Re: [TANKS] New School vs Old School

[OdysseySlipways]

i think some of it is about the way we like to look at other things. I  
always liked the Tiger, other tanks that i like i would consider would be  the 
Elefant, Stug, S-tank,  Hungarian Zrinyi (40/43M) assault gun, A7V,  Hetzer, 
ASU-85, M41 bulldog (and what ever that huge thing is, with 4 sets  of 
tracks). I don't know for sure what attracts me to them, it could be that  they 
are more distinct in appearance - like cars, modern cars all  look the same, 
but the older ones .
 
Chris

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RE: [TANKS] New School vs Old School

[Doug Conn]

Here are my builds and reasons:

 

"Rocket Man": I wanted to build an armored car, and the HumVee had simply
lines.

"Bad Kitty": Joe had a nice aluminum lower hull for sale that was made for a
Tiger. I toyed with the idea of building something different from it, but in
the end decided it was better to stick with the original design. I'm not
that big a Tiger fan, but they are boxy and pretty easy to build. Probably a
good decision for my first tank.

"Bofors Gun": I wanted an artillery piece with simulated handwheels for
aiming. I also wanted something great looking that the GI-Joes could ride
on.

"Red Star": Still under construction. I've always thought the T-72 was one
of the coolest looking tanks ever. Not so different from the JS-3. I wanted
to try out a lofting technique for making a fiberglass mold for the rounded
turret.

 

-  Doug

 

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On Behalf Of Derek Engelhaupt
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:04 PM
To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [TANKS] New School vs Old School

 

I may someday build a modern tank, but if I do I would like to do it as more
of a scale model and not a paintball target.  I chose the KV-2, the
Sturmtiger and the M113 out of a personal love for all of the those vehicles
and the fact that they were more simple designs to build.  Modern tanks have
all kinds of crazy angles and compound curves.  I would prefer a modern tank
over a WWII tank, but only if I could go all out on the modern tank.  JMHO.

 

Derek

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Michael Butts 
wrote:

The Iosif (Josif) Stalin 3 (IS-3 or JS-3 and IS-3M variant) will be my
build. It's hemispherical turret and crazy hull lines are iconicly
Russian/Soviet. It really shocked the world with its debut. I think it has
very aestheticly pleasing lines as well. Many might disagree with me on that
point. Though difficult to model I imagine an Abrams or its peers might be
equally if not more difficult and I just don't like the way most of them
look. 

Mike B




On Aug 23, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Aaron  wrote:

Funny how I was going to start this conversation topic and all of a sudden
some one comes out saying they are going to build a modern MBT. But this is
my question.

 

Why are the overwelming majority of our tanks of the WW2 era and not of the
modern design? What drives most of us to model after older and inferior
armor instead of the newer and superior breeds?

 

I chose an M4 Sherman variant as my own despite the obvious flaws and
limitations it possesed in history. I did so for a few reasons

- It had simple lines

- It was iconic American

- It for some reason spoke to me in a way that no other had

That may sound funny, but I wasnt really overly interested in the biggest
and the baddest. I was drawn instead to the over worked and under powered
machine that did by sheer determination.

 

What are your thoughts? What made you choose yours?

 

Aaron F

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Re: [TANKS] New School vs Old School

[D]

I'm thinking of doing a maus for my first tank as it has great size and 
straight lines so that I can fix up my mistakes.i first have to read the rules 
and see if I can use it in battled as the tank was not used in any battles and 
only one was produced and a haul was made. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-08-23, at 4:03 PM, Derek Engelhaupt  wrote:

> I may someday build a modern tank, but if I do I would like to do it as more 
> of a scale model and not a paintball target.  I chose the KV-2, the 
> Sturmtiger and the M113 out of a personal love for all of the those vehicles 
> and the fact that they were more simple designs to build.  Modern tanks have 
> all kinds of crazy angles and compound curves.  I would prefer a modern tank 
> over a WWII tank, but only if I could go all out on the modern tank.  JMHO.
>  
> Derek
> 
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Michael Butts  wrote:
> The Iosif (Josif) Stalin 3 (IS-3 or JS-3 and IS-3M variant) will be my build. 
> It's hemispherical turret and crazy hull lines are iconicly Russian/Soviet. 
> It really shocked the world with its debut. I think it has very aestheticly 
> pleasing lines as well. Many might disagree with me on that point. Though 
> difficult to model I imagine an Abrams or its peers might be equally if not 
> more difficult and I just don't like the way most of them look. 
> Mike B
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 23, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Aaron  wrote:
> 
>> Funny how I was going to start this conversation topic and all of a sudden 
>> some one comes out saying they are going to build a modern MBT. But this is 
>> my question.
>>  
>> Why are the overwelming majority of our tanks of the WW2 era and not of the 
>> modern design? What drives most of us to model after older and inferior 
>> armor instead of the newer and superior breeds?
>>  
>> I chose an M4 Sherman variant as my own despite the obvious flaws and 
>> limitations it possesed in history. I did so for a few reasons
>> - It had simple lines
>> - It was iconic American
>> - It for some reason spoke to me in a way that no other had
>> That may sound funny, but I wasnt really overly interested in the biggest 
>> and the baddest. I was drawn instead to the over worked and under powered 
>> machine that did by sheer determination.
>>  
>> What are your thoughts? What made you choose yours?
>>  
>> Aaron F
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Re: [TANKS] New School vs Old School

[Derek Engelhaupt]

I may someday build a modern tank, but if I do I would like to do it as
more of a scale model and not a paintball target.  I chose the KV-2, the
Sturmtiger and the M113 out of a personal love for all of the those
vehicles and the fact that they were more simple designs to build.  Modern
tanks have all kinds of crazy angles and compound curves.  I would prefer a
modern tank over a WWII tank, but only if I could go all out on the modern
tank.  JMHO.

Derek

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Michael Butts wrote:

>  The Iosif (Josif) Stalin 3 (IS-3 or JS-3 and IS-3M variant) will be my
> build. It's hemispherical turret and crazy hull lines are iconicly
> Russian/Soviet. It really shocked the world with its debut. I think it has
> very aestheticly pleasing lines as well. Many might disagree with me on
> that point. Though difficult to model I imagine an Abrams or its peers
> might be equally if not more difficult and I just don't like the way most
> of them look.
> Mike B
>
>
>
> On Aug 23, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Aaron  wrote:
>
>   Funny how I was going to start this conversation topic and all of a
> sudden some one comes out saying they are going to build a modern MBT. But
> this is my question.
>
> Why are the overwelming majority of our tanks of the WW2 era and not of
> the modern design? What drives most of us to model after older and inferior
> armor instead of the newer and superior breeds?
>
> I chose an M4 Sherman variant as my own despite the obvious flaws and
> limitations it possesed in history. I did so for a few reasons
> - It had simple lines
> - It was iconic American
> - It for some reason spoke to me in a way that no other had
> That may sound funny, but I wasnt really overly interested in the biggest
> and the baddest. I was drawn instead to the over worked and under powered
> machine that did by sheer determination.
>
> What are your thoughts? What made you choose yours?
>
> Aaron F
>
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Re: [TANKS] New School vs Old School

[Michael Butts]

The Iosif (Josif) Stalin 3 (IS-3 or JS-3 and IS-3M variant) will be my build. 
It's hemispherical turret and crazy hull lines are iconicly Russian/Soviet. It 
really shocked the world with its debut. I think it has very aestheticly 
pleasing lines as well. Many might disagree with me on that point. Though 
difficult to model I imagine an Abrams or its peers might be equally if not 
more difficult and I just don't like the way most of them look. 
Mike B



On Aug 23, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Aaron  wrote:

> Funny how I was going to start this conversation topic and all of a sudden 
> some one comes out saying they are going to build a modern MBT. But this is 
> my question.
>  
> Why are the overwelming majority of our tanks of the WW2 era and not of the 
> modern design? What drives most of us to model after older and inferior armor 
> instead of the newer and superior breeds?
>  
> I chose an M4 Sherman variant as my own despite the obvious flaws and 
> limitations it possesed in history. I did so for a few reasons
> - It had simple lines
> - It was iconic American
> - It for some reason spoke to me in a way that no other had
> That may sound funny, but I wasnt really overly interested in the biggest and 
> the baddest. I was drawn instead to the over worked and under powered machine 
> that did by sheer determination.
>  
> What are your thoughts? What made you choose yours?
>  
> Aaron F
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Re: [TANKS] New School vs Old School

[Paul-André Chapdelaine]

Two things sent me towards the Leopard 2:

 1- since it's my first time modeling something of the sort from scratch I
was looking at simple lines and shapes.  There are lot of superb older
models that have a the look and the history that make them great... But
since the internals are pretty much all the same and we don't scale the
performence to match the original, old or new will theorically perform the
same in the field.  So I chose one that looks a bit easier, straighter
lines, more room to works inside.

 2- Since I may drive down from Canada and kick you butts I thought it
would look nice to have something the actual Canadian army uses.   Hehehe,
seriously, with point #1 in mind, I looked at what the Canadians are or
have been using and the Leopard 2 sounded like a good choice.   So the
Canadian will be roaming around with a Canadian tank...

PA




2012/8/23 Aaron 

> Funny how I was going to start this conversation topic and all of a sudden
> some one comes out saying they are going to build a modern MBT. But this is
> my question.
>
> Why are the overwelming majority of our tanks of the WW2 era and not of
> the modern design? What drives most of us to model after older and inferior
> armor instead of the newer and superior breeds?
>
> I chose an M4 Sherman variant as my own despite the obvious flaws and
> limitations it possesed in history. I did so for a few reasons
> - It had simple lines
> - It was iconic American
> - It for some reason spoke to me in a way that no other had
> That may sound funny, but I wasnt really overly interested in the biggest
> and the baddest. I was drawn instead to the over worked and under powered
> machine that did by sheer determination.
>
> What are your thoughts? What made you choose yours?
>
> Aaron F
>
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[TANKS] New School vs Old School

[Aaron]

Funny how I was going to start this conversation topic and all of a sudden 
some one comes out saying they are going to build a modern MBT. But this is 
my question.
 
Why are the overwelming majority of our tanks of the WW2 era and not of the 
modern design? What drives most of us to model after older and inferior 
armor instead of the newer and superior breeds?
 
I chose an M4 Sherman variant as my own despite the obvious flaws and 
limitations it possesed in history. I did so for a few reasons
- It had simple lines
- It was iconic American
- It for some reason spoke to me in a way that no other had
That may sound funny, but I wasnt really overly interested in the biggest 
and the baddest. I was drawn instead to the over worked and under powered 
machine that did by sheer determination.
 
What are your thoughts? What made you choose yours?
 
Aaron F

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[TANKS] Re: Hi from Montréal

[Aaron]

Welcome Canada,
 Glad to hear you are joining us. Always happy to welcome more to the 
community. Welcome. Leopard IIs are nice and I personaly am excited to see 
another build. Be sure to keep us informed with pictures and comments. Here 
is wishing you the best.
 
Aaron F
 
 
 
On Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:48:38 AM UTC-7, Paul-Andre Chapdelaine wrote:

>
>  Hi there everyone! 
>
>  I stumbled on your group a few weeks back and got pretty interrested in 
> the hobby, the way you guys do it, the collaboration, the end result, the 
> simple prospect of hours of fun and hard work in the shop followed by 
> some remote controled paintball tank games in the field. 
>
>  For a little about me, I'm in Montr�al, Canada.  I have no military 
> experience like some of you have but I do hunt large game and play 
> paintball as well.  Recent medical conditions have forced me to stop 
> active paintballing but the prospect of a more complex, developped, 
> remote controlled activity with hours of handy work is appealing.  I 
> needed something to occupy my hands and my mind outside of work :-) 
>
>  I'm thinking about a Leopard 2, already bought a Tamiya 1:35 model to 
> have a reference in scale.  Chose this one, question of keeping a little 
> nationalism with my fellow Canadian soldiers who use them. 
>
>  I'm currently gathering ideas and informations, as much as I can from 
> reading your exchanges, here and also from the website.  How to build or 
> what to buy for tracks.  Motors, etc... 
>
>  Someone mentionned looking at Intralox tracks, I visited their website 
> but didn't find exactly what would be required in 85mm or so, tracks.  If 
> one of us contacted them and got more information, availability, pricing 
> etc... I'd be interrested. 
>
>  So far I'm thinking 12" aluminium, slim, lazy-suzan for turret support 
> and rotation, Tippmann 98 I already have as paintball marker... I'm also 
> thinking of a mechanical way to keep all the electronics in the hull and 
> have a dumb, fully 360� capable turret.  But I'm sure I will learn a lot 
> as you guys did, when I begin putting the things together for real. 
>
>  It's fun and often amazing reading you and watching what you've come up 
> with... I hope I'll be able to show up eventually with my own tank on the 
> field. 
>  Any stories about crossing the border with an RC tank in the trunk?  :-) 
>
>
> PA Chapdelaine 
> Montr�al, QC, Canada 
>

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[TANKS] Hi from Montréal

[Paul-Andre Chapdelaine]

 Hi there everyone!

 I stumbled on your group a few weeks back and got pretty interrested in
the hobby, the way you guys do it, the collaboration, the end result, the
simple prospect of hours of fun and hard work in the shop followed by
some remote controled paintball tank games in the field.

 For a little about me, I'm in Montréal, Canada.  I have no military
experience like some of you have but I do hunt large game and play
paintball as well.  Recent medical conditions have forced me to stop
active paintballing but the prospect of a more complex, developped,
remote controlled activity with hours of handy work is appealing.  I
needed something to occupy my hands and my mind outside of work :-)

 I'm thinking about a Leopard 2, already bought a Tamiya 1:35 model to
have a reference in scale.  Chose this one, question of keeping a little
nationalism with my fellow Canadian soldiers who use them.

 I'm currently gathering ideas and informations, as much as I can from
reading your exchanges, here and also from the website.  How to build or
what to buy for tracks.  Motors, etc...

 Someone mentionned looking at Intralox tracks, I visited their website
but didn't find exactly what would be required in 85mm or so, tracks.  If
one of us contacted them and got more information, availability, pricing
etc... I'd be interrested.

 So far I'm thinking 12" aluminium, slim, lazy-suzan for turret support
and rotation, Tippmann 98 I already have as paintball marker... I'm also
thinking of a mechanical way to keep all the electronics in the hull and
have a dumb, fully 360° capable turret.  But I'm sure I will learn a lot
as you guys did, when I begin putting the things together for real.

 It's fun and often amazing reading you and watching what you've come up
with... I hope I'll be able to show up eventually with my own tank on the
field.
 Any stories about crossing the border with an RC tank in the trunk?  :-)


PA Chapdelaine
Montréal, QC, Canada

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