Re: [TANKS] linier drive for steering?
This site has hacked and externally geared servo setups. http://www.servocity.com/html/robotzone_servos.html?no_redirect=true Look around the site for many other solutions. Mike B > On Mar 30, 2014, at 9:03 PM, odysseyslipw...@aol.com wrote: > > lol, that is how i was designing it - use the bell crank (if that's what they > are calling that part in the center) to act as a buffer (of sorts) and to > increase the throw/torque just a bit. that and with using ball link ends > it'll help smooth things out (specially when in motion) the rest of the way. > thanks for that link (i can replace some of my doodles and show a bit better > prospective of it all). > > i'm hoping to look over the pages steve posted tonight to see what info they > offer > > chris > > In a message dated 3/30/2014 6:23:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > panthergol...@gmail.com writes: > That must be why the concept is used by most cars, RC racing or otherwise; > its a conspiracy by Futaba to sell replacement gears... > > Look up bell crank steering. Its mechanically simple, resists bump steer very > well and keeps the wear off your servos. > > Heres a great picture of the implementation: > > http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teammagic.com.tw%2Fpic%2FProductIntroduction%2FCars%2FE4%2FE4RS09%2Fsingle-bell-crank-steering-system.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teammagic.com.tw%2Fwb_product03.asp%3Fcid%3D18%26itno%3D503003&h=220&w=460&tbnid=BEk1iLdqf1749M%3A&zoom=1&docid=Bm9TGafqzGw_8M&ei=a5g4U5uPEIPlyQGfuoCoDQ&tbm=isch&ved=0CA8QhBwwAjhk&iact=rc&dur=301&page=9&start=93&ndsp=12 > > > > >> On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 5:32 PM, wrote: >> it is possible not very practical as it'll put some serious strain on the >> servo and gears >> >> chris >> >> In a message dated 3/30/2014 5:17:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> panthergol...@gmail.com writes: >> Unfortunately its more complicated than that... for example, how long are >> the steering arms (im assuming your using some variant of Ackerman >> steering)? Even the weakest servo with a seriously long lever could give >> some harsh torque... >> -- >> -- >> You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. >> To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "R/C Tank Combat" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > Isaac Goldman > 5142334423 > > This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the > individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not > disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. > -- > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] New elevate complete
Ya. Das ist korrectamundo. On Sunday, March 30, 2014 9:04:50 PM UTC-4, odyssey...@aol.com wrote: > > is that the Gettysburg's event? > > In a message dated 3/30/2014 7:03:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > jpl...@yahoo.com writes: > > May 18th event. > > -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[TANKS] ID?
just ran across this but there wasn't any name with it and was wondering what it is cute little spud ain't it? chris -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] New elevate complete
is that the Gettysburg's event? In a message dated 3/30/2014 7:03:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jpl...@yahoo.com writes: May 18th event. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] linier drive for steering?
lol, that is how i was designing it - use the bell crank (if that's what they are calling that part in the center) to act as a buffer (of sorts) and to increase the throw/torque just a bit. that and with using ball link ends it'll help smooth things out (specially when in motion) the rest of the way. thanks for that link (i can replace some of my doodles and show a bit better prospective of it all). i'm hoping to look over the pages steve posted tonight to see what info they offer chris In a message dated 3/30/2014 6:23:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, panthergol...@gmail.com writes: That must be why the concept is used by most cars, RC racing or otherwise; its a conspiracy by Futaba to sell replacement gears... Look up bell crank steering. Its mechanically simple, resists bump steer very well and keeps the wear off your servos. Heres a great picture of the implementation: _http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teammagic.com.tw%2Fpic% 2FProductIntroduction%2FCars%2FE4%2FE4RS09%2Fsingle-bell-crank-steering-syst em.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teammagic.com.tw%2Fwb_product03.asp%3Fcid% 3D18%26itno%3D503003&h=220&w=460&tbnid=BEk1iLdqf1749M%3A&zoom=1&docid=Bm9TGa fqzGw_8M&ei=a5g4U5uPEIPlyQGfuoCoDQ&tbm=isch&ved=0CA8QhBwwAjhk&iact=rc&dur=30 1&page=9&start=93&ndsp=12_ (http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.teammagic.com.tw/pic/ProductIntroduction/Cars/E4/E4RS09/single-bell-crank-stee ring-system.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.teammagic.com.tw/wb_product03.asp?cid=1 8&itno=503003&h=220&w=460&tbnid=BEk1iLdqf1749M:&zoom=1&docid=Bm9TGafqzGw_8M& ei=a5g4U5uPEIPlyQGfuoCoDQ&tbm=isch&ved=0CA8QhBwwAjhk&iact=rc&dur=301&page=9& start=93&ndsp=12) On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 5:32 PM, <_OdysseySlipways@aol.com_ (mailto:odysseyslipw...@aol.com) > wrote: it is possible not very practical as it'll put some serious strain on the servo and gears chris In a message dated 3/30/2014 5:17:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _panthergold74@gmail.com_ (mailto:panthergol...@gmail.com) writes: Unfortunately its more complicated than that... for example, how long are the steering arms (im assuming your using some variant of Ackerman steering)? Even the weakest servo with a seriously long lever could give some harsh torque... -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to _rctankcombat@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:rctankcombat@googlegroups.com) To unsubscribe, send email to _rctankcombat+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to _rctankcombat+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to _rctankcombat+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] New elevate complete
The improved accuracy of Tri-Pact elevate and rotate systems means that there is only one last hurdle towards the goal of extreme accuracy ... finding perfect paintballs. To that end, Tri-Pact has begun development of an electro-mechanical sorting machine that will detect paintballs that are perfectly spherical and have uniform density. When armed with these so-called "Uberballs", effective accuracy should be less than 0.01 mm at a range of 50 meters, tailing off to 0.1mm at 100 meters. PUFF forces will be decimated. On 3/30/2014 7:03 PM, John Pittelli wrote: Here's a brief video. Now, all I have to do is reassemble my tank. Should have it ready in 6 weeks for the May 18th event. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pshrPtwwLfo -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[TANKS] New elevate complete
Here's a brief video. Now, all I have to do is reassemble my tank. Should have it ready in 6 weeks for the May 18th event. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pshrPtwwLfo -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] linier drive for steering?
That must be why the concept is used by most cars, RC racing or otherwise; its a conspiracy by Futaba to sell replacement gears... Look up bell crank steering. Its mechanically simple, resists bump steer very well and keeps the wear off your servos. Heres a great picture of the implementation: http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teammagic.com.tw%2Fpic%2FProductIntroduction%2FCars%2FE4%2FE4RS09%2Fsingle-bell-crank-steering-system.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teammagic.com.tw%2Fwb_product03.asp%3Fcid%3D18%26itno%3D503003&h=220&w=460&tbnid=BEk1iLdqf1749M%3A&zoom=1&docid=Bm9TGafqzGw_8M&ei=a5g4U5uPEIPlyQGfuoCoDQ&tbm=isch&ved=0CA8QhBwwAjhk&iact=rc&dur=301&page=9&start=93&ndsp=12 On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 5:32 PM, wrote: > it is possible not very practical as it'll put some serious strain on > the servo and gears > > chris > > In a message dated 3/30/2014 5:17:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > panthergol...@gmail.com writes: > > Unfortunately its more complicated than that... for example, how long are > the steering arms (im assuming your using some variant of Ackerman > steering)? Even the weakest servo with a seriously long lever could give > some harsh torque... > > -- > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] Fox turret
looking good! can i ask why did you remove the supports in the mid section along the sides? i would have thought they would have been needed the most vs the ones still in the corners. how well does the resin soak into and bond to the paper mache? chris In a message dated 3/30/2014 4:51:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, funkyne...@ntlworld.com writes: I have been making progress with my Fox turret. I cut out the simple flat shapes and masking taped them together . Next I fixed temporary separating blocks that can bee seen in the four corners. then I cut "ribs" following the shape of the turret + 1 inch and glued it front and back with a spacer device to hold the rib dead center. Good old fashioned paper mache forms the complex oval shape. Next I`ll glass over the shape and I`ll have a very light weight and quite sturdy turret. Mint !! Neil R -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to _rctankcombat+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] linier drive for steering?
it is possible not very practical as it'll put some serious strain on the servo and gears chris In a message dated 3/30/2014 5:17:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, panthergol...@gmail.com writes: Unfortunately its more complicated than that... for example, how long are the steering arms (im assuming your using some variant of Ackerman steering)? Even the weakest servo with a seriously long lever could give some harsh torque... -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] linier drive for steering?
Unfortunately its more complicated than that... for example, how long are the steering arms (im assuming your using some variant of Ackerman steering)? Even the weakest servo with a seriously long lever could give some harsh torque... On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 5:07 PM, wrote: > 8" - 10" wheels and aprox 50 - 100lbs and the ability to turn the > wheels while sitting still > > In a message dated 3/30/2014 5:06:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > panthergol...@gmail.com writes: > > It depends on your specific needs, which in turn requires doing math... > > > On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 5:03 PM, wrote: > >> i started looking at the (big/jumbo) servos but i just don't think >> they'll be big/strong enough to handle anything i'm doodling or anyone else >> would build in larger scales. >> > -- > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] linier drive for steering?
8" - 10" wheels and aprox 50 - 100lbs and the ability to turn the wheels while sitting still In a message dated 3/30/2014 5:06:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, panthergol...@gmail.com writes: It depends on your specific needs, which in turn requires doing math... On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 5:03 PM, <_OdysseySlipways@aol.com_ (mailto:odysseyslipw...@aol.com) > wrote: i started looking at the (big/jumbo) servos but i just don't think they'll be big/strong enough to handle anything i'm doodling or anyone else would build in larger scales. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] linier drive for steering?
It depends on your specific needs, which in turn requires doing math... On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 5:03 PM, wrote: > i started looking at the (big/jumbo) servos but i just don't think > they'll be big/strong enough to handle anything i'm doodling or anyone else > would build in larger scales. > > In a message dated 3/26/2014 11:05:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > panthergol...@gmail.com writes: > > You can for ~ 30$ on hobbyking.com buy servos with 30 to 40 kgcm of > torque; the one i got for my turret zenith has 40 kgcm or almost 3 ft-lbs. > You no longer need to custom make a solution. > > And as an aside you dont need a closed loop system; a stepper motor with > appropriate controls will work fine... > > -- > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] linier drive for steering?
i started looking at the (big/jumbo) servos but i just don't think they'll be big/strong enough to handle anything i'm doodling or anyone else would build in larger scales. In a message dated 3/26/2014 11:05:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, panthergol...@gmail.com writes: You can for ~ 30$ on _hobbyking.com_ (http://hobbyking.com/) buy servos with 30 to 40 kgcm of torque; the one i got for my turret zenith has 40 kgcm or almost 3 ft-lbs. You no longer need to custom make a solution. And as an aside you dont need a closed loop system; a stepper motor with appropriate controls will work fine... -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.