[TANKS] Re: Countdown Day 8
What chance is a poor half blind, undernourished Englishman ever going to have in the wilds of the Americas ? In the UK if you remember your transmitter you have done considerable preparation. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TANKS] Re: Battery find
Max discharging current : 30 Amps. If you happen to pull more than 30 amps total the battery will shut down on you. Your going to want to make sure running both drive motors doesnt pull more than that... On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 7:56 AM, TyngTech steve...@gmail.com wrote: I would say that on this unit, the BMS is integral to the case. I don't see any connectors or wiring that would indicate an external BMS unlike this sellers 15AH solution. http://www.ebay.com/itm/24V-15AH-LiFePo4-battery-Lithium-Electric-Bicycle-Scooter-Rechargeable-Battery-/221280643607?pt=US_Rechargeable_Batterieshash=item33855aaa17 Steve On Friday, September 20, 2013 4:52:59 AM UTC-4, Neil Rochford wrote: Cant grumble at the price, I`ve been looking at something like this for my e-bike that I can also use in my tank. Im just a little concerned about reliability of a technology I dont understand, Does the BMS come part of the battery box ( integrity built in ) or does it require finding a home in the tank somewhere ?. Think how much weight would 2 X 12v SLA 20AH be ? compare that to 4.8kg wonderful stuff imo.but remember I know nothing 8) Neil On Thursday, September 19, 2013 8:59:16 PM UTC-7, tan...@gmail.com wrote: What do you guys think of this one? Kind of a nice setup with a voltmeter, on/off switch, quick disconnects, charging port, and a charger. All in a nice neat package. I'm looking at it for the KV-2 so it will fit in that tank. It's about 7x3x10 from my quick calculations. http://www.ebay.com/itm/**321207262810?ssPageName=STRK:** MEWAX:VRI_trksid=p3984.m1423.**l2661http://www.ebay.com/itm/321207262810?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:VRI_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2661 Derek -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TANKS] Re: Countdown Day 8
^^ Thats ok, you can do what the English always do in times of adversity; call on us Canadians :) Except I wont have a working tank until next spring. On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:05 AM, Neil Rochford funkyne...@ntlworld.comwrote: What chance is a poor half blind, undernourished Englishman ever going to have in the wilds of the Americas ? In the UK if you remember your transmitter you have done considerable preparation. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TANKS] Re: Battery find
Under normal conditions the motors don't pull 30 amps, but I have blown a 30 amp fuse on the Sturmtiger using the same motors. 18AH batteries are sufficient using SLAs for most tanks. I'm just really not sure about what size LIFEPO4 battery pack I should use. I was demonstrating the KV-2 to some people that visited us and the two 7AH batteries got really hot. One was so hot that it started to bulge so I really need to find a sufficient battery pack for this beast. I was thinking that the 20AH packs would be sufficient to power it. Problem with going over 20AH is price. Derek On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 7:30 AM, isaac goldman panthergol...@gmail.comwrote: Max discharging current : 30 Amps. If you happen to pull more than 30 amps total the battery will shut down on you. Your going to want to make sure running both drive motors doesnt pull more than that... On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 7:56 AM, TyngTech steve...@gmail.com wrote: I would say that on this unit, the BMS is integral to the case. I don't see any connectors or wiring that would indicate an external BMS unlike this sellers 15AH solution. http://www.ebay.com/itm/24V-15AH-LiFePo4-battery-Lithium-Electric-Bicycle-Scooter-Rechargeable-Battery-/221280643607?pt=US_Rechargeable_Batterieshash=item33855aaa17 Steve On Friday, September 20, 2013 4:52:59 AM UTC-4, Neil Rochford wrote: Cant grumble at the price, I`ve been looking at something like this for my e-bike that I can also use in my tank. Im just a little concerned about reliability of a technology I dont understand, Does the BMS come part of the battery box ( integrity built in ) or does it require finding a home in the tank somewhere ?. Think how much weight would 2 X 12v SLA 20AH be ? compare that to 4.8kg wonderful stuff imo.but remember I know nothing 8) Neil On Thursday, September 19, 2013 8:59:16 PM UTC-7, tan...@gmail.comwrote: What do you guys think of this one? Kind of a nice setup with a voltmeter, on/off switch, quick disconnects, charging port, and a charger. All in a nice neat package. I'm looking at it for the KV-2 so it will fit in that tank. It's about 7x3x10 from my quick calculations. http://www.ebay.com/itm/**321207262810?ssPageName=STRK:** MEWAX:VRI_trksid=p3984.m1423.**l2661http://www.ebay.com/itm/321207262810?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:VRI_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2661 Derek -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TANKS] Re: Battery find
A realtively good cost for the 20Ah LiFE cells can be found at http://www.batteryspace.com/LiFePO4-Prismatic-Box-Battery-12.8V-20Ah-256Wh-10C-rate-without-PCM.aspx. The plastic case contains four 20Ah cells and does not come with a battery management system. Many guys in the model warship world are using these cells with a simple balancer found at http://www.batteryspace.com/Smart-LED-Balance-Module-for-3.2V-LFP-Cell-with-250mA-Balance-Current.aspx. One balancer across each cell helps keep the cells balanced to each other without limiting the output current. The cells themselves are good for a continuous 200 amp draw. I switched my combat ships to these cells (and the Headway cylindrical 10ah cells for smaller ships) a couple years ago and have never looked back. Half the weight and more capacity than a similir sized SLA, longer cycle life, and they don't dump voltage under load. My ships can battle all day on one charge ... heck, I don't even take a charger out to the pond anymore. Wish I could make it up for the upcoming battle. T81 is still awaiting its time on the building schedule to get remotered. SV15 is even further down on the schedule requiring a total rebuild from the suspension up. Lastly the semi-secrete tank project is stalled as other higher priority projects compete for time. Still, the goal is to have all three assets operational by the 2014 Spring Battle. :) Mike M From: Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [TANKS] Re: Battery find Under normal conditions the motors don't pull 30 amps, but I have blown a 30 amp fuse on the Sturmtiger using the same motors. 18AH batteries are sufficient using SLAs for most tanks. I'm just really not sure about what size LIFEPO4 battery pack I should use. I was demonstrating the KV-2 to some people that visited us and the two 7AH batteries got really hot. One was so hot that it started to bulge so I really need to find a sufficient battery pack for this beast. I was thinking that the 20AH packs would be sufficient to power it. Problem with going over 20AH is price. Derek On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 7:30 AM, isaac goldman panthergol...@gmail.com wrote: Max discharging current : 30 Amps. If you happen to pull more than 30 amps total the battery will shut down on you. Your going to want to make sure running both drive motors doesnt pull more than that... On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 7:56 AM, TyngTech steve...@gmail.com wrote: I would say that on this unit, the BMS is integral to the case. I don't see any connectors or wiring that would indicate an external BMS unlike this sellers 15AH solution. http://www.ebay.com/itm/24V-15AH-LiFePo4-battery-Lithium-Electric-Bicycle-Scooter-Rechargeable-Battery-/221280643607?pt=US_Rechargeable_Batterieshash=item33855aaa17 Steve On Friday, September 20, 2013 4:52:59 AM UTC-4, Neil Rochford wrote: Cant grumble at the price, I`ve been looking at something like this for my e-bike that I can also use in my tank. Im just a little concerned about reliability of a technology I dont understand, Does the BMS come part of the battery box ( integrity built in ) or does it require finding a home in the tank somewhere ?. Think how much weight would 2 X 12v SLA 20AH be ? compare that to 4.8kg wonderful stuff imo.but remember I know nothing 8) Neil On Thursday, September 19, 2013 8:59:16 PM UTC-7, tan...@gmail.com wrote: What do you guys think of this one? Kind of a nice setup with a voltmeter, on/off switch, quick disconnects, charging port, and a charger. All in a nice neat package. I'm looking at it for the KV-2 so it will fit in that tank. It's about 7x3x10 from my quick calculations. http://www.ebay.com/itm/321207262810?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:VRI_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2661 Derek -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to mailto:rctankcombat%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:rctankcombat%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to mailto:rctankcombat%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You
Re: [TANKS] Soldier and tank combat
Here's what I got from that: i would love 5 men :-) -Amir On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Doug Smith comman...@combatships.comwrote: I have mentioned this option before to enhance Tank combat by. Insertion of a twenty dollar automatic airsoft mini machine gun in a tank modified to hold 3-400 shells. Scenarios could cheaply and easily be set up to place advancing troops on the field. A two foot by six inch piece of plywood with plastic army figures That have a base glued to the bottom of them spread apart randomly every 2-3 inches. It would not be worth your cannon fire to try and hit all unless you were to flank them. The machine gun could be fixed and aimed by moving the track on the tank to aim. You would need to be ten to twenty feet away or the soldiers could fire a bazooka or afix a bomb to your tank. You realistically could not just run over them since they would just run away. Your job as a tank commander is to protect your troops, your tank and move your army forwad. For every town you conquer you earn battle points. Every 5-10 minutes you stop play and move your troops up or not. The goal is to get your troops to the next town without losing all your tanks or men. for fifty bucks you could have 200+ men on the field. You could have more realistic battles than just target shooting each others tanks. Field troops could have battles also. When they get within 10 feet of each other combat begins. after the 5-10 interval each side losses a man based on the size of the other army. Example If I had 20 soldiers and you had 50 i would love 5 men and you would lose 2 men rounding up and down as the numbers change. This would necessitate tank intervention to even the odds. You may have to risk a tank to save your troops. A few paintballs and some airsoft amo could save the day and turn the tide of battle. Let me know what you think? Commander Doug -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TANKS] Soldier and tank combat
Wow...is that actually Amir? I guess that's his once every couple of months post... :) Derek T065 SV016 On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Amir Tahvildaran amird...@gmail.comwrote: Here's what I got from that: i would love 5 men :-) -Amir On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Doug Smith comman...@combatships.comwrote: I have mentioned this option before to enhance Tank combat by. Insertion of a twenty dollar automatic airsoft mini machine gun in a tank modified to hold 3-400 shells. Scenarios could cheaply and easily be set up to place advancing troops on the field. A two foot by six inch piece of plywood with plastic army figures That have a base glued to the bottom of them spread apart randomly every 2-3 inches. It would not be worth your cannon fire to try and hit all unless you were to flank them. The machine gun could be fixed and aimed by moving the track on the tank to aim. You would need to be ten to twenty feet away or the soldiers could fire a bazooka or afix a bomb to your tank. You realistically could not just run over them since they would just run away. Your job as a tank commander is to protect your troops, your tank and move your army forwad. For every town you conquer you earn battle points. Every 5-10 minutes you stop play and move your troops up or not. The goal is to get your troops to the next town without losing all your tanks or men. for fifty bucks you could have 200+ men on the field. You could have more realistic battles than just target shooting each others tanks. Field troops could have battles also. When they get within 10 feet of each other combat begins. after the 5-10 interval each side losses a man based on the size of the other army. Example If I had 20 soldiers and you had 50 i would love 5 men and you would lose 2 men rounding up and down as the numbers change. This would necessitate tank intervention to even the odds. You may have to risk a tank to save your troops. A few paintballs and some airsoft amo could save the day and turn the tide of battle. Let me know what you think? Commander Doug -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TANKS] Re: Battery find
Mike, I have some questions for you about those packs. I know I would have to buy two and wire them in series to produce 24V like I do with my SLAs. I understand that part, but the PCB won't fit those terminals. Do you or can you open up the battery and install the PCB on the individual cells in the pack? Does the PCB act like a BMS circuit? Derek On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Mike Mangus mikem5...@yahoo.com wrote: A realtively good cost for the 20Ah LiFE cells can be found at http://www.batteryspace.com/LiFePO4-Prismatic-Box-Battery-12.8V-20Ah-256Wh-10C-rate-without-PCM.aspx. The plastic case contains four 20Ah cells and does not come with a battery management system. Many guys in the model warship world are using these cells with a simple balancer found at http://www.batteryspace.com/Smart-LED-Balance-Module-for-3.2V-LFP-Cell-with-250mA-Balance-Current.aspx. One balancer across each cell helps keep the cells balanced to each other without limiting the output current. The cells themselves are good for a continuous 200 amp draw. I switched my combat ships to these cells (and the Headway cylindrical 10ah cells for smaller ships) a couple years ago and have never looked back. Half the weight and more capacity than a similir sized SLA, longer cycle life, and they don't dump voltage under load. My ships can battle all day on one charge ... heck, I don't even take a charger out to the pond anymore. Wish I could make it up for the upcoming battle. T81 is still awaiting its time on the building schedule to get remotered. SV15 is even further down on the schedule requiring a total rebuild from the suspension up. Lastly the semi-secrete tank project is stalled as other higher priority projects compete for time. Still, the goal is to have all three assets operational by the 2014 Spring Battle. :) Mike M *From:* Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com *To:* rctankcombat@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, September 20, 2013 9:12 AM *Subject:* Re: [TANKS] Re: Battery find Under normal conditions the motors don't pull 30 amps, but I have blown a 30 amp fuse on the Sturmtiger using the same motors. 18AH batteries are sufficient using SLAs for most tanks. I'm just really not sure about what size LIFEPO4 battery pack I should use. I was demonstrating the KV-2 to some people that visited us and the two 7AH batteries got really hot. One was so hot that it started to bulge so I really need to find a sufficient battery pack for this beast. I was thinking that the 20AH packs would be sufficient to power it. Problem with going over 20AH is price. Derek On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 7:30 AM, isaac goldman panthergol...@gmail.comwrote: Max discharging current : 30 Amps. If you happen to pull more than 30 amps total the battery will shut down on you. Your going to want to make sure running both drive motors doesnt pull more than that... On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 7:56 AM, TyngTech steve...@gmail.com wrote: I would say that on this unit, the BMS is integral to the case. I don't see any connectors or wiring that would indicate an external BMS unlike this sellers 15AH solution. http://www.ebay.com/itm/24V-15AH-LiFePo4-battery-Lithium-Electric-Bicycle-Scooter-Rechargeable-Battery-/221280643607?pt=US_Rechargeable_Batterieshash=item33855aaa17 Steve On Friday, September 20, 2013 4:52:59 AM UTC-4, Neil Rochford wrote: Cant grumble at the price, I`ve been looking at something like this for my e-bike that I can also use in my tank. Im just a little concerned about reliability of a technology I dont understand, Does the BMS come part of the battery box ( integrity built in ) or does it require finding a home in the tank somewhere ?. Think how much weight would 2 X 12v SLA 20AH be ? compare that to 4.8kg wonderful stuff imo.but remember I know nothing 8) Neil On Thursday, September 19, 2013 8:59:16 PM UTC-7, tan...@gmail.com wrote: What do you guys think of this one? Kind of a nice setup with a voltmeter, on/off switch, quick disconnects, charging port, and a charger. All in a nice neat package. I'm looking at it for the KV-2 so it will fit in that tank. It's about 7x3x10 from my quick calculations. http://www.ebay.com/itm/321207262810?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:VRI_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2661 Derek -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to mailto:rctankcombat%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comrctankcombat%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:rctankcombat%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comrctankcombat%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit
Re: [TANKS] Soldier and tank combat
LOL excuse my typing. You know in war all kinds of things happen. When you lose the men you love you love the men you lose. I just like machine guns now don't read anything in to that. Commander Doug On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com wrote: Wow...is that actually Amir? I guess that's his once every couple of months post... :) Derek T065 SV016 On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Amir Tahvildaran amird...@gmail.comwrote: Here's what I got from that: i would love 5 men :-) -Amir On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Doug Smith comman...@combatships.comwrote: I have mentioned this option before to enhance Tank combat by. Insertion of a twenty dollar automatic airsoft mini machine gun in a tank modified to hold 3-400 shells. Scenarios could cheaply and easily be set up to place advancing troops on the field. A two foot by six inch piece of plywood with plastic army figures That have a base glued to the bottom of them spread apart randomly every 2-3 inches. It would not be worth your cannon fire to try and hit all unless you were to flank them. The machine gun could be fixed and aimed by moving the track on the tank to aim. You would need to be ten to twenty feet away or the soldiers could fire a bazooka or afix a bomb to your tank. You realistically could not just run over them since they would just run away. Your job as a tank commander is to protect your troops, your tank and move your army forwad. For every town you conquer you earn battle points. Every 5-10 minutes you stop play and move your troops up or not. The goal is to get your troops to the next town without losing all your tanks or men. for fifty bucks you could have 200+ men on the field. You could have more realistic battles than just target shooting each others tanks. Field troops could have battles also. When they get within 10 feet of each other combat begins. after the 5-10 interval each side losses a man based on the size of the other army. Example If I had 20 soldiers and you had 50 i would love 5 men and you would lose 2 men rounding up and down as the numbers change. This would necessitate tank intervention to even the odds. You may have to risk a tank to save your troops. A few paintballs and some airsoft amo could save the day and turn the tide of battle. Let me know what you think? Commander Doug -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TANKS] Soldier and tank combat
Haha yeah, back to hibernation! On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com wrote: Wow...is that actually Amir? I guess that's his once every couple of months post... :) Derek T065 SV016 On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Amir Tahvildaran amird...@gmail.comwrote: Here's what I got from that: i would love 5 men :-) -Amir On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Doug Smith comman...@combatships.comwrote: I have mentioned this option before to enhance Tank combat by. Insertion of a twenty dollar automatic airsoft mini machine gun in a tank modified to hold 3-400 shells. Scenarios could cheaply and easily be set up to place advancing troops on the field. A two foot by six inch piece of plywood with plastic army figures That have a base glued to the bottom of them spread apart randomly every 2-3 inches. It would not be worth your cannon fire to try and hit all unless you were to flank them. The machine gun could be fixed and aimed by moving the track on the tank to aim. You would need to be ten to twenty feet away or the soldiers could fire a bazooka or afix a bomb to your tank. You realistically could not just run over them since they would just run away. Your job as a tank commander is to protect your troops, your tank and move your army forwad. For every town you conquer you earn battle points. Every 5-10 minutes you stop play and move your troops up or not. The goal is to get your troops to the next town without losing all your tanks or men. for fifty bucks you could have 200+ men on the field. You could have more realistic battles than just target shooting each others tanks. Field troops could have battles also. When they get within 10 feet of each other combat begins. after the 5-10 interval each side losses a man based on the size of the other army. Example If I had 20 soldiers and you had 50 i would love 5 men and you would lose 2 men rounding up and down as the numbers change. This would necessitate tank intervention to even the odds. You may have to risk a tank to save your troops. A few paintballs and some airsoft amo could save the day and turn the tide of battle. Let me know what you think? Commander Doug -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TANKS] Re: Battery find
From what I'm reading, the LIFEPO4 bats can't go below 2.4V or you risk damage to the individual cells. Since the BMS controls the balancing of the cells while charging and has the low voltage cutoff function, wouldn't you be better off just using a BMS since the PCB doesn't have a low voltage cutoff or overcharge protection? Just trying to get better educated on the cells before dropping the cash... Derek On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 2:45 PM, TyngTech steve...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, they break open the packs and extract the individual cells. S On Friday, September 20, 2013 2:38:02 PM UTC-4, tan...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, I have some questions for you about those packs. I know I would have to buy two and wire them in series to produce 24V like I do with my SLAs. I understand that part, but the PCB won't fit those terminals. Do you or can you open up the battery and install the PCB on the individual cells in the pack? Does the PCB act like a BMS circuit? Derek -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TANKS] Soldier and tank combat
I have mentioned this option before to enhance Tank combat by. Insertion of a twenty dollar automatic airsoft mini machine gun in a tank modified to hold 3-400 shells. Scenarios could cheaply and easily be set up to place advancing troops on the field. A two foot by six inch piece of plywood with plastic army figures That have a base glued to the bottom of them spread apart randomly every 2-3 inches. It would not be worth your cannon fire to try and hit all unless you were to flank them. The machine gun could be fixed and aimed by moving the track on the tank to aim. You would need to be ten to twenty feet away or the soldiers could fire a bazooka or afix a bomb to your tank. You realistically could not just run over them since they would just run away. Your job as a tank commander is to protect your troops, your tank and move your army forwad. For every town you conquer you earn battle points. Every 5-10 minutes you stop play and move your troops up or not. The goal is to get your troops to the next town without losing all your tanks or men. for fifty bucks you could have 200+ men on the field. You could have more realistic battles than just target shooting each others tanks. Field troops could have battles also. When they get within 10 feet of each other combat begins. after the 5-10 interval each side losses a man based on the size of the other army. Example If I had 20 soldiers and you had 50 i would love 5 men and you would lose 2 men rounding up and down as the numbers change. This would necessitate tank intervention to even the odds. You may have to risk a tank to save your troops. A few paintballs and some airsoft amo could save the day and turn the tide of battle. Let me know what you think? Commander Doug -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TANKS] Re: Battery find
Yes, they break open the packs and extract the individual cells. S On Friday, September 20, 2013 2:38:02 PM UTC-4, tan...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, I have some questions for you about those packs. I know I would have to buy two and wire them in series to produce 24V like I do with my SLAs. I understand that part, but the PCB won't fit those terminals. Do you or can you open up the battery and install the PCB on the individual cells in the pack? Does the PCB act like a BMS circuit? Derek -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TANKS] Battery find
Hey Derek, I know I ain't built nothin' yet... But the bean counter in me tells me that the final cost with ext. warranty comes to 357 buckaroonies!! Sounds abit steep, even if you waive the warranty... (A hundred and four dollars shipping, were are they making these things, Mars?!!) Yeah, yeah I know, it weighs 94lbs or something like that.. Oh, wait, oh it's expedited shipping, which means you'll hopefully get it in three weeks. Now it's making sense.. Nearly just in time for the... (Sorry Derek, had a crappy day and decided to take it out on your post. Hopefully, no hard feelings dude!!). A poor man's hobby indeed!! Honey, get me another Guinness!! Dave Please take with several grains of salt D. - Original Message - From: Derek Engelhaupt To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:59 PM Subject: [TANKS] Battery find What do you guys think of this one? Kind of a nice setup with a voltmeter, on/off switch, quick disconnects, charging port, and a charger. All in a nice neat package. I'm looking at it for the KV-2 so it will fit in that tank. It's about 7x3x10 from my quick calculations. http://www.ebay.com/itm/321207262810?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:VRI_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2661 Derek -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TANKS] Re: Soldier and tank combat
Hey Amir, I'd just build a Crocodile and melt the little b's. End of battle, victory is ours. No waiting for 5 to 10 minutes. So when you coming out ? No. no .no Not that type of coming out, when you coming out to another event? Oberst Johann On Friday, September 20, 2013 2:19:57 PM UTC-4, Doug Smith wrote: I have mentioned this option before to enhance Tank combat by. Insertion of a twenty dollar automatic airsoft mini machine gun in a tank modified to hold 3-400 shells. Scenarios could cheaply and easily be set up to place advancing troops on the field. A two foot by six inch piece of plywood with plastic army figures That have a base glued to the bottom of them spread apart randomly every 2-3 inches. It would not be worth your cannon fire to try and hit all unless you were to flank them. The machine gun could be fixed and aimed by moving the track on the tank to aim. You would need to be ten to twenty feet away or the soldiers could fire a bazooka or afix a bomb to your tank. You realistically could not just run over them since they would just run away. Your job as a tank commander is to protect your troops, your tank and move your army forwad. For every town you conquer you earn battle points. Every 5-10 minutes you stop play and move your troops up or not. The goal is to get your troops to the next town without losing all your tanks or men. for fifty bucks you could have 200+ men on the field. You could have more realistic battles than just target shooting each others tanks. Field troops could have battles also. When they get within 10 feet of each other combat begins. after the 5-10 interval each side losses a man based on the size of the other army. Example If I had 20 soldiers and you had 50 i would love 5 men and you would lose 2 men rounding up and down as the numbers change. This would necessitate tank intervention to even the odds. You may have to risk a tank to save your troops. A few paintballs and some airsoft amo could save the day and turn the tide of battle. Let me know what you think? Commander Doug -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
