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Thank you for your kind words, but in the UK it has to be said that we are a team. Mr Arundel ,Mr Palmer and Mr Malton have all built assets ( with various success ) and hosted battles ( with great success ). Thats what its all about. even with 5 tanks Id be quite bored stood in my garden on my own. its the personality's ( or sometimes clash of personalities ) that make each UK event fun. I imagine its much the same in the US. Neil R On Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:30:31 UTC-8, LIJagdpanther888 wrote: Hey Neil, Your work in the hobby is definitely the dog's boll... ( I did some homework...) on several fronts. From a person that has built zero vehicles, I applaud your efforts in giving the hobby a solid boost in your area. Building enough vehicles to create a match deserves recognition. Reminds me of the extent I would go through to ensure that a deck hockey game (hockey on foot, without ice, usually played with a ball) could be had as I attended college. I built the nets at the school's wood shop (and always carted them around to the place where we played), provided ninety percent of the sticks-even though I only needed one for myself, provided balls, pucks, full goalie equipment (despite never formally being a goalie), making all the phone calls to coordinate the games played... all the time knowing that this is what it takes to see something you love get off the ground. . Heck, I'd even * play* goalie, if it meant that a game would commence. So I fully understand your dedication!! Secondly, your efforts with the school kids sounds brilliant, you are creating a legacy. I sincerely hope that those kids see it through, and some of them carry the torch. Thanks Admiral Rochford, for sharing your grand efforts!! Dave silly old septic D. - Original Message - *From:* Neil Rochford javascript: *To:* rctank...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Sent:* Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:56 PM *Subject:* Re: [TANKS] Re: Here's some more...!! Dave wrote: what's the count in the garage Mr Arundel often comes round to my house and spends time in the garage but hes OK really, Oh sorry, theres an o in count. If you mean how many tanks have you built then I think its about 5 or 6. I have to be honest and confess that none of my tanks are of a very high standard. I just wanted to bang plenty out so that battles could start in the UK. I have 4 new tanks under construction as part of an enrichment program at my school where I now work. I`ll be posting progress this Christmas of the kids work. these will not be armed with paintball markers but NERF guns instead (for now with safety in mind). Im creating a new generation of tankers for future battles. They think Im a bit mad but they still turn up every week. Neil you dont need a navy to own a fleet R -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctank...@googlegroups.com javascript: To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.comjavascript: Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
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Neil has a point. In the UK, I would argue that although Neil is a prolific tank builder I'd argue that I am a better designer and engineer and Phil is a better innovator. Phil's paper mache construction was looked upon with sceptical eyes but proved to be a brilliant method of replicating complicated shapes without using expensive tools or unpleasant materials such as glass-fibre and resin. Without Neil I doubt that any tanks would ever have been battled in the UK. I say this through gritted teeth but it's true . . . On Friday, 21 December 2012 10:32:35 UTC, Neil Rochford wrote: Thank you for your kind words, but in the UK it has to be said that we are a team. Mr Arundel ,Mr Palmer and Mr Malton have all built assets ( with various success ) and hosted battles ( with great success ). Thats what its all about. even with 5 tanks Id be quite bored stood in my garden on my own. its the personality's ( or sometimes clash of personalities ) that make each UK event fun. I imagine its much the same in the US. Neil R On Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:30:31 UTC-8, LIJagdpanther888 wrote: Hey Neil, Your work in the hobby is definitely the dog's boll... ( I did some homework...) on several fronts. From a person that has built zero vehicles, I applaud your efforts in giving the hobby a solid boost in your area. Building enough vehicles to create a match deserves recognition. Reminds me of the extent I would go through to ensure that a deck hockey game (hockey on foot, without ice, usually played with a ball) could be had as I attended college. I built the nets at the school's wood shop (and always carted them around to the place where we played), provided ninety percent of the sticks-even though I only needed one for myself, provided balls, pucks, full goalie equipment (despite never formally being a goalie), making all the phone calls to coordinate the games played... all the time knowing that this is what it takes to see something you love get off the ground. . Heck, I'd even * play* goalie, if it meant that a game would commence. So I fully understand your dedication!! Secondly, your efforts with the school kids sounds brilliant, you are creating a legacy. I sincerely hope that those kids see it through, and some of them carry the torch. Thanks Admiral Rochford, for sharing your grand efforts!! Dave silly old septic D. - Original Message - *From:* Neil Rochford *To:* rctank...@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:56 PM *Subject:* Re: [TANKS] Re: Here's some more...!! Dave wrote: what's the count in the garage Mr Arundel often comes round to my house and spends time in the garage but hes OK really, Oh sorry, theres an o in count. If you mean how many tanks have you built then I think its about 5 or 6. I have to be honest and confess that none of my tanks are of a very high standard. I just wanted to bang plenty out so that battles could start in the UK. I have 4 new tanks under construction as part of an enrichment program at my school where I now work. I`ll be posting progress this Christmas of the kids work. these will not be armed with paintball markers but NERF guns instead (for now with safety in mind). Im creating a new generation of tankers for future battles. They think Im a bit mad but they still turn up every week. Neil you dont need a navy to own a fleet R -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctank...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
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There are absolutely no personality clashes at the U.S. battles :-) On 12/21/2012 5:32 AM, Neil Rochford wrote: its the personality's ( or sometimes clash of personalities ) that make each UK event fun. I imagine its much the same in the US. -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
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Dave wrote: what's the count in the garage Mr Arundel often comes round to my house and spends time in the garage but hes OK really, Oh sorry, theres an o in count. If you mean how many tanks have you built then I think its about 5 or 6. I have to be honest and confess that none of my tanks are of a very high standard. I just wanted to bang plenty out so that battles could start in the UK. I have 4 new tanks under construction as part of an enrichment program at my school where I now work. I`ll be posting progress this Christmas of the kids work. these will not be armed with paintball markers but NERF guns instead (for now with safety in mind). Im creating a new generation of tankers for future battles. They think Im a bit mad but they still turn up every week. Neil you dont need a navy to own a fleet R -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
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Hey Neil, Your work in the hobby is definitely the dog's boll... ( I did some homework...) on several fronts. From a person that has built zero vehicles, I applaud your efforts in giving the hobby a solid boost in your area. Building enough vehicles to create a match deserves recognition. Reminds me of the extent I would go through to ensure that a deck hockey game (hockey on foot, without ice, usually played with a ball) could be had as I attended college. I built the nets at the school's wood shop (and always carted them around to the place where we played), provided ninety percent of the sticks-even though I only needed one for myself, provided balls, pucks, full goalie equipment (despite never formally being a goalie), making all the phone calls to coordinate the games played... all the time knowing that this is what it takes to see something you love get off the ground. . Heck, I'd even play goalie, if it meant that a game would commence. So I fully understand your dedication!! Secondly, your efforts with the school kids sounds brilliant, you are creating a legacy. I sincerely hope that those kids see it through, and some of them carry the torch. Thanks Admiral Rochford, for sharing your grand efforts!! Dave silly old septic D. - Original Message - From: Neil Rochford To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [TANKS] Re: Here's some more...!! Dave wrote: what's the count in the garage Mr Arundel often comes round to my house and spends time in the garage but hes OK really, Oh sorry, theres an o in count. If you mean how many tanks have you built then I think its about 5 or 6. I have to be honest and confess that none of my tanks are of a very high standard. I just wanted to bang plenty out so that battles could start in the UK. I have 4 new tanks under construction as part of an enrichment program at my school where I now work. I`ll be posting progress this Christmas of the kids work. these will not be armed with paintball markers but NERF guns instead (for now with safety in mind). Im creating a new generation of tankers for future battles. They think Im a bit mad but they still turn up every week. Neil you dont need a navy to own a fleet R -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
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Dave wrote :I'm sorry to hear about the snub, but it sounds like you're having more fun with the hobby as it is. Actually the pain of the social rejection is enough to make a man go into his garage and not come out until he had build a fleet of 1/6th tanks, just to show a cruel word that he is a force to be reckoned with and to be taken seriously. Neil That Arundel fellow is just salt in my wounds R -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
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I guess I'm lucky that I've only had enough social rejection to build 1 tank. Bill --- On Tue, 12/18/12, Neil Rochford funkyne...@ntlworld.com wrote: Dave wrote :I'm sorry to hear about the snub, but it sounds like you're having more fun with the hobby as it is.Actually the pain of the social rejection is enough to make a man go into his garage and not come out until he had build a fleet of 1/6th tanks, just to show a cruel word that he is a force to be reckoned with and to be taken seriously. Neil That Arundel fellow is just salt in my wounds R -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
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Hey Neil, Not to belabour (intentional) the point, but I had the sound off as I watched that Ardwell video... serves me right for being too lazy to turn on the speakers on my computer. Perhaps then I would have heard the accents, and not needed to ask silly questions. But look at the bright side of it all, it got us to reveal our sociological difficulties!! Perhaps we should rename the hobby RCTPAC, which stands for RCTankandPsychologicalAssistanceCombat.com LOL. So tell me, what's the count in the garage stable up to? And I use stable to describe the size of your tank collection, not your psychological status at the moment... LOL Dave bemoan the point abit longer D. - Original Message - From: Dave D. To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [TANKS] Re: Here's some more...!! Hey Neil, Now that's more like it, nice detective work... I'm sorry to hear about the snub, but it sounds like you're having more fun with the hobby as it is... Being well liked is not one of my strong suits either... LOL. As long as somebody likes you, you'll be fine. I recently did a verbal inventory (my wife being the audience) of my true friends at this point in my life, and although initially I thought that I had more, I came up with only two... My wonderful wife and a college friend that lives in Alaska. I see my wife every day, I see my friend about once a year. Everyone else is either a relative or an acquaintance... Life goes on. Thanks again for the input, Dave D. - Original Message - From: Neil Rochford To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [TANKS] Re: Here's some more...!! Well Dave, I`ve been trying to contact this fellow ever since you brought him to our attention, I have discovered that he/them are part of the UK tank club (UKTC). The UKTC is an organisation that I have been ignored by on occasions over the last 6 years. They build a fantastic array of rc tanks and static displays,There attention to detail is remarkable with sound modules and so forth. They are not interested in having paintballs fired at there beautiful creations. Im sure they know all about us ( rctankcombat )but maybe consider us to be a little childish, playing tank paintball games and not getting down to the serious business of building tanks that look and sound 100% like the real thing. I could be wrong, Maybe they just dont like me, theres plenty that dont. listening to the accents of people on the video I cant hear one that sound even remotely Scottish, Quite a few northern voices but nowhere I can pinpoint. Neil R On Sunday, 16 December 2012 19:08:38 UTC-8, LIJagdpanther888 wrote: Hey Neil, Funny, but I meant could you verify that it's most likely from SCOTLAND?!! (Ardwell, Scotland?). Perhaps, based on the shrubbery present, the look and composition of the mud, and the prevailing weather conditions for the day... But thanks for the input regarding infernoed jeeps... Dave Geography Matters D. - Original Message - From: Neil Rochford To: rctank...@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: [TANKS] Re: Here's some more...!! I can confirm that setting a small jeep on fire will leave it in the exact condition you saw in the film, Neil Thats what happened to SV012 R On Saturday, 15 December 2012 11:59:31 UTC-8, LIJagdpanther888 wrote: Me again... This person, is a HOOT!! RCTANKSRME is his tag on YouTube... Another great one, different vein... FUNNY!! Unless you're the JEEP... I believe they are out of Scotland... Ardwell. Peter, Neil, does it sound right, can you verify this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwpv=ghdu114m4OQNR=1 Dave It doesn't take much to entertain my brain D. -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctank...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank
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In a message dated 12/18/2012 4:37:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, funkyne...@ntlworld.com writes: Actually the pain of the social rejection is enough to make a man go into his garage and not come out until he had build a fleet of 1/6th tanks, just to show a cruel word that he is a force to be reckoned with and to be taken seriously. why build a fleet (fleet? going naval now??) just build a tank that has a large paintball capacity and go to town against them. all they can do is make pretty sparks and puffs of smoke, where yours actually fires something. Chris -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
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oh and make sure you have even larger capacity as i'm sure you'll be needing to defend yourself against the irate tank owners that just had a pretty paint job Chris -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
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Well Dave, I`ve been trying to contact this fellow ever since you brought him to our attention, I have discovered that he/them are part of the UK tank club (UKTC). The UKTC is an organisation that I have been ignored by on occasions over the last 6 years. They build a fantastic array of rc tanks and static displays,There attention to detail is remarkable with sound modules and so forth. They are not interested in having paintballs fired at there beautiful creations. Im sure they know all about us ( rctankcombat )but maybe consider us to be a little childish, playing tank paintball games and not getting down to the serious business of building tanks that look and sound 100% like the real thing. I could be wrong, Maybe they just dont like me, theres plenty that dont. listening to the accents of people on the video I cant hear one that sound even remotely Scottish, Quite a few northern voices but nowhere I can pinpoint. Neil R On Sunday, 16 December 2012 19:08:38 UTC-8, LIJagdpanther888 wrote: Hey Neil, Funny, but I meant could you verify that it's most likely from SCOTLAND?!! (Ardwell, Scotland?). Perhaps, based on the shrubbery present, the look and composition of the mud, and the prevailing weather conditions for the day... But thanks for the input regarding infernoed jeeps... Dave Geography Matters D. - Original Message - *From:* Neil Rochford javascript: *To:* rctank...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Sent:* Sunday, December 16, 2012 1:27 PM *Subject:* [TANKS] Re: Here's some more...!! I can confirm that setting a small jeep on fire will leave it in the exact condition you saw in the film, Neil Thats what happened to SV012 R On Saturday, 15 December 2012 11:59:31 UTC-8, LIJagdpanther888 wrote: Me again... This person, is a HOOT!! RCTANKSRME is his tag on YouTube... Another great one, different vein... FUNNY!! Unless you're the JEEP... I believe they are out of Scotland... Ardwell. Peter, Neil, does it sound right, can you verify this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwpv=ghdu114m4OQNR=1 Dave It doesn't take much to entertain my brain D. -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctank...@googlegroups.com javascript: To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.comjavascript: Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
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I like you Neil.I think. ST -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
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You've never met him . . . :-) On Monday, 17 December 2012 15:54:47 UTC, TyngTech wrote: I like you Neil.I think. ST -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
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Hey Neil, Now that's more like it, nice detective work... I'm sorry to hear about the snub, but it sounds like you're having more fun with the hobby as it is... Being well liked is not one of my strong suits either... LOL. As long as somebody likes you, you'll be fine. I recently did a verbal inventory (my wife being the audience) of my true friends at this point in my life, and although initially I thought that I had more, I came up with only two... My wonderful wife and a college friend that lives in Alaska. I see my wife every day, I see my friend about once a year. Everyone else is either a relative or an acquaintance... Life goes on. Thanks again for the input, Dave D. - Original Message - From: Neil Rochford To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [TANKS] Re: Here's some more...!! Well Dave, I`ve been trying to contact this fellow ever since you brought him to our attention, I have discovered that he/them are part of the UK tank club (UKTC). The UKTC is an organisation that I have been ignored by on occasions over the last 6 years. They build a fantastic array of rc tanks and static displays,There attention to detail is remarkable with sound modules and so forth. They are not interested in having paintballs fired at there beautiful creations. Im sure they know all about us ( rctankcombat )but maybe consider us to be a little childish, playing tank paintball games and not getting down to the serious business of building tanks that look and sound 100% like the real thing. I could be wrong, Maybe they just dont like me, theres plenty that dont. listening to the accents of people on the video I cant hear one that sound even remotely Scottish, Quite a few northern voices but nowhere I can pinpoint. Neil R On Sunday, 16 December 2012 19:08:38 UTC-8, LIJagdpanther888 wrote: Hey Neil, Funny, but I meant could you verify that it's most likely from SCOTLAND?!! (Ardwell, Scotland?). Perhaps, based on the shrubbery present, the look and composition of the mud, and the prevailing weather conditions for the day... But thanks for the input regarding infernoed jeeps... Dave Geography Matters D. - Original Message - From: Neil Rochford To: rctank...@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: [TANKS] Re: Here's some more...!! I can confirm that setting a small jeep on fire will leave it in the exact condition you saw in the film, Neil Thats what happened to SV012 R On Saturday, 15 December 2012 11:59:31 UTC-8, LIJagdpanther888 wrote: Me again... This person, is a HOOT!! RCTANKSRME is his tag on YouTube... Another great one, different vein... FUNNY!! Unless you're the JEEP... I believe they are out of Scotland... Ardwell. Peter, Neil, does it sound right, can you verify this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwpv=ghdu114m4OQNR=1 Dave It doesn't take much to entertain my brain D. -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctank...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
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Neil, i take it there's a link to their site? any info on their source of parts for things like their tracks and wheels? would be interesting to look over what they have for information for building things or their source to buy from Chris -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
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Hey Neil, Funny, but I meant could you verify that it's most likely from SCOTLAND?!! (Ardwell, Scotland?). Perhaps, based on the shrubbery present, the look and composition of the mud, and the prevailing weather conditions for the day... But thanks for the input regarding infernoed jeeps... Dave Geography Matters D. - Original Message - From: Neil Rochford To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: [TANKS] Re: Here's some more...!! I can confirm that setting a small jeep on fire will leave it in the exact condition you saw in the film, Neil Thats what happened to SV012 R On Saturday, 15 December 2012 11:59:31 UTC-8, LIJagdpanther888 wrote: Me again... This person, is a HOOT!! RCTANKSRME is his tag on YouTube... Another great one, different vein... FUNNY!! Unless you're the JEEP... I believe they are out of Scotland... Ardwell. Peter, Neil, does it sound right, can you verify this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwpv=ghdu114m4OQNR=1 Dave It doesn't take much to entertain my brain D. -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat