Re: [TANKS] Re: Gyro stabilizer tests
On Sunday, February 10, 2013 1:51:11 PM UTC-5, odyssey...@aol.com wrote: > > for our R/C submarines we use to use a Pitch control rather than a gyro. > right now i am looking to see who still might sell them, but honestly i > think either option would be a waste. > > if your looking to use them to keep a bead on your target as you chase it > across the battle field i can't see them actually working as you would need > to set them somehow on the fly. > > i know the pitch controller would only keep your barrel level and not of > any use if you are going over hills of any kind as the pitch control (even > though it would keep the barrel level) can't take into account the other > vehicle's rise and fall as it travels the filed. > > or am i missing something such as a cool factor of having the barrel stay > straight and stable as you cross the filed. > > ^^^ cool, but also helpfull against slower enemys/stationary ones(eg. > artillary or a parked tank)plus,yes it does add a cool factor(it would also > be intimidating if you saw it coming for your tank XD ) > -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TANKS] Re: Gyro stabilizer tests
for our R/C submarines we use to use a Pitch control rather than a gyro. right now i am looking to see who still might sell them, but honestly i think either option would be a waste. if your looking to use them to keep a bead on your target as you chase it across the battle field i can't see them actually working as you would need to set them somehow on the fly. i know the pitch controller would only keep your barrel level and not of any use if you are going over hills of any kind as the pitch control (even though it would keep the barrel level) can't take into account the other vehicle's rise and fall as it travels the filed. or am i missing something such as a cool factor of having the barrel stay straight and stable as you cross the filed. Chris -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TANKS] Re: Gyro stabilizer tests
That's not correct, you won't need a computer radio to utilize a gyro to control the turret rotation. And certainly no need for "heli curves" since those are strictly for the relationship between throttle and rotor blade pitch. You'd set up the turret gryo like a heading hold gyro on a tail rotor for a heli. The gyro is totally set up with the gain and sensitivity adjustments on the gyro itself. A gyro should run about 50+ with heading hold being a bit more. That's really all the additional expense it would add Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Jacob Sender: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 10:18:21 To: Reply-To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [TANKS] Re: Gyro stabilizer tests I can tell you from experience that in most cases, you need a very good, computer controlled transmitter to take advantage of a gyro setup. I have been flying airplanes and helicopters for over 25 years. We have experimented with the old futaba ball bearing (mechanical) gyros 20 years ago on airplanes. They work, but it takes patience and an extra channel to TURN THEM OFF when you dont need them. Same goes for the new 3 axis 3channel gyros. You really need a very advanced transmitter that can program the "heli curves". Im not sure how you would set it up on a ground vehicle for gyro stabilization of a turrent that is still attached to another body that is doing its own thing. That would take some experimentation. That being said. The cheapest futaba radio is $480, and the cheapest futaba 3 axis gyro is over $230. I have thousands of dollars invested in my helicopters, so it becomes expensive really fast. On Saturday, February 9, 2013 3:02:47 PM UTC-7, Barbarian wrote: > Thank you Jason > > thectdb...@hotmail.com > > > On 2013-02-09, at 5:01 PM, "Jason" > > wrote: > > Gyros are attached inline with the servo they control, they act as a > passthru for user commands but in the absense of thatwill take over the > control > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > -- > *From: * Robert Currie > > *Sender: * rctank...@googlegroups.com > *Date: *Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:58:42 -0500 > *To: *rctank...@googlegroups.com < > rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > > *ReplyTo: * rctank...@googlegroups.com > *Subject: *Re: [TANKS] Re: Gyro stabilizer tests > > Thank you for your reply Steve when I do install the gyros I will be sure > to not make things sloppy > I found that we had this conversation back in 2008 I figured that someone > might have tried it by now > I was just wondering will you need extra channels to use a gyro or is it > hooked up in line with a servo? > > thectdb...@hotmail.com > > > On 2013-02-09, at 4:12 PM, "TyngTech" > > wrote: > > The limited testing that was done under less than ideal conditions showed > that the idea may have merit. There was some drift in the testing. IMO, > someone needs to just install a gyro on their tank and see how it goes on > the battlefield. > > ST > > > On Thursday, February 7, 2013 8:16:06 PM UTC-5, Barbarian wrote: >> >> I was wondering how the gyro stabilizer Tests went mentioned by Joe >> >> thectdb...@hotmail.com >> >> -- > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctank...@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctank...@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctank...@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com &
Re: [TANKS] Re: Gyro stabilizer tests
I can tell you from experience that in most cases, you need a very good, computer controlled transmitter to take advantage of a gyro setup. I have been flying airplanes and helicopters for over 25 years. We have experimented with the old futaba ball bearing (mechanical) gyros 20 years ago on airplanes. They work, but it takes patience and an extra channel to TURN THEM OFF when you dont need them. Same goes for the new 3 axis 3channel gyros. You really need a very advanced transmitter that can program the "heli curves". Im not sure how you would set it up on a ground vehicle for gyro stabilization of a turrent that is still attached to another body that is doing its own thing. That would take some experimentation. That being said. The cheapest futaba radio is $480, and the cheapest futaba 3 axis gyro is over $230. I have thousands of dollars invested in my helicopters, so it becomes expensive really fast. On Saturday, February 9, 2013 3:02:47 PM UTC-7, Barbarian wrote: > Thank you Jason > > thectdb...@hotmail.com > > > On 2013-02-09, at 5:01 PM, "Jason" > > wrote: > > Gyros are attached inline with the servo they control, they act as a > passthru for user commands but in the absense of thatwill take over the > control > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > -- > *From: * Robert Currie > > *Sender: * rctank...@googlegroups.com > *Date: *Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:58:42 -0500 > *To: *rctank...@googlegroups.com < > rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > > *ReplyTo: * rctank...@googlegroups.com > *Subject: *Re: [TANKS] Re: Gyro stabilizer tests > > Thank you for your reply Steve when I do install the gyros I will be sure > to not make things sloppy > I found that we had this conversation back in 2008 I figured that someone > might have tried it by now > I was just wondering will you need extra channels to use a gyro or is it > hooked up in line with a servo? > > thectdb...@hotmail.com > > > On 2013-02-09, at 4:12 PM, "TyngTech" > > wrote: > > The limited testing that was done under less than ideal conditions showed > that the idea may have merit. There was some drift in the testing. IMO, > someone needs to just install a gyro on their tank and see how it goes on > the battlefield. > > ST > > > On Thursday, February 7, 2013 8:16:06 PM UTC-5, Barbarian wrote: >> >> I was wondering how the gyro stabilizer Tests went mentioned by Joe >> >> thectdb...@hotmail.com >> >> -- > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctank...@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctank...@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctank...@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TANKS] Re: Gyro stabilizer tests
Thank you Jason thectdbarbar...@hotmail.com On 2013-02-09, at 5:01 PM, "Jason" wrote: > Gyros are attached inline with the servo they control, they act as a passthru > for user commands but in the absense of thatwill take over the control > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > From: Robert Currie > Sender: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:58:42 -0500 > To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > ReplyTo: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [TANKS] Re: Gyro stabilizer tests > > Thank you for your reply Steve when I do install the gyros I will be sure to > not make things sloppy > I found that we had this conversation back in 2008 I figured that someone > might have tried it by now > I was just wondering will you need extra channels to use a gyro or is it > hooked up in line with a servo? > > thectdbarbar...@hotmail.com > > > On 2013-02-09, at 4:12 PM, "TyngTech" wrote: > >> The limited testing that was done under less than ideal conditions showed >> that the idea may have merit. There was some drift in the testing. IMO, >> someone needs to just install a gyro on their tank and see how it goes on >> the battlefield. >> >> ST >> >> >> On Thursday, February 7, 2013 8:16:06 PM UTC-5, Barbarian wrote: >>> >>> I was wondering how the gyro stabilizer Tests went mentioned by Joe >>> >>> thectdb...@hotmail.com >> >> -- >> -- >> You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. >> To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "R/C Tank Combat" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TANKS] Re: Gyro stabilizer tests
Gyros are attached inline with the servo they control, they act as a passthru for user commands but in the absense of thatwill take over the control Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Robert Currie Sender: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:58:42 To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [TANKS] Re: Gyro stabilizer tests Thank you for your reply Steve when I do install the gyros I will be sure to not make things sloppy I found that we had this conversation back in 2008 I figured that someone might have tried it by now I was just wondering will you need extra channels to use a gyro or is it hooked up in line with a servo? thectdbarbar...@hotmail.com On 2013-02-09, at 4:12 PM, "TyngTech" wrote: > The limited testing that was done under less than ideal conditions showed > that the idea may have merit. There was some drift in the testing. IMO, > someone needs to just install a gyro on their tank and see how it goes on the > battlefield. > > ST > > > On Thursday, February 7, 2013 8:16:06 PM UTC-5, Barbarian wrote: >> >> I was wondering how the gyro stabilizer Tests went mentioned by Joe >> >> thectdb...@hotmail.com > > -- > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TANKS] Re: Gyro stabilizer tests
Thank you for your reply Steve when I do install the gyros I will be sure to not make things sloppy I found that we had this conversation back in 2008 I figured that someone might have tried it by now I was just wondering will you need extra channels to use a gyro or is it hooked up in line with a servo? thectdbarbar...@hotmail.com On 2013-02-09, at 4:12 PM, "TyngTech" wrote: > The limited testing that was done under less than ideal conditions showed > that the idea may have merit. There was some drift in the testing. IMO, > someone needs to just install a gyro on their tank and see how it goes on the > battlefield. > > ST > > > On Thursday, February 7, 2013 8:16:06 PM UTC-5, Barbarian wrote: >> >> I was wondering how the gyro stabilizer Tests went mentioned by Joe >> >> thectdb...@hotmail.com > > -- > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
