[RE-wrenches] Clearing out equipment

[Christopher Warfel via RE-wrenches]

I've begun the process of clearing out my solar inventory as I reach the 
age equivalent of a junk yard.  Reclaimed modules with plenty of life 
have found homes.  I have quite a few older PV Power (5), Fronius (2) 
old non arc fault "new inverters", and all the usual suspects of 
miscellaneous equipment. Has anyone ideas on how to distribute them to 
interested people?   I don't want any money for them, but pay for 
shipping or ferry freight.  I was thinking a community solar project, 
but we need new local utility management and board people to achieve 
that. Thanks for any advice.  Chris






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[RE-wrenches] Inverter bypass

[Kristopher Schmid via RE-wrenches]

Hi All,

I have a stand alone system that was upgraded from an FX inverter to a
Radian WITHOUT  the companion load center.  I would like to add an inverter
bypass circuit to operate the house on generator power.  There used to be a
4 slot breaker panel (SqD?) with the rocker switch preventing both breakers
from being in the on position simultaneously.  I have not been able to find
it on the interweb.  Anyone know of something out there that would meet my
needs?

Kris


Shine On!

Kris Schmid
Legacy Solar, LLC
137 West 1st Avenue
Luck, WI 54853
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715-653-4295
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter bypass

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Hi All,

I have a stand alone system that was upgraded from an FX inverter to a Radian 
WITHOUT  the companion load center.  I would like to add an inverter bypass 
circuit to operate the house on generator power.  There used to be a 4 slot 
breaker panel (SqD?) with the rocker switch preventing both breakers from being 
in the on position simultaneously.  I have not been able to find it on the 
interweb.  Anyone know of something out there that would meet my needs?

Kris


Shine On!

Kris Schmid
Legacy Solar, LLC
137 West 1st Avenue
Luck, WI 54853
www.legacysolar.com
715-653-4295
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Licensed Wisconsin Master Electrician
BSEE
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Clearing out equipment

[rick--- via RE-wrenches]

Hi Chris,What Fronius inverters do you have?rick brownSolShine Energy Alternatives, LLCElectrical & Solar Contracting Serviceswww.SolShineEnergy.comO: 540.235.3095M: 540.808.9502VA Class A Contractor Lic# 2705147660VA Master Electrician Lic# 2710062762VA Alternative Energy Systems Installer  NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional 110112-21On Mar 2, 2023, at 12:37 PM, Christopher Warfel via RE-wrenches  wrote:
  

  
  
I've begun the process of clearing out my solar inventory as I
  reach the age equivalent of a junk yard.  Reclaimed modules with
  plenty of life have found homes.  I have quite a few older PV
  Power (5), Fronius (2) old non arc fault "new inverters", and all
  the usual suspects of miscellaneous equipment. Has anyone ideas on
  how to distribute them to interested people?   I don't want any
  money for them, but pay for shipping or ferry freight.  I was
  thinking a community solar project, but we need new local utility
  management and board people to achieve that. Thanks for any
  advice.  Chris








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Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter bypass

[Sindelar Solar via RE-wrenches]

Kris, It was SqD QO403, and it was a 3-pole load center/disconnect, not 
4-pole. You may recall that the dual-inverter Trace Power Panels of long 
ago used two of these, each one serving as an inverter bypass switch to 
one 120V AC leg.


On 3/2/2023 11:46 AM, Kristopher Schmid via RE-wrenches wrote:

Hi All,

I have a stand alone system that was upgraded from an FX inverter to a 
Radian WITHOUT  the companion load center.  I would like to add an 
inverter bypass circuit to operate the house on generator power.  
There used to be a 4 slot breaker panel (SqD?) with the rocker switch 
preventing both breakers from being in the on position 
simultaneously.  I have not been able to find it on the interweb.  
Anyone know of something out there that would meet my needs?


Kris


Shine On!

Kris Schmid
Legacy Solar, LLC
137 West 1st Avenue
Luck, WI 54853
www.legacysolar.com 
715-653-4295
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
Licensed Wisconsin Master Electrician
BSEE



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Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter bypass

[Ray Walters via RE-wrenches]

I probably still have one of the old QO boxes on the shelf, but I never 
liked them.  Single pole, very tight, and you had to double lug or use a 
weird split bolt arrangement with exposed copper out past the breaker.


I started using these 60A T switches from Northern:

https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200653609_200653609

Midnite makes small 30A and 60A T switches as well:

https://www.midnitesolar.com/productPhoto.php?product_ID=416&productCat_ID=29&sortOrder=3&act=p

Ray Walters

On 3/2/2023 11:57 AM, Sindelar Solar via RE-wrenches wrote:
Kris, It was SqD QO403, and it was a 3-pole load center/disconnect, 
not 4-pole. You may recall that the dual-inverter Trace Power Panels 
of long ago used two of these, each one serving as an inverter bypass 
switch to one 120V AC leg.


On 3/2/2023 11:46 AM, Kristopher Schmid via RE-wrenches wrote:

Hi All,

I have a stand alone system that was upgraded from an FX inverter to 
a Radian WITHOUT  the companion load center.  I would like to add an 
inverter bypass circuit to operate the house on generator power.  
There used to be a 4 slot breaker panel (SqD?) with the rocker switch 
preventing both breakers from being in the on position 
simultaneously.  I have not been able to find it on the interweb.  
Anyone know of something out there that would meet my needs?


Kris


Shine On!

Kris Schmid
Legacy Solar, LLC
137 West 1st Avenue
Luck, WI 54853
www.legacysolar.com 
715-653-4295
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
Licensed Wisconsin Master Electrician
BSEE



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(Retired) Founder, Positive Energy, Inc.
(Retired) Founder, Sindelar Solar
*505 780-2738 cell*


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter bypass

[Howie Michaelson via RE-wrenches]

Does anyone know of any bypass switch/breaker setup for anything greater
than 60 amps for 2 poles, other than large DPDT switches which get pricey
and hard to source especially for 200 amps?
Howie

On Thu, Mar 2, 2023, 6:23 PM Ray Walters via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> I probably still have one of the old QO boxes on the shelf, but I never
> liked them.  Single pole, very tight, and you had to double lug or use a
> weird split bolt arrangement with exposed copper out past the breaker.
>
> I started using these 60A T switches from Northern:
>
> https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200653609_200653609
>
> Midnite makes small 30A and 60A T switches as well:
>
>
> https://www.midnitesolar.com/productPhoto.php?product_ID=416&productCat_ID=29&sortOrder=3&act=p
>
> Ray Walters
> On 3/2/2023 11:57 AM, Sindelar Solar via RE-wrenches wrote:
>
> Kris, It was SqD QO403, and it was a 3-pole load center/disconnect, not
> 4-pole. You may recall that the dual-inverter Trace Power Panels of long
> ago used two of these, each one serving as an inverter bypass switch to one
> 120V AC leg.
>
> On 3/2/2023 11:46 AM, Kristopher Schmid via RE-wrenches wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have a stand alone system that was upgraded from an FX inverter to a
> Radian WITHOUT  the companion load center.  I would like to add an inverter
> bypass circuit to operate the house on generator power.  There used to be a
> 4 slot breaker panel (SqD?) with the rocker switch preventing both breakers
> from being in the on position simultaneously.  I have not been able to find
> it on the interweb.  Anyone know of something out there that would meet my
> needs?
>
> Kris
>
>
> Shine On!
>
> Kris Schmid
> Legacy Solar, LLC
> 137 West 1st Avenue
> Luck, WI 54853
> www.legacysolar.com
> 715-653-4295
> NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
> Licensed Wisconsin Master Electrician
> BSEE
>
>
> --
>
> *Allan Sindelar*
> al...@sindelarsolar.com
> (No longer) NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
> (Still) New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician
> (Retired) Founder, Positive Energy, Inc.
> (Retired) Founder, Sindelar Solar
> *505 780-2738 cell*
>
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter bypass

[John Blittersdorf via RE-wrenches]

Howie,
   I use the QO612 small breaker box with two double pole breakers and the
QO2DTI toggle.

John Blittersdorf

On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 8:11 PM Howie Michaelson via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> Does anyone know of any bypass switch/breaker setup for anything greater
> than 60 amps for 2 poles, other than large DPDT switches which get pricey
> and hard to source especially for 200 amps?
> Howie
>
> On Thu, Mar 2, 2023, 6:23 PM Ray Walters via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>
>> I probably still have one of the old QO boxes on the shelf, but I never
>> liked them.  Single pole, very tight, and you had to double lug or use a
>> weird split bolt arrangement with exposed copper out past the breaker.
>>
>> I started using these 60A T switches from Northern:
>>
>> https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200653609_200653609
>>
>> Midnite makes small 30A and 60A T switches as well:
>>
>>
>> https://www.midnitesolar.com/productPhoto.php?product_ID=416&productCat_ID=29&sortOrder=3&act=p
>>
>> Ray Walters
>> On 3/2/2023 11:57 AM, Sindelar Solar via RE-wrenches wrote:
>>
>> Kris, It was SqD QO403, and it was a 3-pole load center/disconnect, not
>> 4-pole. You may recall that the dual-inverter Trace Power Panels of long
>> ago used two of these, each one serving as an inverter bypass switch to one
>> 120V AC leg.
>>
>> On 3/2/2023 11:46 AM, Kristopher Schmid via RE-wrenches wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have a stand alone system that was upgraded from an FX inverter to a
>> Radian WITHOUT  the companion load center.  I would like to add an inverter
>> bypass circuit to operate the house on generator power.  There used to be a
>> 4 slot breaker panel (SqD?) with the rocker switch preventing both breakers
>> from being in the on position simultaneously.  I have not been able to find
>> it on the interweb.  Anyone know of something out there that would meet my
>> needs?
>>
>> Kris
>>
>>
>> Shine On!
>>
>> Kris Schmid
>> Legacy Solar, LLC
>> 137 West 1st Avenue
>> 
>> Luck, WI 54853
>> 
>> www.legacysolar.com
>> 715-653-4295
>> NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
>> Licensed Wisconsin Master Electrician
>> BSEE
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *Allan Sindelar*
>> al...@sindelarsolar.com
>> (No longer) NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
>> (Still) New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician
>> (Retired) Founder, Positive Energy, Inc.
>> (Retired) Founder, Sindelar Solar
>> *505 780-2738 cell*
>>
>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter bypass

[Kristopher Schmid via RE-wrenches]

Thanks for the help and suggestions!

Shine On!

Kris Schmid
Legacy Solar, LLC
137 West 1st Avenue
Luck, WI 54853
www.legacysolar.com
715-653-4295
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
Licensed Wisconsin Master Electrician
BSEE

On Thu, Mar 2, 2023, 7:40 PM John Blittersdorf via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

>
> Howie,
>I use the QO612 small breaker box with two double pole breakers and the
> QO2DTI toggle.
>
> John Blittersdorf
>
> On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 8:11 PM Howie Michaelson via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know of any bypass switch/breaker setup for anything greater
>> than 60 amps for 2 poles, other than large DPDT switches which get pricey
>> and hard to source especially for 200 amps?
>> Howie
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 2, 2023, 6:23 PM Ray Walters via RE-wrenches <
>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I probably still have one of the old QO boxes on the shelf, but I never
>>> liked them.  Single pole, very tight, and you had to double lug or use a
>>> weird split bolt arrangement with exposed copper out past the breaker.
>>>
>>> I started using these 60A T switches from Northern:
>>>
>>> https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200653609_200653609
>>>
>>> Midnite makes small 30A and 60A T switches as well:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.midnitesolar.com/productPhoto.php?product_ID=416&productCat_ID=29&sortOrder=3&act=p
>>>
>>> Ray Walters
>>> On 3/2/2023 11:57 AM, Sindelar Solar via RE-wrenches wrote:
>>>
>>> Kris, It was SqD QO403, and it was a 3-pole load center/disconnect, not
>>> 4-pole. You may recall that the dual-inverter Trace Power Panels of long
>>> ago used two of these, each one serving as an inverter bypass switch to one
>>> 120V AC leg.
>>>
>>> On 3/2/2023 11:46 AM, Kristopher Schmid via RE-wrenches wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I have a stand alone system that was upgraded from an FX inverter to a
>>> Radian WITHOUT  the companion load center.  I would like to add an inverter
>>> bypass circuit to operate the house on generator power.  There used to be a
>>> 4 slot breaker panel (SqD?) with the rocker switch preventing both breakers
>>> from being in the on position simultaneously.  I have not been able to find
>>> it on the interweb.  Anyone know of something out there that would meet my
>>> needs?
>>>
>>> Kris
>>>
>>>
>>> Shine On!
>>>
>>> Kris Schmid
>>> Legacy Solar, LLC
>>> 137 West 1st Avenue
>>> 
>>> Luck, WI 54853
>>> 
>>> www.legacysolar.com
>>> 715-653-4295
>>> NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
>>> Licensed Wisconsin Master Electrician
>>> BSEE
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter bypass

[Ray Walters via RE-wrenches]

Here's a 100 amp version of the Reliance box.  Cheap, lots of room, easy 
to wire up, but NEMA 1.


https://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/Reliance-Controls-TCA1006D/p1102.html

On 3/2/2023 6:10 PM, Howie Michaelson via RE-wrenches wrote:
Does anyone know of any bypass switch/breaker setup for anything 
greater than 60 amps for 2 poles, other than large DPDT switches which 
get pricey and hard to source especially for 200 amps?

Howie

On Thu, Mar 2, 2023, 6:23 PM Ray Walters via RE-wrenches 
 wrote:


I probably still have one of the old QO boxes on the shelf, but I
never liked them.  Single pole, very tight, and you had to double
lug or use a weird split bolt arrangement with exposed copper out
past the breaker.

I started using these 60A T switches from Northern:

https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200653609_200653609

Midnite makes small 30A and 60A T switches as well:


https://www.midnitesolar.com/productPhoto.php?product_ID=416&productCat_ID=29&sortOrder=3&act=p



Ray Walters

On 3/2/2023 11:57 AM, Sindelar Solar via RE-wrenches wrote:

Kris, It was SqD QO403, and it was a 3-pole load
center/disconnect, not 4-pole. You may recall that the
dual-inverter Trace Power Panels of long ago used two of these,
each one serving as an inverter bypass switch to one 120V AC leg.

On 3/2/2023 11:46 AM, Kristopher Schmid via RE-wrenches wrote:

Hi All,

I have a stand alone system that was upgraded from an FX
inverter to a Radian WITHOUT  the companion load center.  I
would like to add an inverter bypass circuit to operate the
house on generator power.  There used to be a 4 slot breaker
panel (SqD?) with the rocker switch preventing both breakers
from being in the on position simultaneously.  I have not been
able to find it on the interweb.  Anyone know of something out
there that would meet my needs?

Kris


Shine On!

Kris Schmid
Legacy Solar, LLC
137 West 1st Avenue
Luck, WI 54853
www.legacysolar.com 
715-653-4295
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
Licensed Wisconsin Master Electrician
BSEE



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al...@sindelarsolar.com 

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(Still) New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician
(Retired) Founder, Positive Energy, Inc.
(Retired) Founder, Sindelar Solar
*505 780-2738 cell*


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[RE-wrenches] 60v Inverter?

[Ray Walters via RE-wrenches]

Hi all;

I'm putting together a small backup system that will use an electric 
motorcycle battery (60 V, 35 AH, Li+) Normal charge voltage is at 67.2v, 
so that excludes most inverters I know of. I've found a few from China 
that claim 60v and 72v nominal input, but output is listed at 230vac, 
and the frequency is not listed at all.  They show universal Euro output 
receptacles.and only available straight from China.


Ideally I'd like a unit in the 1500 to 3000 watt range that I could 
program the input voltage range, but also the output frequency.  For 
other strange musical reasons, I want an inverter (or VFD) that I can 
fine tune the frequency output at 120 vac. I'd like something I could 
vary the output from 55 to 65 Hz in roughly 0.1 Hz increments. This 
could be the same inverter, or a different one.  I want to slow the 
frequency of a 1/4 Hp synchronous motor that is in an Hammond organ, so 
that I can tune the organ down from A=440 Hz to A =432 Hz to match an 
even older piano.Yep, I'm living on the edge..


Ray Walters
(Now Even More) Remote Solar


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter bypass

[Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches]

Wrenches
It might be easier to use the wire cabinet for the radian, but hey thats
just me

On Thu, Mar 2, 2023, 9:47 AM Kristopher Schmid via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I have a stand alone system that was upgraded from an FX inverter to a
> Radian WITHOUT  the companion load center.  I would like to add an inverter
> bypass circuit to operate the house on generator power.  There used to be a
> 4 slot breaker panel (SqD?) with the rocker switch preventing both breakers
> from being in the on position simultaneously.  I have not been able to find
> it on the interweb.  Anyone know of something out there that would meet my
> needs?
>
> Kris
>
>
> Shine On!
>
> Kris Schmid
> Legacy Solar, LLC
> 137 West 1st Avenue
> Luck, WI 54853
> www.legacysolar.com
> 715-653-4295
> NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
> Licensed Wisconsin Master Electrician
> BSEE
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