Re: [RBW] Re: VO Campagne handlebar review?

2010-10-14 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 08:38 -0700, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
> 
> It's funny... back in college in the late 70s I owned a nice TA-style
> canvas handlebar bag (a knockoff I am sure), and after catching so
> much grief from my friends with sleek nylon handlebar bags, I actually
> developed a disdain for my big clunky, and obviously "unstylish" TA
> bag... But then again, I rode with a "Skid-Lid" back then, so what the
> hell did I know?  I guess karma must be catching up with me; after
> casting that old handlebar bag aside (that I would today give my right
> arm for), it seems only fitting that today I would probably have to
> pay more than the original cost for the privilege of owning such a
> thing of beauty...
> 

What's /really/ funny is how much better the "old style" canvas bags
perform than the "sleek" nylon bags, especially when it comes to keeping
out the water.  I've had my two Berthoud bags out in many hours long
driving rain, and the interior of the the bags have always stayed
completely dry.  I also have a Kirtland Tour Pack nlyon handlebar bag,
and it has no water resistance whatever.  (Of course, the interior
coating dried out and peeled off like a nasty sunburn, which is typical
for old Kirtland stuff.)



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Re: [RBW] Re: VO Campagne handlebar review?

2010-10-14 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 06:45 -0700, Mike wrote:
> A friend of mine has one and loaned it to me for a few days. I didn't
> like it. You can mount it on a front rack (Mark's Rack, Nitto mini-
> front rack) without a decauler but it didn't seem entirely steady. The
> bag's construction seemed cheap and it was too small. I think it's
> even smaller than the Acorn rando bag. The area where you put a cue
> sheet is rather small and so if you used it for a brevet, depending on
> the number of cues, you might find yourself having to adjust the cue
> sheet frequently. Also it's not that tall so if it's going on a big
> bike, say 60cm frame, it looks kind of odd and isn't as easy to
> access. Overall the bag just seems to miss the boat.Still, the bag is
> inexpensive.

It is, after all, meant to be a small bag.  Not everyone likes a bag the
size of the GB28 or has use for something with that much capacity.


> 
> If you're looking for a bag to use for randonneuring just bite the
> bullet and get a Berthoud HB bag through the Rene Herse online store.
> The guy who runs it, Mike Kone, is super nice and helpful.


You can also get Berthoud bags from Peter White, who has been selling
them far longer than Mike Kone's had the Rene Herse name.

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