Re: [RBW] Re: New BLUG post! Frank Jones Sr

2016-10-27 Thread David Stein
The name growing on me. The headbadge is badass. As a quickbeam owner (that
is woefully neglected at the moment), I am super psyched about a new single
speed. I was in Tokyo the other week for work and really wanted to go to a
blue lug and wasn't staying too terribly far from one, maybe 2 or 3 stops
on the JR line, but could not find the time, mostly because they didn't
open till 2pm!

On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> I really like the wing motif on the Frank Jones headbadge, and I freaking
> love the ruler on the underside of the downtube decal.  I hope that's real
> and not just some printmakers reference.  It's a terrific look, in my
> opinion, and will look fine on the next revision of the poster that has all
> the Riv headbadges.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
> On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 8:00:44 AM UTC-7, dstein wrote:
>>
>> I'm in no way saying i wouldn't enjoy the bike, but there's a certain
>> appeal in the name and Rivendell has always had incredibly awesome names.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New BLUG post! Frank Jones Sr

2016-10-27 Thread Bill Lindsay
I really like the wing motif on the Frank Jones headbadge, and I freaking 
love the ruler on the underside of the downtube decal.  I hope that's real 
and not just some printmakers reference.  It's a terrific look, in my 
opinion, and will look fine on the next revision of the poster that has all 
the Riv headbadges.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA


On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 8:00:44 AM UTC-7, dstein wrote:
>
> I'm in no way saying i wouldn't enjoy the bike, but there's a certain 
> appeal in the name and Rivendell has always had incredibly awesome names.
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New BLUG post! Frank Jones Sr

2016-10-27 Thread David Stein
I'm in no way saying i wouldn't enjoy the bike, but there's a certain
appeal in the name and Rivendell has always had incredibly awesome names.

On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> It's a little sad to me that there are people who would fail to enjoy
> their bike if it had a different name. For what it's worth, Hunqapillar is
> a family name that Grant saw on a mailbox on tour.
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Re: [RBW] Re: New BLUG post! Frank Jones Sr

2016-10-27 Thread Bill Lindsay
It's a little sad to me that there are people who would fail to enjoy their 
bike if it had a different name. For what it's worth, Hunqapillar is a family 
name that Grant saw on a mailbox on tour. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: New BLUG post! Frank Jones Sr

2016-10-27 Thread Joe Bernard
I love my Joe Appaloosa with the cool horsey name and graphics; I think it's 
fits well with the sky blue paint 'cause I picture a beautiful horse under a 
sunny sky. But I couldn't for the life of me explain to someone what Joe 
Appaloosa means, or why it's presented as the maker of the bike, with the 
actual company name harder to find. It's just Grant's thing, and he owns the 
business!

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Re: [RBW] Re: New BLUG post! Frank Jones Sr

2016-10-26 Thread dstein
I agree with Reed on this, can't say I wouldn't own a Hunq if it was called 
a Jim Clement, but I wouldn't feel so badass saying I own a Jim Clement as 
I would a Hunqapillar (which maybe others can't stand that name either?). 
The name shouldn't matter by any means, but it does for a lot of people. A 
lot of us get drawn in to rivendell partly because of the bike geometry and 
philosophy, but a large part of that is the initial aesthetics: paint 
colors, paint type, lugs, head badges (plus all the cool baskets and bags 
and handlebars Riv sells). You can't judge a book by its cover, but most of 
do anyway.

Clem Smith Jr still has a nice ring to it. Clem isn't a super common name 
(reminds me of a Nashville band called Clem Snide) and the Jr. adds a 
little mystery behind the family name. A Homer Hilsen sounds like a 
baseball player (which makes total sense when you hear the story behind 
it). Frank Jones Sr sounds like an insurance salesman who named his kid 
after him with high hopes he'd be a star athlete on the college football 
team playing for his dad's alma mater, but is probably disappointed that 
Frank Jones Jr is more into playing world of warcraft and going to school 
for computer science (probably dating myself on the WoW thing, and nothing 
against college football team, wow, or computer science).

On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 at 3:21:33 PM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>
> I hate to say it (and had in fact been keeping it to myself) but if my 
> Hunqapillar had been named Jim Clement (or something of the ilk) I probably 
> wouldn't own it.
>
> These particular people names strike me as the least fun of all worlds. 
> They're just so... Normal. Heck, I'd rather have a bike named Allez!
>
> OTOH, Appaloosa? That's a great bike name!
>
>
> Reed
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Eric  
> wrote:
>
>> First Clem and now Frank Jones, Jr. 
>>
>> Am I the only one not loving these names? 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New BLUG post! Frank Jones Sr

2016-10-26 Thread Lungimsam
Wait, I think it was a manhole cover head tube badge on the Clem Smith and the 
ST decal showed a man climbing out of a sewer through a manhole?

Anyway, the use of the name Frank Jones right after that just led my mind in 
the wrong direction.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New BLUG post! Frank Jones Sr

2016-10-26 Thread Lungimsam
Hilsen and Hillborne have a certain panache. But FJ just makes you think of a 
boiler room operator somewhere in Brooklyn.

Apologies to any one named FJ. The name is a fine, classy name standing alone. 
But when slapped on a downtube right after the release of a decal on their Clem 
Smith with a manhole cover on it, it just invokes the wrong visual.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New BLUG post! Frank Jones Sr

2016-10-26 Thread Patrick Moore
The names are the least important part of Rivendell bicycles, but I have to
agree that Frank Jones, Sr creates no appealing mystique in my mind. It's
too bad they cannot anymore legally use the Tolkien names -- Bombadil and
Legolas were just right.

Still, better Frank Jones, Sr than CAAD10 or Scalpel. It could be much,
much worse.

Though Sam Hillborne seems, at least now, rather natural, no?


>
> On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 at 12:04:26 PM UTC-4, Eric wrote:
>>
>> First Clem and now Frank Jones, Jr.
>>
>> Am I the only one not loving these names?
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New BLUG post! Frank Jones Sr

2016-10-26 Thread Reed Kennedy
I hate to say it (and had in fact been keeping it to myself) but if my
Hunqapillar had been named Jim Clement (or something of the ilk) I probably
wouldn't own it.

These particular people names strike me as the least fun of all worlds.
They're just so... Normal. Heck, I'd rather have a bike named Allez!

OTOH, Appaloosa? That's a great bike name!


Reed

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Eric  wrote:

> First Clem and now Frank Jones, Jr.
>
> Am I the only one not loving these names?
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