Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[luckyturnip]

I wish I had a better pic of this, I bet someone does. But this Platypus built 
by Crust “lives rent free in my mind”, as the kids say. 



> On Dec 10, 2021, at 08:39, Eric Marth  wrote:
> 
> I'm pretty sure that I dislike black components on bikes. Oh, I can handle a 
> black derailer or some brakes, I guess. But all black stem, bars, seatpost, 
> crank, etc is, I'm thinking, not my cup of tea. I'm more of a decaf espresso 
> type. 
> 
> Any who — can anyone share with me pictures of nice builds with black 
> components? 
> 
> With gratitude,
> Eric 
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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[Jon Dukeman]

Zoom in with thumb & fore finger

On Fri, Dec 10, 2021, 10:28 AM Jon Dukeman  wrote:

> My Surly. I'll look for better pics
>
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2021, 9:39 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> I'm pretty sure that I dislike black components on bikes. Oh, I can
>> handle a black derailer or some brakes, I guess. But all black stem, bars,
>> seatpost, crank, etc is, I'm thinking, not my cup of tea. I'm more of a
>> decaf espresso type.
>>
>> Any who — can anyone share with me pictures of nice builds with black
>> components?
>>
>> With gratitude,
>> Eric
>>
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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[Patch T]

Maybe Bill Lindsay will show his Amethyst Smoke Legolas with black 
components. I love that bike and the build he chose for it. (I love most of 
Bill's bikes and the builds he chooses for them.)

Patch, in NYC, who somehow feels inappropriate linking to someone else's 
Flickr, so won't
 
On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 12:41:12 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:

> Reverse order.
> [image: DSCF0130 copy.jpeg]
>
> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 9:40:29 AM UTC-8 David Person wrote:
>
>> [image: DSCF0133 copy.jpeg]
>>
>>
>> One of each.  Hillborne with mostly silver components (though I really 
>> like the black Dyad Rims with silver braking surface) and Surly Disc 
>> Trucker with a mix of black/silver components.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[luckyturnip]

Not a Rivendell but here’s my Kelly Roshambo (now with black pedals). The bike 
itself is kind of a coffee bean color. 



> On Dec 10, 2021, at 09:49, Patch T  wrote:
> 
> Maybe Bill Lindsay will show his Amethyst Smoke Legolas with black 
> components. I love that bike and the build he chose for it. (I love most of 
> Bill's bikes and the builds he chooses for them.)
> 
> Patch, in NYC, who somehow feels inappropriate linking to someone else's 
> Flickr, so won't
>  
>> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 12:41:12 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Reverse order.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 9:40:29 AM UTC-8 David Person wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> One of each.  Hillborne with mostly silver components (though I really like 
>>> the black Dyad Rims with silver braking surface) and Surly Disc Trucker 
>>> with a mix of black/silver components.
>>> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[David Person]

Nice Roadini, Bones.  I'm becoming very partial to black rims with machined 
(silver) sidewalls.

On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 10:08:35 AM UTC-8 Lucky wrote:

> Not a Rivendell but here’s my Kelly Roshambo (now with black pedals). The 
> bike itself is kind of a coffee bean color. 
>
>
>
> On Dec 10, 2021, at 09:49, Patch T  wrote:
>
> Maybe Bill Lindsay will show his Amethyst Smoke Legolas with black 
> components. I love that bike and the build he chose for it. (I love most of 
> Bill's bikes and the builds he chooses for them.)
>
>
> Patch, in NYC, who somehow feels inappropriate linking to someone else's 
> Flickr, so won't
>  
> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 12:41:12 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Reverse order.
>> [image: DSCF0130 copy.jpeg]
>>
>> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 9:40:29 AM UTC-8 David Person wrote:
>>
>>> [image: DSCF0133 copy.jpeg]
>>>
>>>
>>> One of each.  Hillborne with mostly silver components (though I really 
>>> like the black Dyad Rims with silver braking surface) and Surly Disc 
>>> Trucker with a mix of black/silver components.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[David Person]

For me, whether or not black components work on a bike depends a lot on the 
frame color.

On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 10:53:21 AM UTC-8 David Person wrote:

> Nice Roadini, Bones.  I'm becoming very partial to black rims with 
> machined (silver) sidewalls.
>
> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 10:08:35 AM UTC-8 Lucky wrote:
>
>> Not a Rivendell but here’s my Kelly Roshambo (now with black pedals). The 
>> bike itself is kind of a coffee bean color. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 10, 2021, at 09:49, Patch T  wrote:
>>
>> Maybe Bill Lindsay will show his Amethyst Smoke Legolas with black 
>> components. I love that bike and the build he chose for it. (I love most of 
>> Bill's bikes and the builds he chooses for them.)
>>
>>
>> Patch, in NYC, who somehow feels inappropriate linking to someone else's 
>> Flickr, so won't
>>  
>> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 12:41:12 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Reverse order.
>>> [image: DSCF0130 copy.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 9:40:29 AM UTC-8 David Person wrote:
>>>
 [image: DSCF0133 copy.jpeg]


 One of each.  Hillborne with mostly silver components (though I really 
 like the black Dyad Rims with silver braking surface) and Surly Disc 
 Trucker with a mix of black/silver components.

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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[Patch T]

I second both these sentiments. Very nice indeed.

On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 1:53:21 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:

> Nice Roadini, Bones.  I'm becoming very partial to black rims with 
> machined (silver) sidewalls.
>
> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 10:08:35 AM UTC-8 Lucky wrote:
>
>> Not a Rivendell but here’s my Kelly Roshambo (now with black pedals). The 
>> bike itself is kind of a coffee bean color. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 10, 2021, at 09:49, Patch T  wrote:
>>
>> Maybe Bill Lindsay will show his Amethyst Smoke Legolas with black 
>> components. I love that bike and the build he chose for it. (I love most of 
>> Bill's bikes and the builds he chooses for them.)
>>
>>
>> Patch, in NYC, who somehow feels inappropriate linking to someone else's 
>> Flickr, so won't
>>  
>> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 12:41:12 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Reverse order.
>>> [image: DSCF0130 copy.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 9:40:29 AM UTC-8 David Person wrote:
>>>
 [image: DSCF0133 copy.jpeg]


 One of each.  Hillborne with mostly silver components (though I really 
 like the black Dyad Rims with silver braking surface) and Surly Disc 
 Trucker with a mix of black/silver components.

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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[Jeremy Till]

My Clem H with black bars/stem/seatpost/rims/chainrings:

https://flic.kr/p/2mELwX1

-Jeremy Till
Sacramento, CA

On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 11:33:58 AM UTC-8 Patch T wrote:

> I second both these sentiments. Very nice indeed.
>
> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 1:53:21 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Nice Roadini, Bones.  I'm becoming very partial to black rims with 
>> machined (silver) sidewalls.
>>
>> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 10:08:35 AM UTC-8 Lucky wrote:
>>
>>> Not a Rivendell but here’s my Kelly Roshambo (now with black pedals). 
>>> The bike itself is kind of a coffee bean color. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 10, 2021, at 09:49, Patch T  wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe Bill Lindsay will show his Amethyst Smoke Legolas with black 
>>> components. I love that bike and the build he chose for it. (I love most of 
>>> Bill's bikes and the builds he chooses for them.)
>>>
>>>
>>> Patch, in NYC, who somehow feels inappropriate linking to someone else's 
>>> Flickr, so won't
>>>  
>>> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 12:41:12 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Reverse order.
 [image: DSCF0130 copy.jpeg]

 On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 9:40:29 AM UTC-8 David Person wrote:

> [image: DSCF0133 copy.jpeg]
>
>
> One of each.  Hillborne with mostly silver components (though I really 
> like the black Dyad Rims with silver braking surface) and Surly Disc 
> Trucker with a mix of black/silver components.
>
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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[Berkeleyan]

The less black the better, on my bicycles. But I'll tolerate 
painted/anodized black more than dull "silver" painted parts, which just 
look awful next to polished aluminum and steel bits. Two examples, on my 
new ride, are the Surly Singleator and front brake stay. And yes, the 
Rohloff twister is just an ugly thing, nothing I can do about that right 
now. Might replace with a knurled lightweight aluminum knob when I get time 
to make one.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-9wjdXq6/0/L/i-9wjdXq6-L.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-fZV99Hj/0/L/i-fZV99Hj-L.jpg

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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[Joe Bernard]

Ok Andrew, we're gonna need a full pic of your Rohloff bike. 

Joe Bernard

On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 12:39:57 PM UTC-8 Berkeleyan wrote:

> The less black the better, on my bicycles. But I'll tolerate 
> painted/anodized black more than dull "silver" painted parts, which just 
> look awful next to polished aluminum and steel bits. Two examples, on my 
> new ride, are the Surly Singleator and front brake stay. And yes, the 
> Rohloff twister is just an ugly thing, nothing I can do about that right 
> now. Might replace with a knurled lightweight aluminum knob when I get time 
> to make one.
>
> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-9wjdXq6/0/L/i-9wjdXq6-L.jpg
>
> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-fZV99Hj/0/L/i-fZV99Hj-L.jpg
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[Berkeleyan]

Soon... :-)

On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 12:49:57 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Ok Andrew, we're gonna need a full pic of your Rohloff bike. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 12:39:57 PM UTC-8 Berkeleyan wrote:
>
>> The less black the better, on my bicycles. But I'll tolerate 
>> painted/anodized black more than dull "silver" painted parts, which just 
>> look awful next to polished aluminum and steel bits. Two examples, on my 
>> new ride, are the Surly Singleator and front brake stay. And yes, the 
>> Rohloff twister is just an ugly thing, nothing I can do about that right 
>> now. Might replace with a knurled lightweight aluminum knob when I get time 
>> to make one.
>>
>> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-9wjdXq6/0/L/i-9wjdXq6-L.jpg
>>
>> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-fZV99Hj/0/L/i-fZV99Hj-L.jpg
>>
>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[Matthew Williams]

Joe's Joe has a sharp look:

https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/e9cFQqaLcas/m/RlQ5wyUxAwAJ




On Dec 10, 2021, at 8:39 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:

> I'm pretty sure that I dislike black components on bikes. Oh, I can handle a 
> black derailer or some brakes, I guess. But all black stem, bars, seatpost, 
> crank, etc is, I'm thinking, not my cup of tea. I'm more of a decaf espresso 
> type. 
> 
> Any who — can anyone share with me pictures of nice builds with black 
> components? 
> 
> With gratitude,
> Eric 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[Chris Buzzini]

Thanks, Eric, for kicking off this thread and to everyone who responded! I 
put down a deposit for a Roadeo over the summer and have decided to go with 
black and cream for the frame. These images are really helping me visualize 
my options when it comes to the build. 

Pretty certain I’m going with Shimano components/brifters, but that Shimano 
crank… not so hot to my eye. Hoping that if I go with it in black, it may 
disappear a bit against the black of the frame. Thinking silver for most 
everything else, except the brifters and maybe a pair of black compass 
tires. 

In any case, fun to think about. Thanks for the inspirations! 
On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 3:09:35 PM UTC-5 Jeremy Till wrote:

> My Clem H with black bars/stem/seatpost/rims/chainrings:
>
> https://flic.kr/p/2mELwX1
>
> -Jeremy Till
> Sacramento, CA
>
> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 11:33:58 AM UTC-8 Patch T wrote:
>
>> I second both these sentiments. Very nice indeed.
>>
>> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 1:53:21 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nice Roadini, Bones.  I'm becoming very partial to black rims with 
>>> machined (silver) sidewalls.
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 10:08:35 AM UTC-8 Lucky wrote:
>>>
 Not a Rivendell but here’s my Kelly Roshambo (now with black pedals). 
 The bike itself is kind of a coffee bean color. 



 On Dec 10, 2021, at 09:49, Patch T  wrote:

 Maybe Bill Lindsay will show his Amethyst Smoke Legolas with black 
 components. I love that bike and the build he chose for it. (I love most 
 of 
 Bill's bikes and the builds he chooses for them.)


 Patch, in NYC, who somehow feels inappropriate linking to someone 
 else's Flickr, so won't
  
 On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 12:41:12 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Reverse order.
> [image: DSCF0130 copy.jpeg]
>
> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 9:40:29 AM UTC-8 David Person wrote:
>
>> [image: DSCF0133 copy.jpeg]
>>
>>
>> One of each.  Hillborne with mostly silver components (though I 
>> really like the black Dyad Rims with silver braking surface) and Surly 
>> Disc 
>> Trucker with a mix of black/silver components.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[Jason Glenn]

Christ, 

I love the black and cream frame choice.  FWIW, I think David's Sam looks 
fantastic with the silver cranks -- are they Rene Herse? -- and the black 
rims.  

Jason in L.A.  

On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 5:26:36 PM UTC-5 chris@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks, Eric, for kicking off this thread and to everyone who responded! I 
> put down a deposit for a Roadeo over the summer and have decided to go with 
> black and cream for the frame. These images are really helping me visualize 
> my options when it comes to the build. 
>
> Pretty certain I’m going with Shimano components/brifters, but that 
> Shimano crank… not so hot to my eye. Hoping that if I go with it in black, 
> it may disappear a bit against the black of the frame. Thinking silver for 
> most everything else, except the brifters and maybe a pair of black compass 
> tires. 
>
> In any case, fun to think about. Thanks for the inspirations! 
> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 3:09:35 PM UTC-5 Jeremy Till wrote:
>
>> My Clem H with black bars/stem/seatpost/rims/chainrings:
>>
>> https://flic.kr/p/2mELwX1
>>
>> -Jeremy Till
>> Sacramento, CA
>>
>> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 11:33:58 AM UTC-8 Patch T wrote:
>>
> I second both these sentiments. Very nice indeed.
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 1:53:21 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> Nice Roadini, Bones.  I'm becoming very partial to black rims with 
 machined (silver) sidewalls.

 On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 10:08:35 AM UTC-8 Lucky wrote:

>>> Not a Rivendell but here’s my Kelly Roshambo (now with black pedals). 
> The bike itself is kind of a coffee bean color. 
>
>
>
> On Dec 10, 2021, at 09:49, Patch T  wrote:
>
> Maybe Bill Lindsay will show his Amethyst Smoke Legolas with black 
> components. I love that bike and the build he chose for it. (I love most 
> of 
> Bill's bikes and the builds he chooses for them.)
>
>
> Patch, in NYC, who somehow feels inappropriate linking to someone 
> else's Flickr, so won't
>  
> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 12:41:12 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Reverse order.
>> [image: DSCF0130 copy.jpeg]
>>
>> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 9:40:29 AM UTC-8 David Person wrote:
>>
>>> [image: DSCF0133 copy.jpeg]
>>>
>>>
>>> One of each.  Hillborne with mostly silver components (though I 
>>> really like the black Dyad Rims with silver braking surface) and Surly 
>>> Disc 
>>> Trucker with a mix of black/silver components.
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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[Peter Stock]

nothing is sexier than black 1st Gen Dura Ace.

and i have two bikes with this groupaet.

a Puch Vent Noir

https://photos.app.goo.gl/nY5DFS65ejufNYJ9A

and a Ron Spencer shop brand (probably Harry Quinn built)

https://photos.app.goo.gl/BOg1R7vxov0u9xin2

On Fri., Dec. 10, 2021, 11:39 a.m. Eric Marth,  wrote:

> I'm pretty sure that I dislike black components on bikes. Oh, I can handle
> a black derailer or some brakes, I guess. But all black stem, bars,
> seatpost, crank, etc is, I'm thinking, not my cup of tea. I'm more of a
> decaf espresso type.
>
> Any who — can anyone share with me pictures of nice builds with black
> components?
>
> With gratitude,
> Eric
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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[Robert Dowtin]

Such beauty! I have been waiting for what feels like an eternity to enter 
the conversation with my Riv Road Custom "Blue Panda." I was waiting on the 
last part I needed and that is the silver/black panda MKS pedals that 
arrived today! These are the first pics, in my filthy garage. I'll get her 
out again soon!

https://photos.app.goo.gl/mzEj6ZZE71fxKD3g9

~Rob in NW Ar

On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 9:21:48 PM UTC-6 lug...@gmail.com wrote:

> nothing is sexier than black 1st Gen Dura Ace.
>
> and i have two bikes with this groupaet.
>
> a Puch Vent Noir
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nY5DFS65ejufNYJ9A
>
> and a Ron Spencer shop brand (probably Harry Quinn built) 
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/BOg1R7vxov0u9xin2
>
> On Fri., Dec. 10, 2021, 11:39 a.m. Eric Marth,  wrote:
>
>> I'm pretty sure that I dislike black components on bikes. Oh, I can 
>> handle a black derailer or some brakes, I guess. But all black stem, bars, 
>> seatpost, crank, etc is, I'm thinking, not my cup of tea. I'm more of a 
>> decaf espresso type. 
>>
>> Any who — can anyone share with me pictures of nice builds with black 
>> components? 
>>
>> With gratitude,
>> Eric 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[David Person]

Yes Jason, the crankset is a Rene Herse.  And thanks for the compliment on 
the build.

David

On Monday, December 13, 2021 at 6:04:51 PM UTC-8 Robert Dowtin wrote:

> Such beauty! I have been waiting for what feels like an eternity to enter 
> the conversation with my Riv Road Custom "Blue Panda." I was waiting on the 
> last part I needed and that is the silver/black panda MKS pedals that 
> arrived today! These are the first pics, in my filthy garage. I'll get her 
> out again soon!
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/mzEj6ZZE71fxKD3g9
>
> ~Rob in NW Ar
>
> On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 9:21:48 PM UTC-6 lug...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> nothing is sexier than black 1st Gen Dura Ace.
>>
>> and i have two bikes with this groupaet.
>>
>> a Puch Vent Noir
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nY5DFS65ejufNYJ9A
>>
>> and a Ron Spencer shop brand (probably Harry Quinn built) 
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/BOg1R7vxov0u9xin2
>>
>> On Fri., Dec. 10, 2021, 11:39 a.m. Eric Marth,  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm pretty sure that I dislike black components on bikes. Oh, I can 
>>> handle a black derailer or some brakes, I guess. But all black stem, bars, 
>>> seatpost, crank, etc is, I'm thinking, not my cup of tea. I'm more of a 
>>> decaf espresso type. 
>>>
>>> Any who — can anyone share with me pictures of nice builds with black 
>>> components? 
>>>
>>> With gratitude,
>>> Eric 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[Garth]

Oo  I wanna play "name that saddle" Patrick !  

If you zoom into the photo you can see at the rear of the saddle the 
stylistic remnants of *Italia *, and below forward of that 3 little symbols 
which spell out SLR. That'd be a Selle Italia SLR saddle . (((  for 
the cookie !   

On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 8:07:14 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Max: Please explain (in excruciating detail): Fixed or ss? Gear inches? 
> What are those wheels, and especially, why? And explain radial. 2-cross 
> rear? What is that ass hatchet? (I don't doubt you find it comfortable; 
> I've been loving original issue Flites since 1990.) Custom decals ...???!!! 
> And gravel tires and front rack to complete the package. 
>
> The list demands explanations!
>
> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 2:06 AM Max S  wrote:
>
>> Wow, many nice bikes. Gonna link to my Halloween Special Scary Riv... 
>> I've got a black stem and seatpost I might swap in for the next Halloween, 
>> but in the meantime, I will put back some gray-finish wheels and cranks 
>> back on, because gray & orange is a bit less "on the nose" :-) 
>>
>> - Max "sotto voce" in A2
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/K9RbCHAtCzE 
>> [image: image.jpeg]
>>
>
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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[Max S]

Garth is correct – Selle Italia SLR, one of the later models, 135 grams, no 
cutout. There's an "Ass Saver" on there. The wheels are Enve 6,7 – 60 and 
70 mm deep rims, front and rear, respectively, on DT Swiss 350 hubs. I was 
running a White Industries crank with a 50 t ring and 18 t rear cog (in 
aluminum) by Endless Cogs. Eriksen Ti seatpost, Ibis Ti stem. 

- Max "the Fastest Pumpkin" in A2

On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 3:56:44 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

> Oo  I wanna play "name that saddle" Patrick !  
>
> If you zoom into the photo you can see at the rear of the saddle the 
> stylistic remnants of *Italia *, and below forward of that 3 little 
> symbols which spell out SLR. That'd be a Selle Italia SLR saddle . 
> (((  for the cookie !   
>
> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 8:07:14 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Max: Please explain (in excruciating detail): Fixed or ss? Gear inches? 
>> What are those wheels, and especially, why? And explain radial. 2-cross 
>> rear? What is that ass hatchet? (I don't doubt you find it comfortable; 
>> I've been loving original issue Flites since 1990.) Custom decals ...???!!! 
>> And gravel tires and front rack to complete the package. 
>>
>> The list demands explanations!
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 2:06 AM Max S  wrote:
>>
>>> Wow, many nice bikes. Gonna link to my Halloween Special Scary Riv... 
>>> I've got a black stem and seatpost I might swap in for the next Halloween, 
>>> but in the meantime, I will put back some gray-finish wheels and cranks 
>>> back on, because gray & orange is a bit less "on the nose" :-) 
>>>
>>> - Max "sotto voce" in A2
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/K9RbCHAtCzE 
>>> [image: image.jpeg]
>>>
>>
>> Patrick Moore, grimly bottom-cropping in ABQ, NM 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[Patrick Moore]

Garth: Either your eyes or your monitor are better than mine. When I blow
up the image on my *$1K hi rez 42" work monitor* I can make out a fuzzy,
"maybe" Selle Italia, but that's it.

Max: I beg forgiveness for using a puerile word, but that bike is *neat!*
I did note the ass saver. 50 X 18 with those tires -- I'd guess 27" tall:
75 or 76 gi? Just right for what I assume is a very light and efficient
bike.

Whatzit Weigh?

My 1999 custom Joe gofast fixie is 18 event, but with heavy pedals (DA SPDs
at 360 grams the pair) and heavy Phil hubs F&R, and 2 Iris cages. Original
edition Flite saddle,

On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 8:01 AM Max S  wrote:

> Garth is correct – Selle Italia SLR, one of the later models, 135 grams,
> no cutout. There's an "Ass Saver" on there. The wheels are Enve 6,7 – 60
> and 70 mm deep rims, front and rear, respectively, on DT Swiss 350 hubs. I
> was running a White Industries crank with a 50 t ring and 18 t rear cog (in
> aluminum) by Endless Cogs. Eriksen Ti seatpost, Ibis Ti stem.
>
> - Max "the Fastest Pumpkin" in A2
>
> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 3:56:44 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>
>> Oo  I wanna play "name that saddle" Patrick !
>>
>> If you zoom into the photo you can see at the rear of the saddle the
>> stylistic remnants of *Italia *, and below forward of that 3 little
>> symbols which spell out SLR. That'd be a Selle Italia SLR saddle .
>> (((  for the cookie !  
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 8:07:14 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Max: Please explain (in excruciating detail): Fixed or ss? Gear inches?
>>> What are those wheels, and especially, why? And explain radial. 2-cross
>>> rear? What is that ass hatchet? (I don't doubt you find it comfortable;
>>> I've been loving original issue Flites since 1990.) Custom decals ...???!!!
>>> And gravel tires and front rack to complete the package.
>>>
>>> The list demands explanations!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 2:06 AM Max S  wrote:
>>>
 Wow, many nice bikes. Gonna link to my Halloween Special Scary Riv...
 I've got a black stem and seatpost I might swap in for the next Halloween,
 but in the meantime, I will put back some gray-finish wheels and cranks
 back on, because gray & orange is a bit less "on the nose" :-)

 - Max "sotto voce" in A2

 https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/K9RbCHAtCzE
 [image: image.jpeg]

>>>
>>> Patrick Moore, grimly bottom-cropping in ABQ, NM
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[mbaquerizo]

the second story is an unfortunately heavy (like twice the rack below it) yepp 
adapter for my kids yepp seat. am I crazy to think people who like bikes would 
happily buy a yepp compatible nitto rack? or even surly or tubus. 

the bottom is a nitto campee. 


> On Dec 15, 2021, at 3:56 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> 
> Michael: What is that 2-story rack?
> 
>> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 1:38 PM Michael Baquerizo  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> due to covid supply chain issues and lack of funds this bike came together 
>> with a decent amount of black (maybe not as much as silver, but a mix) 
>> 
>> i ended up doing the same thing with my appaloosa as a result of liking it 
>> so much. i think i was very pro all silver at one point and was able to lax 
>> up a bit on that aesthetic.
>> 
>> you can't really see it but 
>> 
>> black kasai dyno hub
>> black deore rear hub
>> black deore rear derailleur
>> black paul thumbie
>> black and charcoal deore brake levers
>> black white industries crank arm
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[Max S]

*"Max: I beg forgiveness for using a puerile word, but that bike is neat!  
I did note the ass saver. 50 X 18 with those tires -- I'd guess 27" tall: 
75 or 76 gi? Just right for what I assume is a very light and efficient 
bike Whatzit Weigh?" *

Yep, just about 76 inch gear. Tires are Specialized 32 mm cross tubulars, 
latex tubes, so not too heavy for that size tire. The wheelset isn't much 
lighter, if at all, than my regular DA hubs with Reflex rims. A 50 mile 
ride on dirt roads around here will net only about 2,000 ft of elevation 
gain, so weight isn't a big priority. With those tires, rack, heavy bb and 
crank (by modern standards), spare tire, repair kit, full pump, lights, 
it's over 20 lbs. But the fit on the bike is good, and thanks to the wheel 
aerodynamics, I do manage a half-mph more on this than on other set-ups. 

The rear dropouts on the frame had been spread to 130 mm, so I can swap 
wheels with other bikes without too much trouble. I do have a wheel with a 
long-axled Surly fixed/fixed hub that I run sometimes, and riding fixed is 
somehow just as fast for me (but a bit more tiring). 

- Max "less whining, more fix(edgearrid)ing" in A2 

On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 2:54:49 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Garth: Either your eyes or your monitor are better than mine. When I blow 
> up the image on my *$1K hi rez 42" work monitor* I can make out a fuzzy, 
> "maybe" Selle Italia, but that's it.
>
> Max: I beg forgiveness for using a puerile word, but that bike is *neat!*  
> I did note the ass saver. 50 X 18 with those tires -- I'd guess 27" tall: 
> 75 or 76 gi? Just right for what I assume is a very light and efficient 
> bike.
>
> Whatzit Weigh?
>
> My 1999 custom Joe gofast fixie is 18 event, but with heavy pedals (DA 
> SPDs at 360 grams the pair) and heavy Phil hubs F&R, and 2 Iris cages. 
> Original edition Flite saddle,
>
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 8:01 AM Max S  wrote:
>
>> Garth is correct – Selle Italia SLR, one of the later models, 135 grams, 
>> no cutout. There's an "Ass Saver" on there. The wheels are Enve 6,7 – 60 
>> and 70 mm deep rims, front and rear, respectively, on DT Swiss 350 hubs. I 
>> was running a White Industries crank with a 50 t ring and 18 t rear cog (in 
>> aluminum) by Endless Cogs. Eriksen Ti seatpost, Ibis Ti stem. 
>>
>> - Max "the Fastest Pumpkin" in A2
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 3:56:44 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> Oo  I wanna play "name that saddle" Patrick !  
>>>
>>> If you zoom into the photo you can see at the rear of the saddle the 
>>> stylistic remnants of *Italia *, and below forward of that 3 little 
>>> symbols which spell out SLR. That'd be a Selle Italia SLR saddle . 
>>> (((  for the cookie !   
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 8:07:14 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 Max: Please explain (in excruciating detail): Fixed or ss? Gear inches? 
 What are those wheels, and especially, why? And explain radial. 2-cross 
 rear? What is that ass hatchet? (I don't doubt you find it comfortable; 
 I've been loving original issue Flites since 1990.) Custom decals 
 ...???!!! 
 And gravel tires and front rack to complete the package. 

 The list demands explanations!

 On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 2:06 AM Max S  wrote:

> Wow, many nice bikes. Gonna link to my Halloween Special Scary Riv... 
> I've got a black stem and seatpost I might swap in for the next 
> Halloween, 
> but in the meantime, I will put back some gray-finish wheels and cranks 
> back on, because gray & orange is a bit less "on the nose" :-) 
>
> - Max "sotto voce" in A2
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/K9RbCHAtCzE 
> [image: image.jpeg]
>

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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[David Person]

"Very limited black parts on the Platypus:"  I think a combination of black 
and silver look very nice on your bike.

David

On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 9:10:05 AM UTC-8 Chris Halasz wrote:

> Very limited black parts on the Platypus: Paul cantis and levers, MKS 
> XC-III pedal cages, some trim on the BxB saddlebag, and gray bar tape - and 
> that pesky dog. Saddle is Berthoud deep brown, not black. 
>
> I don't like how some black components visually wear, but like this mix, 
> and am OK with how these components will show their miles. I also like how 
> the black complements the green and cream colors. 
>
>
>
> Chris
> SB, CA 
>
> On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 1:12:47 PM UTC-8 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>
>> forgot to add this one - a favorite i found somewhere. if i recall 
>> correctly, it was a complainer on serotta forums, about riv's inability to 
>> run a business. jokes on them, these days.
>>
>> [image: IMG_1245.jpg]
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 5:17:50 PM UTC-5 Max S wrote:
>>
>>> *"Max: I beg forgiveness for using a puerile word, but that bike 
>>> is neat!  I did note the ass saver. 50 X 18 with those tires -- I'd guess 
>>> 27" tall: 75 or 76 gi? Just right for what I assume is a very light and 
>>> efficient bike Whatzit Weigh?" *
>>>
>>> Yep, just about 76 inch gear. Tires are Specialized 32 mm cross 
>>> tubulars, latex tubes, so not too heavy for that size tire. The wheelset 
>>> isn't much lighter, if at all, than my regular DA hubs with Reflex rims. A 
>>> 50 mile ride on dirt roads around here will net only about 2,000 ft of 
>>> elevation gain, so weight isn't a big priority. With those tires, rack, 
>>> heavy bb and crank (by modern standards), spare tire, repair kit, full 
>>> pump, lights, it's over 20 lbs. But the fit on the bike is good, and thanks 
>>> to the wheel aerodynamics, I do manage a half-mph more on this than on 
>>> other set-ups. 
>>>
>>> The rear dropouts on the frame had been spread to 130 mm, so I can swap 
>>> wheels with other bikes without too much trouble. I do have a wheel with a 
>>> long-axled Surly fixed/fixed hub that I run sometimes, and riding fixed is 
>>> somehow just as fast for me (but a bit more tiring). 
>>>
>>> - Max "less whining, more fix(edgearrid)ing" in A2 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 2:54:49 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 Garth: Either your eyes or your monitor are better than mine. When I 
 blow up the image on my *$1K hi rez 42" work monitor* I can make out a 
 fuzzy, "maybe" Selle Italia, but that's it.

 Max: I beg forgiveness for using a puerile word, but that bike is 
 *neat!*  I did note the ass saver. 50 X 18 with those tires -- I'd 
 guess 27" tall: 75 or 76 gi? Just right for what I assume is a very light 
 and efficient bike.

 Whatzit Weigh?

 My 1999 custom Joe gofast fixie is 18 event, but with heavy pedals (DA 
 SPDs at 360 grams the pair) and heavy Phil hubs F&R, and 2 Iris cages. 
 Original edition Flite saddle,

 On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 8:01 AM Max S  wrote:

> Garth is correct – Selle Italia SLR, one of the later models, 135 
> grams, no cutout. There's an "Ass Saver" on there. The wheels are Enve 
> 6,7 
> – 60 and 70 mm deep rims, front and rear, respectively, on DT Swiss 350 
> hubs. I was running a White Industries crank with a 50 t ring and 18 t 
> rear 
> cog (in aluminum) by Endless Cogs. Eriksen Ti seatpost, Ibis Ti stem. 
>
> - Max "the Fastest Pumpkin" in A2
>
> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 3:56:44 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>
>> Oo  I wanna play "name that saddle" Patrick !  
>>
>> If you zoom into the photo you can see at the rear of the saddle the 
>> stylistic remnants of *Italia *, and below forward of that 3 little 
>> symbols which spell out SLR. That'd be a Selle Italia SLR saddle . 
>> (((  for the cookie !   
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 8:07:14 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Max: Please explain (in excruciating detail): Fixed or ss? Gear 
>>> inches? What are those wheels, and especially, why? And explain radial. 
>>> 2-cross rear? What is that ass hatchet? (I don't doubt you find it 
>>> comfortable; I've been loving original issue Flites since 1990.) Custom 
>>> decals ...???!!! And gravel tires and front rack to complete the 
>>> package. 
>>>
>>> The list demands explanations!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 2:06 AM Max S  wrote:
>>>
 Wow, many nice bikes. Gonna link to my Halloween Special Scary 
 Riv... I've got a black stem and seatpost I might swap in for the next 
 Halloween, but in the meantime, I will put back some gray-finish 
 wheels and 
 cranks back on, because gray & orange is a bit less "on the nose" :-) 

 - Max "sotto voce" in A2

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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[Eric Marth]

I agree with David, nice selections and very neutral overall, which I think 
is a great thing. All in balance, as you say, with the paint. Nice!

On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 12:26:33 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> "Very limited black parts on the Platypus:"  I think a combination of 
> black and silver look very nice on your bike.
>
> David
>
> On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 9:10:05 AM UTC-8 Chris Halasz wrote:
>
>> Very limited black parts on the Platypus: Paul cantis and levers, MKS 
>> XC-III pedal cages, some trim on the BxB saddlebag, and gray bar tape - and 
>> that pesky dog. Saddle is Berthoud deep brown, not black. 
>>
>> I don't like how some black components visually wear, but like this mix, 
>> and am OK with how these components will show their miles. I also like how 
>> the black complements the green and cream colors. 
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris
>> SB, CA 
>>
>> On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 1:12:47 PM UTC-8 Michael Baquerizo 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> forgot to add this one - a favorite i found somewhere. if i recall 
>>> correctly, it was a complainer on serotta forums, about riv's inability to 
>>> run a business. jokes on them, these days.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_1245.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 5:17:50 PM UTC-5 Max S wrote:
>>>
 *"Max: I beg forgiveness for using a puerile word, but that bike 
 is neat!  I did note the ass saver. 50 X 18 with those tires -- I'd guess 
 27" tall: 75 or 76 gi? Just right for what I assume is a very light and 
 efficient bike Whatzit Weigh?" *

 Yep, just about 76 inch gear. Tires are Specialized 32 mm cross 
 tubulars, latex tubes, so not too heavy for that size tire. The wheelset 
 isn't much lighter, if at all, than my regular DA hubs with Reflex rims. A 
 50 mile ride on dirt roads around here will net only about 2,000 ft of 
 elevation gain, so weight isn't a big priority. With those tires, rack, 
 heavy bb and crank (by modern standards), spare tire, repair kit, full 
 pump, lights, it's over 20 lbs. But the fit on the bike is good, and 
 thanks 
 to the wheel aerodynamics, I do manage a half-mph more on this than on 
 other set-ups. 

 The rear dropouts on the frame had been spread to 130 mm, so I can swap 
 wheels with other bikes without too much trouble. I do have a wheel with a 
 long-axled Surly fixed/fixed hub that I run sometimes, and riding fixed is 
 somehow just as fast for me (but a bit more tiring). 

 - Max "less whining, more fix(edgearrid)ing" in A2 

 On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 2:54:49 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Garth: Either your eyes or your monitor are better than mine. When I 
> blow up the image on my *$1K hi rez 42" work monitor* I can make out 
> a fuzzy, "maybe" Selle Italia, but that's it.
>
> Max: I beg forgiveness for using a puerile word, but that bike is 
> *neat!*  I did note the ass saver. 50 X 18 with those tires -- I'd 
> guess 27" tall: 75 or 76 gi? Just right for what I assume is a very light 
> and efficient bike.
>
> Whatzit Weigh?
>
> My 1999 custom Joe gofast fixie is 18 event, but with heavy pedals (DA 
> SPDs at 360 grams the pair) and heavy Phil hubs F&R, and 2 Iris cages. 
> Original edition Flite saddle,
>
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 8:01 AM Max S  wrote:
>
>> Garth is correct – Selle Italia SLR, one of the later models, 135 
>> grams, no cutout. There's an "Ass Saver" on there. The wheels are Enve 
>> 6,7 
>> – 60 and 70 mm deep rims, front and rear, respectively, on DT Swiss 350 
>> hubs. I was running a White Industries crank with a 50 t ring and 18 t 
>> rear 
>> cog (in aluminum) by Endless Cogs. Eriksen Ti seatpost, Ibis Ti stem. 
>>
>> - Max "the Fastest Pumpkin" in A2
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 3:56:44 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> Oo  I wanna play "name that saddle" Patrick !  
>>>
>>> If you zoom into the photo you can see at the rear of the saddle the 
>>> stylistic remnants of *Italia *, and below forward of that 3 little 
>>> symbols which spell out SLR. That'd be a Selle Italia SLR saddle . 
>>> (((  for the cookie !   
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 8:07:14 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Max: Please explain (in excruciating detail): Fixed or ss? Gear 
 inches? What are those wheels, and especially, why? And explain 
 radial. 
 2-cross rear? What is that ass hatchet? (I don't doubt you find it 
 comfortable; I've been loving original issue Flites since 1990.) 
 Custom 
 decals ...???!!! And gravel tires and front rack to complete the 
 package. 

 The list demands explanations!

 On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 2:06 AM Max S  wrote:

> Wow, many nice