[RE-wrenches] Outback programing question

[jay]

I want to add here that this whole thread came about because of a special and 
unusual need that a client of mine had. I received a few comments about why was 
I doing it this way. But the client wanted it this way, and I agreed so my job 
was to make it happen, with I did.  

With the help of many people from outback ( whom I’d like to thank all of them 
very much)  we did come up with a fix, which is what Lones has described below. 

And this customer is very savvy, and knows how to get around the M3.  His 
normal mode is a standard volt/% AGS start.  When he is done with this odd 
situation he will put the Generator mode back to AC from DC.  

Sincerely,

Jay Peltz







> On May 9, 2016, at 10:10 AM, Lones Tuss  wrote:
> 
> Hello Fellow Wrenches
> 
>  Due to customer feedback OutBack decided to automatically enable the 
> Inverters Ac Charger
> if the Mate(3) called for an AGS (gen run) condition.  The general opinion 
> here is if the gen is running you might as well allow it to charge your 
> batteries. Before we did this there were instances of generators running for 
> hours/days before the end user discovered he had set the charger to OFF. 
> 
> That being said if charging by the inverter is not desired during a Gen run 
> there
> are several methods which will allow charging to be disabled.
> 
> The method you use will more than likely depend on your situation.
> If you wish to stop charging for the current gen run simply turn the Charge 
> Off after the gen is running.
> On the Mate3 press the Charger Button select OFF.
> On the Mate and Mate2 press the AC Input button three times
> the Charger can be turned  OFF there.
> 
> If it is necessary to turn the charger off on a more permanent basis there 
> are a couple of different approaches.
> One method is to go to the inverter charger menu and set the absorb and float 
> timers to zero.
> Another method and perhaps the easiest would be to change the gen type to DC 
> or None.
> Of these two I would suggest DC as the preferred choice.
> After setting the Inverter Charger to Off follow the path as described below 
> 
> 
> On the Mate3 press the 
> LOCK button
> Enter 141
> Select 
> Settings then
> System  then 
> System Information
> change Gen Type to DC or None.
> If the inverters charger is disabled it will remain so when AGS calls for a 
> gen run.
> On the Mate or Mate2
> In the AGS program menu select DC gen and the Auto Charge feature will be 
> negated.
> 
> The above will work if the gen run is caused by the following AGS triggers.
> Load Start, Must Run, Generator Exercise
> If the gen run condition is a Voltage Start the trigger to turn the gen off 
> is the batteries must reach the Absorb Voltage for the Absorb Time.
> If the gen run condition is SOC the trigger to turn the gen off is the 
> batteries must reach
> the end SOC set point.
> These points may be unachievable with the inverters charger set to OFF.
> If this is the case lack of fuel may be the gen stop reason.
> 
> Lones Tuss
> Applications Engineer
> OutBack Power Technologies
> 17825 59th Ave NE, Suite B, Arlington, WA 98223
> 360.618.4383 Office | 425.213.8794 Cell
> www.outbackpower.com
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On 
> Behalf Of Darren Emmons
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 10:57 AM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback programing question
> 
> When the generator is auto started, the inverter's charger will be enabled. 
> After the generator is stopped, the inverter's charger will be returned to 
> the mode before the generator started. The logic is if you are running the 
> generator the Inverter's charger should be enabled. You could lower the 
> charger AC limit to 0 Amps.
> 
> 08:00 Inverter charger OFF
> 10:00 Must run start -> charger ON
> 11:00 Must run stop -> charger OFF
> 
>> Darren
> 
> 

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback programing question

[William Miller]

Wrenches, Mr. Tuss:



I have had many customers suffer due to the exact problems described
below.  That is, a generator running but no charging happening.  This is
due to either inadvertent changes in the AC Drop mode or Global Charge Mode
settings.



I think it was a big mistake on the standard Mate to put the Charge Control
Mode and the AC Drop menus in so easily accessible a location as the AC
dedicated button menu.  This is the menu you need to access frequently to
manually start a generator.  The Charge Control Mode and the AC screens are
very similar in appearance to the generator start menus and it is very
common for users to engage the drop mode or turn charging off
inadvertently.  I have had customers ruin expensive battery sets with this
mistake.



I approached Outback to suggest they rectify this problem with a firmware
update.  My suggestion was to relocate these functions behind the installer
password.



I was told this change was not possible due to lack of memory on the Mate
hardware.  I find this hard to believe as this change would not add any
functionality but rather move the aforementioned screens to behind the
password protection.  There would be not net gain in functionality.



It is my belief that Outback does not realize the seriousness of this
situation and the implications of this flaw in the design.  Mr. Tuss, what
is your opinion on this issue?  Is it truly impossible to fix this design
flaw?



Thank you for your participation in the Wrenches forum and in advance for
your reply to my questions.



Sincerely,



William Miller







Lic 773985

millersolar.com

805-438-5600



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From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On
Behalf Of Lones Tuss
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 10:11 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback programing question



Hello Fellow Wrenches



  Due to customer feedback OutBack decided to automatically enable the
Inverters Ac Charger if the Mate(3) called for an AGS (gen run) condition.
The general opinion here is if the gen is running you might as well allow
it to charge your batteries. Before we did this there were instances of
generators running for hours/days before the end user discovered he had set
the charger to OFF.



That being said if charging by the inverter is not desired during a Gen run
there are several methods which will allow charging to be disabled.



The method you use will more than likely depend on your situation.

If you wish to stop charging for the current gen run simply turn the Charge
Off after the gen is running.

On the Mate3 press the Charger Button select OFF.

On the Mate and Mate2 press the AC Input button three times the Charger can
be turned  OFF there.



If it is necessary to turn the charger off on a more permanent basis there
are a couple of different approaches.

One method is to go to the inverter charger menu and set the absorb and
float timers to zero.

Another method and perhaps the easiest would be to change the gen type to
DC or None.

Of these two I would suggest DC as the preferred choice.

After setting the Inverter Charger to Off follow the path as described
below





On the Mate3 press the

LOCK button

Enter 141

Select

Settings then

System  then

System Information

change Gen Type to DC or None.

If the inverters charger is disabled it will remain so when AGS calls for a
gen run.

On the Mate or Mate2

In the AGS program menu select DC gen and the Auto Charge feature will be
negated.



The above will work if the gen run is caused by the following AGS triggers.

Load Start, Must Run, Generator Exercise If the gen run condition is a
Voltage Start the trigger to turn the gen off is the batteries must reach
the Absorb Voltage for the Absorb Time.

If the gen run condition is SOC the trigger to turn the gen off is the
batteries must reach the end SOC set point.

These points may be unachievable with the inverters charger set to OFF.

If this is the case lack of fuel may be the gen stop reason.



Lones Tuss

Applications Engineer

OutBack Power Technologies

17825 59th Ave NE, Suite B, Arlington, WA 98223

360.618.4383 Office | 425.213.8794 Cell

www.outbackpower.com



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From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
] On Behalf Of Darren Emmons

Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 10:57 AM

To: RE-wrenches

Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback programing question



When the generator is auto started, the inverter's charger will be enabled.
After the generator is stopped, the inverter's charger will be returned to
the mode before the generator started. The logic is if you are running the
generator the Inverter's charger should be enabled. You could lower the
charger AC limit to 0 Amps.



08:00 Inverter charger OFF

10:00 Must run start -> charger ON

11:00 Must run stop -> charger OFF



>Darren





On 04/27/2016 05:31 PM, jay wrote:

> HI All,

>

> I've 

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback programing question

[Lones Tuss]

Hello Fellow Wrenches

  Due to customer feedback OutBack decided to automatically enable the 
Inverters Ac Charger
if the Mate(3) called for an AGS (gen run) condition.  The general opinion here 
is if the gen is running you might as well allow it to charge your batteries. 
Before we did this there were instances of generators running for hours/days 
before the end user discovered he had set the charger to OFF. 

That being said if charging by the inverter is not desired during a Gen run 
there
are several methods which will allow charging to be disabled.

The method you use will more than likely depend on your situation.
If you wish to stop charging for the current gen run simply turn the Charge Off 
after the gen is running.
On the Mate3 press the Charger Button select OFF.
On the Mate and Mate2 press the AC Input button three times
the Charger can be turned  OFF there.

If it is necessary to turn the charger off on a more permanent basis there are 
a couple of different approaches.
One method is to go to the inverter charger menu and set the absorb and float 
timers to zero.
Another method and perhaps the easiest would be to change the gen type to DC or 
None.
Of these two I would suggest DC as the preferred choice.
After setting the Inverter Charger to Off follow the path as described below 


On the Mate3 press the 
LOCK button
Enter 141
Select 
Settings then
System  then 
System Information
change Gen Type to DC or None.
If the inverters charger is disabled it will remain so when AGS calls for a gen 
run.
On the Mate or Mate2
In the AGS program menu select DC gen and the Auto Charge feature will be 
negated.

The above will work if the gen run is caused by the following AGS triggers.
Load Start, Must Run, Generator Exercise
If the gen run condition is a Voltage Start the trigger to turn the gen off is 
the batteries must reach the Absorb Voltage for the Absorb Time.
If the gen run condition is SOC the trigger to turn the gen off is the 
batteries must reach
the end SOC set point.
These points may be unachievable with the inverters charger set to OFF.
If this is the case lack of fuel may be the gen stop reason.

Lones Tuss
Applications Engineer
OutBack Power Technologies
17825 59th Ave NE, Suite B, Arlington, WA 98223
360.618.4383 Office | 425.213.8794 Cell
www.outbackpower.com

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From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Darren Emmons
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 10:57 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback programing question

When the generator is auto started, the inverter's charger will be enabled. 
After the generator is stopped, the inverter's charger will be returned to the 
mode before the generator started. The logic is if you are running the 
generator the Inverter's charger should be enabled. You could lower the charger 
AC limit to 0 Amps.

08:00 Inverter charger OFF
10:00 Must run start -> charger ON
11:00 Must run stop -> charger OFF

 >Darren


On 04/27/2016 05:31 PM, jay wrote:
> HI All,
>
> I've got a problem that outback tech hasn't been able to figure out.
>
> off grid system
> mate 3
> quad stacked VFX 3648
>
> The generator is set to specific start/stop daily timer.  This works fine.
>
> The client has plenty of solar for the day, and when he runs his generator he 
> doesn't want the chargers to operate.
> OK so just hit charge off, and yes the chargers will turn off.
>
> But next day, genny starts up, and the chargers come back on as well.
>
> Outback says that shouldn't be happening, but it is.
>
> Anybody have this issue or know of a fix?
>
> Thanks
>
> jay
>
> peltz power
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback programing question

[Chris Mason]

There's new firmware out today for the MATE3, you should probably try that.

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:31 PM, jay  wrote:

> HI All,
>
> I’ve got a problem that outback tech hasn’t been able to figure out.
>
> off grid system
> mate 3
> quad stacked VFX 3648
>
> The generator is set to specific start/stop daily timer.  This works fine.
>
> The client has plenty of solar for the day, and when he runs his generator
> he doesn’t want the chargers to operate.
> OK so just hit charge off, and yes the chargers will turn off.
>
> But next day, genny starts up, and the chargers come back on as well.
>
> Outback says that shouldn’t be happening, but it is.
>
> Anybody have this issue or know of a fix?
>
> Thanks
>
> jay
>
> peltz power
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback programing question

[Chris Mason]

Why size is the generator?
How much load?

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:31 PM, jay  wrote:

> HI All,
>
> I’ve got a problem that outback tech hasn’t been able to figure out.
>
> off grid system
> mate 3
> quad stacked VFX 3648
>
> The generator is set to specific start/stop daily timer.  This works fine.
>
> The client has plenty of solar for the day, and when he runs his generator
> he doesn’t want the chargers to operate.
> OK so just hit charge off, and yes the chargers will turn off.
>
> But next day, genny starts up, and the chargers come back on as well.
>
> Outback says that shouldn’t be happening, but it is.
>
> Anybody have this issue or know of a fix?
>
> Thanks
>
> jay
>
> peltz power
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback programing question

[Jay]

That is what we are doing as a temporary fix. 
According to outback the charger should stay off if it's set that way.  It's 
unclear why it's not doing it. 

Actually opticsRE will allow full programming. 
No phone app ( darn) but computer yes. 

Jay



> On Apr 29, 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ray Walters  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jay;
> 
> Ah, its for load shedding.  How come the max input amps setting doesn't limit 
> the total power drawn from the generator?  That should throttle back the 
> charging rate to maintain full power thru to the loads.
> Giving the batteries a 56 v for 5 min and dropping back to float wouldn't 
> constitute a cycle,  its really more like the refloat setting on Outback 
> equipment.  It actually should bring the batteries a few % closer to a true 
> full charge every day without overheating the cells.
> I agree programming every inverter separately is a pain, not something the 
> customer would want to do.  (I'm still waiting for that app that lets us set 
> up systems with a laptop or phone)
> Good luck, please post your solution.
> 
> R.Ray Walters
> CTO, Solarray, Inc
> Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
> Licensed Master Electrician
> Solar Design Engineer
> 303 505-8760
> 
>> On 4/29/2016 6:19 PM, jay wrote:
>> Hi Ray,
>> 
>> I guess my answer is that its way easier to switch one button with easy 
>> access than go deep into the menus and have to change 4 inverters.
>> This situation is a short term thing.  In this case it is an issue as the 
>> generator cannot handle both the chargers and the load. And he doesn’t want 
>> and I agree to have an additional cycle on the batteries when they don’t 
>> need it.
>> 
>> I’m working with OB to find out why this is happening.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> jay
>> 
>> peltz power
>>   
>>> On Apr 29, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Ray Walters  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What's wrong with the chargers being on?  Just set the charge settings 
>>> (absorb 56 v, and absorb time 5 minutes) fairly low. It will lightly charge 
>>> for a few minutes, and then go to float.
>>> Just because your customer imagines this to be a problem, doesn't mean it 
>>> actually is.  Its not going to hurt the batteries or use excessive fuel to 
>>> go through a little refresh charge like this, and if the batteries actually 
>>> are low, these charge settings will be helpful.
>>> 
>>> R.Ray Walters
>>> CTO, Solarray, Inc
>>> Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
>>> Licensed Master Electrician
>>> Solar Design Engineer
>>> 303 505-8760
>>> 
 On 4/29/2016 11:56 AM, Darren Emmons wrote:
 When the generator is auto started, the inverter's charger will be 
 enabled. After the generator is stopped, the inverter's charger will be 
 returned to the mode before the generator started. The logic is if you are 
 running the generator the Inverter's charger should be enabled. You could 
 lower the charger AC limit to 0 Amps.
 
 08:00 Inverter charger OFF
 10:00 Must run start -> charger ON
 11:00 Must run stop -> charger OFF
 
> Darren
 
> On 04/27/2016 05:31 PM, jay wrote:
> HI All,
> 
> I’ve got a problem that outback tech hasn’t been able to figure out.
> 
> off grid system
> mate 3
> quad stacked VFX 3648
> 
> The generator is set to specific start/stop daily timer.  This works fine.
> 
> The client has plenty of solar for the day, and when he runs his 
> generator he doesn’t want the chargers to operate.
> OK so just hit charge off, and yes the chargers will turn off.
> 
> But next day, genny starts up, and the chargers come back on as well.
> 
> Outback says that shouldn’t be happening, but it is.
> 
> Anybody have this issue or know of a fix?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> jay
> 
> peltz power
> 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback programing question

[Ray Walters]

Hi Jay;

Ah, its for load shedding.  How come the max input amps setting doesn't 
limit the total power drawn from the generator?  That should throttle 
back the charging rate to maintain full power thru to the loads.
Giving the batteries a 56 v for 5 min and dropping back to float 
wouldn't constitute a cycle,  its really more like the refloat setting 
on Outback equipment.  It actually should bring the batteries a few % 
closer to a true full charge every day without overheating the cells.
I agree programming every inverter separately is a pain, not something 
the customer would want to do.  (I'm still waiting for that app that 
lets us set up systems with a laptop or phone)

Good luck, please post your solution.

R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760

On 4/29/2016 6:19 PM, jay wrote:

Hi Ray,

I guess my answer is that its way easier to switch one button with easy access 
than go deep into the menus and have to change 4 inverters.
This situation is a short term thing.  In this case it is an issue as the 
generator cannot handle both the chargers and the load. And he doesn’t want and 
I agree to have an additional cycle on the batteries when they don’t need it.

I’m working with OB to find out why this is happening.

Thanks

jay

peltz power
   

On Apr 29, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Ray Walters  wrote:

What's wrong with the chargers being on?  Just set the charge settings (absorb 
56 v, and absorb time 5 minutes) fairly low. It will lightly charge for a few 
minutes, and then go to float.
Just because your customer imagines this to be a problem, doesn't mean it 
actually is.  Its not going to hurt the batteries or use excessive fuel to go 
through a little refresh charge like this, and if the batteries actually are 
low, these charge settings will be helpful.

R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760

On 4/29/2016 11:56 AM, Darren Emmons wrote:

When the generator is auto started, the inverter's charger will be enabled. 
After the generator is stopped, the inverter's charger will be returned to the 
mode before the generator started. The logic is if you are running the 
generator the Inverter's charger should be enabled. You could lower the charger 
AC limit to 0 Amps.

08:00 Inverter charger OFF
10:00 Must run start -> charger ON
11:00 Must run stop -> charger OFF


Darren


On 04/27/2016 05:31 PM, jay wrote:

HI All,

I’ve got a problem that outback tech hasn’t been able to figure out.

off grid system
mate 3
quad stacked VFX 3648

The generator is set to specific start/stop daily timer.  This works fine.

The client has plenty of solar for the day, and when he runs his generator he 
doesn’t want the chargers to operate.
OK so just hit charge off, and yes the chargers will turn off.

But next day, genny starts up, and the chargers come back on as well.

Outback says that shouldn’t be happening, but it is.

Anybody have this issue or know of a fix?

Thanks

jay

peltz power


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback programing question

[jay]

Hi Ray,

I guess my answer is that its way easier to switch one button with easy access 
than go deep into the menus and have to change 4 inverters.  
This situation is a short term thing.  In this case it is an issue as the 
generator cannot handle both the chargers and the load. And he doesn’t want and 
I agree to have an additional cycle on the batteries when they don’t need it.

I’m working with OB to find out why this is happening.  

Thanks

jay

peltz power
  
> On Apr 29, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Ray Walters  wrote:
> 
> What's wrong with the chargers being on?  Just set the charge settings 
> (absorb 56 v, and absorb time 5 minutes) fairly low. It will lightly charge 
> for a few minutes, and then go to float.
> Just because your customer imagines this to be a problem, doesn't mean it 
> actually is.  Its not going to hurt the batteries or use excessive fuel to go 
> through a little refresh charge like this, and if the batteries actually are 
> low, these charge settings will be helpful.
> 
> R.Ray Walters
> CTO, Solarray, Inc
> Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
> Licensed Master Electrician
> Solar Design Engineer
> 303 505-8760
> 
> On 4/29/2016 11:56 AM, Darren Emmons wrote:
>> When the generator is auto started, the inverter's charger will be enabled. 
>> After the generator is stopped, the inverter's charger will be returned to 
>> the mode before the generator started. The logic is if you are running the 
>> generator the Inverter's charger should be enabled. You could lower the 
>> charger AC limit to 0 Amps.
>> 
>> 08:00 Inverter charger OFF
>> 10:00 Must run start -> charger ON
>> 11:00 Must run stop -> charger OFF
>> 
>> >Darren
>> 
>> 
>> On 04/27/2016 05:31 PM, jay wrote:
>>> HI All,
>>> 
>>> I’ve got a problem that outback tech hasn’t been able to figure out.
>>> 
>>> off grid system
>>> mate 3
>>> quad stacked VFX 3648
>>> 
>>> The generator is set to specific start/stop daily timer.  This works fine.
>>> 
>>> The client has plenty of solar for the day, and when he runs his generator 
>>> he doesn’t want the chargers to operate.
>>> OK so just hit charge off, and yes the chargers will turn off.
>>> 
>>> But next day, genny starts up, and the chargers come back on as well.
>>> 
>>> Outback says that shouldn’t be happening, but it is.
>>> 
>>> Anybody have this issue or know of a fix?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> jay
>>> 
>>> peltz power
>>> 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback programing question

[Ray Walters]

What's wrong with the chargers being on?  Just set the charge settings 
(absorb 56 v, and absorb time 5 minutes) fairly low. It will lightly 
charge for a few minutes, and then go to float.
Just because your customer imagines this to be a problem, doesn't mean 
it actually is.  Its not going to hurt the batteries or use excessive 
fuel to go through a little refresh charge like this, and if the 
batteries actually are low, these charge settings will be helpful.


R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760

On 4/29/2016 11:56 AM, Darren Emmons wrote:
When the generator is auto started, the inverter's charger will be 
enabled. After the generator is stopped, the inverter's charger will 
be returned to the mode before the generator started. The logic is if 
you are running the generator the Inverter's charger should be 
enabled. You could lower the charger AC limit to 0 Amps.


08:00 Inverter charger OFF
10:00 Must run start -> charger ON
11:00 Must run stop -> charger OFF

>Darren


On 04/27/2016 05:31 PM, jay wrote:

HI All,

I’ve got a problem that outback tech hasn’t been able to figure out.

off grid system
mate 3
quad stacked VFX 3648

The generator is set to specific start/stop daily timer.  This works 
fine.


The client has plenty of solar for the day, and when he runs his 
generator he doesn’t want the chargers to operate.

OK so just hit charge off, and yes the chargers will turn off.

But next day, genny starts up, and the chargers come back on as well.

Outback says that shouldn’t be happening, but it is.

Anybody have this issue or know of a fix?

Thanks

jay

peltz power


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback programing question

[Darren Emmons]

When the generator is auto started, the inverter's charger will be 
enabled. After the generator is stopped, the inverter's charger will be 
returned to the mode before the generator started. The logic is if you 
are running the generator the Inverter's charger should be enabled. You 
could lower the charger AC limit to 0 Amps.


08:00 Inverter charger OFF
10:00 Must run start -> charger ON
11:00 Must run stop -> charger OFF

>Darren


On 04/27/2016 05:31 PM, jay wrote:

HI All,

I’ve got a problem that outback tech hasn’t been able to figure out.

off grid system
mate 3
quad stacked VFX 3648

The generator is set to specific start/stop daily timer.  This works fine.

The client has plenty of solar for the day, and when he runs his generator he 
doesn’t want the chargers to operate.
OK so just hit charge off, and yes the chargers will turn off.

But next day, genny starts up, and the chargers come back on as well.

Outback says that shouldn’t be happening, but it is.

Anybody have this issue or know of a fix?

Thanks

jay

peltz power


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback programing question

[frenergy]

Do you have the last firmware for the mate3?...002-019-000


Bill

Feather River Solar Electric

On 4/27/2016 5:31 PM, jay wrote:

HI All,

I’ve got a problem that outback tech hasn’t been able to figure out.

off grid system
mate 3
quad stacked VFX 3648

The generator is set to specific start/stop daily timer.  This works fine.

The client has plenty of solar for the day, and when he runs his generator he 
doesn’t want the chargers to operate.
OK so just hit charge off, and yes the chargers will turn off.

But next day, genny starts up, and the chargers come back on as well.

Outback says that shouldn’t be happening, but it is.

Anybody have this issue or know of a fix?

Thanks

jay

peltz power


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[RE-wrenches] Outback programing question

[jay]

HI All,

I’ve got a problem that outback tech hasn’t been able to figure out.

off grid system
mate 3
quad stacked VFX 3648

The generator is set to specific start/stop daily timer.  This works fine.

The client has plenty of solar for the day, and when he runs his generator he 
doesn’t want the chargers to operate.
OK so just hit charge off, and yes the chargers will turn off.

But next day, genny starts up, and the chargers come back on as well.

Outback says that shouldn’t be happening, but it is.

Anybody have this issue or know of a fix?

Thanks

jay

peltz power


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