Re: [RE-wrenches] Automatic load control
We have two Sol-Ark / Fortress deployments just finished/in progress and one uses seven Lumin panels for load shedding and the other has SPANs. In retrospect the Lumin project should have used SPAN since it was a new construction project and the Lumin is more of a retrofit product in my opinion. We have been pairing Lumin panels with Tesla Powerwalls for at least five years as a way of using a single PW to provide whole home backup and it's a very solid product with excellent support. I think we're going to see more and more standard electrical panels being built as "smart" panels that will include load shedding capabilities as demand management becomes more and more of a smart financial decision with rising energy costs. But for now it's still niche products like these. - Sam ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Automatic load control
Aloha Howie, The Lumin Smart Panel has worked well for us. https://www.luminsmart.com/ Software is simple and tech support was on point. The app works well also. Bonus...you can remotely monitor power consumption on each controlled load. Two minor hang ups: 1. Having to run a separate "grid sense" circuit. This circuit has to be pulled from a location that is on the grid side of the Sol-Ark. This can be in a pain when the load you wanna dump is on sub panel clear across the property from the inverter. I am sure this the case with all these load shedding type devices. 2. You have to do a training to install them. It was a short webinar. Super easy. On Fri, Dec 15, 2023, 2:28 AM William Miller via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Howie: > > Segregated load distribution. Simple, automatic. > > I don’t get why they put 200 amp pass-through on an inverter that can only > produce 62.5 amps. > > > William Miller > Miller Solar.com > 805-438-5600 > www.millersolar.com > > > On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 6:37 PM Howie Michaelson via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I am trying to figure out best options to control loads in a Sol-Ark15k >> battery backup residential system. It's been quite a few years since I've >> set up an automatic load control, and never with a Sol-Ark. The Sol-Ark >> will output to the main breaker panel, so no separate "backed up" panel - >> all house loads will likely be on the Sol-Ark's load side. >> >> What do folks like to use in this type of circumstance to automatically >> shed loads when the grid is down, either sequentially as the battery bank >> drops down or more simply triggered by loss of grid? Are they pieces of >> equipment that work specifically with the Sol-Ark? >> I'd also be open to considering Fortress's Envy, if there is an option >> that would work well specifically with it. >> I'm interested in the range of options from simple to complicated, as >> long as it is automated. All automated ideas/options appreciated. >> Thanks! >> Howie Michaelson >> Sun Catcher >> ___ >> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >> >> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >> >> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >> Change listserver email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the >> other: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> Check out or update participant bios: >> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org >> >> ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Automatic load control
Howie: Segregated load distribution. Simple, automatic. I don’t get why they put 200 amp pass-through on an inverter that can only produce 62.5 amps. William Miller Miller Solar.com 805-438-5600 www.millersolar.com On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 6:37 PM Howie Michaelson via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Hi all, > > I am trying to figure out best options to control loads in a Sol-Ark15k > battery backup residential system. It's been quite a few years since I've > set up an automatic load control, and never with a Sol-Ark. The Sol-Ark > will output to the main breaker panel, so no separate "backed up" panel - > all house loads will likely be on the Sol-Ark's load side. > > What do folks like to use in this type of circumstance to automatically > shed loads when the grid is down, either sequentially as the battery bank > drops down or more simply triggered by loss of grid? Are they pieces of > equipment that work specifically with the Sol-Ark? > I'd also be open to considering Fortress's Envy, if there is an option > that would work well specifically with it. > I'm interested in the range of options from simple to complicated, as long > as it is automated. All automated ideas/options appreciated. > Thanks! > Howie Michaelson > Sun Catcher > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Automatic load control
SPAN Panel, or you can try Generac 7006 automatic load shed device (100A) https://apelectric.com/generac-7006-smart-management-module/ Or G7000 (50Amp) I’ve heard they work with other inverters, not just GENERAC only, but of course you’d have no warranty when mixing brands. David On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 6:36 PM Howie Michaelson via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Hi all, > > I am trying to figure out best options to control loads in a Sol-Ark15k > battery backup residential system. It's been quite a few years since I've > set up an automatic load control, and never with a Sol-Ark. The Sol-Ark > will output to the main breaker panel, so no separate "backed up" panel - > all house loads will likely be on the Sol-Ark's load side. > > What do folks like to use in this type of circumstance to automatically > shed loads when the grid is down, either sequentially as the battery bank > drops down or more simply triggered by loss of grid? Are they pieces of > equipment that work specifically with the Sol-Ark? > I'd also be open to considering Fortress's Envy, if there is an option > that would work well specifically with it. > I'm interested in the range of options from simple to complicated, as long > as it is automated. All automated ideas/options appreciated. > Thanks! > Howie Michaelson > Sun Catcher > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
