Re: [RE-wrenches] Fuse sizing in battery circuits

[Ray Walters]

I just finished a rewire and we kept the Ananda power center, Allan :-)
Back when we used class T fuses more they were always over sized 
relative to Heinemann breakers.

400 amp class T fuse = 250 amp breaker= 4/0 cable
200 amp class T fuse = 175 amp breaker= 2/0 cable

I still think class T fuses are superior in some ways to breakers: they 
have better interrupt capacity and trip faster in a short circuit condition.


However, If you spend too much time thinking about and looking at the 
trip curves, you'll break your brain and special order some weird fuses 
and breakers.  (anybody need a 350 amp class T fuse?)
 Just follow the inverter manufacturer's recommendations and all will 
be well.
On the other hand, William has brought up a topic I have harped on for 
years:  Having the OCPD in the cabinet doesn't protect the majority of 
the circuit.  Class T fuses at the battery terminals do, but they're not 
rated for the corrosive environment.  I have thrown a few class T fuses 
away that had acid eating away at the ends.
I don't have the solution, but I will continue to point out that this is 
a real problem. Dropping a wrench across the battery terminals can lead 
to a spectacular failure that not only can cause a fire, but might even 
cause a battery explosion, yet NEC offers no protection.

We use insulated wrenches from experience, and hope for the best.

R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760

On 4/5/2013 8:29 PM, William Miller wrote:

Friends:

Good topic.  Some questions:

1. Most manufacturer's present an installation guide that shows one 
OCPD in the battery circuit and that is in the BOS cabinet.  This 
means the battery leads are unprotected.  Do we need an OPCD at the 
battery terminals?


2. Class T fuses are generally recommended for this application. The 
data shows them as "fast acting."  Is this a problem?  Will they act 
too fast and open during normal surge loads?


Thanks in advance!

William Miller






Troy,

Overcurrent device size is matched to the conductor size. The inverse 
time constant nature of an overcurrent device can typically handle 
the surge currents as long as conductor sizing has truly been done 
correctly for the conductor. Circuit breakers are preferred to fuses 
because they can be reset.


There has been volumes written on this issue. The constant current at 
lowest battery voltage should be used, plus the ac ripple content on 
the battery circuit. This is usually a much larger conductor than 
your average designer will plan for. The best thing is to look at 
Midnight, Outback, and Schneider and see what size overcurrent 
devices they require for their products. That will give you a good 
clue as to how to size the conductor and overcurrent device.


Bill.

*From:* re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of 
*Troy Harvey

*Sent:* Friday, April 05, 2013 3:38 PM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Fuse sizing in battery circuits

I've got a question about battery string fusing. Typically we size 
the wire from the batteries to the inverter based on continuous 
rating procedures (max power/efficiency)*125%.


However a 6kW inverter, can peak at 12kW for 5-10 seconds, doubling 
the source current. That is no big deal for the wire, because it is a 
short time frame... little heat will be generated. However, in fusing 
the sub-strings, you need to account for that peak surge current so 
you don't blow fuses all the time. But if you put a 500-1000 amp fuse 
on a 4/0 wire, above the max surge draw of the inverter, the wire 
will be under-protected for its ampacity rating. Any thoughts on the 
catch-22?



___
List sponsored by Home Power magazine

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org



___
List sponsored by Home Power magazine

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fuse sizing in battery circuits

[William Miller]

Friends:

Good topic.  Some questions:

1. Most manufacturer's present an installation guide that shows one OCPD in 
the battery circuit and that is in the BOS cabinet.  This means the battery 
leads are unprotected.  Do we need an OPCD at the battery terminals?


2. Class T fuses are generally recommended for this application.  The data 
shows them as "fast acting."  Is this a problem?  Will they act too fast 
and open during normal surge loads?


Thanks in advance!

William Miller






Troy,

Overcurrent device size is matched to the conductor size. The inverse time 
constant nature of an overcurrent device can typically handle the surge 
currents as long as conductor sizing has truly been done correctly for the 
conductor. Circuit breakers are preferred to fuses because they can be reset.


There has been volumes written on this issue. The constant current at 
lowest battery voltage should be used, plus the ac ripple content on the 
battery circuit. This is usually a much larger conductor than your average 
designer will plan for. The best thing is to look at Midnight, Outback, 
and Schneider and see what size overcurrent devices they require for their 
products. That will give you a good clue as to how to size the conductor 
and overcurrent device.


Bill.

From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Troy Harvey

Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 3:38 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Fuse sizing in battery circuits

I've got a question about battery string fusing. Typically we size the 
wire from the batteries to the inverter based on continuous rating 
procedures (max power/efficiency)*125%.


However a 6kW inverter, can peak at 12kW for 5-10 seconds, doubling the 
source current. That is no big deal for the wire, because it is a short 
time frame... little heat will be generated. However, in fusing the 
sub-strings, you need to account for that peak surge current so you don't 
blow fuses all the time. But if you put a 500-1000 amp fuse on a 4/0 wire, 
above the max surge draw of the inverter, the wire will be under-protected 
for its ampacity rating. Any thoughts on the catch-22?


___
List sponsored by Home Power magazine

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fuse sizing in battery circuits

[Bill Brooks]

Troy,

 

Overcurrent device size is matched to the conductor size. The inverse time
constant nature of an overcurrent device can typically handle the surge
currents as long as conductor sizing has truly been done correctly for the
conductor. Circuit breakers are preferred to fuses because they can be
reset. 

 

There has been volumes written on this issue. The constant current at lowest
battery voltage should be used, plus the ac ripple content on the battery
circuit. This is usually a much larger conductor than your average designer
will plan for. The best thing is to look at Midnight, Outback, and Schneider
and see what size overcurrent devices they require for their products. That
will give you a good clue as to how to size the conductor and overcurrent
device.

 

Bill.

 

From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Troy Harvey
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 3:38 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Fuse sizing in battery circuits

 

I've got a question about battery string fusing. Typically we size the wire
from the batteries to the inverter based on continuous rating procedures
(max power/efficiency)*125%. 

 

However a 6kW inverter, can peak at 12kW for 5-10 seconds, doubling the
source current. That is no big deal for the wire, because it is a short time
frame... little heat will be generated. However, in fusing the sub-strings,
you need to account for that peak surge current so you don't blow fuses all
the time. But if you put a 500-1000 amp fuse on a 4/0 wire, above the max
surge draw of the inverter, the wire will be under-protected for its
ampacity rating. Any thoughts on the catch-22?

 

 

thanks,

Troy Harvey
-
Principal Engineer
Heliocentric
801-453-9434
tahar...@heliocentric.org

___
List sponsored by Home Power magazine

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org

[RE-wrenches] Fuse sizing in battery circuits

[Troy Harvey]

I've got a question about battery string fusing. Typically we size the wire 
from the batteries to the inverter based on continuous rating procedures (max 
power/efficiency)*125%. 

However a 6kW inverter, can peak at 12kW for 5-10 seconds, doubling the source 
current. That is no big deal for the wire, because it is a short time frame... 
little heat will be generated. However, in fusing the sub-strings, you need to 
account for that peak surge current so you don't blow fuses all the time. But 
if you put a 500-1000 amp fuse on a 4/0 wire, above the max surge draw of the 
inverter, the wire will be under-protected for its ampacity rating. Any 
thoughts on the catch-22?


thanks,

Troy Harvey
-
Principal Engineer
Heliocentric
801-453-9434
tahar...@heliocentric.org

___
List sponsored by Home Power magazine

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Whisper Parts

[Chris Schaefer]

Thanks for the link. Here’s a question. Let’s assume we can’t get replacement 
parts. For someone with an old 500(175HV) high voltage unit is there anyone 
that has replaced the turbine itself but still used the EZ-Wire controller? 
Reason I ask is the current wire run is 8ga over 900ft on an off-grid system 
and the controller has worked flawlessly for over 12 years (no fires RoyJ). To 
dig up the wires (in conduit sized for that GA) to run at 48Vdc would be cost 
prohibited. Thus I’m looking for another high voltage unit even if it means 
replacing the EZ-wire. A three bladed unit would even be better. What say you?

 

Christopher

Solar & Wind FX

 

From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of 
toddc...@finestplanet.com
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 17:08
To: RE-wrenches
Cc: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Whisper Parts

 

here is the link:

http://www.luminousrenewable.com/



 

On Friday, April 5, 2013 2:00pm, "Roy Butler"  said:

The Whisper line, at least the 200 and 500, went to Luminous, a large battery 
manufacturer in India.
Whether or not they will be continuing support for legacy turbines remains to 
be seen.

The adventure known as small wind continues ;-)

Roy Butler NABCEP Certified Small Wind Installer® NABCEP Certified Solar PV 
Installer® NYSERDA eligible PV & wind installer Four Winds Renewable Energy, 
LLC 8902 Route 46, Arkport, NY 14807 607-324-9747 www.four-winds-energy.com 
Join us at the 9th Annual Small Wind Conference A Gathering of Installers, 
Manufacturers, Dealers, & Distributors June 18 and 19, 2013 in Stevens Point, 
Wisconsin www.smallwindconference.com Although no trees were killed in the 
sending of this message, a large number of electrons were terribly 
inconvenienced. 

On 4/5/2013 4:28 PM, Chris Schaefer wrote:

Had to share the link below with everyone on the list (I’m not a member of the 
wind list so someone send there to). But even more fun is the comments at the 
end of the article. Primus is just the AIR products. No Whisper parts. If 
anyone finds the parts please share the source.

http://azdailysun.com/news/local/last-days-for-local-turbines/article_31662958-c28d-5af4-99ee-8f0e6f19f595.html
 

Christopher Schaefer

Solar & Wind FX, Inc.

From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Chris Daum
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 11:57
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Whisper Parts

 

Folks:

 

I may be incorrect, but I think a company called Primus Windpower took over a 
chunk of SWWP - 928-607-7034.

 

Good luck.

 

Chris Daum

Oasis Montana Inc.

 


  _  





Sent from Finest Planet WebMail.

___
List sponsored by Home Power magazine

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Whisper Parts

[toddcory]

here is the link:

[http://www.luminousrenewable.com/] http://www.luminousrenewable.com/


 
On Friday, April 5, 2013 2:00pm, "Roy Butler"  said:



The Whisper   line, at least the 200 and 500, went to Luminous, a large 
  battery manufacturer in India.
Whether or not they will be   continuing support for legacy 
turbines remains to be seen.

The adventure known as small wind continues ;-)


Roy ButlerNABCEP Certified Small Wind Installer®NABCEP Certified Solar PV 
Installer®NYSERDA eligible PV & wind installerFour Winds Renewable Energy, 
LLC8902 Route 46, Arkport, NY 14807607-324-9747  
[http://www.four-winds-energy.com] www.four-winds-energy.comJoin us at the 9th 
Annual Small Wind ConferenceA Gathering of Installers, Manufacturers, Dealers, 
& DistributorsJune 18 and 19, 2013 in Stevens Point, 
Wisconsin[http://www.smallwindconference.com] 
www.smallwindconference.comAlthough no trees were killed in the sending of this 
message, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.  
  On 4/5/2013 4:28 PM, Chris Schaefer wrote:

Had to share the link below with everyone on the list (I’m not a
 member of the wind list so someone send there to). But even
 more fun is the comments at the end of the article. Primus is just 
the AIR products. No Whisper parts. If anyone finds the parts 
please share the source.
[http://azdailysun.com/news/local/last-days-for-local-turbines/article_31662958-c28d-5af4-99ee-8f0e6f19f595.html]
 
http://azdailysun.com/news/local/last-days-for-local-turbines/article_31662958-c28d-5af4-99ee-8f0e6f19f595.html
 
 
Christopher Schaefer
Solar & Wind FX, Inc.
 


From: [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] 
re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
[[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] 
mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On   Behalf 
Of Chris Daum
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 11:57
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Whisper Parts
 
Folks:
 
I may be incorrect, but I think a company called Primus 
Windpower took over a chunk of SWWP - 928-607-7034.
 
Good luck.
 
Chris Daum
Oasis Montana Inc.
 



Sent from Finest Planet WebMail.
___
List sponsored by Home Power magazine

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Whisper Parts

[Chris Daum]

Oh yeah:  www.luminousrenewable.com 

  _  

From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Roy Butler
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 3:01 PM
To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Whisper Parts


The Whisper line, at least the 200 and 500, went to Luminous, a large
battery manufacturer in India.
Whether or not they will be continuing support for legacy turbines remains
to be seen.

The adventure known as small wind continues ;-)


Roy Butler

NABCEP Certified Small Wind InstallerR

NABCEP Certified Solar PV InstallerR

NYSERDA eligible PV & wind installer

Four Winds Renewable Energy, LLC

8902 Route 46, Arkport, NY 14807

607-324-9747  www.four-winds-energy.com



Join us at the 9th Annual Small Wind Conference

A Gathering of Installers, Manufacturers, Dealers, & Distributors

June 18 and 19, 2013 in Stevens Point, Wisconsin

www.smallwindconference.com



Although no trees were killed in the sending of this message, 

a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.




On 4/5/2013 4:28 PM, Chris Schaefer wrote:


Had to share the link below with everyone on the list (I'm not a member of
the wind list so someone send there to). But even more fun is the comments
at the end of the article. Primus is just the AIR products. No Whisper
parts. If anyone finds the parts please share the source.

http://azdailysun.com/news/local/last-days-for-local-turbines/article_316629
58-c28d-5af4-99ee-8f0e6f19f595.html 



Christopher Schaefer

Solar & Wind FX, Inc.



From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Chris Daum
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 11:57
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Whisper Parts



Folks:



I may be incorrect, but I think a company called Primus Windpower took over
a chunk of SWWP - 928-607-7034.



Good luck.



Chris Daum

Oasis Montana Inc.



  _  



___
List sponsored by Home Power magazine

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Whisper Parts

[Roy Butler]

  
  
The Whisper
  line, at least the 200 and 500, went to Luminous, a large
  battery manufacturer in India.
  Whether or not they will be
  continuing support for legacy turbines remains to be seen.
  
  The adventure known as small wind
continues ;-)

  
  Roy Butler
NABCEP Certified Small Wind Installer®
NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer®
NYSERDA eligible PV & wind installer
Four Winds Renewable Energy, LLC
8902 Route 46, Arkport, NY 14807
607-324-9747  www.four-winds-energy.com

Join us at the 9th Annual Small Wind Conference
A Gathering of Installers, Manufacturers, Dealers, & Distributors
June 18 and 19, 2013 in Stevens Point, Wisconsin
www.smallwindconference.com

Although no trees were killed in the sending of this message, 
a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.



  On 4/5/2013 4:28 PM, Chris Schaefer wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
Had
to share the link below with everyone on the list (I’m not a
member of the wind list so someone send there to). But even
more fun is the comments at the end of the article. Primus
is just the AIR products. No Whisper parts. If anyone finds
the parts please share the source.
http://azdailysun.com/news/local/last-days-for-local-turbines/article_31662958-c28d-5af4-99ee-8f0e6f19f595.html

 
Christopher
Schaefer
Solar
& Wind FX, Inc.
 

  
From:
re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On
  Behalf Of Chris Daum
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 11:57
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Whisper Parts
  

 
Folks:
 
I
may be incorrect, but I think a company called Primus
Windpower took over a chunk of SWWP - 928-607-7034.
 
Good
luck.
 
Chris
Daum
Oasis
Montana Inc.
 

  

  


  


___
List sponsored by Home Power magazine

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Whisper Parts

[Chris Schaefer]

Had to share the link below with everyone on the list (I'm not a member of
the wind list so someone send there to). But even more fun is the comments
at the end of the article. Primus is just the AIR products. No Whisper
parts. If anyone finds the parts please share the source.

http://azdailysun.com/news/local/last-days-for-local-turbines/article_316629
58-c28d-5af4-99ee-8f0e6f19f595.html 

 

Christopher Schaefer

Solar & Wind FX, Inc.

 

From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Chris Daum
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 11:57
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Whisper Parts

 

Folks:

 

I may be incorrect, but I think a company called Primus Windpower took over
a chunk of SWWP - 928-607-7034.

 

Good luck.

 

Chris Daum

Oasis Montana Inc.

 

  _  

From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 9:44 AM
To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Whisper Parts

Last I saw the building is locked by the landlord, So SWWP may not have
access to these parts?

Ryan



On 4/5/2013 11:29 AM, toddc...@finestplanet.com wrote:

in addition, i am looking for a spare blade set for the same unit (whisper
100). i heard there was a warehouse full of these parts when swwp went out
of business... why they dont answer emails or phone messages is a mystery.
i'd think they would want to sell what they can. if anyone has any ideas on
this please contact me off list.

 

todd

 

 

 

 

On Friday, April 5, 2013 8:21am, "Jeremy Rodriguez- All Solar Inc."
  said:

> If anyone has a Whisper 100 (H40) controller, a good EZ WIRE would do,
please
> contact me off list
> 
> Jeremy
> All solar
> Sent via BlackBerry. Sorry for typos and shorthand!
> ___
> List sponsored by Home Power magazine
> 
> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
> 
> Change email address & settings:
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
> 
> List-Archive:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
> 
> List rules & etiquette:
> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm
> 
> Check out participant bios:
> www.members.re-wrenches.org
> 
>




Sent from Finest Planet WebMail.





___
List sponsored by Home Power magazine
 
List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
 
Change email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
 
List-Archive:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
 
List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm
 
Check out participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org
 

 

___
List sponsored by Home Power magazine

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Whisper Parts

[Chris Daum]

Folks:
 
I may be incorrect, but I think a company called Primus Windpower took over
a chunk of SWWP - 928-607-7034.
 
Good luck.
 
Chris Daum
Oasis Montana Inc.

  _  

From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 9:44 AM
To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Whisper Parts


Last I saw the building is locked by the landlord, So SWWP may not have
access to these parts?

Ryan



On 4/5/2013 11:29 AM, toddc...@finestplanet.com wrote:


in addition, i am looking for a spare blade set for the same unit (whisper
100). i heard there was a warehouse full of these parts when swwp went out
of business... why they dont answer emails or phone messages is a mystery.
i'd think they would want to sell what they can. if anyone has any ideas on
this please contact me off list.

 

todd

 

 

 

 

On Friday, April 5, 2013 8:21am, "Jeremy Rodriguez- All Solar Inc."
  said:



> If anyone has a Whisper 100 (H40) controller, a good EZ WIRE would do,
please
> contact me off list
> 
> Jeremy
> All solar
> Sent via BlackBerry. Sorry for typos and shorthand!
> ___
> List sponsored by Home Power magazine
> 
> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
> 
> Change email address & settings:
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
> 
> List-Archive:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
> 
> List rules & etiquette:
> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm
> 
> Check out participant bios:
> www.members.re-wrenches.org
> 
>




Sent from Finest Planet WebMail.

 

___

List sponsored by Home Power magazine



List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org



Change email address & settings:

http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org



List-Archive:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org



List rules & etiquette:

www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm



Check out participant bios:

www.members.re-wrenches.org




___
List sponsored by Home Power magazine

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Whisper Parts

[Ryan]

Last I saw the building is locked by the landlord, So SWWP may not have 
access to these parts?


Ryan


On 4/5/2013 11:29 AM, toddc...@finestplanet.com wrote:


in addition, i am looking for a spare blade set for the same unit 
(whisper 100). i heard there was a warehouse full of these parts when 
swwp went out of business... why they dont answer emails or phone 
messages is a mystery. i'd think they would want to sell what they 
can. if anyone has any ideas on this please contact me off list.


todd

On Friday, April 5, 2013 8:21am, "Jeremy Rodriguez- All Solar Inc." 
 said:


> If anyone has a Whisper 100 (H40) controller, a good EZ WIRE would 
do, please

> contact me off list
>
> Jeremy
> All solar
> Sent via BlackBerry. Sorry for typos and shorthand!
> ___
> List sponsored by Home Power magazine
>
> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
>
> Change email address & settings:
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>
> List-Archive: 
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

>
> List rules & etiquette:
> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm
>
> Check out participant bios:
> www.members.re-wrenches.org
>
>




Sent from Finest Planet WebMail.


___
List sponsored by Home Power magazine

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org



___
List sponsored by Home Power magazine

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Whisper Parts

[toddcory]

in addition, i am looking for a spare blade set for the same unit (whisper 
100). i heard there was a warehouse full of these parts when swwp went out of 
business... why they dont answer emails or phone messages is a mystery. i'd 
think they would want to sell what they can. if anyone has any ideas on this 
please contact me off list.
 
todd
 
 
 
 
On Friday, April 5, 2013 8:21am, "Jeremy Rodriguez- All Solar Inc." 
 said:



> If anyone has a Whisper 100 (H40) controller, a good EZ WIRE would do, please
> contact me off list
> 
> Jeremy
> All solar
> Sent via BlackBerry. Sorry for typos and shorthand!
> ___
> List sponsored by Home Power magazine
> 
> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
> 
> Change email address & settings:
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
> 
> List-Archive: 
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
> 
> List rules & etiquette:
> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm
> 
> Check out participant bios:
> www.members.re-wrenches.org
> 
>


Sent from Finest Planet WebMail.
___
List sponsored by Home Power magazine

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org

[RE-wrenches] Whisper Parts

[Jeremy Rodriguez- All Solar Inc.]

If anyone has a Whisper 100 (H40) controller, a good EZ WIRE would do, please 
contact me off list

Jeremy
All solar
Sent via BlackBerry. Sorry for typos and shorthand!
___
List sponsored by Home Power magazine

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org