Re: [realXtend] realxtend.org server is down.

2012-05-23 Thread Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila
Jani is back, but he does not have the server admin access. I thought he
did.

Maybe Jani can still check what might be wrong in the DNS records, if this
is not the server based issue at all.

- j

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Jonne Nauha  wrote:

> I guess Tommi was right then in suspecting its the DNS :) That is where
> realxtend.org should redirect afaik, and if its up...
>
> I heard from Jarkko that Jani will be around tomorrow, hopefully he can
> sort it out asap.
>
> Best regards,
> Jonne Nauha
> Adminotech developer
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Antti Ilomäki wrote:
>
>> Also note that http://realxtend.wordpress.com/ still works.
>>
>> 2012/5/20  :
>> > The web server http://www.realxtend.org/ seems to be down. We are
>> aware of
>> > the situation and are trying to contact the relevant web admin people to
>> > investigate the issue.
>> >
>> > (realXtend itself did not disappear anywhere ;)
>> >
>> >   Jukka
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend
>> > http://www.realxtend.org
>>
>> --
>> http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend
>> http://www.realxtend.org
>>
>
>  --
> http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend
> http://www.realxtend.org
>

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Re: [realXtend] realxtend.org server is down.

2012-05-23 Thread Toni Alatalo
On May 23, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila wrote:
> Jani is back, but he does not have the server admin access. I thought he did.
> Maybe Jani can still check what might be wrong in the DNS records, if this is 
> not the server based issue at all.

I have an account to the server, and Tommi does too,  but it doesn't respond. I 
think it is just crashed / stalled. DNS returns this for me and it looks 
correct (as in seems familiar, I think it used to be online with that ip: 
109.204.228.11)

So does not seem like a DNS issue to me. Otherwise I've no way access that box, 
that has been behind Tommi somehow and is perhaps the same folks and place (and 
even machine?-) where you have the chiru servers? (Nokia Tampere)

> - j

~Toni

> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Jonne Nauha  wrote:
> I guess Tommi was right then in suspecting its the DNS :) That is where 
> realxtend.org should redirect afaik, and if its up...
> 
> I heard from Jarkko that Jani will be around tomorrow, hopefully he can sort 
> it out asap.
> 
> Best regards,
> Jonne Nauha
> Adminotech developer
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Antti Ilomäki  
> wrote:
> Also note that http://realxtend.wordpress.com/ still works.
> 
> 2012/5/20  :
> > The web server http://www.realxtend.org/ seems to be down. We are aware of
> > the situation and are trying to contact the relevant web admin people to
> > investigate the issue.
> >
> > (realXtend itself did not disappear anywhere ;)
> >
> >   Jukka
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend
> > http://www.realxtend.org
> 
> --
> http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend
> http://www.realxtend.org
> 
> 
> -- 
> http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend
> http://www.realxtend.org
> 
> 
> -- 
> http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend
> http://www.realxtend.org

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[realXtend] New Adminotech Tundra release is out with some exiting features

2012-05-23 Thread Jonne Nauha
*Whats up?*
*
*
After the Virtual Gallery Weekend Berlin event was over, we got back to
Tundra client experience and our server hosting service development. We've
done some exiting things, so I figured to post something about them.

Our Tundra hosting has been developed now for a long time. One big problem
for me was that it was really hard to find Tundra worlds even if they
existed somewhere on the web. Our initial logins to Tundra scenes was
always done via a "web portal" like we like to call them. A good example
for this is http://login.realxtend.org/ that we host for the realXtend
foundation to have some demo and sandbox scenes. The problem with this is
that the end users needs to know the URL to that login portal or they will
never end up there, sure we advertised that login portal on the mailing
lists here every now and then, but its still too hard. Additionally the
flow to visit a world is not very good when you first have to authenticate
yourself to a web page, then your main application start. Why cant the
client do this?

Well now it can. We have made a new client user interface/experience from
scratch. This login portal inside Tundra is only shipped in Adminotech
client releases. You need to keep in mind everything we do with Tundra is
open sourced via pull requests and the main Tundra benefits from virtually
everything we do with Tundra. Good example of this is the rewritten
MumblePlugin that we made, that finally got us working fully open source
VOIP to Tundra. My point here is, the login UI we have made
to accommodate simpler access to Adminotech hosted Tundra servers is not
something that belongs to the core. Not in my or any other devs opinion.
Adminotech hosted servers have nothing to do with the core Tundra, we just
ship a different looking login UI than the "classic" write your IP:PORT and
username here :)

*Get started*
*
*
http://tundra-adminotech.s3.amazonaws.com/post-images/admino-tundra-auth.png.

*
*
Enough of that for now then, lets get to the features. When you install and
run Adminotech Tundra (version where this feature ships is 2.3.2.6 to be
exact) you will land to a authentication page. Here you authenticate
yourself with facebook (more 3rd party auths coming, like gmail) or with a
Adminotech account. If you are skeptic about giving facebook auth, as I
know some are, you can create a new adminotech account from the same UI.
There is nothing to be scared about the facebook authentication though, we
only request your email and your public profile picture (that is always
public, even on your web profile). Facebook password is never given to us
(of course right? :), it uses OAuth and takes a small trip on facebook own
login page to verify who you are. Once you are logged in you will be
remembered for as long as you click the "logout" link below your profile
picture or if you auth to any web login portals, your Tundra login will be
expired and you need to relogin.

*Selecting a Tundra scene and login*
*
*
http://tundra-adminotech.s3.amazonaws.com/post-images/admino-tundra-login-lobby.png

Next you will land to a view that will show you all the public servers in
our hosting. Public means the client is ok with giving public visibility
and login access to their scene. Currently there are 9 public scenes, but
as you can see from the bottom right corner stats we have about 60 scenes
hosted total, so we expect the public visibility to grow in the future. The
top part of the view is reserved for promoted servers. Currently Ludocraft
Circus, rex/ensad RMP and Virtual Gallery Weekend Berlin are shown there to
give people the idea. Basically its a nice place to highlight new scene or
ongoing virtual events. The promotions and the servers listings are of
course always fetched live from our backend, no client releases needed for
updates :)

http://tundra-adminotech.s3.amazonaws.com/post-images/admino-tundra-server-info.png

Clicking a promotion image or server in the grid view will take you to a
focus view. If the server is promoted it will show custom graphics that
will tell you more about the scene or anything the client wants to relay to
the user. If the server is not promoted it will show a screen shot of the
last time you visited the scene, meaning the image area will be blank if
you haven't visited that world yet. This view gives you the login option or
you can go back to the main view. The grid view of the servers also shows
you what worlds currently have other avatars, the ones with users are
always sorted first in the list.

http://tundra-adminotech.s3.amazonaws.com/post-images/admino-tundra-filter-resizing.png

The UI will adapt to any sized screens as you can see on this screenshot.
It also has filtering feature with auto suggestions if you cant remember
something exactly. This search also works for avatar usernames that are
inworld, so you can quickly find the server your friend is in. Granted this
filter is not very useful when you only have 9 scenes in the grid view, but
for exa

[realXtend] Re: New Adminotech Tundra release is out with some exiting features

2012-05-23 Thread Jonne Nauha
Few things that forgot to mention

   - The release also has latest realXtend Tundra repository code. Which
   means months worth of features and bug fixes. I'm expecting rex to make
   their next release this/next week, depends when Jukka has time for it of
   course.
   - You can still do manua login (host+username) with the other client
   UIs. I made shortcuts to the installation for easy access: Start menu ->
   Adminotech Tundra -> Extras -> Tundra Browser Client and Tundra Classic
   Client. I will also make this available to our next release into the
   fancies UI :)
   - Screenshots don't do justice to the UI (subtle transition animations
   etc.), try it out!

Best regards,
Jonne Nauha
Adminotech developer


On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:54 AM, Jonne Nauha  wrote:

> *Whats up?*
> *
> *
> After the Virtual Gallery Weekend Berlin event was over, we got back to
> Tundra client experience and our server hosting service development. We've
> done some exiting things, so I figured to post something about them.
>
> Our Tundra hosting has been developed now for a long time. One big problem
> for me was that it was really hard to find Tundra worlds even if they
> existed somewhere on the web. Our initial logins to Tundra scenes was
> always done via a "web portal" like we like to call them. A good example
> for this is http://login.realxtend.org/ that we host for the realXtend
> foundation to have some demo and sandbox scenes. The problem with this is
> that the end users needs to know the URL to that login portal or they will
> never end up there, sure we advertised that login portal on the mailing
> lists here every now and then, but its still too hard. Additionally the
> flow to visit a world is not very good when you first have to authenticate
> yourself to a web page, then your main application start. Why cant the
> client do this?
>
> Well now it can. We have made a new client user interface/experience from
> scratch. This login portal inside Tundra is only shipped in Adminotech
> client releases. You need to keep in mind everything we do with Tundra is
> open sourced via pull requests and the main Tundra benefits from virtually
> everything we do with Tundra. Good example of this is the rewritten
> MumblePlugin that we made, that finally got us working fully open source
> VOIP to Tundra. My point here is, the login UI we have made
> to accommodate simpler access to Adminotech hosted Tundra servers is not
> something that belongs to the core. Not in my or any other devs opinion.
> Adminotech hosted servers have nothing to do with the core Tundra, we just
> ship a different looking login UI than the "classic" write your IP:PORT and
> username here :)
>
> *Get started*
> *
> *
>
> http://tundra-adminotech.s3.amazonaws.com/post-images/admino-tundra-auth.png.
>
> *
> *
> Enough of that for now then, lets get to the features. When you install
> and run Adminotech Tundra (version where this feature ships is 2.3.2.6 to
> be exact) you will land to a authentication page. Here you authenticate
> yourself with facebook (more 3rd party auths coming, like gmail) or with a
> Adminotech account. If you are skeptic about giving facebook auth, as I
> know some are, you can create a new adminotech account from the same UI.
> There is nothing to be scared about the facebook authentication though, we
> only request your email and your public profile picture (that is always
> public, even on your web profile). Facebook password is never given to us
> (of course right? :), it uses OAuth and takes a small trip on facebook own
> login page to verify who you are. Once you are logged in you will be
> remembered for as long as you click the "logout" link below your profile
> picture or if you auth to any web login portals, your Tundra login will be
> expired and you need to relogin.
>
> *Selecting a Tundra scene and login*
> *
> *
>
> http://tundra-adminotech.s3.amazonaws.com/post-images/admino-tundra-login-lobby.png
>
> Next you will land to a view that will show you all the public servers in
> our hosting. Public means the client is ok with giving public visibility
> and login access to their scene. Currently there are 9 public scenes, but
> as you can see from the bottom right corner stats we have about 60 scenes
> hosted total, so we expect the public visibility to grow in the future. The
> top part of the view is reserved for promoted servers. Currently Ludocraft
> Circus, rex/ensad RMP and Virtual Gallery Weekend Berlin are shown there to
> give people the idea. Basically its a nice place to highlight new scene or
> ongoing virtual events. The promotions and the servers listings are of
> course always fetched live from our backend, no client releases needed for
> updates :)
>
>
> http://tundra-adminotech.s3.amazonaws.com/post-images/admino-tundra-server-info.png
>
> Clicking a promotion image or server in the grid view will take you to a
> focus view. If the server is promoted it will show custom graphics that
> will tell

Re: [realXtend] realxtend.org server is down.

2012-05-23 Thread Toni Alatalo
On Wed, 2012-05-23 at 13:45 +0300, Toni Alatalo wrote:
> > Maybe Jani can still check what might be wrong in the DNS records,
> > if this is not the server based issue at all.

Now I think I know what Tommi meant with Jani & DNS confs: simply change
realxtend.org to point to the wordpress blog, perhaps by making
wordpress.com itself host the domain or whatever.

To just forget the old box that we don't have direct access to and which
is unreliable now.

The current realxtend.org server doesn't have any critical data -- most
important thing it serves now is the Tundra API docs (doxygen), but that
is just autogenerated from a Tundra git clone and we can set it up to
some new place. Also there is a SVN checkout of Chesapeake Bay and other
scenes for having them on the web, but again no original data but just
checkouts.

Jani registered the domain originally and has hence supposedly has the
account etc. info needed to configure it. Right?

> ~Toni

same.


> > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Jonne Nauha 
> > wrote:
> > I guess Tommi was right then in suspecting its the DNS :)
> > That is where realxtend.org should redirect afaik, and if
> > its up...
> > 
> > 
> > I heard from Jarkko that Jani will be around tomorrow,
> > hopefully he can sort it out asap.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Jonne Nauha
> > Adminotech developer
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Antti Ilomäki
> >  wrote:
> > Also note that http://realxtend.wordpress.com/ still
> > works.
> > 
> > 2012/5/20  :
> > > The web server http://www.realxtend.org/ seems to
> > be down. We are aware of
> > > the situation and are trying to contact the
> > relevant web admin people to
> > > investigate the issue.
> > >
> > > (realXtend itself did not disappear anywhere ;)
> > >
> > >   Jukka
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend
> > > http://www.realxtend.org
> > 
> > --
> > http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend
> > http://www.realxtend.org
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend
> > http://www.realxtend.org
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

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