Re: [RE-wrenches] Outdoor rated insulation covering for Solar Water Heating Systems

[Darryl Thayer]

There is a product made by John's Mansville that is a thin PVC covering
that will snap over the outside of the insulated pipe I believe it the same
one that Glenn was referring to I've purchased it from Granger

On Nov 3, 2017 7:21 PM, "Glenn Burt"  wrote:

How about the white PVC jacketing? You can buy fitted elbow covers and
other fitted parts as well. Probably paintable in any color to blend into
location.
http://www.buyinsulationproductstore.com/pvc-cut-and-curl-jacketing-w-
ssl-3ft/

-Glenn

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Subject: [RE-wrenches] Outdoor rated insulation covering for Solar Water
Heating Systems

I would like to add a covering to the Armorflex insulation we installed on
a solar water heating system. Can anyone recommend a manufacturer's product
that a reasonably competent person can install?  Right now we have wrapped
the insulation in UV resistant tape, but it doesn't look all that great.
Thank you, Chris

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Outdoor rated insulation covering for Solar Water Heating Systems

[Dana]

I agree, AL jacket is the only way to go, it is spendy but permanent. I have 
had approved PVC jacketing  look like hell after 2-3 years at elevation and 
unhappy clients.


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From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of August Goers
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 12:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Outdoor rated insulation covering for Solar Water 
Heating Systems

Chris - I agree with Carl that aluminum "cut and roll" jacketing is the only 
way to go for longevity. It is a pain to install but once it's done it will 
last the duration of the system. There is a video on this website showing the 
idea:

http://www.buyinsulationproductstore.com/aluminum-jacket-for-pipe-insulation/

-August



On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Carl Hansen  wrote:

> Chris, for several years I've been using embossed, rolled aluminum, it 
> comes in 4 foot lengths and split 90's and T's are available for it.  
> We get it from the local insulation outfit called Selle Supply, its 
> paintable and totally resistant to UV's and birds.  Its custom made 
> for the pipe size and insulation thickness and its assembled with short tap 
> screws.
>
> Carl Hansen
>
> Hansen Elect.
>
> 505 470-0770
>
>
> On 11/3/2017 9:06 AM, cwarfel wrote:
>
>> I would like to add a covering to the Armorflex insulation we 
>> installed on a solar water heating system. Can anyone recommend a 
>> manufacturer's product that a reasonably competent person can 
>> install?  Right now we have wrapped the insulation in UV resistant 
>> tape, but it doesn't look all that great.  Thank you, Chris
>>
>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Outdoor rated insulation covering for Solar Water Heating Systems

[Glenn Burt]

How about the white PVC jacketing? You can buy fitted elbow covers and other 
fitted parts as well. Probably paintable in any color to blend into location.
http://www.buyinsulationproductstore.com/pvc-cut-and-curl-jacketing-w-ssl-3ft/

-Glenn

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Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 11:07 AM
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Subject: [RE-wrenches] Outdoor rated insulation covering for Solar Water 
Heating Systems

I would like to add a covering to the Armorflex insulation we installed on a 
solar water heating system. Can anyone recommend a manufacturer's product that 
a reasonably competent person can install?  Right now we have wrapped the 
insulation in UV resistant tape, but it doesn't look all that great.  Thank 
you, Chris

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Outdoor rated insulation covering for Solar Water Heating Systems

[August Goers]

Chris - I agree with Carl that aluminum "cut and roll" jacketing is the
only way to go for longevity. It is a pain to install but once it's done it
will last the duration of the system. There is a video on this website
showing the idea:

http://www.buyinsulationproductstore.com/aluminum-jacket-for-pipe-insulation/

-August



On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Carl Hansen  wrote:

> Chris, for several years I've been using embossed, rolled aluminum, it
> comes in 4 foot lengths and split 90's and T's are available for it.  We
> get it from the local insulation outfit called Selle Supply, its paintable
> and totally resistant to UV's and birds.  Its custom made for the pipe size
> and insulation thickness and its assembled with short tap screws.
>
> Carl Hansen
>
> Hansen Elect.
>
> 505 470-0770
>
>
> On 11/3/2017 9:06 AM, cwarfel wrote:
>
>> I would like to add a covering to the Armorflex insulation we installed
>> on a solar water heating system. Can anyone recommend a manufacturer's
>> product that a reasonably competent person can install?  Right now we have
>> wrapped the insulation in UV resistant tape, but it doesn't look all that
>> great.  Thank you, Chris
>>
>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Outdoor rated insulation covering for Solar Water Heating Systems

[Carl Hansen]

Chris, for several years I've been using embossed, rolled aluminum, it 
comes in 4 foot lengths and split 90's and T's are available for it.  We 
get it from the local insulation outfit called Selle Supply, its 
paintable and totally resistant to UV's and birds.  Its custom made for 
the pipe size and insulation thickness and its assembled with short tap 
screws.


Carl Hansen

Hansen Elect.

505 470-0770


On 11/3/2017 9:06 AM, cwarfel wrote:
I would like to add a covering to the Armorflex insulation we 
installed on a solar water heating system. Can anyone recommend a 
manufacturer's product that a reasonably competent person can 
install?  Right now we have wrapped the insulation in UV resistant 
tape, but it doesn't look all that great.  Thank you, Chris





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Re: [RE-wrenches] Outdoor rated insulation covering for Solar Water Heating Systems

[Solar Energy Solutions]

We use a 2 inch 3M scotch tape all weather corrosion protected tape. For long 
exterior plumbing run we will insert a piece of pipe into the insulation and 
then pre-wrap our 6 foot sections of insulation With an overlapping spiral. 



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> On Nov 3, 2017, at 8:06 AM, cwarfel  wrote:
> 
> I would like to add a covering to the Armorflex insulation we installed on a 
> solar water heating system. Can anyone recommend a manufacturer's product 
> that a reasonably competent person can install?  Right now we have wrapped 
> the insulation in UV resistant tape, but it doesn't look all that great.  
> Thank you, Chris
> 
> -- 
> Christopher Warfel, PE
> Entech Engineering, Inc.
> 401-466-8978
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[RE-wrenches] Outdoor rated insulation covering for Solar Water Heating Systems

[cwarfel]

I would like to add a covering to the Armorflex insulation we installed 
on a solar water heating system. Can anyone recommend a manufacturer's 
product that a reasonably competent person can install?  Right now we 
have wrapped the insulation in UV resistant tape, but it doesn't look 
all that great.  Thank you, Chris


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid in Florida

[Jason Szumlanski]

That's what the utility or AHJ might say, but it is not the case. The
utility has no say in the matter. The AHJ could raise some flags on new
construction, but all you need to do is have a PE do a load analysis and
supply enough juice to meet the minimum standards per NFPA 70. It may take
some convincing, but the AHJ will eventually come around.

If you don't get satisfaction, use the Building Officials Association of
Florida and get a non-binding or a binding ruling on the matter.

There are lots of new and old off-grid homes around here where the utility
does not have access. The AHJs have no issue with these. The presence of a
nearby utility pole has no bearing on whether it's allowed or not.

There was recently a local story that was sensationalized about a woman
that wanted to be off-grid. The media reported it as if the big bad
utilities and the evil government would not let her live her life. Her
problem was that she didn't make her house livable with a suitable
alternative source of power and water. That's what is illegal in Florida.


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On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 5:35 AM, RE Ellison  wrote:

> Is there any truth to the info that you can not do an off grid system in
> Florida ?
>
> I have a friend assembling parts and he was told you can’t do off grid in
> the state
>
> Any info out there?
> Thanks,
> Bob Ellison
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