Re: [RBW] Re: Why not a suspension-corrected fork/frame?

2018-06-18 Thread Philip Williamson
My friend already had a very hard time (a couple years ago) getting a 
replacement fork for his Niner Sir9(?) that was only a couple years old. 
The steerer standard had changed. I passed on buying a Kona Unit X because 
the (rigid) disc fork was 100mm, not 110, and I could see that if I had to 
replace it in five years, I'd need to buy a new wheel, too. Surly designs 
weird work-arounds for backwards compatibility, but you can't future-proof 
anything in the bike industry. 

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

On Saturday, June 16, 2018 at 4:16:31 PM UTC-7, iamkeith wrote:
>
> My first disc brake bike, which was state of the art when I got it, uses a 
> 22mm Hayes caliper mounting standard.  Try and find something that fits. 
>  My modern, once-modern replacement suspension fork has ISS caliper 
> mounting tabs.  All new forks use post mounts, so when it wears out, I'll 
> be forced to get new brakes too?  That's a rhetorical question, of course, 
> because the new fork would have a tapered steerer that wouldn't fit my 1 
> 1/8" headtube.  And, even if it did, it would likely be intended for a 
> thru-axle 110 boost hub standard, so I'd need to rebuild my wheel anyway. 
>  Which is probably a good thing, because then i could ditch the old-school 
> 6 bolt rotor mounting standard for the new and improved centerlock 
> standard.  This year, that is.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Why not a suspension-corrected fork/frame?

2018-06-16 Thread iamkeith
My first disc brake bike, which was state of the art when I got it, uses a 22mm 
Hayes caliper mounting standard.  Try and find something that fits.  My modern, 
once-modern replacement suspension fork has ISS caliper mounting tabs.  All new 
forks use post mounts, so when it wears out, I'll be forced to get new brakes 
too?  That's a rhetorical question, of course, because the new fork would have 
a tapered steerer that wouldn't fit my 1 1/8" headtube.  And, even if it did, 
it would likely be intended for a thru-axle 110 boost hub standard, so I'd need 
to rebuild my wheel anyway.  Which is probably a good thing, because then i 
could ditch the old-school 6 bolt rotor mounting standard for the new and 
improved centerlock standard.  This year, that is.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Why not a suspension-corrected fork/frame?

2018-06-16 Thread Patrick Moore
Disc brakes and well designed suspension forks are no more prone to
obsolescence than rim brakes or rigid forks, for which, also, there are
fashions (high-rake? Paul, Compass, centerpulls? -- not in the original
Rivendell catalogues). And please explain why disc brakes will last less
long than calipers or cantis or those horrible modern V brakes?

Patrick Moore, whose BB7s on his bilaminate custom dirt road bike will be
things of beauty forever.

The period Rockshock fork on the 1996 Race Lite I owned worked as well in
2016 as it did in 1996; though I personally have no need for suspension
forks of any era. And BB7s have been around longer than Compass brakes and,
I daresay, some of the Dia Compe calipers.

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 8:13 AM, iamkeith  wrote:

> Setting aesthetics, appropriateness of riding style and necessary
> design/handling compromises aside, I'm surprised nobody has pointed out the
> most obvious strike against suspension (not to mention disc brakes):
> longevity and built-in obsolescence.
>
>

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