Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext
It is the StorEdge that is actually connected to the grid and it can be programmed in a variety of modes. One is to not export.-GlennSent from my 'smart'phone, so please excuse typos and spelling errors.-- Original message--From: AndrewDate: Tue, Jun 25, 2019 12:14 PMTo: 'RE-wrenches';Cc: Subject:Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conextI would love to use that setup but I cant export any power, I can buy it but nothing can go back to the grid. Can the LG Chem be programmed to do that? I havent put one in yet but really want too. Andrew PerkinsGreenwiredP: 707-923-2001 ext. 1001150 #1 Evergreen RdRedway, CA 95560www.greenwired.com From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of August GoersSent: Monday, June 24, 2019 3:29 PMTo: RE-wrenchesSubject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext Andrew - I imagine you've already considered a StorEdge and LG Chem battery? AugustLuminalt On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 11:18 AM Andrew wrote:Wrenches, I got a situation where I got a client who wants to get solar with battery backup but where he is located the grid cannot currently accept incoming solar, but we can buy from them. I was thinking about doing an conext xw system and then solaredge ac coupling for module level shutdown but I don’t know how well that would be on the conext side of things for charging some discover lithium ion batteries? I would rather do standard DC coupled system but not familiar with any of those 3rd party rapid shutdown devices(fire raptor and midnite?), has anyone used any before? Andrew PerkinsGreenwiredP: 707-923-2001 ext. 1001150 #1 Evergreen RdRedway, CA 95560www.greenwired.com ___List sponsored by Redwood AllianceList Address: re-wrenc...@lists.re-wrenches.orgChange listserver email address & settings:http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.orgList-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.htmlList rules & etiquette:www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htmCheck out or update participant bios:www.members.re-wrenches.org___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext
Andrew, Did you see the self consumption or backup on XW+? Also XWPro is only a bit more and has a 10 product warranty on it. If you used this with the Discover AES LFP, xanbus can directly link Soc and all battery data to anywhere in the world on Insight2. https://solar.schneider-electric.com/solution/commercial-self-consumption/ [1] On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 09:14:24 -0700, "Andrew" wrote: I would love to use that setup but I cant export any power, I can buy it but nothing can go back to the grid. Can the LG Chem be programmed to do that? I havent put one in yet but really want too. Andrew Perkins Greenwired P: 707-923-2001 ext. 100 1150 #1 Evergreen Rd Redway, CA 95560 www.greenwired.com FROM: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] ON BEHALF OF August Goers SENT: Monday, June 24, 2019 3:29 PM TO: RE-wrenches SUBJECT: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext Andrew - I imagine you've already considered a StorEdge and LG Chem battery? August Luminalt On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 11:18 AM Andrew wrote: Wrenches, I got a situation where I got a client who wants to get solar with battery backup but where he is located the grid cannot currently accept incoming solar, but we can buy from them. I was thinking about doing an conext xw system and then solaredge ac coupling for module level shutdown but I don't know how well that would be on the conext side of things for charging some discover lithium ion batteries? I would rather do standard DC coupled system but not familiar with any of those 3rd party rapid shutdown devices(fire raptor and midnite?), has anyone used any before? Andrew Perkins Greenwired P: 707-923-2001 ext. 100 1150 #1 Evergreen Rd Redway, CA 95560 www.greenwired.com [3] ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org [4] Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org [5] List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html [6] List rules ">Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar "we go where powerlines don't" http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ [9] e-mail offgridso...@sti.net [10] text 209 813 0060 Links: -- [1] https://solar.schneider-electric.com/solution/commercial-self-consumption/ [2] mailto:and...@greenwired.com [3] http://www.greenwired.com [4] mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org [5] http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org [6] http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html [7] http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm [8] http://www.members.re-wrenches.org [9] http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ [10] mailto:offgridso...@sti.net ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext
Hello Drake This is from the App note OutBack’s Frequency Shift AC Coupling is only employed in the Radian GS(A) class inverter at this time. It requires a firmware upgrade on both the Radian inverter and MATE3s system display and controller. The firmware is only available by download on the OutBack Power website. The GS-AC-GEN –KIT is available from Distributors. It contains the needed breakers and relays the app note shows the wiring. Take Care Sir From: RE-wrenches On Behalf Of drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 2:57 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext Hi Lones, Can the frequency shift be retrofitted to an earlier radian, four + years old? The unit now has the obsolete, remote operated circuit breaker (ROCB) that I'm a bit concerned about. Thanks, Drake - Original Message - From: "RE-wrenches" mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>> To: "RE-wrenches" mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>> Cc: Sent: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 19:32:22 +0000 Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext Hi Andrew OutBack now has AC Coupling for the Radian using frequency shift. Below is a link to the Ac Coupling/ Frequency Shift App Note located on the OutBack website. http://www.outbackpower.com/downloads/documents/appnotes/acc_freq_app_note.pdf You also state the client wants to “get solar” in a situation where the grid cannot accept incoming solar. The radian has several modes which utilizes solar and will prevent sell back. This might be an option to consider. Take Care Sir From: RE-wrenches mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>> On Behalf Of Andrew Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 11:18 AM To: RE-wrenches mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext ** [EXTERNAL EMAIL] - Please report any suspicious attachments, links, or requests for sensitive information to the Help Desk. ** Wrenches, I got a situation where I got a client who wants to get solar with battery backup but where he is located the grid cannot currently accept incoming solar, but we can buy from them. I was thinking about doing an conext xw system and then solaredge ac coupling for module level shutdown but I don’t know how well that would be on the conext side of things for charging some discover lithium ion batteries? I would rather do standard DC coupled system but not familiar with any of those 3rd party rapid shutdown devices(fire raptor and midnite?), has anyone used any before? Andrew Perkins Greenwired P: 707-923-2001 ext. 100 1150 #1 Evergreen Rd Redway, CA 95560 www.greenwired.com<http://www.greenwired.com> ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext
Andrew - With the StorEdge and LG Chem product, the StorEdge inverter (DC coupled inverter for both PV and the battery) is the brains of the system and can be programmed to your liking. If you are not familiar with the product, you should check it out. https://www.solaredge.com/us/products/storedge#/ August On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 9:14 AM Andrew wrote: > I would love to use that setup but I cant export any power, I can buy it > but nothing can go back to the grid. Can the LG Chem be programmed to do > that? I havent put one in yet but really want too. > > > > Andrew Perkins > > Greenwired > > P: 707-923-2001 ext. 100 > > 1150 #1 Evergreen Rd > > Redway, CA 95560 > > www.greenwired.com > > [image: Description: signature] > > > > > > > > *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On > Behalf Of *August Goers > *Sent:* Monday, June 24, 2019 3:29 PM > *To:* RE-wrenches > *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext > > > > Andrew - I imagine you've already considered a StorEdge and LG Chem > battery? > > > > August > > Luminalt > > > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 11:18 AM Andrew wrote: > > Wrenches, > > I got a situation where I got a client who wants to get > solar with battery backup but where he is located the grid cannot currently > accept incoming solar, but we can buy from them. I was thinking about doing > an conext xw system and then solaredge ac coupling for module level > shutdown but I don’t know how well that would be on the conext side of > things for charging some discover lithium ion batteries? I would rather do > standard DC coupled system but not familiar with any of those 3rd party > rapid shutdown devices(fire raptor and midnite?), has anyone used any > before? > > > > Andrew Perkins > > Greenwired > > P: 707-923-2001 ext. 100 > > 1150 #1 Evergreen Rd > > Redway, CA 95560 > > www.greenwired.com > > [image: Description: signature] > > > > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext
I would love to use that setup but I cant export any power, I can buy it but nothing can go back to the grid. Can the LG Chem be programmed to do that? I havent put one in yet but really want too. Andrew Perkins Greenwired P: 707-923-2001 ext. 100 1150 #1 Evergreen Rd Redway, CA 95560 www.greenwired.com Description: signature From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of August Goers Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 3:29 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext Andrew - I imagine you've already considered a StorEdge and LG Chem battery? August Luminalt On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 11:18 AM Andrew wrote: Wrenches, I got a situation where I got a client who wants to get solar with battery backup but where he is located the grid cannot currently accept incoming solar, but we can buy from them. I was thinking about doing an conext xw system and then solaredge ac coupling for module level shutdown but I don’t know how well that would be on the conext side of things for charging some discover lithium ion batteries? I would rather do standard DC coupled system but not familiar with any of those 3rd party rapid shutdown devices(fire raptor and midnite?), has anyone used any before? Andrew Perkins Greenwired P: 707-923-2001 ext. 100 1150 #1 Evergreen Rd Redway, CA 95560 www.greenwired.com Description: signature ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext
Tigo awesome I will check them out thanks Jerry! From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Shafer Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 5:47 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext Andrew You may want to look at Tigo for the MLSD, Outback Radian and Blue Ion LI battery W/integrated BMS Jerry On Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 11:18 AM Andrew wrote: Wrenches, I got a situation where I got a client who wants to get solar with battery backup but where he is located the grid cannot currently accept incoming solar, but we can buy from them. I was thinking about doing an conext xw system and then solaredge ac coupling for module level shutdown but I don’t know how well that would be on the conext side of things for charging some discover lithium ion batteries? I would rather do standard DC coupled system but not familiar with any of those 3rd party rapid shutdown devices(fire raptor and midnite?), has anyone used any before? Andrew Perkins Greenwired P: 707-923-2001 ext. 100 1150 #1 Evergreen Rd Redway, CA 95560 www.greenwired.com Description: signature ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext
Andrew Out back can be programmed to zero export no problem Jerry On Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 11:18 AM Andrew wrote: > Wrenches, > > I got a situation where I got a client who wants to get > solar with battery backup but where he is located the grid cannot currently > accept incoming solar, but we can buy from them. I was thinking about doing > an conext xw system and then solaredge ac coupling for module level > shutdown but I don’t know how well that would be on the conext side of > things for charging some discover lithium ion batteries? I would rather do > standard DC coupled system but not familiar with any of those 3rd party > rapid shutdown devices(fire raptor and midnite?), has anyone used any > before? > > > > Andrew Perkins > > Greenwired > > P: 707-923-2001 ext. 100 > > 1150 #1 Evergreen Rd > > Redway, CA 95560 > > www.greenwired.com > > [image: Description: signature] > > > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext
Andrew You may want to look at Tigo for the MLSD, Outback Radian and Blue Ion LI battery W/integrated BMS Jerry On Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 11:18 AM Andrew wrote: > Wrenches, > > I got a situation where I got a client who wants to get > solar with battery backup but where he is located the grid cannot currently > accept incoming solar, but we can buy from them. I was thinking about doing > an conext xw system and then solaredge ac coupling for module level > shutdown but I don’t know how well that would be on the conext side of > things for charging some discover lithium ion batteries? I would rather do > standard DC coupled system but not familiar with any of those 3rd party > rapid shutdown devices(fire raptor and midnite?), has anyone used any > before? > > > > Andrew Perkins > > Greenwired > > P: 707-923-2001 ext. 100 > > 1150 #1 Evergreen Rd > > Redway, CA 95560 > > www.greenwired.com > > [image: Description: signature] > > > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext
Andrew - I imagine you've already considered a StorEdge and LG Chem battery? August Luminalt On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 11:18 AM Andrew wrote: > Wrenches, > > I got a situation where I got a client who wants to get > solar with battery backup but where he is located the grid cannot currently > accept incoming solar, but we can buy from them. I was thinking about doing > an conext xw system and then solaredge ac coupling for module level > shutdown but I don’t know how well that would be on the conext side of > things for charging some discover lithium ion batteries? I would rather do > standard DC coupled system but not familiar with any of those 3rd party > rapid shutdown devices(fire raptor and midnite?), has anyone used any > before? > > > > Andrew Perkins > > Greenwired > > P: 707-923-2001 ext. 100 > > 1150 #1 Evergreen Rd > > Redway, CA 95560 > > www.greenwired.com > > [image: Description: signature] > > > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext
Hi Lones, Can the frequency shift be retrofitted to an earlier radian, four + years old? The unit now has the obsolete, remote operated circuit breaker (ROCB) that I'm a bit concerned about. Thanks, Drake - Original Message - From: "RE-wrenches" To: "RE-wrenches" Cc: Sent: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 19:32:22 +0000 Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext Hi Andrew OutBack now has AC Coupling for the Radian using frequency shift. Below is a link to the Ac Coupling/ Frequency Shift App Note located on the OutBack website. http://www.outbackpower.com/downloads/documents/appnotes/acc_freq_app_note.pdf [1] You also state the client wants to “get solar” in a situation where the grid cannot accept incoming solar. The radian has several modes which utilizes solar and will prevent sell back. This might be an option to consider. Take Care Sir FROM: RE-wrenches ON BEHALF OF Andrew SENT: Monday, June 24, 2019 11:18 AM TO: RE-wrenches SUBJECT: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext ** [EXTERNAL EMAIL] - PLEASE REPORT ANY SUSPICIOUS ATTACHMENTS, LINKS, OR REQUESTS FOR SENSITIVE INFORMATION TO THE HELP DESK. ** Wrenches, I got a situation where I got a client who wants to get solar with battery backup but where he is located the grid cannot currently accept incoming solar, but we can buy from them. I was thinking about doing an conext xw system and then solaredge ac coupling for module level shutdown but I don’t know how well that would be on the conext side of things for charging some discover lithium ion batteries? I would rather do standard DC coupled system but not familiar with any of those 3rd party rapid shutdown devices(fire raptor and midnite?), has anyone used any before? Andrew Perkins Greenwired P: 707-923-2001 ext. 100 1150 #1 Evergreen Rd Redway, CA 95560 www.greenwired.com [2] Links: -- [1] http://www.outbackpower.com/downloads/documents/appnotes/acc_freq_app_note.pdf [2] http://www.greenwired.com ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext
The only way to grid zero with a Radian is with dc coupled solar. AC coupled with frequency shift has to sell to the grid. [cid:f07d6127-e785-47a3-bb9f-37ca4a425465]Barton Churchill, Project Manager Power Division 2042 Stadium Drive Suite 2 • Bozeman, MT 59715 • (O) 406-587-2917 • (D) 406-589-4493 235 E. Broadway • Jackson, WY 83001 • (O) 307-200-2210 bchurch...@energy-1.net<mailto:blans...@energy-1.net> | www.energy-1.net<http://www.energy-1.net/> From: RE-wrenches on behalf of pgir...@mindspring.com Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 1:33 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext Yes, they do LI’s. Yes they sell their own batteries but we are in the process of using one with Tesla car batteries ( harvested from damaged Tesla’s ). They helped by modifying some the factory settings for us. peter From: RE-wrenches On Behalf Of Andrew Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 3:30 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext Hey Peter, Thanks for the input, I recently had another installer recommend them to me a couple weeks ago so Ill check them out. Do you know if they can handle the lithium ion batteries? Kinda looks like they have their own battery? Andrew Perkins Greenwired P: 707-923-2001 ext. 100 1150 #1 Evergreen Rd Redway, CA 95560 www.greenwired.com<http://www.greenwired.com> [Description: signature] From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of pgir...@mindspring.com<mailto:pgir...@mindspring.com> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 12:06 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext Andrew Take a look at the Sol-Ark product. Far more robust than the SE and probably the best hybrid on the market. Can take up to 11 kw worth of solar, 8 kw AC of output with high peak levels. Easy to wire and the customer support is great. Does work with rapid shut down from a few vendors. We have been very happy with the production #s as well as the battery charging and management. Can be programed to power the CL panels as well as the main panel without selling back to the grid. Thx Peter Giroux ASAE From: RE-wrenches mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>> On Behalf Of Andrew Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 2:18 PM To: RE-wrenches mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext Wrenches, I got a situation where I got a client who wants to get solar with battery backup but where he is located the grid cannot currently accept incoming solar, but we can buy from them. I was thinking about doing an conext xw system and then solaredge ac coupling for module level shutdown but I don’t know how well that would be on the conext side of things for charging some discover lithium ion batteries? I would rather do standard DC coupled system but not familiar with any of those 3rd party rapid shutdown devices(fire raptor and midnite?), has anyone used any before? Andrew Perkins Greenwired P: 707-923-2001 ext. 100 1150 #1 Evergreen Rd Redway, CA 95560 www.greenwired.com<http://www.greenwired.com> [Description: signature] ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext
Yes, they do LI's. Yes they sell their own batteries but we are in the process of using one with Tesla car batteries ( harvested from damaged Tesla's ). They helped by modifying some the factory settings for us. peter From: RE-wrenches On Behalf Of Andrew Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 3:30 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext Hey Peter, Thanks for the input, I recently had another installer recommend them to me a couple weeks ago so Ill check them out. Do you know if they can handle the lithium ion batteries? Kinda looks like they have their own battery? Andrew Perkins Greenwired P: 707-923-2001 ext. 100 1150 #1 Evergreen Rd Redway, CA 95560 www.greenwired.com <http://www.greenwired.com> From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of pgir...@mindspring.com <mailto:pgir...@mindspring.com> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 12:06 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext Andrew Take a look at the Sol-Ark product. Far more robust than the SE and probably the best hybrid on the market. Can take up to 11 kw worth of solar, 8 kw AC of output with high peak levels. Easy to wire and the customer support is great. Does work with rapid shut down from a few vendors. We have been very happy with the production #s as well as the battery charging and management. Can be programed to power the CL panels as well as the main panel without selling back to the grid. Thx Peter Giroux ASAE From: RE-wrenches mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org> > On Behalf Of Andrew Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 2:18 PM To: RE-wrenches mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> > Subject: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext Wrenches, I got a situation where I got a client who wants to get solar with battery backup but where he is located the grid cannot currently accept incoming solar, but we can buy from them. I was thinking about doing an conext xw system and then solaredge ac coupling for module level shutdown but I don't know how well that would be on the conext side of things for charging some discover lithium ion batteries? I would rather do standard DC coupled system but not familiar with any of those 3rd party rapid shutdown devices(fire raptor and midnite?), has anyone used any before? Andrew Perkins Greenwired P: 707-923-2001 ext. 100 1150 #1 Evergreen Rd Redway, CA 95560 www.greenwired.com <http://www.greenwired.com> ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext
Hi Andrew OutBack now has AC Coupling for the Radian using frequency shift. Below is a link to the Ac Coupling/ Frequency Shift App Note located on the OutBack website. http://www.outbackpower.com/downloads/documents/appnotes/acc_freq_app_note.pdf You also state the client wants to "get solar" in a situation where the grid cannot accept incoming solar. The radian has several modes which utilizes solar and will prevent sell back. This might be an option to consider. Take Care Sir From: RE-wrenches On Behalf Of Andrew Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 11:18 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext ** [EXTERNAL EMAIL] - Please report any suspicious attachments, links, or requests for sensitive information to the Help Desk. ** Wrenches, I got a situation where I got a client who wants to get solar with battery backup but where he is located the grid cannot currently accept incoming solar, but we can buy from them. I was thinking about doing an conext xw system and then solaredge ac coupling for module level shutdown but I don't know how well that would be on the conext side of things for charging some discover lithium ion batteries? I would rather do standard DC coupled system but not familiar with any of those 3rd party rapid shutdown devices(fire raptor and midnite?), has anyone used any before? Andrew Perkins Greenwired P: 707-923-2001 ext. 100 1150 #1 Evergreen Rd Redway, CA 95560 www.greenwired.com<http://www.greenwired.com> [Description: signature] ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext
Hey Peter, Thanks for the input, I recently had another installer recommend them to me a couple weeks ago so Ill check them out. Do you know if they can handle the lithium ion batteries? Kinda looks like they have their own battery? Andrew Perkins Greenwired P: 707-923-2001 ext. 100 1150 #1 Evergreen Rd Redway, CA 95560 www.greenwired.com Description: signature From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of pgir...@mindspring.com Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 12:06 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext Andrew Take a look at the Sol-Ark product. Far more robust than the SE and probably the best hybrid on the market. Can take up to 11 kw worth of solar, 8 kw AC of output with high peak levels. Easy to wire and the customer support is great. Does work with rapid shut down from a few vendors. We have been very happy with the production #s as well as the battery charging and management. Can be programed to power the CL panels as well as the main panel without selling back to the grid. Thx Peter Giroux ASAE From: RE-wrenches On Behalf Of Andrew Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 2:18 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext Wrenches, I got a situation where I got a client who wants to get solar with battery backup but where he is located the grid cannot currently accept incoming solar, but we can buy from them. I was thinking about doing an conext xw system and then solaredge ac coupling for module level shutdown but I don't know how well that would be on the conext side of things for charging some discover lithium ion batteries? I would rather do standard DC coupled system but not familiar with any of those 3rd party rapid shutdown devices(fire raptor and midnite?), has anyone used any before? Andrew Perkins Greenwired P: 707-923-2001 ext. 100 1150 #1 Evergreen Rd Redway, CA 95560 www.greenwired.com Description: signature ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext
Hi Andrew, The last firmware added some new XW features. I do not know how easy it would be to shut down a roof system. Here is a link to the latest revision. https://solar.schneider-electric.com/conext-gateway-now-compatible-with-string-inverters/ [1] Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar "we go where powerlines don't" http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ [2] e-mail offgridso...@sti.net [3] text 209 813 0060 On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:18:10 -0700, "Andrew" wrote: Wrenches, I got a situation where I got a client who wants to get solar with battery backup but where he is located the grid cannot currently accept incoming solar, but we can buy from them. I was thinking about doing an conext xw system and then solaredge ac coupling for module level shutdown but I don't know how well that would be on the conext side of things for charging some discover lithium ion batteries? I would rather do standard DC coupled system but not familiar with any of those 3rd party rapid shutdown devices(fire raptor and midnite?), has anyone used any before? Andrew Perkins Greenwired P: 707-923-2001 ext. 100 1150 #1 Evergreen Rd Redway, CA 95560 www.greenwired.com -- Links: -- [1] https://solar.schneider-electric.com/conext-gateway-now-compatible-with-string-inverters/ [2] http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ [3] mailto:offgridso...@sti.net ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext
Andrew Take a look at the Sol-Ark product. Far more robust than the SE and probably the best hybrid on the market. Can take up to 11 kw worth of solar, 8 kw AC of output with high peak levels. Easy to wire and the customer support is great. Does work with rapid shut down from a few vendors. We have been very happy with the production #s as well as the battery charging and management. Can be programed to power the CL panels as well as the main panel without selling back to the grid. Thx Peter Giroux ASAE From: RE-wrenches On Behalf Of Andrew Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 2:18 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext Wrenches, I got a situation where I got a client who wants to get solar with battery backup but where he is located the grid cannot currently accept incoming solar, but we can buy from them. I was thinking about doing an conext xw system and then solaredge ac coupling for module level shutdown but I don't know how well that would be on the conext side of things for charging some discover lithium ion batteries? I would rather do standard DC coupled system but not familiar with any of those 3rd party rapid shutdown devices(fire raptor and midnite?), has anyone used any before? Andrew Perkins Greenwired P: 707-923-2001 ext. 100 1150 #1 Evergreen Rd Redway, CA 95560 www.greenwired.com <http://www.greenwired.com> ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] AC/DC coupling on conext
Wrenches, I got a situation where I got a client who wants to get solar with battery backup but where he is located the grid cannot currently accept incoming solar, but we can buy from them. I was thinking about doing an conext xw system and then solaredge ac coupling for module level shutdown but I don't know how well that would be on the conext side of things for charging some discover lithium ion batteries? I would rather do standard DC coupled system but not familiar with any of those 3rd party rapid shutdown devices(fire raptor and midnite?), has anyone used any before? Andrew Perkins Greenwired P: 707-923-2001 ext. 100 1150 #1 Evergreen Rd Redway, CA 95560 www.greenwired.com Description: signature ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org