Re: {Disarmed} Re: [TANKS] Re: Gluing PVC to metal

[OdysseySlipways]

 
 
In a message dated 11/29/2008 2:12:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
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Try  sanding or filing the surfaces to make them rougher. It makes the 
adhesion  work better.


I'm planning on it
 
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[TANKS] Re: Metal Shaping

[Michael Clark]

I've been reading the forums at mechmate and it seems a 5x5 sized unit is
very doable. It might be interesting to make a flat pack tank.

Sadly, it doesn't look like there is much price difference in the sizes. The
big ticket items are the controllers and motors.


On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Paul Hilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  This makes it even more interesting!  I hadn't thought of using the
> router for this purpose.  Aluminum molds would work well for resin casting.
> Aluminum masters could be cut for making molds of high temp silicon for
> casting in zinc or tin alloys.  I suppose a smaller machine could be
> built
>
> Paul H.
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Paul Hilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* rctankcombat@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2008 3:13 PM
> *Subject:* [TANKS] Re: Metal Shaping
>
> This might be interesting as well.  Didn't look at it real close, still it
> caught my interest.
>
> Paul H.
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Michael Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* rctankcombat@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Friday, November 28, 2008 7:46 PM
> *Subject:* [TANKS] Re: Metal Shaping
>
> Would you believe they have a Waterjet cutter in our manufacturing
> department, but they deem making toy tanks as being a waste of resources?
> Philistines.
>
>
> To get to the point of this resurrection, I've been looking at DIY CNC
> machines and I have found the Mechmate http://www.mechmate.com
>
> Free plans to download. Some weird clauses in the EULA, but the design
> looks decent, and will be sturdier and more professional looking then other
> plans that use MDF.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Aahz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Michael Clark wrote:
>> > It looks like it is the Backend bit of a CNC machine. You supply the
>> > frontend
>> >
>> > Price seems to be about 12 grand. I wonder if just upgrading to a
>> > laser cutter wouldn't be a better choice.
>>
>>Considering the quantity of parts we might need as a whole I think
>> we would be better served  by finding a Tech college nearby and getting
>> them to use their waterjet. For those of you in the Pacific Northwest
>> that would  be Vashon Technical.
>>
>> Aahz.
>>
>>
>>
> >
>

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[TANKS] Re: Metal Shaping

[Paul Hilton]

Oops

http://www.oneoceankayaks.com/madvac/first_CNC_cuts.htm
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Hilton 
  To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 3:33 PM
  Subject: [TANKS] Re: Metal Shaping


  This makes it even more interesting!  I hadn't thought of using the router 
for this purpose.  Aluminum molds would work well for resin casting.  Aluminum 
masters could be cut for making molds of high temp silicon for casting in zinc 
or tin alloys.  I suppose a smaller machine could be built

  Paul H.
- Original Message - 
From: Paul Hilton 
To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 3:13 PM
Subject: [TANKS] Re: Metal Shaping


This might be interesting as well.  Didn't look at it real close, still it 
caught my interest.

Paul H.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Clark 
  To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 7:46 PM
  Subject: [TANKS] Re: Metal Shaping


  Would you believe they have a Waterjet cutter in our manufacturing 
department, but they deem making toy tanks as being a waste of resources? 
Philistines. 


  To get to the point of this resurrection, I've been looking at DIY CNC 
machines and I have found the Mechmate http://www.mechmate.com

  Free plans to download. Some weird clauses in the EULA, but the design 
looks decent, and will be sturdier and more professional looking then other 
plans that use MDF. 



  On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Aahz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Michael Clark wrote:
> It looks like it is the Backend bit of a CNC machine. You supply the
> frontend
>
> Price seems to be about 12 grand. I wonder if just upgrading to a
> laser cutter wouldn't be a better choice.


   Considering the quantity of parts we might need as a whole I think
we would be better served  by finding a Tech college nearby and getting
them to use their waterjet. For those of you in the Pacific Northwest
that would  be Vashon Technical.

Aahz.





  

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[TANKS] Re: Metal Shaping

[Paul Hilton]

This makes it even more interesting!  I hadn't thought of using the router for 
this purpose.  Aluminum molds would work well for resin casting.  Aluminum 
masters could be cut for making molds of high temp silicon for casting in zinc 
or tin alloys.  I suppose a smaller machine could be built

Paul H.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Hilton 
  To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 3:13 PM
  Subject: [TANKS] Re: Metal Shaping


  This might be interesting as well.  Didn't look at it real close, still it 
caught my interest.

  Paul H.
- Original Message - 
From: Michael Clark 
To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 7:46 PM
Subject: [TANKS] Re: Metal Shaping


Would you believe they have a Waterjet cutter in our manufacturing 
department, but they deem making toy tanks as being a waste of resources? 
Philistines. 


To get to the point of this resurrection, I've been looking at DIY CNC 
machines and I have found the Mechmate http://www.mechmate.com

Free plans to download. Some weird clauses in the EULA, but the design 
looks decent, and will be sturdier and more professional looking then other 
plans that use MDF. 



On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Aahz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


  Michael Clark wrote:
  > It looks like it is the Backend bit of a CNC machine. You supply the
  > frontend
  >
  > Price seems to be about 12 grand. I wonder if just upgrading to a
  > laser cutter wouldn't be a better choice.


 Considering the quantity of parts we might need as a whole I think
  we would be better served  by finding a Tech college nearby and getting
  them to use their waterjet. For those of you in the Pacific Northwest
  that would  be Vashon Technical.

  Aahz.







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[TANKS] Re: Metal Shaping

[Paul Hilton]

This might be interesting as well.  Didn't look at it real close, still it 
caught my interest.

Paul H.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Clark 
  To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 7:46 PM
  Subject: [TANKS] Re: Metal Shaping


  Would you believe they have a Waterjet cutter in our manufacturing 
department, but they deem making toy tanks as being a waste of resources? 
Philistines. 


  To get to the point of this resurrection, I've been looking at DIY CNC 
machines and I have found the Mechmate http://www.mechmate.com

  Free plans to download. Some weird clauses in the EULA, but the design looks 
decent, and will be sturdier and more professional looking then other plans 
that use MDF. 



  On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Aahz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Michael Clark wrote:
> It looks like it is the Backend bit of a CNC machine. You supply the
> frontend
>
> Price seems to be about 12 grand. I wonder if just upgrading to a
> laser cutter wouldn't be a better choice.


   Considering the quantity of parts we might need as a whole I think
we would be better served  by finding a Tech college nearby and getting
them to use their waterjet. For those of you in the Pacific Northwest
that would  be Vashon Technical.

Aahz.






  

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Re: {Disarmed} Re: [TANKS] Re: Gluing PVC to metal

[Michael Clark]

Try sanding or filing the surfaces to make them rougher. It makes the
adhesion work better.

On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Paul Hilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Chris,
>
> Sometimes I can get JB Weld to stick to things and sometimes I can't.  RTV
> sticks to damned near everything.  I've used it for thermesets, wood,
> metals, ceramics, glass.  It even works on styrofoam!  Surfaces need to
> be oil free and clean.  It's also cheap, less than half the price of
> epoxies.  It's flexible and doesn't hold paint well so it's no good for
> exposed seams.  Good luck with the JB, great stuff if you can get it to
> stick.
>
> Paul H.
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *To:* rctankcombat@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Friday, November 28, 2008 6:47 PM
> *Subject:* [TANKS] Re: Gluing PVC to metal
>
> well, i hope JB weld works as that's what i grabbed at Home Depot today
> along with a length of 1" PVC pipe (just in cast i screw up this tank
> barrel's gluing) and another 1" coupler so i can try to make the flash bake
> in the next few days
>
> Chris,
> Odyssey Slipways 
>
>
>
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{Disarmed} Re: [TANKS] Re: Gluing PVC to metal

[Paul Hilton]

Chris,

Sometimes I can get JB Weld to stick to things and sometimes I can't.  RTV 
sticks to damned near everything.  I've used it for thermesets, wood, metals, 
ceramics, glass.  It even works on styrofoam!  Surfaces need to be oil free 
and clean.  It's also cheap, less than half the price of epoxies.  It's 
flexible and doesn't hold paint well so it's no good for exposed seams.  Good 
luck with the JB, great stuff if you can get it to stick.

Paul H.
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 6:47 PM
  Subject: [TANKS] Re: Gluing PVC to metal


  well, i hope JB weld works as that's what i grabbed at Home Depot today along 
with a length of 1" PVC pipe (just in cast i screw up this tank barrel's 
gluing) and another 1" coupler so i can try to make the flash bake in the next 
few days

  Chris,
  Odyssey Slipways





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[TANKS] Re: does the added length of the tank's barrel effect the shot?

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I have seen some paintball markers available with rifled barrels. I
think tippmann have a patent on one. I think they also used to do a
range of sniping barrels that are stupidly long. If they still do you
could use one of those and ditch the outer barrel completely for the
sake of more accurate shots.
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