Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder
Thank you, Matthew, for that fantastic review of the Lido 2. It is on our wish list. The Aeropress and Hario Slim grinder arrived yesterday. Holy smokes! The Aeropress makes a wonderful strong shot of almost espresso. The Slim grinder without the catch bin and with a couple of rubber bands fits directly into the Aeropress and does a fine grind very well in a very compact package. The whole family down to our 1 year old loves their coffee strong (all decaf). Can anyone recommend a good travel espresso cup? Wide enough to receive the Aeropress on top? I prefer made in the USA and it needs to be hearty stuff. I've searched and not found much satisfactory. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, March 24, 2014 9:06:43 AM UTC-6, Matthew J wrote: Sure. Been thinking about filing a report but with my second grader attention span every time I come here I get distracted. First, this is definitely not a travel grinder. Rather it is a handsome, heavy duty professional grade grinder that just happens to eschew the power grid in favor of a little elbow grease. Lido arrived assembled and ready to use. Quality is very high. The brushed stainless steel and glass components look very good. The look fits right in with my modern kitchen. If you have a more traditional kitchen you may want to keep it in a cabinet when not in use. The grinder burs are steel and easily the size of what you find in most heavy duty home electric burr grinders. The first few times I used it spinning the handle was a little difficult. This is consistent with the manual which says the steel burs require a break in period before optimal grinding ease. Three weeks in grinding is much more smooth. I expect it will get even easier as I continue to use. A big plus with the larger size than Hario and similar grinders is you have to twist it less. Lido has infinite settings from very fine to coarse. Changing setting is easy. There are two stainless steel rings. A large one that adjusts the burs and a smaller lock ring. First grind I set it at the OE recommended setting for pour over. This turned out to be somewhat too coarse for the beans I use anyway. I made some micro adjustments the next few grinds until I had it just right. Saturday I bought some different beans (new Brasil harvest is showing up at local stores) that required some adjustments. Making the micro adjustments is easy. One thing I might want to change is the glass grind catch jar. With winter's low humidity hanging around there is a lot of static. The ground coffee clings to the side of the jar something fierce. The glass is thick. Still, I fear I will manage to break it. It would be nice to have a stainless jar, although the look would be a little less clean. I fully expect the Lido will outlive me. It is meant for the coffee nut. If you are one of us, highly recommended. On Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:46:41 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Matthew, Would you mind sharing a report of your experience with the Lido 2 so far? My wife is thinking it makes sense as our home grinder, in large part because the reports I've read say it is much smoother and easier to operate, and less fiddly than the Hario et al. (though at 3 pounds and 12 tall x 3 wide I won't be taking it on the bike -- I'm thinking the Hario mini with rubber bands so it fits directly into an Aeropress for that). With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, March 6, 2014 7:51:38 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: A good electric grinder will easily cost several hundred dollars. Commercial grinders go neat $1k if not over. I much prefer a manual as personally I would rather not use electricity if there is a feasible alternative. The problem with many of the less expensive manual grinders is they either cannot adjust or if they do it is more rube goldberg than what you get with a good electric. Adjusting the level of grind is important if you brew coffee in different ways as well as experiment with the type of beans and roast. The Lido in concept will have the same precise grind control one gets from the high end grinders without using electricity. I just wish the darn things would come in stock so I can try one out. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:42:48 PM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote: For folks that like lighter roast coffees, a blade grinder just simply doesn't provide anywhere near a consistent grind. Will a blade grinder work to make a cup of coffee? Absolutely. Some folks, myself included, will tell you that's better cup of coffee can be made with a consistent grind that a burr grinder provides. Manual, hand-powered grinders also mean you can grind beans anywhere you'd like, which is wonderful for making coffee outside, which a lot of folks seem to be interested in these days when combined with bicycle journeys of any length. David -- You received this message because you are
Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder
Patrick, I like the ikea double-wall stainless (steel is real) espresso cups. I think they are made in Turkey. Don't know if Ikea still sells them. They are 2 for ten bucks on ebay ... http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/321361753868?lpid=82. Best Larry On Thursday, March 27, 2014 8:25:48 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: Thank you, Matthew, for that fantastic review of the Lido 2. It is on our wish list. The Aeropress and Hario Slim grinder arrived yesterday. Holy smokes! The Aeropress makes a wonderful strong shot of almost espresso. The Slim grinder without the catch bin and with a couple of rubber bands fits directly into the Aeropress and does a fine grind very well in a very compact package. The whole family down to our 1 year old loves their coffee strong (all decaf). Can anyone recommend a good travel espresso cup? Wide enough to receive the Aeropress on top? I prefer made in the USA and it needs to be hearty stuff. I've searched and not found much satisfactory. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, March 24, 2014 9:06:43 AM UTC-6, Matthew J wrote: Sure. Been thinking about filing a report but with my second grader attention span every time I come here I get distracted. First, this is definitely not a travel grinder. Rather it is a handsome, heavy duty professional grade grinder that just happens to eschew the power grid in favor of a little elbow grease. Lido arrived assembled and ready to use. Quality is very high. The brushed stainless steel and glass components look very good. The look fits right in with my modern kitchen. If you have a more traditional kitchen you may want to keep it in a cabinet when not in use. The grinder burs are steel and easily the size of what you find in most heavy duty home electric burr grinders. The first few times I used it spinning the handle was a little difficult. This is consistent with the manual which says the steel burs require a break in period before optimal grinding ease. Three weeks in grinding is much more smooth. I expect it will get even easier as I continue to use. A big plus with the larger size than Hario and similar grinders is you have to twist it less. Lido has infinite settings from very fine to coarse. Changing setting is easy. There are two stainless steel rings. A large one that adjusts the burs and a smaller lock ring. First grind I set it at the OE recommended setting for pour over. This turned out to be somewhat too coarse for the beans I use anyway. I made some micro adjustments the next few grinds until I had it just right. Saturday I bought some different beans (new Brasil harvest is showing up at local stores) that required some adjustments. Making the micro adjustments is easy. One thing I might want to change is the glass grind catch jar. With winter's low humidity hanging around there is a lot of static. The ground coffee clings to the side of the jar something fierce. The glass is thick. Still, I fear I will manage to break it. It would be nice to have a stainless jar, although the look would be a little less clean. I fully expect the Lido will outlive me. It is meant for the coffee nut. If you are one of us, highly recommended. On Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:46:41 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Matthew, Would you mind sharing a report of your experience with the Lido 2 so far? My wife is thinking it makes sense as our home grinder, in large part because the reports I've read say it is much smoother and easier to operate, and less fiddly than the Hario et al. (though at 3 pounds and 12 tall x 3 wide I won't be taking it on the bike -- I'm thinking the Hario mini with rubber bands so it fits directly into an Aeropress for that). With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, March 6, 2014 7:51:38 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: A good electric grinder will easily cost several hundred dollars. Commercial grinders go neat $1k if not over. I much prefer a manual as personally I would rather not use electricity if there is a feasible alternative. The problem with many of the less expensive manual grinders is they either cannot adjust or if they do it is more rube goldberg than what you get with a good electric. Adjusting the level of grind is important if you brew coffee in different ways as well as experiment with the type of beans and roast. The Lido in concept will have the same precise grind control one gets from the high end grinders without using electricity. I just wish the darn things would come in stock so I can try one out. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:42:48 PM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote: For folks that like lighter roast coffees, a blade grinder just simply doesn't provide anywhere near a consistent grind. Will a blade grinder work to make a cup of coffee? Absolutely. Some folks, myself included, will tell you that's better cup of coffee can be made with a consistent
Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder
Sure. Been thinking about filing a report but with my second grader attention span every time I come here I get distracted. First, this is definitely not a travel grinder. Rather it is a handsome, heavy duty professional grade grinder that just happens to eschew the power grid in favor of a little elbow grease. Lido arrived assembled and ready to use. Quality is very high. The brushed stainless steel and glass components look very good. The look fits right in with my modern kitchen. If you have a more traditional kitchen you may want to keep it in a cabinet when not in use. The grinder burs are steel and easily the size of what you find in most heavy duty home electric burr grinders. The first few times I used it spinning the handle was a little difficult. This is consistent with the manual which says the steel burs require a break in period before optimal grinding ease. Three weeks in grinding is much more smooth. I expect it will get even easier as I continue to use. A big plus with the larger size than Hario and similar grinders is you have to twist it less. Lido has infinite settings from very fine to coarse. Changing setting is easy. There are two stainless steel rings. A large one that adjusts the burs and a smaller lock ring. First grind I set it at the OE recommended setting for pour over. This turned out to be somewhat too coarse for the beans I use anyway. I made some micro adjustments the next few grinds until I had it just right. Saturday I bought some different beans (new Brasil harvest is showing up at local stores) that required some adjustments. Making the micro adjustments is easy. One thing I might want to change is the glass grind catch jar. With winter's low humidity hanging around there is a lot of static. The ground coffee clings to the side of the jar something fierce. The glass is thick. Still, I fear I will manage to break it. It would be nice to have a stainless jar, although the look would be a little less clean. I fully expect the Lido will outlive me. It is meant for the coffee nut. If you are one of us, highly recommended. On Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:46:41 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Matthew, Would you mind sharing a report of your experience with the Lido 2 so far? My wife is thinking it makes sense as our home grinder, in large part because the reports I've read say it is much smoother and easier to operate, and less fiddly than the Hario et al. (though at 3 pounds and 12 tall x 3 wide I won't be taking it on the bike -- I'm thinking the Hario mini with rubber bands so it fits directly into an Aeropress for that). With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, March 6, 2014 7:51:38 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: A good electric grinder will easily cost several hundred dollars. Commercial grinders go neat $1k if not over. I much prefer a manual as personally I would rather not use electricity if there is a feasible alternative. The problem with many of the less expensive manual grinders is they either cannot adjust or if they do it is more rube goldberg than what you get with a good electric. Adjusting the level of grind is important if you brew coffee in different ways as well as experiment with the type of beans and roast. The Lido in concept will have the same precise grind control one gets from the high end grinders without using electricity. I just wish the darn things would come in stock so I can try one out. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:42:48 PM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote: For folks that like lighter roast coffees, a blade grinder just simply doesn't provide anywhere near a consistent grind. Will a blade grinder work to make a cup of coffee? Absolutely. Some folks, myself included, will tell you that's better cup of coffee can be made with a consistent grind that a burr grinder provides. Manual, hand-powered grinders also mean you can grind beans anywhere you'd like, which is wonderful for making coffee outside, which a lot of folks seem to be interested in these days when combined with bicycle journeys of any length. David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder
Matthew, Would you mind sharing a report of your experience with the Lido 2 so far? My wife is thinking it makes sense as our home grinder, in large part because the reports I've read say it is much smoother and easier to operate, and less fiddly than the Hario et al. (though at 3 pounds and 12 tall x 3 wide I won't be taking it on the bike -- I'm thinking the Hario mini with rubber bands so it fits directly into an Aeropress for that). With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, March 6, 2014 7:51:38 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: A good electric grinder will easily cost several hundred dollars. Commercial grinders go neat $1k if not over. I much prefer a manual as personally I would rather not use electricity if there is a feasible alternative. The problem with many of the less expensive manual grinders is they either cannot adjust or if they do it is more rube goldberg than what you get with a good electric. Adjusting the level of grind is important if you brew coffee in different ways as well as experiment with the type of beans and roast. The Lido in concept will have the same precise grind control one gets from the high end grinders without using electricity. I just wish the darn things would come in stock so I can try one out. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:42:48 PM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote: For folks that like lighter roast coffees, a blade grinder just simply doesn't provide anywhere near a consistent grind. Will a blade grinder work to make a cup of coffee? Absolutely. Some folks, myself included, will tell you that's better cup of coffee can be made with a consistent grind that a burr grinder provides. Manual, hand-powered grinders also mean you can grind beans anywhere you'd like, which is wonderful for making coffee outside, which a lot of folks seem to be interested in these days when combined with bicycle journeys of any length. David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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It comes back to the same thing as bikes. You can get around on a BSO from Wal-Mart. You can get around on a low-end aluminum big-bike maker hybrid. You can ride what the pros ride. You can go Surly/All-City/Salsa. You can go econoclastic Rivendell. You can go custom. And much much more. It's all about your priorities and what you enjoy. -Justin, with more coffee brewing equipment than Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder
A good electric grinder will easily cost several hundred dollars. Commercial grinders go neat $1k if not over. I much prefer a manual as personally I would rather not use electricity if there is a feasible alternative. The problem with many of the less expensive manual grinders is they either cannot adjust or if they do it is more rube goldberg than what you get with a good electric. Adjusting the level of grind is important if you brew coffee in different ways as well as experiment with the type of beans and roast. The Lido in concept will have the same precise grind control one gets from the high end grinders without using electricity. I just wish the darn things would come in stock so I can try one out. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:42:48 PM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote: For folks that like lighter roast coffees, a blade grinder just simply doesn't provide anywhere near a consistent grind. Will a blade grinder work to make a cup of coffee? Absolutely. Some folks, myself included, will tell you that's better cup of coffee can be made with a consistent grind that a burr grinder provides. Manual, hand-powered grinders also mean you can grind beans anywhere you'd like, which is wonderful for making coffee outside, which a lot of folks seem to be interested in these days when combined with bicycle journeys of any length. David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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The Hario I mentioned earlier costs $25 on Amazon at the moment. Ceramic burr grinder, easily and quickly adjustible. No need to go boutique-y unless you want to. Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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It does adjust, but not to the fine degree of the electrics and presumably the Lido. Also, no gauge. I like gauges. On Thursday, March 6, 2014 9:40:11 AM UTC-6, Daniel M wrote: The Hario I mentioned earlier costs $25 on Amazon at the moment. Ceramic burr grinder, easily and quickly adjustible. No need to go boutique-y unless you want to. Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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The Hario is a good budget burr grinder for someone starting out. It doesn't do a very good job for a coarse French press grind. I'm beginning to outgrow mine, and would very much like Matthew's feedback if an OE one is obtainable. David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Hario grinder and I also bought a used Zassenhaus. I love my French press. Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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I vary the size of grind on my porlex between rediculous turkish fine to coarse french press, and it seems to work fine. I've been using it pretty regularly and I think it's plenty tough in the handle. If I recall correctly it's the hario that seems to break after a time. cc On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com wrote: Hario grinder and I also bought a used Zassenhaus. I love my French press. Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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$175 for a coffee grinder? For that kind of money my coworkers can suffer a little noise. I understand sometimes it's worth it to pay more for quality products (like Rivendell...) but when I can get an electric coffee grinder that works fine for less than $10, that amount of money seems a waste. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: Jim - Seriously recommend you check out the Orphan Espresso video I linked above. The OE dude does not look all that muscular. He grinds out a fair amount of beans pretty quick. Some good coffee coming out of Mexico lately. Their season is too short! On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 2:27:20 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote: The person in the cube next to my desk and myself share a coffee pot and bean purchasing. We have an electric grinder that puts out quite a bit of noise pollution for 5 other people in the general vicinity. (we are all IT support people in a 20x30ish room). How much effort is required for this burr grinder, assuming hand cranked? Is it a realistic option for replacing the electric grinder? Or is there a better option out there for low-noise coffee bean grinding? FWIW, we use Ruta Maya Dark Roast coffee that I get at Costco. It is roasted here in Austin, Texas from coffee beans grown in the Chiapas region of southern Mexico by a farmers' cooperative. www.rutamaya.net. -Jim On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: Yes, if you look at a blade grinder it just whacks the s*** out of the beans until you stop, so you have a random chance of hitting a large bean or a small shard; this of course means that when you stop, the vast majority of the particles are in the middle (think standard distribution). With a burr grinder, it's more like a go-no go gauge (or high pass/low pass filter, whatever floats your boat): you set the slop between the top and bottom parts and only particles small enough pass through. You'll see a more consistent grind. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote: Thanks, George. As I understand it, the inconsistency of grind you describe is exactly why people recommend going with a burr grinder over a blade grinder. Can anyone confirm? With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:01:13 PM UTC-7, George Schick wrote: I've used the Krups fast-touch for years with good success. It can be purchased most places for around $20. And, as their web site says, it doubles nicely as a spice grinder, too. One irritating quality about it, though, is it seems that some of the coffee will always settle to the bottom of the grinding chamber and wind up becoming very fine whereas the rest of it remains near the top and is more coarse. I have to hold the lid on tightly, turn it upside down and shake it a few times during the grind in order to more evenly distribute the coffee. http://www.krupsusa.com/All+Products/Coffee+Grinders/Product s/F203/F203.htm On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:54:25 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: What coffee grinder do you recommend? Two uses: -- Home -- Bikepacking (This one was mentioned by someone as fitting inside the Aeropress: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0044ZA066/ref=s 9_simh_gw_p79_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_s=center-2pf_rd_r= 12CYT1TWETYTZZ7PMY48pf_rd_t=101pf_rd_p=1688200382pf_rd_i=507846 ) It's interesting. I'm discovering fresh swiss water decaf coffee well brewed (which I learned how to do through this group -- thank you!) helps my brain in a way similar to the way dark chocolate does (we make our own to get it dark enough without stuff that messes me up). So I'm planning on making coffee on trips now, and there is a vast difference between fresh found and even day old ground, which I can now taste because I am brewing it well. And I don't even have the Aeropress yet. Grin. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --
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You asked for advice, I offered it. FYI the Lido is on back order. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder
For folks that like lighter roast coffees, a blade grinder just simply doesn't provide anywhere near a consistent grind. Will a blade grinder work to make a cup of coffee? Absolutely. Some folks, myself included, will tell you that's better cup of coffee can be made with a consistent grind that a burr grinder provides. Manual, hand-powered grinders also mean you can grind beans anywhere you'd like, which is wonderful for making coffee outside, which a lot of folks seem to be interested in these days when combined with bicycle journeys of any length. David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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I've toyed with the idea of getting a bur grinder to prepare coffee for a press (usually use a Melita drip cone for which a blade grinder is fine). How long does it take to grind say 1/3 cup of beans in the Porlex grinder? I have nothing against electric burr grinders but don't want to spend the money for one. $40 I can afford. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: Deacon - I have that grinder, and think it's fantastic. Nice even grind, every time. It does indeed sort of fit inside the aeropress cylinder as well. I usually don't end up doing that, but it works. Also there is definitely a huge difference between grinding right before you brew and waiting days or weeks. Coffee, after you grind it, goes stale in a matter of minutes. There are worse things in the world than stale coffee, but if you want to do it right, grinding right before you brew makes a huge difference. happy brewing! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Albuquerque, NM, USA Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder
I see that the Porlex accepts up to 1/4 cup of beans. OK, how long to grind 1/4 cup coarsely for a press? Patrick rushed in the morning -- at least, rushed for my coffee Moore On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I've toyed with the idea of getting a bur grinder to prepare coffee for a press (usually use a Melita drip cone for which a blade grinder is fine). How long does it take to grind say 1/3 cup of beans in the Porlex grinder? I have nothing against electric burr grinders but don't want to spend the money for one. $40 I can afford. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: Deacon - I have that grinder, and think it's fantastic. Nice even grind, every time. It does indeed sort of fit inside the aeropress cylinder as well. I usually don't end up doing that, but it works. Also there is definitely a huge difference between grinding right before you brew and waiting days or weeks. Coffee, after you grind it, goes stale in a matter of minutes. There are worse things in the world than stale coffee, but if you want to do it right, grinding right before you brew makes a huge difference. happy brewing! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Albuquerque, NM, USA Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ -- Albuquerque, NM, USA Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder
Most of the manual burr grinders can be operated with a cordless drill if you're in a hurry :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=rWCT9OZioCY Course grinding doesn't take too long, but an espresso grind can take a couple minutes of grinding for 20 grams of beans. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder
About a minute? On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I see that the Porlex accepts up to 1/4 cup of beans. OK, how long to grind 1/4 cup coarsely for a press? Patrick rushed in the morning -- at least, rushed for my coffee Moore On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: I've toyed with the idea of getting a bur grinder to prepare coffee for a press (usually use a Melita drip cone for which a blade grinder is fine). How long does it take to grind say 1/3 cup of beans in the Porlex grinder? I have nothing against electric burr grinders but don't want to spend the money for one. $40 I can afford. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: Deacon - I have that grinder, and think it's fantastic. Nice even grind, every time. It does indeed sort of fit inside the aeropress cylinder as well. I usually don't end up doing that, but it works. Also there is definitely a huge difference between grinding right before you brew and waiting days or weeks. Coffee, after you grind it, goes stale in a matter of minutes. There are worse things in the world than stale coffee, but if you want to do it right, grinding right before you brew makes a huge difference. happy brewing! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Albuquerque, NM, USA Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ -- Albuquerque, NM, USA Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder
Thanks Kevin and Chis. I am staring to imagine how you could use your bicycle to turn this thing. A minute isn't too much -- will proceed. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Kevin Mulcahy kpmulc...@gmail.com wrote: Most of the manual burr grinders can be operated with a cordless drill if you're in a hurry :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=rWCT9OZioCY Course grinding doesn't take too long, but an espresso grind can take a couple minutes of grinding for 20 grams of beans. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Albuquerque, NM, USA Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder
Yes, if you look at a blade grinder it just whacks the s*** out of the beans until you stop, so you have a random chance of hitting a large bean or a small shard; this of course means that when you stop, the vast majority of the particles are in the middle (think standard distribution). With a burr grinder, it's more like a go-no go gauge (or high pass/low pass filter, whatever floats your boat): you set the slop between the top and bottom parts and only particles small enough pass through. You'll see a more consistent grind. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Thanks, George. As I understand it, the inconsistency of grind you describe is exactly why people recommend going with a burr grinder over a blade grinder. Can anyone confirm? With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:01:13 PM UTC-7, George Schick wrote: I've used the Krups fast-touch for years with good success. It can be purchased most places for around $20. And, as their web site says, it doubles nicely as a spice grinder, too. One irritating quality about it, though, is it seems that some of the coffee will always settle to the bottom of the grinding chamber and wind up becoming very fine whereas the rest of it remains near the top and is more coarse. I have to hold the lid on tightly, turn it upside down and shake it a few times during the grind in order to more evenly distribute the coffee. http://www.krupsusa.com/All+Products/Coffee+Grinders/ Products/F203/F203.htm On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:54:25 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: What coffee grinder do you recommend? Two uses: -- Home -- Bikepacking (This one was mentioned by someone as fitting inside the Aeropress: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0044ZA066/ref= s9_simh_gw_p79_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_s=center-2pf_rd_r= 12CYT1TWETYTZZ7PMY48pf_rd_t=101pf_rd_p=1688200382pf_rd_i=507846 ) It's interesting. I'm discovering fresh swiss water decaf coffee well brewed (which I learned how to do through this group -- thank you!) helps my brain in a way similar to the way dark chocolate does (we make our own to get it dark enough without stuff that messes me up). So I'm planning on making coffee on trips now, and there is a vast difference between fresh found and even day old ground, which I can now taste because I am brewing it well. And I don't even have the Aeropress yet. Grin. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder
By the way, it's true the porlex isn't the fastest grinder, but even when I'm making coffee for 4, I don't think to myself (man this is really slowing me down)... Also apparently it's social to do so: http://www.flickr.com/photos/99743766@N00/11097381065/ On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: I just read up on it again. I definitely want a burr grinder, likely hand cranked at home and definitely hand cranked for bikepacking. Issues of grind consistency and temperature eliminate the blade grinders for me. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:07:30 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Thanks, George. As I understand it, the inconsistency of grind you describe is exactly why people recommend going with a burr grinder over a blade grinder. Can anyone confirm? With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:01:13 PM UTC-7, George Schick wrote: I've used the Krups fast-touch for years with good success. It can be purchased most places for around $20. And, as their web site says, it doubles nicely as a spice grinder, too. One irritating quality about it, though, is it seems that some of the coffee will always settle to the bottom of the grinding chamber and wind up becoming very fine whereas the rest of it remains near the top and is more coarse. I have to hold the lid on tightly, turn it upside down and shake it a few times during the grind in order to more evenly distribute the coffee. http://www.krupsusa.com/All+Products/Coffee+Grinders/ Products/F203/F203.htm On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:54:25 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: What coffee grinder do you recommend? Two uses: -- Home -- Bikepacking (This one was mentioned by someone as fitting inside the Aeropress: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0044ZA066/ref= s9_simh_gw_p79_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_s=center-2pf_rd_r= 12CYT1TWETYTZZ7PMY48pf_rd_t=101pf_rd_p=1688200382pf_rd_i=507846 ) It's interesting. I'm discovering fresh swiss water decaf coffee well brewed (which I learned how to do through this group -- thank you!) helps my brain in a way similar to the way dark chocolate does (we make our own to get it dark enough without stuff that messes me up). So I'm planning on making coffee on trips now, and there is a vast difference between fresh found and even day old ground, which I can now taste because I am brewing it well. And I don't even have the Aeropress yet. Grin. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder
The person in the cube next to my desk and myself share a coffee pot and bean purchasing. We have an electric grinder that puts out quite a bit of noise pollution for 5 other people in the general vicinity. (we are all IT support people in a 20x30ish room). How much effort is required for this burr grinder, assuming hand cranked? Is it a realistic option for replacing the electric grinder? Or is there a better option out there for low-noise coffee bean grinding? FWIW, we use Ruta Maya Dark Roast coffee that I get at Costco. It is roasted here in Austin, Texas from coffee beans grown in the Chiapas region of southern Mexico by a farmers' cooperative. www.rutamaya.net. -Jim On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: Yes, if you look at a blade grinder it just whacks the s*** out of the beans until you stop, so you have a random chance of hitting a large bean or a small shard; this of course means that when you stop, the vast majority of the particles are in the middle (think standard distribution). With a burr grinder, it's more like a go-no go gauge (or high pass/low pass filter, whatever floats your boat): you set the slop between the top and bottom parts and only particles small enough pass through. You'll see a more consistent grind. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.comwrote: Thanks, George. As I understand it, the inconsistency of grind you describe is exactly why people recommend going with a burr grinder over a blade grinder. Can anyone confirm? With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:01:13 PM UTC-7, George Schick wrote: I've used the Krups fast-touch for years with good success. It can be purchased most places for around $20. And, as their web site says, it doubles nicely as a spice grinder, too. One irritating quality about it, though, is it seems that some of the coffee will always settle to the bottom of the grinding chamber and wind up becoming very fine whereas the rest of it remains near the top and is more coarse. I have to hold the lid on tightly, turn it upside down and shake it a few times during the grind in order to more evenly distribute the coffee. http://www.krupsusa.com/All+Products/Coffee+Grinders/ Products/F203/F203.htm On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:54:25 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: What coffee grinder do you recommend? Two uses: -- Home -- Bikepacking (This one was mentioned by someone as fitting inside the Aeropress: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0044ZA066/ref= s9_simh_gw_p79_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_s=center-2pf_rd_r= 12CYT1TWETYTZZ7PMY48pf_rd_t=101pf_rd_p=1688200382pf_rd_i=507846 ) It's interesting. I'm discovering fresh swiss water decaf coffee well brewed (which I learned how to do through this group -- thank you!) helps my brain in a way similar to the way dark chocolate does (we make our own to get it dark enough without stuff that messes me up). So I'm planning on making coffee on trips now, and there is a vast difference between fresh found and even day old ground, which I can now taste because I am brewing it well. And I don't even have the Aeropress yet. Grin. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder
Jim - Seriously recommend you check out the Orphan Espresso video I linked above. The OE dude does not look all that muscular. He grinds out a fair amount of beans pretty quick. Some good coffee coming out of Mexico lately. Their season is too short! On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 2:27:20 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote: The person in the cube next to my desk and myself share a coffee pot and bean purchasing. We have an electric grinder that puts out quite a bit of noise pollution for 5 other people in the general vicinity. (we are all IT support people in a 20x30ish room). How much effort is required for this burr grinder, assuming hand cranked? Is it a realistic option for replacing the electric grinder? Or is there a better option out there for low-noise coffee bean grinding? FWIW, we use Ruta Maya Dark Roast coffee that I get at Costco. It is roasted here in Austin, Texas from coffee beans grown in the Chiapas region of southern Mexico by a farmers' cooperative. www.rutamaya.net. -Jim On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org javascript: wrote: Yes, if you look at a blade grinder it just whacks the s*** out of the beans until you stop, so you have a random chance of hitting a large bean or a small shard; this of course means that when you stop, the vast majority of the particles are in the middle (think standard distribution). With a burr grinder, it's more like a go-no go gauge (or high pass/low pass filter, whatever floats your boat): you set the slop between the top and bottom parts and only particles small enough pass through. You'll see a more consistent grind. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript: wrote: Thanks, George. As I understand it, the inconsistency of grind you describe is exactly why people recommend going with a burr grinder over a blade grinder. Can anyone confirm? With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:01:13 PM UTC-7, George Schick wrote: I've used the Krups fast-touch for years with good success. It can be purchased most places for around $20. And, as their web site says, it doubles nicely as a spice grinder, too. One irritating quality about it, though, is it seems that some of the coffee will always settle to the bottom of the grinding chamber and wind up becoming very fine whereas the rest of it remains near the top and is more coarse. I have to hold the lid on tightly, turn it upside down and shake it a few times during the grind in order to more evenly distribute the coffee. http://www.krupsusa.com/All+Products/Coffee+Grinders/ Products/F203/F203.htm On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:54:25 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: What coffee grinder do you recommend? Two uses: — Home — Bikepacking (This one was mentioned by someone as fitting inside the Aeropress: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0044ZA066/ref= s9_simh_gw_p79_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_s=center-2pf_rd_r= 12CYT1TWETYTZZ7PMY48pf_rd_t=101pf_rd_p=1688200382pf_rd_i=507846 ) It’s interesting. I’m discovering fresh swiss water decaf coffee well brewed (which I learned how to do through this group — thank you!) helps my brain in a way similar to the way dark chocolate does (we make our own to get it dark enough without stuff that messes me up). So I’m planning on making coffee on trips now, and there is a vast difference between fresh found and even day old ground, which I can now taste because I am brewing it well. And I don’t even have the Aeropress yet. Grin. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
