Re: [RBW] Re: Potential buyer etiquette

2022-08-05 Thread Joe Bernard 
f/f: frame/fork or frameset.



On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 10:30:43 AM UTC-7 lug...@gmail.com wrote:

> "Just DON'T let someone know, "hey, if you ever want to sell that bike 
> let me know"?
> DON'T? 
> Why not? I would like to know if someone was interested at some point in 
> the future 
> In fact anytime someone comes to buy a part I will ask them "what frame 
> size do you ride?" And if I get a nice frame that size at some point, I'll 
> keep them in mind. 
>
> And what is f/f?
>
> Peter Stock
> Toronto Canada 
>
> On Fri., Aug. 5, 2022, 12:45 p.m. Mike Godwin,  wrote:
>
>> As a potential buyer and infrequent seller, perhaps I sometimes 
>> correspond too much. A Nitto rack or some other jewel, its rare that there 
>> are crickets on the other end. Heck, at least crickets make noise! But I 
>> never thought of Eric's example, and Ken Y hit the nail on the head. If I 
>> sit back and think a bit about whether I should purchase something, even if 
>> I decide not to go through with a transaction, I do let the other party 
>> know my choice. And there will be more folks in line for the item.  I even 
>> do the same with Craigslist ads cuz it is a real PITA for people to flake 
>> out. 
>>
>> Just don't let someone know, hey, if you ever want to sell that bike let 
>> me know. I've done that a few times over the years and end up with the f/f 
>> or bike, but you know what, I've been happy about the purchase even though 
>> I had to choke a little bit on the transaction. All good as these items can 
>> find a new home sometimes. 
>> Mike SLO CA 
>> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 7:46:52 AM UTC-7 Ken Yokanovich wrote:
>>
>>> I look at it a bit like posting something on Craigslist or really ANY 
>>> retail experience. There will always be "tire-kickers," people who take a 
>>> test drive , try on clothes, ask lots of questions about a product. but 
>>> never buy. Retail is exhausting. 
>>>
>>> Kudos and much respect to the team working at Rivendell who have 
>>> undoubtedly fielded many a phone call or email without a purchase.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 5:28:35 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Ok kids, my recent experiences with folks who never reply after the 
 first reach-out are starting to make me a little crazy. Ask for the 
 shipping price, make an offer, knock yourselves out, but after I answer 
 the 
 trick is to tell me yay or nay. This used to be common but now I'm 
 constantly being ghosted by people who act like their email suddenly 
 stopped working. 

 Is this a thing now? Am I just old and crotchety and need to get used 
 to ghosts?? 

 Joe Bernard 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Potential buyer etiquette

2022-08-05 Thread Peter Stock 
"Just DON'T let someone know, "hey, if you ever want to sell that bike let
me know"?
DON'T?
Why not? I would like to know if someone was interested at some point in
the future
In fact anytime someone comes to buy a part I will ask them "what frame
size do you ride?" And if I get a nice frame that size at some point, I'll
keep them in mind.

And what is f/f?

Peter Stock
Toronto Canada

On Fri., Aug. 5, 2022, 12:45 p.m. Mike Godwin, 
wrote:

> As a potential buyer and infrequent seller, perhaps I sometimes correspond
> too much. A Nitto rack or some other jewel, its rare that there are
> crickets on the other end. Heck, at least crickets make noise! But I never
> thought of Eric's example, and Ken Y hit the nail on the head. If I sit
> back and think a bit about whether I should purchase something, even if I
> decide not to go through with a transaction, I do let the other party know
> my choice. And there will be more folks in line for the item.  I even do
> the same with Craigslist ads cuz it is a real PITA for people to flake out.
>
> Just don't let someone know, hey, if you ever want to sell that bike let
> me know. I've done that a few times over the years and end up with the f/f
> or bike, but you know what, I've been happy about the purchase even though
> I had to choke a little bit on the transaction. All good as these items can
> find a new home sometimes.
> Mike SLO CA
> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 7:46:52 AM UTC-7 Ken Yokanovich wrote:
>
>> I look at it a bit like posting something on Craigslist or really ANY
>> retail experience. There will always be "tire-kickers," people who take a
>> test drive , try on clothes, ask lots of questions about a product. but
>> never buy. Retail is exhausting.
>>
>> Kudos and much respect to the team working at Rivendell who have
>> undoubtedly fielded many a phone call or email without a purchase.
>>
>> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 5:28:35 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Ok kids, my recent experiences with folks who never reply after the
>>> first reach-out are starting to make me a little crazy. Ask for the
>>> shipping price, make an offer, knock yourselves out, but after I answer the
>>> trick is to tell me yay or nay. This used to be common but now I'm
>>> constantly being ghosted by people who act like their email suddenly
>>> stopped working.
>>>
>>> Is this a thing now? Am I just old and crotchety and need to get used to
>>> ghosts??
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Potential buyer etiquette

2022-08-05 Thread Eric Marth 
Joe — I sometimes don't recognize names from the forum so I'll plug their 
email address into the search bar here on the group to see what turns up. 
Dozens of posts going back 10 years? Let's party! No posts...at all? Uh, 
give me a minute. 


On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 7:33:08 PM UTC-4 lug...@gmail.com wrote:

> If ghosters then show back up a few months (or years) later for something 
> else, I usually remember them and so they lose the privilege of free 
> packing, Best Rate Shipping etc. 
> Or I just raise the price 
>
> peter stock
> toronto canada
>
> On Thu., Aug. 4, 2022, 7:14 p.m. Joe Mullins,  wrote:
>
>> I’ve listed stuff for sale and gotten those types of “ghosted” messages 
>> from people who’s names I’ve never seen participate in discussions. I 
>> certainly won’t be holding any items for anyone just because they were the 
>> first to reach out. If someone says they want it I’ll hold there spot in 
>> line, especially if I recognize their name. Perhaps these “ghosters” should 
>> be put on the radar of the moderator? Three strikes you’re out?
>>
>> Just my $.02
>>
>> Joe in Los Angeles 
>>
>>
>> On Aug 4, 2022, at 4:01 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> Joe, I think it's fair to expect someone to send you a quick, polite 
>> reply. Especially give this is a community of people with shared interests. 
>>
>> It's tough to make sales happen when you're fielding multiple requests, 
>> you set something aside, someone doesn't follow up, etc. 
>>
>> Though I must admit I don't think a post like this will sway anyone who 
>> doesn't follow up to start doing so. When I sell stuff I definitely give 
>> preference to people whose names I recognize as frequent posters and 
>> contributors — members, not lurkers!
>>
>> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 6:43:26 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I guess it's spelled yea. So yay. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 3:28:35 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Ok kids, my recent experiences with folks who never reply after the 
 first reach-out are starting to make me a little crazy. Ask for the 
 shipping price, make an offer, knock yourselves out, but after I answer 
 the 
 trick is to tell me yay or nay. This used to be common but now I'm 
 constantly being ghosted by people who act like their email suddenly 
 stopped working. 

 Is this a thing now? Am I just old and crotchety and need to get used 
 to ghosts?? 

 Joe Bernard 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Potential buyer etiquette

2022-08-04 Thread Peter Stock 
If ghosters then show back up a few months (or years) later for something
else, I usually remember them and so they lose the privilege of free
packing, Best Rate Shipping etc.
Or I just raise the price

peter stock
toronto canada

On Thu., Aug. 4, 2022, 7:14 p.m. Joe Mullins,  wrote:

> I’ve listed stuff for sale and gotten those types of “ghosted” messages
> from people who’s names I’ve never seen participate in discussions. I
> certainly won’t be holding any items for anyone just because they were the
> first to reach out. If someone says they want it I’ll hold there spot in
> line, especially if I recognize their name. Perhaps these “ghosters” should
> be put on the radar of the moderator? Three strikes you’re out?
>
> Just my $.02
>
> Joe in Los Angeles
>
>
> On Aug 4, 2022, at 4:01 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> Joe, I think it's fair to expect someone to send you a quick, polite
> reply. Especially give this is a community of people with shared interests.
>
> It's tough to make sales happen when you're fielding multiple requests,
> you set something aside, someone doesn't follow up, etc.
>
> Though I must admit I don't think a post like this will sway anyone who
> doesn't follow up to start doing so. When I sell stuff I definitely give
> preference to people whose names I recognize as frequent posters and
> contributors — members, not lurkers!
>
> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 6:43:26 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I guess it's spelled yea. So yay.
>>
>> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 3:28:35 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Ok kids, my recent experiences with folks who never reply after the
>>> first reach-out are starting to make me a little crazy. Ask for the
>>> shipping price, make an offer, knock yourselves out, but after I answer the
>>> trick is to tell me yay or nay. This used to be common but now I'm
>>> constantly being ghosted by people who act like their email suddenly
>>> stopped working.
>>>
>>> Is this a thing now? Am I just old and crotchety and need to get used to
>>> ghosts??
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Potential buyer etiquette

2022-08-04 Thread Joe Bernard 
It would probably help if I had a better memory. I often don't recognize 
member names I know I should, so it's hard to tell who I'm dealing with 
when I get these emails/texts. It's just frustrating is all, I'm meticulous 
about communication when I'm looking to buy something so I expect the same. 
Maybe I should stop expecting that! 

On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 4:14:20 PM UTC-7 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’ve listed stuff for sale and gotten those types of “ghosted” messages 
> from people who’s names I’ve never seen participate in discussions. I 
> certainly won’t be holding any items for anyone just because they were the 
> first to reach out. If someone says they want it I’ll hold there spot in 
> line, especially if I recognize their name. Perhaps these “ghosters” should 
> be put on the radar of the moderator? Three strikes you’re out?
>
> Just my $.02
>
> Joe in Los Angeles 
>
>
> On Aug 4, 2022, at 4:01 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> Joe, I think it's fair to expect someone to send you a quick, polite 
> reply. Especially give this is a community of people with shared interests. 
>
>
> It's tough to make sales happen when you're fielding multiple requests, 
> you set something aside, someone doesn't follow up, etc. 
>
> Though I must admit I don't think a post like this will sway anyone who 
> doesn't follow up to start doing so. When I sell stuff I definitely give 
> preference to people whose names I recognize as frequent posters and 
> contributors — members, not lurkers!
>
> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 6:43:26 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I guess it's spelled yea. So yay. 
>>
>> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 3:28:35 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Ok kids, my recent experiences with folks who never reply after the 
>>> first reach-out are starting to make me a little crazy. Ask for the 
>>> shipping price, make an offer, knock yourselves out, but after I answer the 
>>> trick is to tell me yay or nay. This used to be common but now I'm 
>>> constantly being ghosted by people who act like their email suddenly 
>>> stopped working. 
>>>
>>> Is this a thing now? Am I just old and crotchety and need to get used to 
>>> ghosts?? 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Potential buyer etiquette

2022-08-04 Thread Joe Mullins 
I’ve listed stuff for sale and gotten those types of “ghosted” messages from 
people who’s names I’ve never seen participate in discussions. I certainly 
won’t be holding any items for anyone just because they were the first to reach 
out. If someone says they want it I’ll hold there spot in line, especially if I 
recognize their name. Perhaps these “ghosters” should be put on the radar of 
the moderator? Three strikes you’re out?

Just my $.02

Joe in Los Angeles 


> On Aug 4, 2022, at 4:01 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
> 
> Joe, I think it's fair to expect someone to send you a quick, polite reply. 
> Especially give this is a community of people with shared interests. 
> 
> It's tough to make sales happen when you're fielding multiple requests, you 
> set something aside, someone doesn't follow up, etc. 
> 
> Though I must admit I don't think a post like this will sway anyone who 
> doesn't follow up to start doing so. When I sell stuff I definitely give 
> preference to people whose names I recognize as frequent posters and 
> contributors — members, not lurkers!
> 
>> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 6:43:26 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>> I guess it's spelled yea. So yay. 
>> 
>>> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 3:28:35 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>> Ok kids, my recent experiences with folks who never reply after the first 
>>> reach-out are starting to make me a little crazy. Ask for the shipping 
>>> price, make an offer, knock yourselves out, but after I answer the trick is 
>>> to tell me yay or nay. This used to be common but now I'm constantly being 
>>> ghosted by people who act like their email suddenly stopped working. 
>>> 
>>> Is this a thing now? Am I just old and crotchety and need to get used to 
>>> ghosts?? 
>>> 
>>> Joe Bernard 
> 
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