Re: [RE-wrenches] suggested scary language
and is widely available Widely available from where? I have looked off and on and never found any premade signs. Is there a shelf full of these somewhere? Cause it sure isn't here! Bob -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Dan Fink Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 1:34 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] suggested scary language Marco -- I train fire departments around the country in PV safety, and I also train PV installers in how to train their local fire departments. As a firefighter myself, the signage I like to see (and should meet NEC code, and is widely available) is: DC Disconnect Warning: Electric Shock Hazard DO NOT TOUCH TERMINALS Terminals on both Line and Load sides may be energized in open position DC VOLTAGE IS ALWAYS PRESENT WHEN SOLAR MODULES ARE EXPOSED TO SUNLIGHT I do NOT like to see the word photovoltaic in signage-- unless firefighters have been trained, they often don't know what the word means. Photo-WHAT? DAN FINK Buckville Energy Consulting LLC Marco Mangelsdorf wrote: For a high voltage DC junction box? As in touch these wires and die or something similar? Thanks, marco ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] suggested scary language
We get custom plaques made up for each job through our local electrical distributor, Summit Electric in Santa Fe. Phenolic, red with white engraved letters, exterior 3M peel-n-stick, delivered in two days. If you can't find the same where you are, try 505 438-8400, ask for Edward.
Re: [RE-wrenches] suggested scary language
Tyco Electronics has a selection of Solar Identification Labels, including just the scary language you're looking for http://www.tycoelectronics.com/catalog/minf/en/756 Click the Global Stocking Distributor link on the lefthand side of the page for distributors. The 4-page catalog is here: http://www.tycoelectronics.com/aboutus/news/getpdf.asp?id=1363f=solar_label s_flyer_final.pdf Pray for Sun! Matt Lafferty DC Disconnect Warning: Electric Shock Hazard DO NOT TOUCH TERMINALS Terminals on both Line and Load sides may be energized in open position DC VOLTAGE IS ALWAYS PRESENT WHEN SOLAR MODULES ARE EXPOSED TO SUNLIGHT ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] suggested scary language
All Wrenches -- I am *very* glad to see this being discussed here. Detailed signage ranks as the #1 request I hear when I train fire departments in PV safety. And put signage OUTSIDE the house, too, where the grid meets the house, which explains what's in the basement and on the roof. With the low price, quick turnaround and on-line design possibilities of engraved placards these days, it doesn't cost much to put an entire power system map on a placard, showing all disconnects and what each breaker does. DAN FINK Buckville Energy Consulting LLC Allan Sindelar wrote: We get custom plaques made up for each job through our local electrical distributor, Summit Electric in Santa Fe. Phenolic, red with white engraved letters, exterior 3M peel-n-stick, delivered in two days. If you can't find the same where you are, try 505 438-8400, ask for Edward. *Allan** Sindelar* ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] suggested scary language
We use PlaqueMaker.com - text can change between plaques and you still get a quantity discount as long as the size is the same (which is nice for a batch of 690.53 plaques), reordering is easy. Phil Schneider Creative Energies On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Dan Fink dan...@hughes.net wrote: All Wrenches -- I am *very* glad to see this being discussed here. Detailed signage ranks as the #1 request I hear when I train fire departments in PV safety. And put signage OUTSIDE the house, too, where the grid meets the house, which explains what's in the basement and on the roof. With the low price, quick turnaround and on-line design possibilities of engraved placards these days, it doesn't cost much to put an entire power system map on a placard, showing all disconnects and what each breaker does. DAN FINK Buckville Energy Consulting LLC Allan Sindelar wrote: We get custom plaques made up for each job through our local electrical distributor, Summit Electric in Santa Fe. Phenolic, red with white engraved letters, exterior 3M peel-n-stick, delivered in two days. If you can't find the same where you are, try 505 438-8400, ask for Edward. *Allan** Sindelar* ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] suggested scary language
Label-wright.com advertises in Home Power and SolarPro for PV labels. I have samples from them, the labels seem good although I have never used them on any systems. Ryan -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of bob Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 3:16 AM To: 'Dan Fink'; 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] suggested scary language and is widely available Widely available from where? I have looked off and on and never found any premade signs. Is there a shelf full of these somewhere? Cause it sure isn't here! Bob ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] suggested scary language
Would any of you have a recommendation for labels for wind turbines, something not PV specific? Thanks, Roger Dixon Skylands Renewable Energy, LLC Certified Wind Site Assessor ASME/IACET Certified Rigging Instructor NJ CEP (Clean Energy Program) Approved Wind Turbine Installer NYSERDA Approved Wind Turbine Installer Distributor Installer of Solar Wind Energy Systems 908.337.2057 cell 908.730.6474 fax roger.di...@skylandsre.com www.skylandsre.com Note: The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). It is the property of the sender of this e-mail. If you receive this e-mail in error, do not review, disseminate, or copy it. Unauthorized use, disclosure, or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and destroy this communication and all copies thereof, including all attachments. -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Mayfield Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 1:16 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] suggested scary language Label-wright.com advertises in Home Power and SolarPro for PV labels. I have samples from them, the labels seem good although I have never used them on any systems. Ryan -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of bob Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 3:16 AM To: 'Dan Fink'; 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] suggested scary language and is widely available Widely available from where? I have looked off and on and never found any premade signs. Is there a shelf full of these somewhere? Cause it sure isn't here! Bob ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2853 - Release Date: 05/04/10 02:27:00 ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] suggested scary language
Roger; We use, on the 3-phase wind turbine output lines distal of rectifiers and proximal to wind turbine: WIND TURBINE SHUT DOWN SWITCH Danger: 3-phase AC voltage present when wind turbine is spinning RUN STOP (note these are reversed from what the disco box labels say) And then on the wind turbine input breaker, between rectifiers and battery bank: WIND TURBINE DISCONNECT Shut down wind turbine before opening this breaker Alternately, for problem customers: WIND TURBINE AND BALANCE OF SYSTEM SELF DESTRUCT SWITCH Danger: DC voltage present when wind turbine is spinning Shut down wind turbine before opening this breaker DAN FINK Buckville Energy Consulting LLC roger dixon wrote: Would any of you have a recommendation for labels for wind turbines, something not PV specific? Thanks, Roger Dixon ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] suggested scary language
For a high voltage DC junction box? As in touch these wires and die or something similar? Thanks, marco provision_highres_solar_logo2 with C-26351 Marco Mangelsdorf, President 69 Railroad Avenue, A-7 Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 (808) 969-3281, 934-7462 facsimile http://www.provisiontechnologies.com www.provision-solar.com image001.jpg___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] suggested scary language
Marco -- I train fire departments around the country in PV safety, and I also train PV installers in how to train their local fire departments. As a firefighter myself, the signage I like to see (and should meet NEC code, and is widely available) is: DC Disconnect Warning: Electric Shock Hazard DO NOT TOUCH TERMINALS Terminals on both Line and Load sides may be energized in open position DC VOLTAGE IS ALWAYS PRESENT WHEN SOLAR MODULES ARE EXPOSED TO SUNLIGHT I do NOT like to see the word photovoltaic in signage-- unless firefighters have been trained, they often don't know what the word means. Photo-WHAT? DAN FINK Buckville Energy Consulting LLC Marco Mangelsdorf wrote: For a high voltage DC junction box? As in “touch these wires and die” or something similar? Thanks, marco ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
