Re: [RE-wrenches] Automatic load control

2023-12-15 Thread Sam Haraldson via RE-wrenches
We have two Sol-Ark / Fortress deployments just finished/in progress and
one uses seven Lumin panels for load shedding and the other has SPANs.  In
retrospect the Lumin project should have used SPAN since it was a new
construction project and the Lumin is more of a retrofit product in my
opinion.  We have been pairing Lumin panels with Tesla Powerwalls for at
least five years as a way of using a single PW to provide whole home backup
and it's a very solid product with excellent support.  I think we're going
to see more and more standard electrical panels being built as "smart"
panels that will include load shedding capabilities as demand management
becomes more and more of a smart financial decision with rising energy
costs.  But for now it's still niche products like these.

- Sam
___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
http://www.members.re-wrenches.org



Re: [RE-wrenches] Automatic load control

2023-12-15 Thread Lou Russo via RE-wrenches
Aloha Howie,

The Lumin Smart Panel has worked well for us.

https://www.luminsmart.com/

Software is simple and tech support was on point. The app works well also.
Bonus...you can remotely monitor power consumption on each controlled load.

Two minor hang ups:

1. Having to run a separate "grid sense" circuit. This circuit has to be
pulled from a location that is  on the grid side of the Sol-Ark. This can
be in a pain when the load you wanna dump is on sub panel clear across the
property from the inverter. I am sure this the case with all these load
shedding type devices.

2. You have to do a training to install them. It was a short webinar. Super
easy.


On Fri, Dec 15, 2023, 2:28 AM William Miller via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> Howie:
>
> Segregated load distribution. Simple, automatic.
>
> I don’t get why they put 200 amp pass-through on an inverter that can only
> produce 62.5 amps.
>
>
> William Miller
> Miller Solar.com
> 805-438-5600
> www.millersolar.com
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 6:37 PM Howie Michaelson via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am trying to figure out best options to control loads in a  Sol-Ark15k
>> battery backup residential system.  It's been quite a few years since I've
>> set up an automatic load control, and never with a Sol-Ark. The Sol-Ark
>> will output to the main breaker panel, so no separate "backed up" panel -
>> all house loads will likely be on the Sol-Ark's load side.
>>
>> What do folks like to use in this type of circumstance to automatically
>> shed loads when the grid is down,  either sequentially as the battery bank
>> drops down or more simply triggered by loss of grid? Are they pieces of
>> equipment that work specifically with the Sol-Ark?
>> I'd also be open to considering Fortress's Envy, if there is an option
>> that would work well specifically with it.
>> I'm interested in the range of options from simple to complicated, as
>> long as it is automated.  All automated ideas/options appreciated.
>> Thanks!
>> Howie Michaelson
>> Sun Catcher
>> ___
>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance
>>
>> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org
>>
>> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
>>
>> Change listserver email address & settings:
>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>>
>> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the
>> other:
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>>
>> List rules & etiquette:
>> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm
>>
>> Check out or update participant bios:
>> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
>>
>> ___
> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance
>
> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org
>
> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
>
> Change listserver email address & settings:
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>
> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the
> other:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>
> List rules & etiquette:
> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm
>
> Check out or update participant bios:
> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
>
>
___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
http://www.members.re-wrenches.org



Re: [RE-wrenches] Automatic load control

2023-12-15 Thread William Miller via RE-wrenches
Howie:

Segregated load distribution. Simple, automatic.

I don’t get why they put 200 amp pass-through on an inverter that can only
produce 62.5 amps.


William Miller
Miller Solar.com
805-438-5600
www.millersolar.com


On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 6:37 PM Howie Michaelson via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am trying to figure out best options to control loads in a  Sol-Ark15k
> battery backup residential system.  It's been quite a few years since I've
> set up an automatic load control, and never with a Sol-Ark. The Sol-Ark
> will output to the main breaker panel, so no separate "backed up" panel -
> all house loads will likely be on the Sol-Ark's load side.
>
> What do folks like to use in this type of circumstance to automatically
> shed loads when the grid is down,  either sequentially as the battery bank
> drops down or more simply triggered by loss of grid? Are they pieces of
> equipment that work specifically with the Sol-Ark?
> I'd also be open to considering Fortress's Envy, if there is an option
> that would work well specifically with it.
> I'm interested in the range of options from simple to complicated, as long
> as it is automated.  All automated ideas/options appreciated.
> Thanks!
> Howie Michaelson
> Sun Catcher
> ___
> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance
>
> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org
>
> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
>
> Change listserver email address & settings:
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>
> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the
> other:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>
> List rules & etiquette:
> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm
>
> Check out or update participant bios:
> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
>
>
___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
http://www.members.re-wrenches.org



Re: [RE-wrenches] Automatic load control

2023-12-15 Thread david quattro via RE-wrenches
SPAN Panel, or

you can try Generac 7006 automatic load shed device (100A)
https://apelectric.com/generac-7006-smart-management-module/
Or G7000 (50Amp)
I’ve heard they work with other inverters, not just GENERAC only, but of
course you’d have no warranty when mixing brands.
David



On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 6:36 PM Howie Michaelson via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am trying to figure out best options to control loads in a  Sol-Ark15k
> battery backup residential system.  It's been quite a few years since I've
> set up an automatic load control, and never with a Sol-Ark. The Sol-Ark
> will output to the main breaker panel, so no separate "backed up" panel -
> all house loads will likely be on the Sol-Ark's load side.
>
> What do folks like to use in this type of circumstance to automatically
> shed loads when the grid is down,  either sequentially as the battery bank
> drops down or more simply triggered by loss of grid? Are they pieces of
> equipment that work specifically with the Sol-Ark?
> I'd also be open to considering Fortress's Envy, if there is an option
> that would work well specifically with it.
> I'm interested in the range of options from simple to complicated, as long
> as it is automated.  All automated ideas/options appreciated.
> Thanks!
> Howie Michaelson
> Sun Catcher
> ___
> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance
>
> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org
>
> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
>
> Change listserver email address & settings:
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>
> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the
> other:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>
> List rules & etiquette:
> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm
>
> Check out or update participant bios:
> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
>
>
___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
http://www.members.re-wrenches.org