[TANKS] Re: smallest tank
I wonder how big one of those bomb disposal robots would be in 1:6 On Jan 2, 10:39 pm, Aahz aah...@gmail.com wrote: Steve Tyng wrote: Aahz wrote: So if you went with 1/6 scale and it was under 3' it would be classified as something other than a tank? A support vehicle maybe? Nope, still classified as a tank. The rules state that a Tank is Any fully tracked vehicle. The Vickers-Carden-Loyd Model 1937 is definitely a fully tracked vehicle. Hm, if sub 3' tanks became a common thing Tankette rules could be fun. Aahz. (still working on the 1/6 T-35 at the moment though) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: smallest tank
Aahz for a 1:6th scale Goliath couldn't something like them small r/c battle tanks be used to represent one? Chris, _Odyssey Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html) **New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: smallest tank
I reckon by the time I make my first tank (which will be sometime after I make a few support vehicles) i will probably make a tankette. On Jan 3, 2:13 pm, odysseyslipw...@aol.com wrote: Aahz for a 1:6th scale Goliath couldn't something like them small r/c battle tanks be used to represent one? Chris, _Odyssey Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html) **New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: smallest tank
Pay attention to what this man says! I had to resort to using a .40 caliber gun myself in the BT-7. With a lot of trimming and a fair amount of cussing I managed to fit a .68 caliber gun in the turret but had no room for ammunition! Also, stay away from paintballs of mixed colors. I mean several different colors of paintballs in one batch. I think the mind has a hard time recognizing random colors. For me, a single color that contrasts well works much better. Paul H. - Original Message - From: Pureteenlard pureteenl...@hotmail.com To: R/C Tank Combat rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 10:28 AM Subject: [TANKS] Re: smallest tank Well the smallest proper tank with a turret in the hobby is probably the ex-Neil Rochford M22 Locust (T055 - http://www.rctankcombat.com/tanks/T055/ ) but the diminutive nature of the beast leads to some real problems when it comes to fitting a paintball gun. A regular .68 calibre gun just won't fit. The smaller calibre guns (.40, .43 and .50) are often difficult to get and ammunition can be scarce too. The smaller balls are difficult to see in flight so it's difficult to correct your aim and when they do hit they are less likely to burst than a full calibre ball. If at all possible, I would recommend making a regular sized tank (whatever THAT is!) with a nice big turret. On Jan 2, 2:35 am, WWIIFanatic wwii1...@hotmail.com wrote: i was wondering if anyone could find a smaller tank than the Polish TKD armed with something larger than a machine gun. I think smaller tanks have the advantage even though they take less hits and carry less ammo. I'll never be able to make one but i can always bounce ideas around. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: smallest tank
The Vickers-Carden-Lloyd Model 1937 tank looks pretty small to me and is a real production tank (turret, tracks, and a cannon). http://www.museum-tank.ru/IIwar/tables2A/va.html http://www.jedsite.info/tanks-victor/victor/vickers-light_series/light-tank-m1937/m1937-intro.html http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/GreatBritain/GB-LightTankModel1937.jpg http://good-times.webshots.com/album/563763772kJhppu The specs are: Issue of 1937 Weight 4.2 tons Engine 6cyl 90hp Max. speed of 48 km/h (30mph) Armor 7-9mm Armament 40mm cannon (British 2pdr) Ammunition - 58 shots 2 person crew. Length: 11', 10.75 Width: 6' 2.25 Height 6' 2 In 1:6 scale this tank would be just shy of 2' long and be 12.34 wide. Under our rule set this tank would get a 30 round magazine, 2 hits for a kill, frontal hits will not count. Here's and interesting pdf on the British light tanks/tankettes http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_British_Light_Medium_Tanks.pdf Steve Tyng --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: smallest tank
Hello Mr Tyng, The Carden-Loyd/vickers tankette looks very interesting. But don't the rule specify 1:6 scale or a minimum of 36' long? Steven C. -Original Message- From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tyng Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 10:40 AM To: R/C Tank Combat Subject: [TANKS] Re: smallest tank The Vickers-Carden-Lloyd Model 1937 tank looks pretty small to me and is a real production tank (turret, tracks, and a cannon). http://www.museum-tank.ru/IIwar/tables2A/va.html http://www.jedsite.info/tanks-victor/victor/vickers-light_series/light-t ank-m1937/m1937-intro.html http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/GreatBritain/GB-LightTankModel1937.jp g http://good-times.webshots.com/album/563763772kJhppu The specs are: Issue of 1937 Weight 4.2 tons Engine 6cyl 90hp Max. speed of 48 km/h (30mph) Armor 7-9mm Armament 40mm cannon (British 2pdr) Ammunition - 58 shots 2 person crew. Length: 11', 10.75 Width: 6' 2.25 Height 6' 2 In 1:6 scale this tank would be just shy of 2' long and be 12.34 wide. Under our rule set this tank would get a 30 round magazine, 2 hits for a kill, frontal hits will not count. Here's and interesting pdf on the British light tanks/tankettes http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_British_Light_Medium_Tanks.pdf Steve Tyng The contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) only. Only the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: smallest tank
Steven, A tank may be built to 1:6 scale OR must be a minimum of 3' IF NOT built to 1:6 scale. Steve Tyng On Jan 2, 12:12 pm, Crooks, Steven M steven.cro...@usoncology.com wrote: Hello Mr Tyng, The Carden-Loyd/vickers tankette looks very interesting. But don't the rule specify 1:6 scale or a minimum of 36' long? Steven C. -Original Message- From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tyng Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 10:40 AM To: R/C Tank Combat Subject: [TANKS] Re: smallest tank The Vickers-Carden-Lloyd Model 1937 tank looks pretty small to me and is a real production tank (turret, tracks, and a cannon). http://www.museum-tank.ru/IIwar/tables2A/va.html http://www.jedsite.info/tanks-victor/victor/vickers-light_series/light-t ank-m1937/m1937-intro.html http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/GreatBritain/GB-LightTankModel1937.jp g http://good-times.webshots.com/album/563763772kJhppu The specs are: Issue of 1937 Weight 4.2 tons Engine 6cyl 90hp Max. speed of 48 km/h (30mph) Armor 7-9mm Armament 40mm cannon (British 2pdr) Ammunition - 58 shots 2 person crew. Length: 11', 10.75 Width: 6' 2.25 Height 6' 2 In 1:6 scale this tank would be just shy of 2' long and be 12.34 wide. Under our rule set this tank would get a 30 round magazine, 2 hits for a kill, frontal hits will not count. Here's and interesting pdf on the British light tanks/tankettes http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_British_Light_Medium_Tanks.pdf Steve Tyng The contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) only. Only the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: smallest tank
That looks like a Vickers Dutchman with a bigger turret. On Jan 2, 4:40 pm, Steve Tyng steve...@gmail.com wrote: The Vickers-Carden-Lloyd Model 1937 tank looks pretty small to me and is a real production tank (turret, tracks, and a cannon). http://www.museum-tank.ru/IIwar/tables2A/va.html http://www.jedsite.info/tanks-victor/victor/vickers-light_series/ligh... http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/GreatBritain/GB-LightTankModel1937... http://good-times.webshots.com/album/563763772kJhppu The specs are: Issue of 1937 Weight 4.2 tons Engine 6cyl 90hp Max. speed of 48 km/h (30mph) Armor 7-9mm Armament 40mm cannon (British 2pdr) Ammunition - 58 shots 2 person crew. Length: 11', 10.75 Width: 6' 2.25 Height 6' 2 In 1:6 scale this tank would be just shy of 2' long and be 12.34 wide. Under our rule set this tank would get a 30 round magazine, 2 hits for a kill, frontal hits will not count. Here's and interesting pdf on the British light tanks/tankettes http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_British_Light_Medium_Tanks.pdf Steve Tyng --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: smallest tank
Steve Tyng wrote: Steven, A tank may be built to 1:6 scale OR must be a minimum of 3' IF NOT built to 1:6 scale. So if you went with 1/6 scale and it was under 3' it would be classified as something other than a tank? A support vehicle maybe? Aahz. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: smallest tank
That's pretty small. An M50 was larger at 3.82m l x 2.6m w x 2.13m h ( 12'6 L x 8'6 w x 7'h) (it had 6 x 106 though...) -Original Message- From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tyng Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 12:07 PM To: R/C Tank Combat Subject: [TANKS] Re: smallest tank Steven, A tank may be built to 1:6 scale OR must be a minimum of 3' IF NOT built to 1:6 scale. Steve Tyng On Jan 2, 12:12 pm, Crooks, Steven M steven.cro...@usoncology.com wrote: Hello Mr Tyng, The Carden-Loyd/vickers tankette looks very interesting. But don't the rule specify 1:6 scale or a minimum of 36' long? Steven C. -Original Message- From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tyng Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 10:40 AM To: R/C Tank Combat Subject: [TANKS] Re: smallest tank The Vickers-Carden-Lloyd Model 1937 tank looks pretty small to me and is a real production tank (turret, tracks, and a cannon). http://www.museum-tank.ru/IIwar/tables2A/va.html http://www.jedsite.info/tanks-victor/victor/vickers-light_series/light-t ank-m1937/m1937-intro.html http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/GreatBritain/GB-LightTankModel1937.jp g http://good-times.webshots.com/album/563763772kJhppu The specs are: Issue of 1937 Weight 4.2 tons Engine 6cyl 90hp Max. speed of 48 km/h (30mph) Armor 7-9mm Armament 40mm cannon (British 2pdr) Ammunition - 58 shots 2 person crew. Length: 11', 10.75 Width: 6' 2.25 Height 6' 2 In 1:6 scale this tank would be just shy of 2' long and be 12.34 wide. Under our rule set this tank would get a 30 round magazine, 2 hits for a kill, frontal hits will not count. Here's and interesting pdf on the British light tanks/tankettes http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_British_Light_Medium_Tanks.pdf Steve Tyng The contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) only. Only the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: smallest tank
Aahz wrote: So if you went with 1/6 scale and it was under 3' it would be classified as something other than a tank? A support vehicle maybe? Nope, still classified as a tank. The rules state that a Tank is Any fully tracked vehicle. The Vickers-Carden-Loyd Model 1937 is definitely a fully tracked vehicle. Steve Tyng --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: smallest tank
That makes a 1:6 scale Goliath pretty small... -Original Message- From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tyng Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 1:20 PM To: R/C Tank Combat Subject: [TANKS] Re: smallest tank Aahz wrote: So if you went with 1/6 scale and it was under 3' it would be classified as something other than a tank? A support vehicle maybe? Nope, still classified as a tank. The rules state that a Tank is Any fully tracked vehicle. The Vickers-Carden-Loyd Model 1937 is definitely a fully tracked vehicle. Steve Tyng The contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) only. Only the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: smallest tank
Or go the other way completely and find some drwings of the P1000 ratte (correct me if im wrong). Wouldn't be allowed in the rules (only ever 1 or 2 planned and was never built) and its a good thing too, it would of probably 36 metres long making it approximately 6 metres long at 1/6 scale. I would recommend making a regular sized tank (whatever THAT is!) with a nice big turret. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: smallest tank
Seems a bit big. Like the P1000 I guess. But then the P1000 has more guns. On Jan 2, 7:46 pm, Crooks, Steven M steven.cro...@usoncology.com wrote: The 80cm Dora was built and used operationally. http://www.missing-lynx.com/reviews/german/dorareviewdh_1.html http://www.aopt91.dsl.pipex.com/railgun/Content/Railwayguns/German/Dora% 20index.htm Steven C. -Original Message- From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of callum.king.underw...@googlemail.com Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 1:44 PM To: R/C Tank Combat Subject: [TANKS] Re: smallest tank Or go the other way completely and find some drwings of the P1000 ratte (correct me if im wrong). Wouldn't be allowed in the rules (only ever 1 or 2 planned and was never built) and its a good thing too, it would of probably 36 metres long making it approximately 6 metres long at 1/6 scale. I would recommend making a regular sized tank (whatever THAT is!) with a nice big turret. The contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) only. Only the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: smallest tank
Steve Tyng wrote: Aahz wrote: So if you went with 1/6 scale and it was under 3' it would be classified as something other than a tank? A support vehicle maybe? Nope, still classified as a tank. The rules state that a Tank is Any fully tracked vehicle. The Vickers-Carden-Loyd Model 1937 is definitely a fully tracked vehicle. Hm, if sub 3' tanks became a common thing Tankette rules could be fun. Aahz. (still working on the 1/6 T-35 at the moment though) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: smallest tank
the polish TKS 20mm mounted a 20mm auto cannon, similar to the pzII. thats the smalest tank youll find I think Chris. b On Jan 2, 12:35 pm, WWIIFanatic wwii1...@hotmail.com wrote: i was wondering if anyone could find a smaller tank than the Polish TKD armed with something larger than a machine gun. I think smaller tanks have the advantage even though they take less hits and carry less ammo. I'll never be able to make one but i can always bounce ideas around. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: smallest tank
The German captured Vickers Tankette mounted something larger than a machine gun: a 105 mm gun. A small and fast target with a big gun. That's a 1:6 armed model that fits in a suitcase. It also has teh advantage that it needs less battery. http://www.rctankcombat.com/tanks/T056/ MOre videos here: http://s148.photobucket.com/albums/s30/ChrysKane/TANKETTE%20UPGRADED%202007/ The shape is approximated. I hope you can build a more faithful model. Use smaller (5 cm wide) tracks and you'll be to scale for Vickers. I should do that one day. I have the CAD plans of the individual plates of teh lower hull, if you like it. Only you should build it out of aluminium sheets, 3-4 mms wide, so you save space inside this little model. Chrys ( I am battling in 3 hours from now) K. - Original Message - From: Chris. b barthelso...@hotmail.com To: R/C Tank Combat rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 8:07 AM Subject: [TANKS] Re: smallest tank the polish TKS 20mm mounted a 20mm auto cannon, similar to the pzII. thats the smalest tank youll find I think Chris. b On Jan 2, 12:35 pm, WWIIFanatic wwii1...@hotmail.com wrote: i was wondering if anyone could find a smaller tank than the Polish TKD armed with something larger than a machine gun. I think smaller tanks have the advantage even though they take less hits and carry less ammo. I'll never be able to make one but i can always bounce ideas around. __ NOD32 3434 (20080911) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
