Re: [RBW] What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread robert zeidler
I already hold the patent on those functions. So if you mention them again,
I'll have your legs broken.

On Wednesday, May 9, 2012, Smitty <54ca...@gmail.com> wrote:

> My last comment was kind of snarky, so in an effort to redeem myself...
> here's an actual sincere response...
>
> I went with 2TT on a whim. I was placing my order on the phone and Grant
> said something like "You can get 2tt on a 65 if you want." And I said
> something like "uuu... sure but only if I get a 2nd head badge
> too." He said sure and I think I heard him smile over the phone.
>
> 2 things I've found about the under tube that I really like... it provides
> a place to rest the palm of my hand when I shift (DT shifters). And it
> gives a solid place to lift/shoulder the bike even with a pump under the
> upper top tube.
>
> This is sort of anecdotal and its just an "n" of 1 so it might just be
> wishful thinking on my part... I've heard hilsen owners talk about their
> bikes being flexy when carrying a load. I've had weekend size loads on my
> 2tt and it was solid. Mine got noticeably squirely when I had 60 pounds on
> the rear rack and 20 or so on the front but that was more me loading it up
> just to see what happened. Unloaded, I notice no stiffness difference
> between my 2tt and a friend's 1tt of the same size. But I buy into the idea
> that it adds stiffness when the bike is loaded.
>
> --Andy
>
> On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 7:35:33 AM UTC-7, Kayakguy wrote:
>>
>> I haven't been to the Rivendell site for awhile and I see all these
>> double tubes. I looked for a post on here or on the site but found
>> nothing.
>>
>> Is this standard now? I see pictures of the same model with double and
>> single tubes.
>>
>> Thanks for filling me in.
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Re: [RBW] What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread BSWP
A great thing about a 2TT bike is how easily one can mount two pumps. Or, 
fit a trapezoidal bag in the space between the 2TT, for carrying cucumbers 
and salami.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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Re: [RBW] What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread robert zeidler
It's my fondest hope that, if asked, GP will say, "...because I felt like
it".

On Wednesday, May 9, 2012, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:

> Z-Man: the line about logic/futility gave me a good chuckle. As a bicycle
> professional, who frequently tries new bikes, new component setups, new
> accessories, etc, I often have people ask me "why did you do it THAT way?"
> as if they expect a sophisticated response that will be logically
> infallible and revolutionary to all cycling wisdom hereafter. "I just kinda
> like it", or "I like to try new things", are disappointing responses to
> those who prefer rigid categories of everything.
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Re: [RBW] What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Z-Man: the line about logic/futility gave me a good chuckle. As a bicycle 
professional, who frequently tries new bikes, new component setups, new 
accessories, etc, I often have people ask me "why did you do it THAT way?" as 
if they expect a sophisticated response that will be logically infallible and 
revolutionary to all cycling wisdom hereafter. "I just kinda like it", or "I 
like to try new things", are disappointing responses to those who prefer rigid 
categories of everything.

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Re: [RBW] What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread robert zeidler
I think that trying to apply logic to it is an exercise in futility.

And I like that.

On Wednesday, May 9, 2012, Peter Morgano wrote:

> Well I know there is no double TT on the Atlantis because it only goes so
> big, after that you are in Bomba/Hunqa country. The Sam's get double TT at
> what I would describe as a medium size, the 56 but the Hilsen doesnst go
> double TT until the huge sizes so depending on your size you might be stuck
> looking at the higher end stuff or hell go Yves Gomez and no TT!
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Kayakguy 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> Well I guess it has been awhile since I have been there. I have been
>> enjoying riding my Rambouillet too much to feel the need to shop.
>> Probably should have spent less time riding and more time surfing.
>>
>>  Now I kind of want an Atlantis, or maybe a Hilborn or I don't know. A
>> light tourer I guess for commuting and dreaming about longer rides.
>> That way I can strip the rack off the Rambouillet and keep her slim.
>>
>> On May 9, 11:06 am, Peter Morgano > 'cvml', 'uscpeter11...@gmail.com');>>
>> wrote:
>> > Uhh, not to be a jerk but when was the last time you were on the site? I
>> > believe this has been the norm for at least the 4 years I have been
>> poking
>> > around.  You could call RBW and see if they have your size in a singe
>> TT,
>> > the old attic is full of surprises.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Kayakguy 
>> > >
>> wrote:
>> > > I knew about the Bombadil having a double, but I gues you are saying
>> > > all the "medium sizes like 58 or 60 would still be single? I hope
>> > > cause I don't much dig the double look.
>> >
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