enough for the Col de la Vie tires I'm 
>> starting with. Anybody have any suggestions? Also can I run the famous 
>> Hetre tires on the AHH? With fenders?
>> Thanks.
>> David
>>
>>  
>> On Mar 9, 2013, at 12:36 AM, Ablejack  wrote:
>>
>> With friction shifters you can run just about anything. For indexed 
>> shifting you need to be a bit matchy. The deraillers do not really matter 
>> so much. The only issue is that an eight speed chain might be too wide for 
>> something like a 10 or 11 speed derailler. As far as shifting all of them 
>> basically do whatever the cable instructs. It's the indexed shifter that 
>> throws or pulls a certain length of cable to the derailler. With friction, 
>> the rider does it by feel and muscle memory. Many riders (esp. 
>> cyclotourists and randonneurs) prefer this because it is more trouble free. 
>> Indexed shifting is a bit finicky with cable tension (aligning the rear 
>> derailler with the rear cogs) and new cables often have to be adjusted as 
>> they break-in and stretch a bit. 
>> My vote for a crankset would be for a wide range double. Usually people 
>> run 46-30 or thereabout. You can get just about the same range of usable 
>> gearing and it makes front shifting a breeze. Basically you just throw it 
>> all the way either way whenever you need. But I understand the lure of 
>> having some huge gear you never use! ;)
>> Excellent bike choice! I love riding fat 650Bs! Oh and at least get some 
>> cheap lights to be seen in case you find yourself out there in the dark or 
>> even bad weather. Even Knogs or something- Never nothing!
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Re: [RBW] Re: New AHH 56cm 650B Build

[David Hays]

I switched out the silver side pulls for the Dia Comp 750-thank you Peter- 
and mounted the VO Zeppelins and a Tubus rack.
I'm pleased. Thanks everyone for the suggestions and support.
David  




On Saturday, March 9, 2013 9:25:11 AM UTC-5, Davidbea wrote:
>
> Thanks. I'll look into Knogs.
> I'm also looking to on fenders and on three of my 'almost' Rivendells I 
> have and am pleased with the hammered VO fenders. I'd like to use them 
> again but they don't make them wide enough for the Col de la Vie tires I'm 
> starting with. Anybody have any suggestions? Also can I run the famous 
> Hetre tires on the AHH? With fenders?
> Thanks.
> David
>
>  
> On Mar 9, 2013, at 12:36 AM, Ablejack > 
> wrote:
>
> With friction shifters you can run just about anything. For indexed 
> shifting you need to be a bit matchy. The deraillers do not really matter 
> so much. The only issue is that an eight speed chain might be too wide for 
> something like a 10 or 11 speed derailler. As far as shifting all of them 
> basically do whatever the cable instructs. It's the indexed shifter that 
> throws or pulls a certain length of cable to the derailler. With friction, 
> the rider does it by feel and muscle memory. Many riders (esp. 
> cyclotourists and randonneurs) prefer this because it is more trouble free. 
> Indexed shifting is a bit finicky with cable tension (aligning the rear 
> derailler with the rear cogs) and new cables often have to be adjusted as 
> they break-in and stretch a bit. 
> My vote for a crankset would be for a wide range double. Usually people 
> run 46-30 or thereabout. You can get just about the same range of usable 
> gearing and it makes front shifting a breeze. Basically you just throw it 
> all the way either way whenever you need. But I understand the lure of 
> having some huge gear you never use! ;)
> Excellent bike choice! I love riding fat 650Bs! Oh and at least get some 
> cheap lights to be seen in case you find yourself out there in the dark or 
> even bad weather. Even Knogs or something- Never nothing!
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Re: [RBW] Re: New AHH 56cm 650B Build

[Davidbea]

Great. Just back from a ride on my MB-5 with VO hammered fenders to find 
tracking says my Homer frameset arrives tomorrow. The ice is till along the 
Friendship Trail but a beautiful day.
Now to start putting the pieces  of the new bike together.
David






On Sunday, March 10, 2013 8:54:08 AM UTC-4, justin...@gmail.com wrote:
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> I have Hetres +VO Zepellins on my 58 Saluki (AHH in different life) with 
> no clearance issues. 
>
> -J, PHL
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Re: [RBW] Re: New AHH 56cm 650B Build

[David Hays]

As I see the specifications the XD2 is 24-36-46 and the XD600 is 26-36-46. 
Being as I'm running a 11-32 cassette and don't live even near any mountains, I 
think I should be okay.

On Mar 10, 2013, at 7:33 AM, NWAJack  wrote:

> On Thursday, March 7, 2013 1:01:42 PM UTC-6, Davidbea wrote:
>> Just made the call and my new A Homer Hilsen frame is on its way. I would 
>> appreciate some guidance on the build. I am looking to work with my local 
>> LBS as well as people in the group.
>> What's the difference between the Sugino XD600 and the XD2? Rivendell 
>> suggests using a 110mm bottom bracket with any of their bikes with the XD2 
>> and information on the XD600 suggests a 113mm. Is the 113 suggestion a 
>> generic or safer (more clearance) one? Suggestions? I like the idea of using 
>> older derailleurs like Suntours or similar Shimanos for the aesthetic but 
>> want to run the triple crank and the 8 speed cassette. Will that work? I'm 
>> more than okay with friction shifting and might use some Suntour down tube 
>> shifters. Thanks in advance for the help.
>> David
> Afraid i'd miss the 24/32 though.
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Re: [RBW] Re: New AHH 56cm 650B Build

[justinaugust]

I have Hetres +VO Zepellins on my 58 Saluki (AHH in different life) with no 
clearance issues. 

-J, PHL

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Re: [RBW] Re: New AHH 56cm 650B Build

[Pondero]

Just one example of a 56cm AHH with Hetres (mine) works great...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28889177@N06/8438964731/in/photostream

And an example of one with Hetres and fenders (not mine) who also commented 
that clearance might be not ideal...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kaptainamerika/4153819143/in/photostream/




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Re: [RBW] Re: New AHH 56cm 650B Build

[David Hays]

Rivendell's geometri chart says maximum tire 650x41 but you found you could fit 
the 42mm Hetres okay? With possible room for fenders of some sort?
David

On Mar 9, 2013, at 9:47 AM, Pondero  wrote:

> David, I had some VO Zepplin fenders and Hetres on my 56cm AHH for a short 
> time.  The clearance was too tight for my taste, and I removed the fenders.  
> I enjoy the tires so much and my need for fenders is rather limited.  I think 
> others have found a way to make fenders work to their satisfaction in your 
> scenario.
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Re: [RBW] Re: New AHH 56cm 650B Build

[Pondero]

David, I had some VO Zepplin fenders and Hetres on my 56cm AHH for a short 
time.  The clearance was too tight for my taste, and I removed the fenders.  I 
enjoy the tires so much and my need for fenders is rather limited.  I think 
others have found a way to make fenders work to their satisfaction in your 
scenario.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New AHH 56cm 650B Build

[David Hays]

Thanks. I'll look into Knogs.
I'm also looking to on fenders and on three of my 'almost' Rivendells I have 
and am pleased with the hammered VO fenders. I'd like to use them again but 
they don't make them wide enough for the Col de la Vie tires I'm starting with. 
Anybody have any suggestions? Also can I run the famous Hetre tires on the AHH? 
With fenders?
Thanks.
David

 
On Mar 9, 2013, at 12:36 AM, Ablejack  wrote:

> With friction shifters you can run just about anything. For indexed shifting 
> you need to be a bit matchy. The deraillers do not really matter so much. The 
> only issue is that an eight speed chain might be too wide for something like 
> a 10 or 11 speed derailler. As far as shifting all of them basically do 
> whatever the cable instructs. It's the indexed shifter that throws or pulls a 
> certain length of cable to the derailler. With friction, the rider does it by 
> feel and muscle memory. Many riders (esp. cyclotourists and randonneurs) 
> prefer this because it is more trouble free. Indexed shifting is a bit 
> finicky with cable tension (aligning the rear derailler with the rear cogs) 
> and new cables often have to be adjusted as they break-in and stretch a bit. 
> My vote for a crankset would be for a wide range double. Usually people run 
> 46-30 or thereabout. You can get just about the same range of usable gearing 
> and it makes front shifting a breeze. Basically you just throw it all the way 
> either way whenever you need. But I understand the lure of having some huge 
> gear you never use! ;)
> Excellent bike choice! I love riding fat 650Bs! Oh and at least get some 
> cheap lights to be seen in case you find yourself out there in the dark or 
> even bad weather. Even Knogs or something- Never nothing!
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: New AHH 56cm 650B Build

[Ablejack]

With friction shifters you can run just about anything. For indexed 
shifting you need to be a bit matchy. The deraillers do not really matter 
so much. The only issue is that an eight speed chain might be too wide for 
something like a 10 or 11 speed derailler. As far as shifting all of them 
basically do whatever the cable instructs. It's the indexed shifter that 
throws or pulls a certain length of cable to the derailler. With friction, 
the rider does it by feel and muscle memory. Many riders (esp. 
cyclotourists and randonneurs) prefer this because it is more trouble free. 
Indexed shifting is a bit finicky with cable tension (aligning the rear 
derailler with the rear cogs) and new cables often have to be adjusted as 
they break-in and stretch a bit. 
My vote for a crankset would be for a wide range double. Usually people run 
46-30 or thereabout. You can get just about the same range of usable 
gearing and it makes front shifting a breeze. Basically you just throw it 
all the way either way whenever you need. But I understand the lure of 
having some huge gear you never use! ;)
Excellent bike choice! I love riding fat 650Bs! Oh and at least get some 
cheap lights to be seen in case you find yourself out there in the dark or 
even bad weather. Even Knogs or something- Never nothing!

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Re: [RBW] Re: New AHH 56cm 650B Build

[David Hays]

I don't ride at night intentionally and went with a cheap set of wheels  to 
start out.


On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:10 PM, IanA wrote:

> Friction on 8 speed works great.  Have you considered building with dynamo 
> lighting?  
> 
> On Thursday, March 7, 2013 12:01:42 PM UTC-7, Davidbea wrote:
> Just made the call and my new A Homer Hilsen frame is on its way. I would 
> appreciate some guidance on the build. I am looking to work with my local LBS 
> as well as people in the group.
> What's the difference between the Sugino XD600 and the XD2? Rivendell 
> suggests using a 110mm bottom bracket with any of their bikes with the XD2 
> and information on the XD600 suggests a 113mm. Is the 113 suggestion a 
> generic or safer (more clearance) one? Suggestions? I like the idea of using 
> older derailleurs like Suntours or similar Shimanos for the aesthetic but 
> want to run the triple crank and the 8 speed cassette. Will that work? I'm 
> more than okay with friction shifting and might use some Suntour down tube 
> shifters. Thanks in advance for the help.
> David
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Re: [RBW] Re: New AHH 56cm 650B Build

[cyclotourist]

Friction 6, 7 or 8 speed you can run pretty much whatever you have. Real
nice like that!


On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Pondero  wrote:

> Hi David, I'm using a Sugino triple, 8-speed cassette, and moved my Silver
> friction shifters to the bar ends.  All this on my 56cm AHH 650b.  I
> couldn't be happier.
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