[REBOL] Re: REBOL [REBOL.org] Packages announcement and competition

2004-02-20 Thread Ingo Hohmann

Hi Sunanda,

it works here REBOL/View 1.2.8.4.2 3-Aug-2002 (on Debian/Gnu Linux).
The UI could do with a bit of a cleanup, as already mentioned, though ;^)


Kind regards,

Ingo

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[REBOL] 'upgrade' not working correctly.

2004-02-20 Thread gregb

Hello,
I installed rebol/view the other day, then replaced
the rebol.exe file with the beta version I downloaded. 
It doesn't seem to be working correctly. For one thing, 
here's what happens when I double-click the Rebol icon 
on my Windows XP home machine, then type in 'upgrade':

REBOL/View 1.2.10.3.1 30-May-2003
Copyright 2000-2002 REBOL Technologies.  All rights reserved.
REBOL is a trademark of REBOL Technologies. WWW.REBOL.COM

Type DESKTOP or SET-USER for settings.

REBOL Mezzanine Extensions 1.1.2.1 29-Nov-2002/19:29:09
Windows Registry Access 1.1.2.4 11-Dec-2002/0:36:56
REBOL Internet Protocols 1.59.2.15 14-Feb-2003/1:45:14
Dynamic Library Access 1.4.2.1 24-Mar-2002/20:13:53
Command Shell Access 1.5.2.5 11-Dec-2002/0:37:05
Graphics 1.1.2.4 11-Dec-2002/0:36:39
View and VID 1.155.2.5 10-Dec-2002/23:30:53
View Desktop 1.26.2.9 18-Jan-2003/1:16:28
Sound 1.2.2.2 24-Mar-2002/20:13:58
Encryption 1.3.2.2 24-Mar-2002/20:13:52
Big Numbers 1.2.2.2 24-Mar-2002/20:13:52
DH/DSA Encryption 1.2.2.2 24-Mar-2002/20:13:52
RSA Encryption 1.3.2.2 24-Mar-2002/20:13:58
System Port 1.1.2.5 30-Nov-2002/17:24:03
Licensing 1.8.2.5 30-Nov-2002/19:58:53

*** REBOL/View license only. No REBOL/View/Pro features.
*** Obtain REBOL/View/Pro from http://www.rebol.com
 upgrade
connecting to: www.rebol.com
connecting to: www.rebol.com
Script: Download Current Version (10-May-2001/20:12:53-7:00)
You are running an unknown version of REBOL.


This is what I get on my Sun Ultrasparc II machine running
Solaris 8:

REBOL/Core 2.5.6.10.1
Copyright 1997-2003 REBOL Technologies
REBOL is a Trademark of REBOL Technologies
All rights reserved.

Component: REBOL Mezzanine Extensions 1.1.2.1 (30-Nov-2002/13:47:03)
Component: REBOL Internet Protocols 1.59.2.15 (31-Jul-2003/4:28:06)
Finger protocol loaded
Whois protocol loaded
Daytime protocol loaded
SMTP protocol loaded
POP protocol loaded
IMAP protocol loaded
HTTP protocol loaded
FTP protocol loaded
NNTP protocol loaded
Component: System Port 1.1.2.5 (1-Aug-2003/8:23:17)
 upgrade
connecting to: www.rebol.com
connecting to: www.rebol.com
Script: Download Current Version (10-May-2001/20:12:53-7:00)
Your copy of Solaris Sparc REBOL/core 2.5.6.10.1 is currently up-to-date.
 

I realize I'm running rebol/core on the sparc and rebol/view on the PC,
but I expected both to come back with a currently up-to-date message.

Is this a bug on the PC?

Thanks,
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[REBOL] Re: [ANN] RebDB v1.1

2004-02-20 Thread Petr Krenzelok

Ashley Trüter napsal(a):

Latest release includes:

* memo! support
* Client / Server
* SQL dialect
* RebDB*Lite variant (uses save/load with REBOL native values)
* SQL*Plus like command-line (uncomment last line of db.r / db-lite.r)

Release notes and source available at http://www.dobeash.com/RebDB/

  

my friend looked for small DB, your solutions would be good for him, but 
the app is supposed to run on old notebook with only 16MB RAM. Is there 
really no way of how to get damned open/skip-or-whatever-would-help to 
work? Currently, in rebol, being able to only work with in-memory 
storage is starting to be pretty painfull, I meet ppl here or there who 
don't want to install full mySQL server and would be fine with some kind 
of small rebol db, if that would not be memory based.

-pekr-

Regards,

   Ashley
  


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[REBOL] Re: I want time!, not string!

2004-02-20 Thread Hallvard Ystad

Dixit iNetW3 (05.06 20.02.2004):
Hi Hallvard,
look at  HELP JOIN
whatever type? the first value is (the Base value),
the second argument (the rest) will adopt it's type?.
  in your case *print join Took * is a string
so, *s* will allways be a string.  it's not a bug.

Hi iNetW3,
True, the 'join behaviour is not a bug, but my initial problem was that 's became a 
string _before_ 'join could ever be evaluated. Now/time - s crashed. Turned out to be 
the mysql protocol that used the global word 's. Problem is fixed (cf. earlier on in 
this email thread). Thanks for your help anyway.
HY

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[REBOL] REBOL [REBOL.org] Packages announcement and competition

2004-02-20 Thread Graham Chiu
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote.. apparently on 19-Feb-2004/16:27:30


There is one test package up on the Library. If you've got the time, could 
you please download it, see if it runs, and let me know what goes wrong.

I tried changing the directory and realised I couldn't select a directory, so 
cancelled, and none appeared.  I tried typing in a directory but that didn't work 
and I couldn't see a way to activate the download.  Quit and tried again accepting the 
defaults, and this time it worked.


As a tiny encouragement to you to do this, the demo package is a guess the 
REBOL developer competition

Okay, that fedex carton there is clearly a red herring since Joel Neely is not one of 
the developers!

Has the download process introduced lots of jpg artifacting??  :)

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[REBOL] Re: [ANN] RebDB v1.1

2004-02-20 Thread Graham Chiu
Petr Krenzelok  wrote.. apparently on 20-Feb-2004/9:10:58+1:00

my friend looked for small DB, your solutions would be good for him, but 
the app is supposed to run on old notebook with only 16MB RAM. Is there 

try dbase ...

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[REBOL] Re: (No In-reply-to: 4034EDEA.3050708@webz.dk

2004-02-20 Thread Carl Read

On 20-Feb-04, Henrik Mikael Kristensen wrote:

 Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch wrote:
 is there anyone working on docs as the features are added/refined?

 There is a new document on the image! datatype, because it has
 changed completely in behavior.

 http://www.rebol.net/projects/view1.3/image.html

 Also a new View manual has been proposed in the same format as the 
 current HTML based Core manual.

 TOC mockup can be seen here:

 http://www.rebol.net/projects/view1.3/rebolview.html

Will HELP at the console be updated to cover VID?  I couldn't find any
mention of it here...

http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/projects/track.r

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[REBOL] Re: [ANN] RebDB v1.1

2004-02-20 Thread Petr Krenzelok

Graham Chiu napsal(a):

Petr Krenzelok  wrote.. apparently on 20-Feb-2004/9:10:58+1:00

  

my friend looked for small DB, your solutions would be good for him, but 
the app is supposed to run on old notebook with only 16MB RAM. Is there 



try dbase ...

  

do you mean Konstantin's dybase? It requires library component IIRC. But 
that is not a much of a problem. I also remember Jeff producing link to 
... was it BerkeleyDB? The problem as I see it is - the set-up and 
deployment cost. E.g. mySQL maybe overhead, but it accepts SQL syntax, 
so switching to another DB may not influence your scripts so much, even 
if there will surely be some work required.

I think that Rebol badly misses its small, native db format, which would 
become standard for those, who don't want/can't use in-memory storage 
and IOS-like one-record-per file storage is either not an option. I 
think RebDB could be the answer, if open/skip would be fixed, but that 
is another story. In the time being, I would stick with standard - 
mySQL and would not support proprietary aproach/syntax, unless thinking 
of such solution as being standard and long-term ...

PS: I have nothing against existance of various options, though ...

-pekr-

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[REBOL] Re: (No In-reply-to: 4034EDEA.3050708@webz.dk

2004-02-20 Thread Carl Read

Odd - my mailer stripped the subject I was replying to, which was...

Re: [Time frame for REBOL/VIEW 1.3]

Carl Read.

On 20-Feb-04, Carl Read wrote:

 On 20-Feb-04, Henrik Mikael Kristensen wrote:

 Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch wrote:
 is there anyone working on docs as the features are added/refined?

 There is a new document on the image! datatype, because it has
 changed completely in behavior.

 http://www.rebol.net/projects/view1.3/image.html

 Also a new View manual has been proposed in the same format as the 
 current HTML based Core manual.

 TOC mockup can be seen here:

 http://www.rebol.net/projects/view1.3/rebolview.html

 Will HELP at the console be updated to cover VID? I couldn't find
 any mention of it here...

 http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/projects/track.r

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[REBOL] Re: [ANN] RebDB v1.1

2004-02-20 Thread Graham Chiu
Petr Krenzelok  wrote.. apparently on 20-Feb-2004/10:33:08+1:00

try dbase ...

  

do you mean Konstantin's dybase? It requires library component IIRC. But 

no, I meant dbase, or any other odbc available connection

http://www.rebolfrance.net/articles/odbcsockserv/odbcsockserv.html

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[REBOL] Re: [Time frame for REBOL/VIEW 1.3]

2004-02-20 Thread Henrik Mikael Kristensen

Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch wrote:
 who is doing the docs, has anyone really taken charge or is everyone expecting Carl 
 S. to do it?
 (just asking, no sarcasm intended!)

Carl made the original proposal and I think he wrote all the docs too. I 
can't find anything in the bug tracker about other people writing docs.

Being mostly a spectator on the Rebol View 1.3 project discussion, I 
think Carl wants 1.3 out first, then docs after that, but I can't be sure.

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[REBOL] Re: REBOL [REBOL.org] Packages announcement and competition

2004-02-20 Thread SunandaDH

Thanks for all the comments everyone. It's been very helpful. Apologies for 
not replying to them all individually.

Apologies also for the problems with the downloader
--It's written to work with View 1.2.1 specifically so it wouldn't use any 
esoteric words. But that version (or later) obviously isn't as universal as I'd 
thought. I'll go back one more version and try again.
--I've fixed a few of the bugs (typos, and assuming browse was available)

Thanks too for all the comments on the UI. I'll have a go at making some 
changes over the weekend.


Graham:
 Has the download process introduced lots of jpg artifacting??  :)

I hope not! Image7 and image8 are fairly poor in that way in the original. 
The others should be reasonable. Let me know if they aren't.

Rod:
Sorry, can't play on my platform...
You should still be able to enter the competition view the 8 images and read 
the notes.txt file. And it's not too late, because:

The competition is still open! No winner yet.


Here's a summary of the entries so far:

Ammon:
  Image1.jpg is Andrew
  Image4.jpg is Volker
  image7.jpg is Gregg
  image5.jpg is Sunanda

Pretty good!

Three exactly right! One wrong.

Ashley:
 Image1.jpg is Sunanda
 Image2.jpg is Andrew
 image5.jpg is Gregg
 image7.jpg is Volker

Not bad -- you picked four people with strong IT skills. But only two of them 
are REBOL developers. And you didn't match the images to the names.

Ammon:
 change Sunanda to
 image2.jpg...

You mean?
  Image1.jpg is Andrew
  Image4.jpg is Volker
  image7.jpg is Gregg
  image2.jpg is Sunanda
Sorry! That's two exactly right, and two wrong.

Brett:
 As for the competition - Gregg = Image6
We need all four for the big prize.

I think there must be enough clues there for someone to crack it.

Thanks again everyone,
Sunanda.
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[REBOL] Email Headers ?

2004-02-20 Thread Peter WA Wood
I'm just starting to learn Rebol and would appreciate some advice on 
where to look in the documentation to see how to get hold of email 
message headers without downloading the message first. As I understand 
it, import-email needs the message to be downloaded first.

Peter 

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[REBOL] Re: REBOL [REBOL.org] Packages announcement and competition

2004-02-20 Thread Brett Handley

 Brett:
  As for the competition - Gregg = Image6
 We need all four for the big prize.

Damn, I quoted it but didn't make it explicit that I was modifying Ammon's
response.

So here it is again - just in case I get to fix my entry

image1.jpg - Andrew
image4.jpg - Volker
image5.jpg - Sunanda
image6.jpg - Gregg

And in case that was right.

image2 - Peter
image3 - John Slattery
image7 - Trebor
image8 - Sir David Ramsbotham

Regards,
Brett.

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[REBOL] Re: (No In-reply-to: 4034EDEA.3050708@webz.dk

2004-02-20 Thread Henrik Mikael Kristensen

Carl Read wrote:
 Will HELP at the console be updated to cover VID?  I couldn't find any
 mention of it here...
 
 http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/projects/track.r

Bug 334 talks about embedding help objects (auto-docs) into VID. This is 
apparently semi-implemented and does not work fully yet.

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[REBOL] Re: Email Headers ?

2004-02-20 Thread Didec
Re: Email Headers ?
Hi Peter,

Unfortunately, you will not find this in the doc, as Rebol standard POP protocol 
doesn't handle reading part of a message.

But here is a simple code than show you how to do it by yourself.


;--- Will receive the header objects
emails: copy []

;--- open your mailbox
mb: open pop://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

;--- point on [message-num size-of-message] pairs
sizes: mb/locals/sizes

;--- for each message-num and size
foreach [mesg-num size] sizes [
;--- Here we insert manually the command not handled by the standard 
pop:// protocol
; First send the request
insert mb/sub-port rejoin [TOP  pick mb/locals/msg-nums 
mb/state/index + mesg-num  0]
; second, wait for the correct answer
net-utils/confirm mb/sub-port [ none +OK ]
; then pick in the answer received the message header without the 
content
headers: mb/handler/read-til-dot mb make string! 1024
;--- Append to the msg block the email object obtained from the string 
header form
append emails import-email headers
]

;--- The result
probe emails



Hope it helps

DideC

 I'm just starting to learn Rebol and would appreciate some advice on 
 where to look in the documentation to see how to get hold of email 
 message headers without downloading the message first. As I understand 
 it, import-email needs the message to be downloaded first.
 
 Peter 
 
 

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[REBOL] Re: REBOL [REBOL.org] Packages announcement and competition

2004-02-20 Thread SunandaDH

Hi DideC:

 image1 : Andrew (for sure)
  image6 : Volker
  image4 : Gregg
  image5 :  Sunanda

Close!
Congratulations, you've correctly spotted all four REBOL developers.

But two names match, and two don't.

Hi Brett:

Congratulations! 100% right!!  Email me an address and your prize will be on 
its way.

I've updated the package to change the text. If anyone wants to try to 
download it again to the same folder, it should just retrieve the notes.txt file. 
Please let me know if it doesn't.


Thanks again everyone,
Sunanda.
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[REBOL] Re: REBOL [REBOL.org] Packages announcement and competition

2004-02-20 Thread Brett Handley

 Congratulations! 100% right!!  Email me an address and your prize will be
on
 its way.

Whooohooo!  Thanks to Ammon who nutted most of it out. And just a few more
words of thanks,  I'd just like to thank my wife, my mum, my dad, my
friends,  ahem

For the prize, while I would be most honored and gratified to receive such a
magnificent gift, I fear the international voyage this valuable item would
take could be perilous and so it would enough for me if you could find it an
alternative worthy home. Perhaps a local computing museum? :-)

 I've updated the package to change the text. If anyone wants to try to
 download it again to the same folder, it should just retrieve the
notes.txt file.
 Please let me know if it doesn't.

Listed and downloaded the one item successfully.

Regards,
Brett.


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[REBOL] Re: REBOL [REBOL.org] Packages announcement and competition

2004-02-20 Thread Robert M. Münch

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:45:25 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 by package, you mean a named group of files?

 Mainly that,yes -- any application that needs more than one script to  
 work.

Hi, than why not name it: fileset like it is on IOS? I don't like  
word-fragmentation ;-) Robert
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[REBOL] Re: REBOL [REBOL.org] Packages announcement and competition

2004-02-20 Thread Gerard Cote

Hi Sunanda,

as you told the downloader did its job very well even under Core 2.3 and View 1.2.1 
running Win 98 while the demo ran only under
View.

Under Core no real file seems to be saved on disk but the downloader script worked 
since I got this screen indicating a try to exec
the DEMO :
 do/args http://www.rebol.org/library/public/lds-package-downloader.r  
 lds-demo1-package.r
connecting to: www.rebol.org
Script: Library data services: Download package files (16-Feb-2004)
** Script Error: view? has no value.
** Where: if view? [
lds-styles: stylize
[
info: info black 172.200.234 font-size 11
h1: text black 172.200.234 font-size 15
h2: text black 172.200.234 font-size 13
p: text black 172.200.234 font-size 13
notes: text-list black 100.200.200 font-size 13
hr: box 600x2 blue
]
]
lds-dp: make
 list-dir
rebol.exe  ropus.r

under View I got the ending message The package is fully downloaded and all files 
were downloaded into the current DIR as I tried
it first and then it was OK too when dumped into a second newly created folder.

The old Select File requester appeared (View 1.2.1) and I then asked myself how to 
create a new folder since no new button appeared
and I mustr admit I never found how-to (simply type the new name and SELECT it as for 
any other file to select just don't do the
job - with or without the trailing /)...

While the download was occuring, I also attempted to review the names of files that 
had to be downloaded but I could no more scroll
the list - can it be enhanced (unlocked) or is View freezing the displayed faces when 
it works downloading files?

The Online Help goes browsing the rebol.org web site and appropriately displays the 
needed HELP info.

Finally the DEMO script runs first class.

Great work guys !
Congratulations for all your contributive efforts ...
I really appreciate the resulting products set !!!

Regards,
Gerard

P.S. For the contest I must admit I would have not guessed right in 3 of 4 cases and 
even then I already saw Andrew's snapshot
before do if I want to play fair I got 0 of 4 cases ;-)


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[REBOL] REBOL rocks

2004-02-20 Thread Maarten Koopmans

today I did some preliminary tests on an async://  REBOL-based HTTP 
1.1 server that I'm writing
[ no. it's not in a decent shape yet, be patient. It will be free as in 
BSD-free, with XML-RPC on board and the possibility to run Reblets]

On a 2Ghz Dell desktop with Debian Linux, Rebol sent out an MPEG-2 (DVD) 
at 6 mbit/sec with 0.3-0.9% CPU load.

Same here on WinXP.

Very very very impressive for an interpreter, hence the subject.

Gabriele's async:// (also very impressive) is at 
http://www.rebol.it/giesse/async-protocol.r

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(who is still impressed by REBOL after 5 years)



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[REBOL] Re: REBOL rocks

2004-02-20 Thread Jason Cunliffe

 today I did some preliminary tests on an async://  REBOL-based HTTP 
 1.1 server that I'm writing
 [ no. it's not in a decent shape yet, be patient. It will be free as in 
 BSD-free, with XML-RPC on board and the possibility to run Reblets]

This is wonderful news! 
Thank you.
 
 On a 2Ghz Dell desktop with Debian Linux, Rebol sent out an MPEG-2 (DVD) 
 at 6 mbit/sec with 0.3-0.9% CPU load.
 
 Same here on WinXP.

wow - That is great :-)
Any idea when this server might be read  for general testing/use ?

good luck  thanks again
- Jason
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[REBOL] Re: REBOL rocks

2004-02-20 Thread Maarten Koopmans


wow - That is great :-)
Any idea when this server might be read  for general testing/use ?

  

I hope within 1-2 weeks. I want it to be RFC 2616 compliant and 
embeddable in your apps, so that takes time.

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[REBOL] Re: REBOL [REBOL.org] Packages announcement and competition

2004-02-20 Thread iNetW3
Hi Sunanda,

Thanks very much for the service.

Plarform: WIN95/98
Does'nt run under Rebol/core 2.5.0.3.1
Runs' under Rebol/view 1.1.0.3.1


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[REBOL] Re: Email Headers ?

2004-02-20 Thread Peter WA Wood

Hi DideC

Your example not only answer my questions it will also help my learning 
Rebol. Thank you very much.

Regards

Peter

On Friday, Feb 20, 2004, at 20:32 Asia/Kuala_Lumpur, Didec wrote:

 Re: Email Headers ?
 Hi Peter,

 Unfortunately, you will not find this in the doc, as Rebol standard 
 POP protocol doesn't handle reading part of a message.

 But here is a simple code than show you how to do it by yourself.


   ;--- Will receive the header objects
   emails: copy []

   ;--- open your mailbox
   mb: open pop://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

   ;--- point on [message-num size-of-message] pairs
   sizes: mb/locals/sizes

   ;--- for each message-num and size
   foreach [mesg-num size] sizes [
   ;--- Here we insert manually the command not handled by the 
 standard pop:// protocol
   ; First send the request
   insert mb/sub-port rejoin [TOP  pick mb/locals/msg-nums 
 mb/state/index + mesg-num  0]
   ; second, wait for the correct answer
   net-utils/confirm mb/sub-port [ none +OK ]
   ; then pick in the answer received the message header without the 
 content
   headers: mb/handler/read-til-dot mb make string! 1024
   ;--- Append to the msg block the email object obtained from the 
 string header form
   append emails import-email headers
   ]
   
   ;--- The result
   probe emails



 Hope it helps

 DideC

 I'm just starting to learn Rebol and would appreciate some advice on
 where to look in the documentation to see how to get hold of email
 message headers without downloading the message first. As I understand
 it, import-email needs the message to be downloaded first.

 Peter



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[REBOL] Re: Email Headers ?

2004-02-20 Thread Cybarite
Maybe just using Didier's email filter would be a good start.


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[REBOL] Global Font settings

2004-02-20 Thread Paul Tretter
I was looking thru anamonitor trying to find where to change the font globally.  I 
would assume this is something trivial.  I tried setting the font on vid-face but no 
luck.  Any ideas?  I know I can use 'with to set the font but want the same font by 
default on all rendered faces.

Paul Tretter


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[REBOL] Re: Global Font settings

2004-02-20 Thread Ammon Johnson

Try something like...

Stylize/master [
text: text with [
font: make font [;desired settings go here
]
]
]

before you LAYOUT the faces...

HTH
~~Ammon ;~




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Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 7:15 PM
Subject: [REBOL] Global Font settings


 I was looking thru anamonitor trying to find where to change the font
globally.  I would assume this is something trivial.  I tried setting the
font on vid-face but no luck.  Any ideas?  I know I can use 'with to set the
font but want the same font by default on all rendered faces.

 Paul Tretter


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[REBOL] Re: Global Font settings

2004-02-20 Thread Paul Tretter

That doesn't seem to work globally.  I tried the following:

 Stylize/master [
[text: text with [
[font: make font [name: Verdana]
[
[]
[]
== [face
make object! [
type: 'face
offset: 0x0
size: none
span: none
pane: none
 ...
 view layout [backdrop forest a: banner Superfonttest]
 a/font/name
== arial


Maybe, I'm assuming to much to think there is something more global in this
case.

Paul

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From: Ammon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 8:41 PM
Subject: [REBOL] Re: Global Font settings



 Try something like...

 Stylize/master [
 text: text with [
 font: make font [;desired settings go here
 ]
 ]
 ]

 before you LAYOUT the faces...

 HTH
 ~~Ammon ;~




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 From: Paul Tretter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 7:15 PM
 Subject: [REBOL] Global Font settings


  I was looking thru anamonitor trying to find where to change the font
 globally.  I would assume this is something trivial.  I tried setting the
 font on vid-face but no luck.  Any ideas?  I know I can use 'with to set
the
 font but want the same font by default on all rendered faces.
 
  Paul Tretter
 
 
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[REBOL] Re: Global Font settings

2004-02-20 Thread Ammon Johnson

Ah, you want to the font that is used...  Well, I don't believe that there
is a built in way to do that, but this should do what you are looking for...

foreach [style face] rebol/view/vid/vid-styles [
face/font: make face/font [name: Verdana]
]

note though that it isn't going to change the font used in any faces that
have already been passed through LAYOUT...

HTH
~~Ammon ;~


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From: Paul Tretter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 8:08 PM
Subject: [REBOL] Re: Global Font settings



 That doesn't seem to work globally.  I tried the following:

  Stylize/master [
 [text: text with [
 [font: make font [name: Verdana]
 [
 []
 []
 == [face
 make object! [
 type: 'face
 offset: 0x0
 size: none
 span: none
 pane: none
  ...
  view layout [backdrop forest a: banner Superfonttest]
  a/font/name
 == arial
 

 Maybe, I'm assuming to much to think there is something more global in
this
 case.

 Paul

 - Original Message - 
 From: Ammon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 8:41 PM
 Subject: [REBOL] Re: Global Font settings


 
  Try something like...
 
  Stylize/master [
  text: text with [
  font: make font [;desired settings go here
  ]
  ]
  ]
 
  before you LAYOUT the faces...
 
  HTH
  ~~Ammon ;~
 
 
 
 
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  Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 7:15 PM
  Subject: [REBOL] Global Font settings
 
 
   I was looking thru anamonitor trying to find where to change the font
  globally.  I would assume this is something trivial.  I tried setting
the
  font on vid-face but no luck.  Any ideas?  I know I can use 'with to set
 the
  font but want the same font by default on all rendered faces.
  
   Paul Tretter
  
  
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[REBOL] Re: Global Font settings

2004-02-20 Thread Paul Tretter

Thats interesting - since the 1.3 project is underway, do you think we need
a global settings type of system for /view?  Where we can change the default
font, spacing, origin, etc...?

Paul Tretter

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From: Ammon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 9:50 PM
Subject: [REBOL] Re: Global Font settings



 Ah, you want to the font that is used...  Well, I don't believe that there
 is a built in way to do that, but this should do what you are looking
for...

 foreach [style face] rebol/view/vid/vid-styles [
 face/font: make face/font [name: Verdana]
 ]

 note though that it isn't going to change the font used in any faces that
 have already been passed through LAYOUT...

 HTH
 ~~Ammon ;~


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 From: Paul Tretter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 8:08 PM
 Subject: [REBOL] Re: Global Font settings


 
  That doesn't seem to work globally.  I tried the following:
 
   Stylize/master [
  [text: text with [
  [font: make font [name: Verdana]
  [
  []
  []
  == [face
  make object! [
  type: 'face
  offset: 0x0
  size: none
  span: none
  pane: none
   ...
   view layout [backdrop forest a: banner Superfonttest]
   a/font/name
  == arial
  
 
  Maybe, I'm assuming to much to think there is something more global in
 this
  case.
 
  Paul
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ammon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 8:41 PM
  Subject: [REBOL] Re: Global Font settings
 
 
  
   Try something like...
  
   Stylize/master [
   text: text with [
   font: make font [;desired settings go here
   ]
   ]
   ]
  
   before you LAYOUT the faces...
  
   HTH
   ~~Ammon ;~
  
  
  
  
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   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 7:15 PM
   Subject: [REBOL] Global Font settings
  
  
I was looking thru anamonitor trying to find where to change the
font
   globally.  I would assume this is something trivial.  I tried setting
 the
   font on vid-face but no luck.  Any ideas?  I know I can use 'with to
set
  the
   font but want the same font by default on all rendered faces.
   
Paul Tretter
   
   
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[REBOL] Re: Global Font settings

2004-02-20 Thread Ammon Johnson

The question is how do you decide what is default and what is not?  Almost
every face that is intended to display text has a different font object!
And the problem with the code I gave you is that it is going to change the
font object for every style.  Just which facets of the font object would you
say need to be changed across all styles and would everyone agree with you?
Just a few thoughts I had on it...

Enjoy!!
~~Ammon ;~

ps.  You could change the code there a bit...

foreach [style face] rebol/view/vid/vid-styles [
face/font/name: Verdana
]

and get the same result...


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From: Paul Tretter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 9:10 PM
Subject: [REBOL] Re: Global Font settings



 Thats interesting - since the 1.3 project is underway, do you think we
need
 a global settings type of system for /view?  Where we can change the
default
 font, spacing, origin, etc...?

 Paul Tretter

 - Original Message - 
 From: Ammon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 9:50 PM
 Subject: [REBOL] Re: Global Font settings


 
  Ah, you want to the font that is used...  Well, I don't believe that
there
  is a built in way to do that, but this should do what you are looking
 for...
 
  foreach [style face] rebol/view/vid/vid-styles [
  face/font: make face/font [name: Verdana]
  ]
 
  note though that it isn't going to change the font used in any faces
that
  have already been passed through LAYOUT...
 
  HTH
  ~~Ammon ;~
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Tretter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 8:08 PM
  Subject: [REBOL] Re: Global Font settings
 
 
  
   That doesn't seem to work globally.  I tried the following:
  
Stylize/master [
   [text: text with [
   [font: make font [name: Verdana]
   [
   []
   []
   == [face
   make object! [
   type: 'face
   offset: 0x0
   size: none
   span: none
   pane: none
...
view layout [backdrop forest a: banner Superfonttest]
a/font/name
   == arial
   
  
   Maybe, I'm assuming to much to think there is something more global in
  this
   case.
  
   Paul
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: Ammon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 8:41 PM
   Subject: [REBOL] Re: Global Font settings
  
  
   
Try something like...
   
Stylize/master [
text: text with [
font: make font [;desired settings go here
]
]
]
   
before you LAYOUT the faces...
   
HTH
~~Ammon ;~
   
   
   
   
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From: Paul Tretter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 7:15 PM
Subject: [REBOL] Global Font settings
   
   
 I was looking thru anamonitor trying to find where to change the
 font
globally.  I would assume this is something trivial.  I tried
setting
  the
font on vid-face but no luck.  Any ideas?  I know I can use 'with to
 set
   the
font but want the same font by default on all rendered faces.

 Paul Tretter


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[REBOL] Re: Global Font settings

2004-02-20 Thread Paul Tretter

Actually great comments.  I just think that we need to start with a certain
canvas and need to be able to define what the canvas should look like and
make our rebellious brushstrokes later as we want to.  So wouldn't it be
nice to have an addition to system/standard/face that defines some of these
settings?  Seems it could help alot to set the global effects of face
rendering in /view.  I'm not sure what cause system/standard/face actually
has at this time.  Does anyone know why its in system standard? I'm not
saying we decide what is default for everyone - what I'm saying is that we
are able to change what is decided as default for everyone.   These global
adustments could be very beneficial and I think they should be included into
some version of /view or at least an easy way of setting their values.

Paul Tretter

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From: Ammon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:53 PM
Subject: [REBOL] Re: Global Font settings



 The question is how do you decide what is default and what is not?  Almost
 every face that is intended to display text has a different font object!
 And the problem with the code I gave you is that it is going to change the
 font object for every style.  Just which facets of the font object would
you
 say need to be changed across all styles and would everyone agree with
you?
 Just a few thoughts I had on it...

 Enjoy!!
 ~~Ammon ;~

 ps.  You could change the code there a bit...

 foreach [style face] rebol/view/vid/vid-styles [
 face/font/name: Verdana
 ]

 and get the same result...


 - Original Message - 
 From: Paul Tretter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 9:10 PM
 Subject: [REBOL] Re: Global Font settings


 
  Thats interesting - since the 1.3 project is underway, do you think we
 need
  a global settings type of system for /view?  Where we can change the
 default
  font, spacing, origin, etc...?
 
  Paul Tretter
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ammon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 9:50 PM
  Subject: [REBOL] Re: Global Font settings
 
 
  
   Ah, you want to the font that is used...  Well, I don't believe that
 there
   is a built in way to do that, but this should do what you are looking
  for...
  
   foreach [style face] rebol/view/vid/vid-styles [
   face/font: make face/font [name: Verdana]
   ]
  
   note though that it isn't going to change the font used in any faces
 that
   have already been passed through LAYOUT...
  
   HTH
   ~~Ammon ;~
  
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: Paul Tretter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 8:08 PM
   Subject: [REBOL] Re: Global Font settings
  
  
   
That doesn't seem to work globally.  I tried the following:
   
 Stylize/master [
[text: text with [
[font: make font [name: Verdana]
[
[]
[]
== [face
make object! [
type: 'face
offset: 0x0
size: none
span: none
pane: none
 ...
 view layout [backdrop forest a: banner Superfonttest]
 a/font/name
== arial

   
Maybe, I'm assuming to much to think there is something more global
in
   this
case.
   
Paul
   
- Original Message - 
From: Ammon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 8:41 PM
Subject: [REBOL] Re: Global Font settings
   
   

 Try something like...

 Stylize/master [
 text: text with [
 font: make font [;desired settings go here
 ]
 ]
 ]

 before you LAYOUT the faces...

 HTH
 ~~Ammon ;~




 - Original Message - 
 From: Paul Tretter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 7:15 PM
 Subject: [REBOL] Global Font settings


  I was looking thru anamonitor trying to find where to change the
  font
 globally.  I would assume this is something trivial.  I tried
 setting
   the
 font on vid-face but no luck.  Any ideas?  I know I can use 'with
to
  set
the
 font but want the same font by default on all rendered faces.
 
  Paul Tretter
 
 
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[REBOL] Re: Global Font settings

2004-02-20 Thread Ammon Johnson

I think that the best way to do something like this may be to set it in the
user prefs file that would enable you to define the basic settings that the
styleset is built on.  Another option would be to be able to regenerate the
styleset on the fly which would mean having the styleset in its native,
un-STYLIZEd form.   If you just want to apply global settings to ALL styles
then the code I already gave you is really simple to understand and easy to
use...

The colors (on some styles) are controlled by statements within the INIT
Block which grabs the colors from rebol/view/vid/vid-colors.  Perhaps font
should have a similar feature?  In fact, I am sure that it should and really
this is something that anyone could create.  I think I will mention it on
the View world...

Enjoy!!
~~Ammon ;~


- Original Message - 
From: Paul Tretter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:21 PM
Subject: [REBOL] Re: Global Font settings



 Actually great comments.  I just think that we need to start with a
certain
 canvas and need to be able to define what the canvas should look like and
 make our rebellious brushstrokes later as we want to.  So wouldn't it be
 nice to have an addition to system/standard/face that defines some of
these
 settings?  Seems it could help alot to set the global effects of face
 rendering in /view.  I'm not sure what cause system/standard/face actually
 has at this time.  Does anyone know why its in system standard? I'm not
 saying we decide what is default for everyone - what I'm saying is that we
 are able to change what is decided as default for everyone.   These global
 adustments could be very beneficial and I think they should be included
into
 some version of /view or at least an easy way of setting their values.

 Paul Tretter

 - Original Message - 
 From: Ammon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:53 PM
 Subject: [REBOL] Re: Global Font settings


 
  The question is how do you decide what is default and what is not?
Almost
  every face that is intended to display text has a different font object!
  And the problem with the code I gave you is that it is going to change
the
  font object for every style.  Just which facets of the font object would
 you
  say need to be changed across all styles and would everyone agree with
 you?
  Just a few thoughts I had on it...
 
  Enjoy!!
  ~~Ammon ;~
 
  ps.  You could change the code there a bit...
 
  foreach [style face] rebol/view/vid/vid-styles [
  face/font/name: Verdana
  ]
 
  and get the same result...
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Tretter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 9:10 PM
  Subject: [REBOL] Re: Global Font settings
 
 
  
   Thats interesting - since the 1.3 project is underway, do you think we
  need
   a global settings type of system for /view?  Where we can change the
  default
   font, spacing, origin, etc...?
  
   Paul Tretter
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: Ammon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 9:50 PM
   Subject: [REBOL] Re: Global Font settings
  
  
   
Ah, you want to the font that is used...  Well, I don't believe that
  there
is a built in way to do that, but this should do what you are
looking
   for...
   
foreach [style face] rebol/view/vid/vid-styles [
face/font: make face/font [name: Verdana]
]
   
note though that it isn't going to change the font used in any faces
  that
have already been passed through LAYOUT...
   
HTH
~~Ammon ;~
   
   
- Original Message - 
From: Paul Tretter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 8:08 PM
Subject: [REBOL] Re: Global Font settings
   
   

 That doesn't seem to work globally.  I tried the following:

  Stylize/master [
 [text: text with [
 [font: make font [name: Verdana]
 [
 []
 []
 == [face
 make object! [
 type: 'face
 offset: 0x0
 size: none
 span: none
 pane: none
  ...
  view layout [backdrop forest a: banner Superfonttest]
  a/font/name
 == arial
 

 Maybe, I'm assuming to much to think there is something more
global
 in
this
 case.

 Paul

 - Original Message - 
 From: Ammon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 8:41 PM
 Subject: [REBOL] Re: Global Font settings


 
  Try something like...
 
  Stylize/master [
  text: text with [
  font: make font [;desired settings go here
  ]
  ]
  ]
 
  before you LAYOUT the faces...
 
  HTH
  ~~Ammon ;~
 
 
 
 
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