Re: [RE-wrenches] PSX-240 wiring question
Allan, According to Wikipedia, it is not a typo. It is, however, an excellent example of lousy technical writing / documentation. You are correct to zero in on it What Outback seems to have done, is switch from a four line drawing on the input side of the circuit to a one line drawing on the output. Bad. And, it was a confusing drawing to begin with. However, I think 120VAC to Neutral was correctly meant to mean, as measured from that point to the neutral bar. Your proposed 120VAC output to Inverter is much better. Allow me to digress point out, most consumers, homeowners, tradesmen, and engineers only read the owners manuals when forced to. One reason, perhaps, the manuals, more often than not, suck. A pet peeve of mine. Great documentation takes time and talent. Both cost real money. I agree. Your solution works. It really is that simple. Dick Ratico Solarwind Electric ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Search mode
Hello, A friend of mine in the woods just put in a new xantrax inverter and is having a search mode problem. They can't get 25W search mode to work and are stuck with using the 50W setting. So they've had to put a few incandescents in to make this setting work. His calls to tech support have been less then helpful. Advice I can pass on? Thanks as always! Jesse Sent from my iPhone ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Search mode
HI Jesse, Can you tell us which model inverter? jay peltz power On Sep 8, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Jesse Dahl wrote: Hello, A friend of mine in the woods just put in a new xantrax inverter and is having a search mode problem. They can't get 25W search mode to work and are stuck with using the 50W setting. So they've had to put a few incandescents in to make this setting work. His calls to tech support have been less then helpful. Advice I can pass on? Thanks as always! Jesse ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Search mode
Unfortunately I was talking to them at a function and they didn't know. They are going to send me that info this evening. Jesse Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2013, at 6:05 PM, jay peltz j...@asis.com wrote: HI Jesse, Can you tell us which model inverter? jay peltz power On Sep 8, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Jesse Dahl wrote: Hello, A friend of mine in the woods just put in a new xantrax inverter and is having a search mode problem. They can't get 25W search mode to work and are stuck with using the 50W setting. So they've had to put a few incandescents in to make this setting work. His calls to tech support have been less then helpful. Advice I can pass on? Thanks as always! Jesse ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Search mode
In my experience, if the loads to bring it out of search mode are very reactive all your bets are off, doesn't matter who made the inverter. The solution could be as simple as changing which brand of CFL they depend on to bring the inverter out of search. Have you tried Euro CFLs vs Chinese? And so on, ad infinitum. Using an incandescent eliminates that variable for you, exactly where I would start on the troubleshooting. If the system is really so tiny that search mode is really needed..I say add more PV so the batteries are near 100% full almost everynight at sundown. I haven't programmed an inverter for search mode for a long time. Just my two cents. Dan Fink, Executive Director; Otherpower Buckville Energy Consulting Buckville Publications LLC NABCEP / IREC accredited Continuing Education Providers 970.672.4342 On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Jesse Dahl dahlso...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately I was talking to them at a function and they didn't know. They are going to send me that info this evening. Jesse Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2013, at 6:05 PM, jay peltz j...@asis.com wrote: HI Jesse, Can you tell us which model inverter? jay peltz power On Sep 8, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Jesse Dahl wrote: Hello, A friend of mine in the woods just put in a new xantrax inverter and is having a search mode problem. They can't get 25W search mode to work and are stuck with using the 50W setting. So they've had to put a few incandescents in to make this setting work. His calls to tech support have been less then helpful. Advice I can pass on? Thanks as always! Jesse ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Search mode
They basically started all over after their old system started showing it signs. They added 4 more modules and do end up near 100% at the end of the day. Tech support mentioned adding a small inverter for the small lighting loads. Many of the homes loads are 12V (fridge, some lighting). I will mention brands of CFL. Jesse Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Dan Fink danbo...@gmail.com wrote: In my experience, if the loads to bring it out of search mode are very reactive all your bets are off, doesn't matter who made the inverter. The solution could be as simple as changing which brand of CFL they depend on to bring the inverter out of search. Have you tried Euro CFLs vs Chinese? And so on, ad infinitum. Using an incandescent eliminates that variable for you, exactly where I would start on the troubleshooting. If the system is really so tiny that search mode is really needed..I say add more PV so the batteries are near 100% full almost everynight at sundown. I haven't programmed an inverter for search mode for a long time. Just my two cents. Dan Fink, Executive Director; Otherpower Buckville Energy Consulting Buckville Publications LLC NABCEP / IREC accredited Continuing Education Providers 970.672.4342 On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Jesse Dahl dahlso...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately I was talking to them at a function and they didn't know. They are going to send me that info this evening. Jesse Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2013, at 6:05 PM, jay peltz j...@asis.com wrote: HI Jesse, Can you tell us which model inverter? jay peltz power On Sep 8, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Jesse Dahl wrote: Hello, A friend of mine in the woods just put in a new xantrax inverter and is having a search mode problem. They can't get 25W search mode to work and are stuck with using the 50W setting. So they've had to put a few incandescents in to make this setting work. His calls to tech support have been less then helpful. Advice I can pass on? Thanks as always! Jesse ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Search mode
I would then say measure non-search mode (always on) current draw over a few days or weeks. How significant is it? Are there other ways to mitigate it? DAN On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Jesse Dahl dahlso...@gmail.com wrote: They basically started all over after their old system started showing it signs. They added 4 more modules and do end up near 100% at the end of the day. Tech support mentioned adding a small inverter for the small lighting loads. Many of the homes loads are 12V (fridge, some lighting). I will mention brands of CFL. Jesse Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Dan Fink danbo...@gmail.com wrote: In my experience, if the loads to bring it out of search mode are very reactive all your bets are off, doesn't matter who made the inverter. The solution could be as simple as changing which brand of CFL they depend on to bring the inverter out of search. Have you tried Euro CFLs vs Chinese? And so on, ad infinitum. Using an incandescent eliminates that variable for you, exactly where I would start on the troubleshooting. If the system is really so tiny that search mode is really needed..I say add more PV so the batteries are near 100% full almost everynight at sundown. I haven't programmed an inverter for search mode for a long time. Just my two cents. Dan Fink, Executive Director; Otherpower Buckville Energy Consulting Buckville Publications LLC NABCEP / IREC accredited Continuing Education Providers 970.672.4342 On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Jesse Dahl dahlso...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately I was talking to them at a function and they didn't know. They are going to send me that info this evening. Jesse Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2013, at 6:05 PM, jay peltz j...@asis.com wrote: HI Jesse, Can you tell us which model inverter? jay peltz power On Sep 8, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Jesse Dahl wrote: Hello, A friend of mine in the woods just put in a new xantrax inverter and is having a search mode problem. They can't get 25W search mode to work and are stuck with using the 50W setting. So they've had to put a few incandescents in to make this setting work. His calls to tech support have been less then helpful. Advice I can pass on? Thanks as always! Jesse ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] advice on testing turbine on tower
I have a client with a Whisper 200 that failed recently. It was shortly after a severe lightning storm so the assumption was that the controller got fried. The wind turbine would not spin, it was as if the brake was on - if you know the Whisper, the brake is electrical, basically a shorting of the three phases. When the turbine was disconnected from the controller it would spin up and produce voltage at the leads. So the controller was replaced with a Clipper and Classic and the same problem still exists. I have resisted pulling the turbine down as it is a complicated sidehill installation but it looks like it will have to be done. Before I do that I thought I'd throw this out into the Wrenches community to see if anyone could offer suggestions. My conclusion is that there is some kind of short in the electronics in the turbine that only shows up when it is under load, i.e. has a battery connection. Suggestions, ideas? If the turbine is fried I guess I'll be looking for another turbine that would work on the 80' tower installation already in place, I know SWWP has folded it's tent. Ron Young ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] advice on testing turbine on tower
Is there a lightning arrestor of any kind installed? If so, check for continuity (ohm out) between the leads of it; there should be none. If there is continuity the device can be replaced and the turbine will be up and running. If the arrestors get fried, they can act like a shunt across the 3 phases of turbines which acts like a magnetic brake. My 2cents. Ryan Harkins Synergy Renewable Systems, LLC On Sep 8, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Ron Young solarea...@solareagle.com wrote: I have a client with a Whisper 200 that failed recently. It was shortly after a severe lightning storm so the assumption was that the controller got fried. The wind turbine would not spin, it was as if the brake was on - if you know the Whisper, the brake is electrical, basically a shorting of the three phases. When the turbine was disconnected from the controller it would spin up and produce voltage at the leads. So the controller was replaced with a Clipper and Classic and the same problem still exists. I have resisted pulling the turbine down as it is a complicated sidehill installation but it looks like it will have to be done. Before I do that I thought I'd throw this out into the Wrenches community to see if anyone could offer suggestions. My conclusion is that there is some kind of short in the electronics in the turbine that only shows up when it is under load, i.e. has a battery connection. Suggestions, ideas? If the turbine is fried I guess I'll be looking for another turbine that would work on the 80' tower installation already in place, I know SWWP has folded it's tent. Ron Young ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] advice on testing turbine on tower
I have had the same problem recently. Make sure you check phase to ground voltage not just phase to phase. I had a whisper 100 that had the exact symptom and I replaced the controller with one of the new Luminous RE units. The old controller actually checked out fine on a known good turbine! Waiting on an upper casting assy now. One of the windings is apparently shorted Jeremy All Solar Penrose CO Sent by Jeremy's iPhone. Sorry for typos and shorthand! On Sep 8, 2013, at 7:14 PM, Ron Young solarea...@solareagle.com wrote: I have a client with a Whisper 200 that failed recently. It was shortly after a severe lightning storm so the assumption was that the controller got fried. The wind turbine would not spin, it was as if the brake was on - if you know the Whisper, the brake is electrical, basically a shorting of the three phases. When the turbine was disconnected from the controller it would spin up and produce voltage at the leads. So the controller was replaced with a Clipper and Classic and the same problem still exists. I have resisted pulling the turbine down as it is a complicated sidehill installation but it looks like it will have to be done. Before I do that I thought I'd throw this out into the Wrenches community to see if anyone could offer suggestions. My conclusion is that there is some kind of short in the electronics in the turbine that only shows up when it is under load, i.e. has a battery connection. Suggestions, ideas? If the turbine is fried I guess I'll be looking for another turbine that would work on the 80' tower installation already in place, I know SWWP has folded it's tent. Ron Young ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] advice on testing turbine on tower
Thanks Ryan, there is a new Midnite arrestor in the Clipper and I don't think that is the prob. but will check. There are two Delta LA's in the main Outback panel and I don't think they're involved. Ron On 2013-09-08, at 6:24 PM, Synergy Renewable Systems ryan.hark...@energycraft.com wrote: Is there a lightning arrestor of any kind installed? If so, check for continuity (ohm out) between the leads of it; there should be none. If there is continuity the device can be replaced and the turbine will be up and running. If the arrestors get fried, they can act like a shunt across the 3 phases of turbines which acts like a magnetic brake. My 2cents. Ryan Harkins Synergy Renewable Systems, LLC On Sep 8, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Ron Young solarea...@solareagle.com wrote: I have a client with a Whisper 200 that failed recently. It was shortly after a severe lightning storm so the assumption was that the controller got fried. The wind turbine would not spin, it was as if the brake was on - if you know the Whisper, the brake is electrical, basically a shorting of the three phases. When the turbine was disconnected from the controller it would spin up and produce voltage at the leads. So the controller was replaced with a Clipper and Classic and the same problem still exists. I have resisted pulling the turbine down as it is a complicated sidehill installation but it looks like it will have to be done. Before I do that I thought I'd throw this out into the Wrenches community to see if anyone could offer suggestions. My conclusion is that there is some kind of short in the electronics in the turbine that only shows up when it is under load, i.e. has a battery connection. Suggestions, ideas? If the turbine is fried I guess I'll be looking for another turbine that would work on the 80' tower installation already in place, I know SWWP has folded it's tent. Ron Young ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] advice on testing turbine on tower
Hi Jeremy, I'm strongly suspecting that there is a winding short. What do you mean by upper casting assy? Do you mean the whole turbine unit? If so, who supplies them now? Ron On 2013-09-08, at 7:51 PM, All Solar allso...@scswifi.net wrote: I have had the same problem recently. Make sure you check phase to ground voltage not just phase to phase. I had a whisper 100 that had the exact symptom and I replaced the controller with one of the new Luminous RE units. The old controller actually checked out fine on a known good turbine! Waiting on an upper casting assy now. One of the windings is apparently shorted Jeremy All Solar Penrose CO Sent by Jeremy's iPhone. Sorry for typos and shorthand! On Sep 8, 2013, at 7:14 PM, Ron Young solarea...@solareagle.com wrote: I have a client with a Whisper 200 that failed recently. It was shortly after a severe lightning storm so the assumption was that the controller got fried. The wind turbine would not spin, it was as if the brake was on - if you know the Whisper, the brake is electrical, basically a shorting of the three phases. When the turbine was disconnected from the controller it would spin up and produce voltage at the leads. So the controller was replaced with a Clipper and Classic and the same problem still exists. I have resisted pulling the turbine down as it is a complicated sidehill installation but it looks like it will have to be done. Before I do that I thought I'd throw this out into the Wrenches community to see if anyone could offer suggestions. My conclusion is that there is some kind of short in the electronics in the turbine that only shows up when it is under load, i.e. has a battery connection. Suggestions, ideas? If the turbine is fried I guess I'll be looking for another turbine that would work on the 80' tower installation already in place, I know SWWP has folded it's tent. Ron Young ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] advice on testing turbine on tower
Ron, Depending on the Clipper version, there may be a jumper One of 3 in a row in the front of the Clipper circuit board that, if installed on the right, may be making the Clipper try to turn on its auxiliary power supply at a very low voltage when the turbine isn't spinning fast enough to get over that hump. Sometimes that can have a loading down effect on the turbine before it has enough ~Ooomph~ to overcome that draw. Lablelled J1, J2 and J3 in-between the PWM input connector and that Batt In connector. Just remove the jumper and maybe hang it on one of the pins to hold it or toss it. If that doesn't help, disconnect the Classic from the Clipper/Turbine to make sure that is not the problem. See if that helps. boB On 9/8/2013 6:14 PM, Ron Young wrote: I have a client with a Whisper 200 that failed recently. It was shortly after a severe lightning storm so the assumption was that the controller got fried. The wind turbine would not spin, it was as if the brake was on - if you know the Whisper, the brake is electrical, basically a shorting of the three phases. When the turbine was disconnected from the controller it would spin up and produce voltage at the leads. So the controller was replaced with a Clipper and Classic and the same problem still exists. I have resisted pulling the turbine down as it is a complicated sidehill installation but it looks like it will have to be done. Before I do that I thought I'd throw this out into the Wrenches community to see if anyone could offer suggestions. My conclusion is that there is some kind of short in the electronics in the turbine that only shows up when it is under load, i.e. has a battery connection. Suggestions, ideas? If the turbine is fried I guess I'll be looking for another turbine that would work on the 80' tower installation already in place, I know SWWP has folded it's tent. Ron Young ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
