Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Boards

[Ray]

I usually replace the control board and AC board at the same time, and 
the fan as well.  I've never had to replace a FET board, but I've had to 
return for the fan, or AC board when I only did the control board.  
Control board seems the most sensitive to surges, while the AC board 
relays can burn, and of course fans only have so many spins in them.


Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760

On 2/6/19 9:39 PM, John Blittersdorf wrote:
I have often replaced single boards. Usually the control board but 
sometimes the AC board or both.  If I remember right, the AC board is 
common on all, the control board is different by DC voltage and 
whether grid tie or off grid and the FET board is DC voltage specific. 
Not including European and mobile units.  This is why I have stayed 
with Outback.  Field repairable.  About an hour to take it off the 
wall, open it up, switch boards, close it up and reattach to the 
FlexWare or e-panel.  I’ve done dozens over the years.


John Blittersdorf



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On Feb 6, 2019, at 10:55 AM, Lones Tuss > wrote:



Hello Drake

Yes replacing a single board in an FX is possible. In the case of a 
lightning strike it may be advisable to replace all three boards as 
damage may not be visible.


Take Care Sir

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Hello Wrenches,

It is my understanding that old Outback VFX inverters can not have 
only one board replaced, but need to have three changed.


We have an inverter that is from around 2005 (serial number**VFX 
008968).Can one board be replaced on this unit?


Thanks,

Drake

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Boards

[John Blittersdorf]

I have often replaced single boards. Usually the control board but sometimes 
the AC board or both.  If I remember right, the AC board is common on all, the 
control board is different by DC voltage and whether grid tie or off grid and 
the FET board is DC voltage specific. Not including European and mobile units.  
This is why I have stayed with Outback.  Field repairable.  About an hour to 
take it off the wall, open it up, switch boards, close it up and reattach to 
the FlexWare or e-panel.  I’ve done dozens over the years. 

John Blittersdorf



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> On Feb 6, 2019, at 10:55 AM, Lones Tuss  wrote:
> 
> Hello Drake
> Yes replacing a single board in an FX is possible. In the case of a lightning 
> strike it may be advisable to replace all three boards as damage may not be 
> visible.
> Take Care Sir
>  
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> drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org
> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 2:52 PM
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> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Outback Boards
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> Hello Wrenches,
>  
> It is my understanding that old Outback VFX inverters can not have only one 
> board replaced, but need to have three changed.
>  
> We have an inverter that is from around 2005 (serial number VFX 008968). Can 
> one board be replaced on this unit?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Drake
>  
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[RE-wrenches] XW mystery battery settings

[William Miller]

Wrenches:



One of the “features” of the XW inverter is the method with which battery
programming is accomplished.  Unless one sets up a custom battery setting
scheme, you are stuck with the generic options:  Flooded, AGM, etc.  I need
to have a better understanding of the voltage levels at which my batteries
are charging. I perused the manual and cannot find what voltages apply to
any of the generic battery types.  Do any of you know what these voltage
levels are?



Thanks in advance,



William Miller
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Re: [RE-wrenches] No Communication to XW CC

[William Miller]

Sandra:



The system is a GTBB installation.  The AGS is the only component I am
aware of that is losing communications.



I don’t know why it is losing communications.  I don’t know if it is a
Xanbus problem (or even what a Xanbus is), if it is an AGS problem or
whatever.  I was hoping you could provide some insight on why it might be
losing communications.  This might include any known problems,
troubleshooting tips and maybe a comment on the assertion from Schneider
tech support as to why we needed CAT5 cables in excess of 6 feet.  Please
feel free to communicate freely on the subject.



Thanks.



William







*From:* Sandra Herrera [mailto:sandra.herr...@schneider-electric.com]
*Sent:* Monday, February 4, 2019 6:42 AM
*To:* will...@millersolar.com
*Subject:* RE: [RE-wrenches] No Communication to XW CC



William,



What is the application (Off-grid, Grid-Tie)?



Other than AGS loosing communications, is there any other device with
communication problems?

If this is only on the AGS, how do you know that it is related to
communication on Xanbus?



Sandra Herrera
Sales Application Engineer
Solar Business
Schneider Electric

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*Sent:* Friday, February 1, 2019 2:52 PM
*To:* Sandra Herrera 
*Subject:* RE: [RE-wrenches] No Communication to XW CC



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Sandra:



Thank you for the speedy reply.  Here are the components for just one
problematic system:



3 XW 6048 inverter, model number 865-1000.  Master serial number is
11DFBFOB.

2 XW-MPPT60-150 charge controllers

1 SCP

1 AGS

2 terminators on the ends of data bus.



The equipment is circa 2009.  The case number is Case 19410834 and I spoke
with Chantille on 6/4/15.  We replaced all of the network cables and we
still have problems.  I suspect some of the new cables may be green in
color and I now understand that brand O cables may not meet data industry
specs.  Before I replace them again, I want to know if I need 6’ cables or
any other advice you may offer.



Again the AGS is frequently losing communications with the system.  What
else should I check?  Don’t know the firmware version.  I have a dongle.



William



*From:* Sandra Herrera [mailto:sandra.herr...@schneider-electric.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 1, 2019 2:32 PM
*To:* will...@millersolar.com; RE-wrenches
*Subject:* RE: [RE-wrenches] No Communication to XW CC



William,



I will need system specific information to make any comments on your
reported communications issues.



As far as the recommendations for 6 foot CAT5, that was done 5 to 7 years
ago for a specific application, and it is still valid when working with
large systems, where you are pushing the Xanbus network maximum.



Sandra

sandra.herr...@schneider-electric.com



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Sandra:



I have frequent communications problems with XW xanbus devices.  At one
point I was told by Schneider tech support that all Cat5 leads need to be a
minimum of 6 feet in length.  Is this true?



William





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Hello Drake.

In the Xanbus network, you have devices with power such as inverters, and
other devices without power.

You can not connect an SCP directly to an MPPT60, because both SCP and
MPPT60 have no power, but if you have an inverter in the network, it should
give sufficient power for the devices.

There are several reasons why a device that is still fully functional but
not show up on the network. This ranges from the minor CAT5 cable problem
to maybe a damage communication card. Some may be solve

Re: [RE-wrenches] Need UL Listed direct DC pump

[Bradley Bassett]

Try Franklin solar pumps
http://solar.franklin-electric.com/products/subdrive/subdrive-solarpak/

Brad

On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 1:26 PM William Miller 
wrote:

> Friends:
>
>
>
> I have been asked to consult on an agricultural water pumping project.
> The project is funded in part by NRCS.  There apparently is a requirement
> to provide a lift pump that is UL listed.  The lift is about 220 feet and
> they need to pump 22 GPM.  The pump can be submersible or surface.
>
>
>
> Sunpump is not UL listed, nor is Grundfos.  Neither Dankoff nor Sunrotor
> can meet the GPM at the lift height.
>
>
>
> Does anyone know of a pump brand that might do what I need?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> William Miller
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Need UL Listed direct DC pump

[jay]

HI William,

You might look at 
http://www.franklinwater.com/products/packaged-systems/solar-products/subdrive-solarpak-075-3hp/
 


UL listed. 

Jay

peltz power

> On Feb 6, 2019, at 11:18 AM, William Miller  wrote:
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> Friends:
>  
> I have been asked to consult on an agricultural water pumping project.  The 
> project is funded in part by NRCS.  There apparently is a requirement to 
> provide a lift pump that is UL listed.  The lift is about 220 feet and they 
> need to pump 22 GPM.  The pump can be submersible or surface.
>  
> Sunpump is not UL listed, nor is Grundfos.  Neither Dankoff nor Sunrotor can 
> meet the GPM at the lift height.
>  
> Does anyone know of a pump brand that might do what I need?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> William Miller
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[RE-wrenches] Need UL Listed direct DC pump

[William Miller]

Friends:



I have been asked to consult on an agricultural water pumping project.  The
project is funded in part by NRCS.  There apparently is a requirement to
provide a lift pump that is UL listed.  The lift is about 220 feet and they
need to pump 22 GPM.  The pump can be submersible or surface.



Sunpump is not UL listed, nor is Grundfos.  Neither Dankoff nor Sunrotor
can meet the GPM at the lift height.



Does anyone know of a pump brand that might do what I need?



Thanks,



William Miller
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Boards

[Lones Tuss]

Hello Drake
Yes replacing a single board in an FX is possible. In the case of a lightning 
strike it may be advisable to replace all three boards as damage may not be 
visible.
Take Care Sir

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Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 2:52 PM
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Subject: [RE-wrenches] Outback Boards

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Hello Wrenches,

It is my understanding that old Outback VFX inverters can not have only one 
board replaced, but need to have three changed.

We have an inverter that is from around 2005 (serial number VFX 008968). Can 
one board be replaced on this unit?

Thanks,

Drake

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