Re: [RE-wrenches] Truss finder

[Ray Walters via RE-wrenches]

If the temperature is right, my IR camera can see the rafters. Best to 
check early on a cold morning with the heat on in the building.  
Otherwise I'm of the William "Hammer" system persuasion.  Never found 
anything better.


On 4/17/2023 1:31 PM, Garrison via RE-wrenches wrote:

Hi Kris,

I started using the Bosch D-tect 150 a few years ago after a friend 
who had success with it recommended it.  Works great on most roofs.  
It needs a smooth surface to roll on so I use a piece of Soladeck 
box.  Older roofs with ply over roof boards don't scan very well so I 
sometimes go back to the mallet method.


I also highly recommend the Chip Tool!  Every installer should have 
one.  It's best use in my opinion is for installing fall protection.  
I don't recommend it be used with a "micro flashing" though, as the 
pilot hole next to the rafter may only be barely covered by the 
"flashing".


Best,

Garrison Riegel
Licensed Electrician
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional™

(c) 773-515-5168  (e) garri...@celestarsolar.com


On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 10:13 AM Kristopher Schmid via RE-wrenches 
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I am considering buying a deep scanner for locating trusses.  Any
recommendations or testimonials?

Shine On!

Kris Schmid
Legacy Solar, LLC
137 West 1st Avenue
Luck, WI 54853
www.legacysolar.com 
715-653-4295
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
Licensed Wisconsin Master Electrician
BSEE
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Truss finder

[Christopher Warfel via RE-wrenches]

There are very good roof mounting systems that do not require finding 
the rafter. There was a thread on this within the past two weeks.  I 
understand the comfort of lagging into a rafter, but unless you can see 
the rafters from below, you'll never know 100% you did not come out the 
side of the rafter, especially if the rafter is checked. We use the 
hammer, two pilot holes to establish the rafter edge if we are attaching 
to the rafter. That is a cool tool though that I never saw before.  Chris


On 4/17/2023 3:31 PM, Garrison via RE-wrenches wrote:

Hi Kris,

I started using the Bosch D-tect 150 a few years ago after a friend 
who had success with it recommended it.  Works great on most roofs.  
It needs a smooth surface to roll on so I use a piece of Soladeck 
box.  Older roofs with ply over roof boards don't scan very well so I 
sometimes go back to the mallet method.


I also highly recommend the Chip Tool!  Every installer should have 
one.  It's best use in my opinion is for installing fall protection.  
I don't recommend it be used with a "micro flashing" though, as the 
pilot hole next to the rafter may only be barely covered by the 
"flashing".


Best,

Garrison Riegel
Licensed Electrician
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional™

(c) 773-515-5168  (e) garri...@celestarsolar.com


On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 10:13 AM Kristopher Schmid via RE-wrenches 
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I am considering buying a deep scanner for locating trusses.  Any
recommendations or testimonials?

Shine On!

Kris Schmid
Legacy Solar, LLC
137 West 1st Avenue
Luck, WI 54853
www.legacysolar.com 
715-653-4295
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
Licensed Wisconsin Master Electrician
BSEE
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Truss finder

[Garrison via RE-wrenches]

Hi Kris,

I started using the Bosch D-tect 150 a few years ago after a friend who had
success with it recommended it.  Works great on most roofs.  It needs a
smooth surface to roll on so I use a piece of Soladeck box.  Older roofs
with ply over roof boards don't scan very well so I sometimes go back to
the mallet method.

I also highly recommend the Chip Tool!  Every installer should have one.
It's best use in my opinion is for installing fall protection.  I don't
recommend it be used with a "micro flashing" though, as the pilot hole next
to the rafter may only be barely covered by the "flashing".

Best,

Garrison Riegel
Licensed Electrician
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional™

(c) 773-515-5168  (e) garri...@celestarsolar.com


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> I am considering buying a deep scanner for locating trusses.  Any
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> 137 West 1st Avenue
> Luck, WI 54853
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Truss finder

[Dana Orzel via RE-wrenches]

OK, so we need to look outside the box on this rafter finder!what other industries have need of tools that look at wood or metal on the other side of various materials?Watched a movie the other night and this guy was finding rebar in concrete 2 to 3 inches thick or was that just Hollywood?Dana OrzelC: 208.721.7003E- d...@solarwork.comOn Apr 17, 2023, at 10:40 AM, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches  wrote:
Another reason why I never put solar panels on a dwelling roof.  However, it seems crazy to be drilling holes to find the rafter still in 2023. $.02
 
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On 2023-04-17 7:04 am, Daniel Young via RE-wrenches wrote:





Can echo this, I did a fresh look into this last year and still have not found anything better than a hammer and feeler tool.
 
We are considering going to a deck direct attachment like rooftech as well, which makes rafter locations less critical. We intend to still have crews find the rafter and place the attachments on the rafter as best they can without drilling holes. As the attachments still prefer to be located on a rafter to maximize snow load bearing capacity. Nice thing about the Rooftech is that if you miss the rafter location with the center holes, it's entirely likely you will hit it with the side screws. In either case you are still sitting above the rafter and can expect to bear significant weight there instead of relying on the OSB/Plywood decking.
 
--
 
Danny Young
NABCEP PV Installation Professional #031508-90
Engineering Team LeadSolar Energy Solutions
Lexington | Louisville | Bloomington | Cincinnati | Evansville | Indianapolis
513-448-5176 (mobile)
877-312-7456 (Main Office)
da...@sesre.com
 

From: RE-wrenches  On Behalf Of Kristopher Schmid via RE-wrenchesSent: Sunday, April 16, 2023 2:47 PMTo: RE-wrenches Cc: Kristopher Schmid Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Truss finder

 

Thanks William!  Laughed out loud at the first picture!

Shine On!Kris SchmidLegacy Solar, LLC137 West 1st AvenueLuck, WI 54853www.legacysolar.com715-653-4295NABCEP Certified PV Installation ProfessionalLicensed Wisconsin Master ElectricianBSEE


 


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I am considering buying a deep scanner for locating trusses.  Any recommendations or testimonials?

Shine On!Kris SchmidLegacy Solar, LLC137 West 1st AvenueLuck, WI 54853www.legacysolar.com715-653-4295NABCEP Certified PV Installation ProfessionalLicensed Wisconsin Master ElectricianBSEE








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Re: [RE-wrenches] Truss finder

[Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches]

Another reason why I never put solar panels on a dwelling roof.  
However, it seems crazy to be drilling holes to find the rafter still in 
2023. $.02


Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
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text 209 813 0060

On 2023-04-17 7:04 am, Daniel Young via RE-wrenches wrote:

Can echo this, I did a fresh look into this last year and still have 
not found anything better than a hammer and feeler tool.


We are considering going to a deck direct attachment like rooftech as 
well, which makes rafter locations less critical. We intend to still 
have crews find the rafter and place the attachments on the rafter as 
best they can without drilling holes. As the attachments still prefer 
to be located on a rafter to maximize snow load bearing capacity. Nice 
thing about the Rooftech is that if you miss the rafter location with 
the center holes, it's entirely likely you will hit it with the side 
screws. In either case you are still sitting above the rafter and can 
expect to bear significant weight there instead of relying on the 
OSB/Plywood decking.


--

Danny Young

NABCEP PV Installation Professional #031508-90

Engineering Team Lead
Solar Energy Solutions

Lexington | Louisville | Bloomington | Cincinnati | Evansville | 
Indianapolis


513-448-5176 (mobile)

877-312-7456 (Main Office)

da...@sesre.com

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Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2023 2:47 PM
To: RE-wrenches 
Cc: Kristopher Schmid 
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Truss finder

Thanks William!  Laughed out loud at the first picture!

Shine On!

Kris Schmid
Legacy Solar, LLC
137 West 1st Avenue
Luck, WI 54853
www.legacysolar.com [1]
715-653-4295
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
Licensed Wisconsin Master Electrician
BSEE

On Sun, Apr 16, 2023, 10:12 AM Kristopher Schmid 
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I am considering buying a deep scanner for locating trusses.  Any 
recommendations or testimonials?


Shine On!

Kris Schmid
Legacy Solar, LLC
137 West 1st Avenue
Luck, WI 54853
www.legacysolar.com [1]
715-653-4295
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
Licensed Wisconsin Master Electrician
BSEE


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Truss finder

[Daniel Young via RE-wrenches]

Can echo this, I did a fresh look into this last year and still have not found 
anything better than a hammer and feeler tool.

We are considering going to a deck direct attachment like rooftech as well, 
which makes rafter locations less critical. We intend to still have crews find 
the rafter and place the attachments on the rafter as best they can without 
drilling holes. As the attachments still prefer to be located on a rafter to 
maximize snow load bearing capacity. Nice thing about the Rooftech is that if 
you miss the rafter location with the center holes, it’s entirely likely you 
will hit it with the side screws. In either case you are still sitting above 
the rafter and can expect to bear significant weight there instead of relying 
on the OSB/Plywood decking.

--

Danny Young
NABCEP PV Installation Professional #031508-90
Engineering Team Lead
Solar Energy Solutions
Lexington | Louisville | Bloomington | Cincinnati | Evansville | Indianapolis
513-448-5176 (mobile)
877-312-7456 (Main Office)
da...@sesre.com

From: RE-wrenches  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2023 2:47 PM
To: RE-wrenches 
Cc: Kristopher Schmid 
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Truss finder

Thanks William!  Laughed out loud at the first picture!
Shine On!

Kris Schmid
Legacy Solar, LLC
137 West 1st Avenue
Luck, WI 54853
www.legacysolar.com
715-653-4295
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
Licensed Wisconsin Master Electrician
BSEE

On Sun, Apr 16, 2023, 10:12 AM Kristopher Schmid 
mailto:sol...@legacysolar.com>> wrote:
I am considering buying a deep scanner for locating trusses.  Any 
recommendations or testimonials?
Shine On!

Kris Schmid
Legacy Solar, LLC
137 West 1st Avenue
Luck, WI 54853
www.legacysolar.com
715-653-4295
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
Licensed Wisconsin Master Electrician
BSEE
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