[REBOL] Re: [The Gimp] clashes with REBOL on Windows 2000
well this is sort of weird, I don't have a home environment variable, and rebol seems to work fine. > > Hi all, > > when I tried to install The Gimp on Windows 2000 I found out that there is a > clash with REBOL. > I've set the environment variable HOME to point to the REBOL/View > executable. > However, The Gimp seems to take HOME as it's place to write user dependent > info and tries to create directories and files at that place. > > Does anybody know whether there is an alternative name for HOME to point to > the REBOL stuff, or to direct The Gimp elsewhere? > > I already tried to remove HOME temporarily, then letting The Gimp create > it's stuff (now in an appropriate user dependent place). When I then start > The Gimp later it works fine. However, when I reintroduce HOME, The Gimp > gets lost again and wants to use HOME again. > > Met vriendelijke groet / with kind regards, >Arie van Wingerden > http://home.zonnet.nl/rebolution/ > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: [Plugin] is cool
actually it might be good to have a plugin
script that kept track of all plugin scripts
in the library, and then you could use that
script to set the LaunchUrl parameter of the
object tag using do-browser.
>
> The javascripts I was referring to, must
be _inside_ the rebol code. So all I need to
do
to test misc. rebol code as plugins, is to
provide the LauncURL parameter to the
OBJECT-tag. Works quite well, actually.
>
> HY
>
> Dixit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (11.05 22.04.2004):
> >right but if you want to set up something
> >that allows you just to test unknown
rebol
> >scripts as pluggable.
> >>
> >> Dixit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (20.41 21.04.2004):
> >> >I guess there should be an error try
on
> >that
> >> >do-browser right?
> >>
> >> Good idea, although I've never had any
> >problems.
> >>
> >> HY
> >>
> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> The plugin module for MSIE is cool.
And
> >> >with the javascript access to the
> >browser's
> >> >DOM
> >> >tree, interesting things can be done.
> >> >>
> >> >> I've added a feature to the rix
search
> >> >engine: plug the scripts in directly.
So
> >if
> >> >you get
> >> >"plugable" results from a search (e.g.
> >> >http://www.oops-as.no/rix?
> >q=plugin&st=sfh),
> >> >there
> >> >will be a link with the words "plug it
> >in!".
> >> >Once you click it, you get to see the
> >script
> >> >as a plugin right away.
> >> >>
> >> >> But.
> >> >>
> >> >> How can I know the width and height
> >> >parameters of all rebol scripts? I
can't.
> >> >But these
> >> >parameters can be set from inside a
> >plugin
> >> >script thanks to 'do-browser. Here's
how
> >you
> >> >do
> >> >it:
> >> >>
> >> >> do-browser {document.getElementById
> >> >('RPluginIE').width=100;
> >> >document.getElementById
> >> >('RPluginIE').height=100;}
> >> >>
> >> >> This example sets both width and
height
> >to
> >> >100 pixels. (Isn't it funny how rebol
in
> >this
> >> >case must use a javascript to set it's
> >own
> >> >parameters?) Width and height should
of
> >> >course
> >> >be whatever suits your script best. If
> >all
> >> >scripts contained these lines, my new
rix
> >> >feature would be even cooler... For
> >those
> >> >who would like to have your scripts
> >indexed,
> >> >but not plugged in, consider this:
> >> >>
> >> >> do-browser
> >> >
> >
{top.location.href="http://www.rebol.net/plug
> >> >in/demos/anamonitor.html";}
> >> >>
> >> >> OK, time to go to bed.
> >> >> HY
> >> >>
> >> >> Prætera censeo Carthaginem esse
delendam
> >> >>
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[REBOL] Re: [Plugin] is cool
I'm thinking we must be miscommunicating, if
UI write a script that is pluggable but I
want it to run non-plugged in most cases
then I should add in an error try to check
if do-browser works. actually i haven't
checked the newest version of the plugin,
been working, but IIRC earlier versions
crashed if one tried to try do-browser for
errors.
>
> The javascripts I was referring to, must
be _inside_ the rebol code. So all I need to
do
to test misc. rebol code as plugins, is to
provide the LauncURL parameter to the
OBJECT-tag. Works quite well, actually.
>
> HY
>
> Dixit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (11.05 22.04.2004):
> >right but if you want to set up something
> >that allows you just to test unknown
rebol
> >scripts as pluggable.
> >>
> >> Dixit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (20.41 21.04.2004):
> >> >I guess there should be an error try
on
> >that
> >> >do-browser right?
> >>
> >> Good idea, although I've never had any
> >problems.
> >>
> >> HY
> >>
> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> The plugin module for MSIE is cool.
And
> >> >with the javascript access to the
> >browser's
> >> >DOM
> >> >tree, interesting things can be done.
> >> >>
> >> >> I've added a feature to the rix
search
> >> >engine: plug the scripts in directly.
So
> >if
> >> >you get
> >> >"plugable" results from a search (e.g.
> >> >http://www.oops-as.no/rix?
> >q=plugin&st=sfh),
> >> >there
> >> >will be a link with the words "plug it
> >in!".
> >> >Once you click it, you get to see the
> >script
> >> >as a plugin right away.
> >> >>
> >> >> But.
> >> >>
> >> >> How can I know the width and height
> >> >parameters of all rebol scripts? I
can't.
> >> >But these
> >> >parameters can be set from inside a
> >plugin
> >> >script thanks to 'do-browser. Here's
how
> >you
> >> >do
> >> >it:
> >> >>
> >> >> do-browser {document.getElementById
> >> >('RPluginIE').width=100;
> >> >document.getElementById
> >> >('RPluginIE').height=100;}
> >> >>
> >> >> This example sets both width and
height
> >to
> >> >100 pixels. (Isn't it funny how rebol
in
> >this
> >> >case must use a javascript to set it's
> >own
> >> >parameters?) Width and height should
of
> >> >course
> >> >be whatever suits your script best. If
> >all
> >> >scripts contained these lines, my new
rix
> >> >feature would be even cooler... For
> >those
> >> >who would like to have your scripts
> >indexed,
> >> >but not plugged in, consider this:
> >> >>
> >> >> do-browser
> >> >
> >
{top.location.href="http://www.rebol.net/plug
> >> >in/demos/anamonitor.html";}
> >> >>
> >> >> OK, time to go to bed.
> >> >> HY
> >> >>
> >> >> Prætera censeo Carthaginem esse
delendam
> >> >>
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[REBOL] Re: [Plugin] is cool
right but if you want to set up something
that allows you just to test unknown rebol
scripts as pluggable.
>
> Dixit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (20.41 21.04.2004):
> >I guess there should be an error try on
that
> >do-browser right?
>
> Good idea, although I've never had any
problems.
>
> HY
>
>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> The plugin module for MSIE is cool. And
> >with the javascript access to the
browser's
> >DOM
> >tree, interesting things can be done.
> >>
> >> I've added a feature to the rix search
> >engine: plug the scripts in directly. So
if
> >you get
> >"plugable" results from a search (e.g.
> >http://www.oops-as.no/rix?
q=plugin&st=sfh),
> >there
> >will be a link with the words "plug it
in!".
> >Once you click it, you get to see the
script
> >as a plugin right away.
> >>
> >> But.
> >>
> >> How can I know the width and height
> >parameters of all rebol scripts? I can't.
> >But these
> >parameters can be set from inside a
plugin
> >script thanks to 'do-browser. Here's how
you
> >do
> >it:
> >>
> >> do-browser {document.getElementById
> >('RPluginIE').width=100;
> >document.getElementById
> >('RPluginIE').height=100;}
> >>
> >> This example sets both width and height
to
> >100 pixels. (Isn't it funny how rebol in
this
> >case must use a javascript to set it's
own
> >parameters?) Width and height should of
> >course
> >be whatever suits your script best. If
all
> >scripts contained these lines, my new rix
> >feature would be even cooler... For
those
> >who would like to have your scripts
indexed,
> >but not plugged in, consider this:
> >>
> >> do-browser
> >
{top.location.href="http://www.rebol.net/plug
> >in/demos/anamonitor.html";}
> >>
> >> OK, time to go to bed.
> >> HY
> >>
> >> Prætera censeo Carthaginem esse delendam
> >>
> >>
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[REBOL] Re: Web Services Journal
and your point, in regards to Rebol is?? > > > http://www.sys-con.com/story/? storyid=44354&DE=1 > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: [Plugin] is cool
I guess there should be an error try on that
do-browser right?
>
> Hi,
>
> The plugin module for MSIE is cool. And
with the javascript access to the browser's
DOM
tree, interesting things can be done.
>
> I've added a feature to the rix search
engine: plug the scripts in directly. So if
you get
"plugable" results from a search (e.g.
http://www.oops-as.no/rix?q=plugin&st=sfh),
there
will be a link with the words "plug it in!".
Once you click it, you get to see the script
as a plugin right away.
>
> But.
>
> How can I know the width and height
parameters of all rebol scripts? I can't.
But these
parameters can be set from inside a plugin
script thanks to 'do-browser. Here's how you
do
it:
>
> do-browser {document.getElementById
('RPluginIE').width=100;
document.getElementById
('RPluginIE').height=100;}
>
> This example sets both width and height to
100 pixels. (Isn't it funny how rebol in this
case must use a javascript to set it's own
parameters?) Width and height should of
course
be whatever suits your script best. If all
scripts contained these lines, my new rix
feature would be even cooler... For those
who would like to have your scripts indexed,
but not plugged in, consider this:
>
> do-browser
{top.location.href="http://www.rebol.net/plug
in/demos/anamonitor.html";}
>
> OK, time to go to bed.
> HY
>
> Prætera censeo Carthaginem esse delendam
>
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[REBOL] Re: how do i use set-net to tell my email server what my password is?
no I want to send email through rebol. unfortunately my email account needs to have my password, also a username of name\domain instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] which rebol quits on name\ > I don't think you do this. > Not a good idea to have your password in a > standard location. > > You just want to have rebol as a client, always ready > to read email, not as a cgi, right? > > Anton. > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] set-net crash with unusual account name
Hi, my email server seems to have unusual account names, these being in the form of name \ domain instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also need to have set-net have my login. -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] how do i use set-net to tell my email server what my password is?
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[REBOL] Re: system file icons
as Icon is generally saved as a resource inside of a dll you can use the res protocol to access it: http://www.google.com/search? hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=res+protocol however using that from rebol is probably not doable. > > Hi Max, > > MOA> does anyone know how to get the images which are used for filetypes associations > MOA> ? > > Under Windows you'd probably need COM access to get at the > IExtractIcon interface in the Shell extension system. Since we can't > do COM, that method is out. You might be able to do it another way, > definitely requiring library access, but it's likely to be a pain and, > of course, totally non-portable to boot. > > -- Gregg > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] [Rebol/View dll] BgColor not work
anyone get the BgColor param working, the following: http://www.rebol.com/downloads/plug in/rebolplugin.cab#Version=0,3,0 ,0" WIDTH="200" HEIGHT="700"> with a view form with the backcolor set to navy and the html body set to navy produces the image in the attached gif, i.e. plain white backgroun in the parts of the plugin not covered by my form. -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- -- Type: image/gif -- File: searchbar.gif -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Rebol/View dll further errors
I'm running version 3 This is a followup to the searchbar error Ive discussed before, I have that fixed now so that when I click on IE's Search button it loads the rebol script in the search bar. Unfortunately when I click on the customize search on the chrome for that window I get an error that crashes IE: the error, from my logs is: : 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat 0008: 69 6f 6e 20 46 61 69 6c ion Fail 0010: 75 72 65 20 20 69 65 78 ure iex 0018: 70 6c 6f 72 65 2e 65 78 plore.ex 0020: 65 20 36 2e 30 2e 32 36 e 6.0.26 0028: 30 30 2e 30 20 69 6e 20 00.0 in 0030: 72 65 62 6f 6c 70 6c 75 rebolplu 0038: 67 69 6e 2e 64 6c 6c 20 gin.dll 0040: 30 2e 33 2e 30 2e 30 20 0.3.0.0 0048: 61 74 20 6f 66 66 73 65 at offse 0050: 74 20 30 30 30 30 34 30 t 40 0058: 31 66 0d 0a 1f.. -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] how to do this better was Re: How to do a portion of a layout?
okay I have the following:
search-engines: make Object! [
Google: ["http://www.google.com/search?
q=" "&btnG=Google+Search"]
Dogpile:
["http://www.dogpile.com/info.dogpl/search/we
b/" ""]
HotBot: ["http://www.hotbot.com/default.asp?
query="
"&ps=&loc=searchbox&tab=web&provKey=Inktomi"]
Vivisimo: ["http://vivisimo.com/search?
query=" "&sources=Web"]
Alexa: ["http://www.alexa.com/search?q="; ""]
Eurekster: ["http://www.eurekster.com/search?
p=Q&ts=e&f=&w=" ""]]
swords: next first search-engines
button-list: ""
v:
{layout [
backdrop 219.219.219
across
word_to_lookup: field 120 []
return
}
buttons: foreach word swords[searchstring:
get in search-engines word
s1: pick searchstring 1
s2: pick searchstring 2
append button-list reform[
{ button "} word {" [do-browser join ["}
s1{" word_to_lookup/text "}s2{"]]
return }
]
]
append v button-list
append v "]"
view do v
and I sort of find that whole buttons word
to be really darn ugly. How would one do
this in a cleaner manner, I don't mind if
it's more verbose, I just want it to be a
little bit more comprehensible without all
that ugly escaping.
By the way, why does probe start the shell.
And is there any smart stuff, or dumb stuff,
that one could do starting the shell from
the Rebol/View dll?
>
> Hi, I'm trying to build a portion of a
form
> from a text string, this string at the end
I
> want to do and have my buttons etc. where
> they should be.
>
> The string certainly looks to be coming
out
> okay, but it doesn't seem that one can
> have do b in the layout and then have the
> form expanded. How does one go about doing
> this.
>
>
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[REBOL] How to do a portion of a layout?
Hi, I'm trying to build a portion of a form from a text string, this string at the end I want to do and have my buttons etc. where they should be. The string certainly looks to be coming out okay, but it doesn't seem that one can have do b in the layout and then have the form expanded. How does one go about doing this. -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Rebol SearchBar in IE example
Hi, I wanted to post the early demo of a
searchbar for IE using the Rebol/View
plugin, mainly cause I figure there are
probably some people in this list who still
use IE from time to time, and they might
find it useful to extend. Then perhaps when
the plugin in finished this would be a good
demo to get people downloading rebol,
obviously part of my incentive on this is my
belief that system modifications, extensions
are an area for which rebol is especially
well suited in Windows, never more so with
the plugin now available.
This demo consists of the following:
1. a html file hosting the plugin
2. the rebol script, which is basically
Kevin Adams search center script adapted for
running in the browser search bar and for
using the plugin.
3. the registry settings to associate the
html file with your search.
the html file is as follows:
-
function go(url){
window.open(url,"_main","");
}
function evaluate(code){
var tstring = eval(code);
return tstring;
}
http://www.rebol.com/downloads/plug
in/rebolplugin.cab#Version=0,3,0
,0"
WIDTH="200" HEIGHT="700">
---
the rebol script is as follows:
---
REBOL [
Title: "Search Center"
Date: 4-Nov-2001
Version: 1.2.2
File: %search2.r
Author: "Kevin Adams"
Adapted-by: {Bryan Rasmussen to run
in IE as searchbar}
Needs: "REBOL View/Plugin Dll"
Purpose: {Searches various places,such
as Google, without having to go to
their website.}
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Notes: {A little source code take from
Jos Yule's Dictionary Lookup
program.}
library: [
level: none
platform: none
type: none
domain: [other-net GUI web markup]
tested-under: none
support: none
license: none
see-also: none
]
]
panel1: layout [
backdrop 219.219.219
across
return
h2 "Search" 28.52.86
return
word_to_lookup: field 120 [
]
returnbutton "Google" 60 effect
[gradient 0.0.0] [
do-browser join "go('" join
["http://www.google.com/search?q=";
word_to_lookup/text "&btnG=Google+Search"] "'
)"
]
return
button "Dogpile" 60 effect [gradient
0.0.0] [
do-browser join "go('" join
["http://www.dogpile.com/info.dogpl/search/we
b/" word_to_lookup/text ] "')"
]
return
button "HotBot" 60 effect [gradient
0.0.0] [
do-browser join "go('" join
["http://www.hotbot.com/default.asp?query=";
word_to_lookup/text
"&ps=&loc=searchbox&tab=web&provKey=Inktomi"]
"')"
]
return
button "Vivisimo" 60 effect [gradient
0.0.0] [
do-browser join "go('" join
["http://vivisimo.com/search?query=";
word_to_lookup/text "&sources=Web"] "')"
]
return
button "Alexa" 60 effect [gradient
0.0.0] [
do-browser join "go('" join
["http://www.alexa.com/search?q=";
word_to_lookup/text] "')"
]
]
panel1/offset: 0x0
view center-face
panel1
---
You will notice that I removed all the extra
panels and such that were in the original
script, as I considered that they got in the
way when run within the browser. also I set
there only to be one search field.
the registry settings:
--
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Intern
et Explorer\Search]
"SearchAssistant"="file://c:\\winnt\\web\\sea
rchbar.html"
"CustomizeSearch"="file://c:\\winnt\\web\\sea
rchbar.html"
-
note of course that you can put it the html
file wherever you want but this is what I
chose.
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[REBOL] Re: Rebol/ View dll do-browser crashing browser
Yes I do have the evaluate function.
I was replacing browse with do-browser so
that I could pass up code to the html page
to load the page in the _main browser
window. The search bar, which you see when
you click on the search button on your
browsers chrome, is in a window named
_search, so if you want to open a page in
the main window that called the search
window you have to have the following:
window.open(url,"_main");
anyway I really don't understand how do-
browser should be affecting this, I mean
that do-browser should only be called when I
click on a button in the rebol view form.
yet nonetheless if I start that page I get
the errors outlined on loading the page, yet
as also noted these errors are not 100% of
the time, but around 70%. The most logical
thing would be a memory leak somewhere, but
my system doesn't seem to be using any
excessive resources.
> Hello! Two questions:
>
> 1) Do you have the evaluate function in
your HTML page code?
> 2) Why are you replacing browser with do-
browser? browse still works
> great for launching the web browser.
>
> Josh
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:rebol-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 7:12 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [REBOL] Rebol/ View dll do-
browser crashing browser
>
> Hi, I was adapting Kevin Adams search2.r
to
> be a searchbar in explorer, pretty much I
> just went through and replaced browse/only
> with do-browser some extra joins, it works
> only, not very often, about 70% of the
time
> it crashes the browser, if the browser
opens
> with the searchbar window open it crashes
as
> well basically if the searchbar crashes
the
> browser once, it will restart about 3-4
> times before it stops crashing.
>
> I sort of find that annoying.
>
> now it was completely fine before I added
in
> do-browser, only then of course every time
I
> did a search and clicked on the button it
> opened a new browser instance. So I assume
> it has to be do-browser, only as one can
see
> from the code here do-browser is also
called
> by buttons being pushed:
>
>
> about: layout [
> backdrop 219.219.219
> h1 "Search Center" 28.52.86
> text "Version 1.2.0"
> text "written by Kevin Adams,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> button "okay" [unview] 70x20 effect
> [gradient 0.0.0]
> ]
>
> win1: layout/size [
> backdrop 219.219.219
> h1 "Search Center" 28.52.86
> guide
> pad 20
> button "Section One" [panels/pane:
> panel1 show panels] 85x20 effect
>
> [gradient 0.0.0]
> button "Section Two" [panels/pane:
> panel2 show panels] 85x20 effect
>
> [gradient 0.0.0]
> button "About" [view/new center-face
> about] 85x20 effect [gradient 0.0.0]
> button "Quit" [quit] 85x20 effect
> [gradient 0.0.0]
> return
> box 2x270 28.52.86
> return
> panels: box 180x280
> ] 350x350
>
> panel1: layout [
> backdrop 219.219.219
> across
>
> h2 "Dictionary Search" 28.52.86
> return
>
> word_to_lookup2: field 120 [
> ]
> button "Go" 30 effect [gradient
> 0.0.0] [
> do-browser join "go('"
join
>
> [http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary "?
> book=dictionary&va="
>
> word_to_lookup2/text] "')"
>
> ]
>
> return
> h2 "Google Search" 28.52.86
> return
>
> word_to_lookup3: field 120 [
> ]
> button "Go" 30 effect [gradient 0.0.0]
[
> do-browser join "go('" join
> ["http://www.google.com/search?q=";
>
>
word_to_lookup3/text "&btnG=Google+Search"] "
> ')"
> ]
>
> return
> h2 "Yahoo Search" 28.52.86
> return
>
> word_to_lookup6: field 120 [
> ]
> button "Go" 30 effect [gradient 0.0.0]
[
> do-browser join "go('" join
> ["http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=";
>
> word_to_lookup6/text ] "')"
> ]
>
> return
> h2 "Slashdot Search" 28.52.86
> return
>
> word_to_lookup1: field 120 [
> ]
> button "Go" 30 effect [gradient 0.0.0]
[
>do-browser join "go('" join
>
> ["http://slashdot.org/search.pl?
> query="word_to_lookup1/text ] "')"
> ]
>
> ]
>
> panel2: layout [
> backdrop 219.219.219
> across
>
> return
> h2 "Image Search" 28.52.86
> return
>
> word_to_lookup4: field 120 [
> ]
> button "Go" 30 effect [gradient 0.0.0]
[
> do-browser join "go('" join
>
> ["http://images.google.com/images?
num=20&q="
> word_to_lookup4/text
>
> "&btnG=Google+Search"] "')"
> ]
>
> return
> h2 "Usenet Search" 28.52.86
> return
>
> word_to_lookup5: field 120 [
> ]
> button "Go" 30 effect [gradient 0.0.0]
[
>do-browser join "go('" join
> ["http://groups.google.com/groups?q=";
>
>
word_to_lookup5/text "&hl=&btnG=Google+Search
> "] "')"
> ]
>
> return
> h2 "eBay Search" 28.52.86
> return
>
> word_to_lookup7: field 120 [
> ]
> button "Go" 30 effect [gradient
0.0.0]
> [
>do-browser join "go('" join
[REBOL] Re: HTML/Javascript vs REBOL plugin (was Re:
well my comment was originally in reference to a filetype:r rebol search on google. this returns some documents that are scripts, but also documents that just happen to have the .r extension. so all that would be needed to weed something like that out would be something like filetype:r rebol not- mime:text/html cause the chance of an r file (http://www.r- project.org/) referencing rebol is pretty minimal I figure. > Dixit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (11.25 21.03.2004): > >actually all it would need is if one could > >do searches against MIME type. don't think > >google offers that yet, but there may be > >other search engines that do. > > I had a mime type setting on the rix search, but omitted it when I put in the different options for searches in REBOL headers. If there's an interest for it, I'll put it back in. > > Rebol scripts don't always come with the same mime type (from different servers?). I have seen text/plain, application/octet-stream and text/x-rebol, just to mention a few. So I would have to do some hacks, but it shouldn't be difficult, though. > > HY > > Prætera censeo Carthaginem esse delendam > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] whois microsoft.com?
hmm, whoishost: to-string read rejoin [whois:// host "@rs.internic.net"] gives some funny info if I input host as microsoft.com but if I go to internic.net I seem to get what I'm supposed to. http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whois? whois_nic=microsoft.com&type=domain -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: CitrusWeb sample - so you want to edit?
> > > Hopefully REBOLers will create some jaw- dropping apps that bring about a > > broad-scale re-evaluation of REBOL's great capabilities. > > This is what I hope/expect. This is what I aim bloodstone to be. since many > rpg players ARE programmers, then it might convert some of them, when they see > just how powerfull rebol really CAN be. > > Well the way I use Rebol is pretty much for simple scripts, for various reasons - some licensing based, some capabilities based - I don't find it interesting to build big solutions in. I want Rebol to be useful for basically hacking whatever system I'm on. Because of this I naturally expect that the way to get other people interested in Rebol is to show them ways they can rather quickly hack the system they're on. As such the plugin doesn't interest me so much as something running on a website, it interests me as something running locally interacting with the browser or other parts of windows that uses the browser's rendering engine. examples: The IE search bar Outlook's html rendering engine Custom built toolbars and toolbutton integration (of which I have a small example running on my system, hoping to make public in the next week) IE context menu calling rebol functions htt webfolder views integrated with rebol Active Desktop (of which I have an example running) -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] rebol plugin version question?
if my RebolPlugin.dll version is 0.1.0.0 should my viewdll.dll still be 0.0.0.0? -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: Rebol/ View dll do-browser crashing browser
here's one of the error reports I've had on this: Description: The description for Event ID ( 1000 ) in Source ( Microsoft Internet Explorer ) cannot be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer. The following information is part of the event: iexplore.exe; 6.0.2600.0; ntdll.dll; 5.0.2163.1; 0004b007. Data bytes: : 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat 0008: 69 6f 6e 20 46 61 69 6c ion Fail 0010: 75 72 65 20 20 69 65 78 ure iex 0018: 70 6c 6f 72 65 2e 65 78 plore.ex 0020: 65 20 36 2e 30 2e 32 36 e 6.0.26 0028: 30 30 2e 30 20 69 6e 20 00.0 in 0030: 6e 74 64 6c 6c 2e 64 6c ntdll.dl 0038: 6c 20 35 2e 30 2e 32 31 l 5.0.21 0040: 36 33 2e 31 20 61 74 20 63.1 at 0048: 6f 66 66 73 65 74 20 30 offset 0 0050: 30 30 34 62 30 30 37 0d 004b007. 0058: 0a. words: : 6c707041 74616369 206e6f69 6c696146 0010: 20657275 78656920 726f6c70 78652e65 0020: 2e362065 36322e30 302e3030 206e6920 0030: 6c64746e 6c642e6c 2e35206c 31322e30 0040: 312e3336 20746120 736f 30207465 0050: 62343030 0d373030 0a you will notice that viewdll is not mentioned in the error, this is when the error occurs with the html page hosting view dll as a searchbar (if you want to check this out run the code shown earlier as an .r file referenced via an object from the html page, and load the html page into your searchbar by changing the following registry settings HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Interne t Explorer\Search\CustomizeSearch and HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Interne t Explorer\Search\SearchAssistant) to refer to the html page using the file:/// protocol however if I load that same html page directly into the browser, and run a query it works, but if I then try to use the back button to go back to the preceding page hosting the Rebol dll I get the following: Description: The description for Event ID ( 1000 ) in Source ( Microsoft Internet Explorer ) cannot be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer. The following information is part of the event: iexplore.exe; 6.0.2600.0; viewdll.dll; 0.0.0.0; 0001cd00. Data bytes: : 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat 0008: 69 6f 6e 20 46 61 69 6c ion Fail 0010: 75 72 65 20 20 69 65 78 ure iex 0018: 70 6c 6f 72 65 2e 65 78 plore.ex 0020: 65 20 36 2e 30 2e 32 36 e 6.0.26 0028: 30 30 2e 30 20 69 6e 20 00.0 in 0030: 76 69 65 77 64 6c 6c 2e viewdll. 0038: 64 6c 6c 20 30 2e 30 2e dll 0.0. 0040: 30 2e 30 20 61 74 20 6f 0.0 at o 0048: 66 66 73 65 74 20 30 30 ffset 00 0050: 30 31 63 64 30 30 0d 0a 01cd00.. words: : 6c707041 74616369 206e6f69 6c696146 0010: 20657275 78656920 726f6c70 78652e65 0020: 2e362065 36322e30 302e3030 206e6920 0030: 77656976 2e6c6c64 206c6c64 2e302e30 0040: 20302e30 6f207461 6573 30302074 0050: 64633130 0a0d3030 So I think it is clear that the error is in fact running from View dll. Any ideas? suggestions? -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Rebol/ View dll do-browser crashing browser
Hi, I was adapting Kevin Adams search2.r to
be a searchbar in explorer, pretty much I
just went through and replaced browse/only
with do-browser some extra joins, it works
only, not very often, about 70% of the time
it crashes the browser, if the browser opens
with the searchbar window open it crashes as
well basically if the searchbar crashes the
browser once, it will restart about 3-4
times before it stops crashing.
I sort of find that annoying.
now it was completely fine before I added in
do-browser, only then of course every time I
did a search and clicked on the button it
opened a new browser instance. So I assume
it has to be do-browser, only as one can see
from the code here do-browser is also called
by buttons being pushed:
about: layout [
backdrop 219.219.219
h1 "Search Center" 28.52.86
text "Version 1.2.0"
text "written by Kevin Adams,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
button "okay" [unview] 70x20 effect
[gradient 0.0.0]
]
win1: layout/size [
backdrop 219.219.219
h1 "Search Center" 28.52.86
guide
pad 20
button "Section One" [panels/pane:
panel1 show panels] 85x20 effect
[gradient 0.0.0]
button "Section Two" [panels/pane:
panel2 show panels] 85x20 effect
[gradient 0.0.0]
button "About" [view/new center-face
about] 85x20 effect [gradient 0.0.0]
button "Quit" [quit] 85x20 effect
[gradient 0.0.0]
return
box 2x270 28.52.86
return
panels: box 180x280
] 350x350
panel1: layout [
backdrop 219.219.219
across
h2 "Dictionary Search" 28.52.86
return
word_to_lookup2: field 120 [
]
button "Go" 30 effect [gradient
0.0.0] [
do-browser join "go('" join
[http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary "?
book=dictionary&va="
word_to_lookup2/text] "')"
]
return
h2 "Google Search" 28.52.86
return
word_to_lookup3: field 120 [
]
button "Go" 30 effect [gradient 0.0.0] [
do-browser join "go('" join
["http://www.google.com/search?q=";
word_to_lookup3/text "&btnG=Google+Search"] "
')"
]
return
h2 "Yahoo Search" 28.52.86
return
word_to_lookup6: field 120 [
]
button "Go" 30 effect [gradient 0.0.0] [
do-browser join "go('" join
["http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=";
word_to_lookup6/text ] "')"
]
return
h2 "Slashdot Search" 28.52.86
return
word_to_lookup1: field 120 [
]
button "Go" 30 effect [gradient 0.0.0] [
do-browser join "go('" join
["http://slashdot.org/search.pl?
query="word_to_lookup1/text ] "')"
]
]
panel2: layout [
backdrop 219.219.219
across
return
h2 "Image Search" 28.52.86
return
word_to_lookup4: field 120 [
]
button "Go" 30 effect [gradient 0.0.0] [
do-browser join "go('" join
["http://images.google.com/images?num=20&q=";
word_to_lookup4/text
"&btnG=Google+Search"] "')"
]
return
h2 "Usenet Search" 28.52.86
return
word_to_lookup5: field 120 [
]
button "Go" 30 effect [gradient 0.0.0] [
do-browser join "go('" join
["http://groups.google.com/groups?q=";
word_to_lookup5/text "&hl=&btnG=Google+Search
"] "')"
]
return
h2 "eBay Search" 28.52.86
return
word_to_lookup7: field 120 [
]
button "Go" 30 effect [gradient 0.0.0]
[
do-browser join "go('" join
["http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?
MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=1&Sor
tProperty=MetaEndSort&query="
word_to_lookup7/text "&x=-567&y=-92"] "')"
]
return
h2 "Stock Quote" 28.52.86
return
word_to_lookup8: field 120 [
]
button "Go" 30 effect [gradient 0.0.0] [
do-browser join "go('" join
["http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=";
word_to_lookup8/text "&d=v3"] "')"
]
]
panel1/offset: 0x0
panel2/offset: 0x0
panels/pane: panel1
view center-face win1
'go' is just a function in my javascript, as
follows:
function go(url){
window.open(url,"_main","");
}
to get it to open in the new browser window.
The helpful IE error message is:
---
iexplore.exe - Application Error
---
The instruction at "0x77fcb007" referenced
memory at "0x00650070". The memory could not
be "written".
Click on OK to terminate the program
---
OK
---
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[REBOL] Re: HTML/Javascript vs REBOL plugin (was Re: CitrusWeb sample - so you
actually all it would need is if one could do searches against MIME type. don't think google offers that yet, but there may be other search engines that do. > > On 21-Mar-04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > maybe you need to do this search: > > http://www.google.com/search? hl=en&ie=UTF- > > 8&oe=UTF-8&q=filetype%3Ar+rebol > > The idea is to find a way for scripts to show up with standard > searches, as well as to have the text in them searchable by Google. > So if you have comments in your REBOL header, searching for those > comments will find the script. > > -- > Carl Read > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: HTML/Javascript vs REBOL plugin (was Re: CitrusWeb sample - so you
maybe you need to do this search: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF- 8&oe=UTF-8&q=filetype%3Ar+rebol > > On 20-Mar-04, Luke Orlando Emmet wrote: > > > How would a > > rebsite (or a flashsite etc) get searched by Google?? > > >From a technical POV, a rebsite wouldn't be difficult for Google to > search - it just needs to look at the script's header. I doubt > they'll bother till there's millions of scripts about though. > > Out of curiousity, I've just been using Google to try and find REBOL > scripts and a search for "rebol .r" (without the speechmarks) ranked > my solar-sim reblet at 5. Like it's had about 50 hits and been > online for all of two weeks and it's at number 5 in a search for > "rebol .r"?!? It's also the first link shown with a .r extension. > > So, what's different about my reblet? Well, because of the way my > host handles REBOL scripts, (they have to have a .r extension), I > couldn't have the reblet's page point to a script with a .r extension > as it'd generate an error. So I gave the script a .reblet extension > and the reblet's page a .r instead of .html. (Yes, it's a REBOL > script too, hence its counter.) > > Moral of the story? HTML with a .r extension can get listed high by > Google, whereas scripts with a .r extension don't seem to. > > I'm now toying with the idea of changing the .reblet extension on the > script to .html to see what happens. ;-) > > -- > Carl Read > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: Rebol/View dll errors with file location
thanks, although it's not that big of an issue now that I found out how to do a direct path in the LaunchUrl param. The fact that it tried to put /C/ at the front of any exact path threw me cause I was of course putting /C/ at the front of my path. > > Thanks, this is a definite bug with the file:// protocol. It's on the > fix list. > > Josh > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:rebol- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 3:39 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [REBOL] Rebol/View dll errors with file location > > okay I have an interesting bug in the > plugin: I found this out cause I'm building > an explorer button, the button loads a html > page in IE's _search window using the > file:// protocol, so it refers to > file:///c:/winnt/web/toolbar.html? location=a > string here; now if a string here is some > normal string like howdy everything is fine > but if it is an actual http:// path that > causes a real problem, causing the > Rebol/View dll shell to open up and ask me > to enter desktop :) > > so doing some more experimenting I stripped > out the actual protocol part of my http path > and got the following: > > ** Access Error: Cannot > open /C/WINNT/Web/testbar.html? > location=localhost/sites/mmc_dotnet/testbar.r > ** Near: do/args script system/script/args > quit > >> > > I think if there is going to be working with > files in the browser environment which will > accept a file opened with the file protocol > with this syntax then there should probably > be better handling of the conversion to > rebol path before an attempt is made to open > it. > > Haven't tested but I wonder what the result > would be with a http url with the same > structure: > > http://pathname? > querystring=http://otherpathname > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Rebol/View dll errors with file location
okay I have an interesting bug in the plugin: I found this out cause I'm building an explorer button, the button loads a html page in IE's _search window using the file:// protocol, so it refers to file:///c:/winnt/web/toolbar.html?location=a string here; now if a string here is some normal string like howdy everything is fine but if it is an actual http:// path that causes a real problem, causing the Rebol/View dll shell to open up and ask me to enter desktop :) so doing some more experimenting I stripped out the actual protocol part of my http path and got the following: ** Access Error: Cannot open /C/WINNT/Web/testbar.html? location=localhost/sites/mmc_dotnet/testbar.r ** Near: do/args script system/script/args quit >> I think if there is going to be working with files in the browser environment which will accept a file opened with the file protocol with this syntax then there should probably be better handling of the conversion to rebol path before an attempt is made to open it. Haven't tested but I wonder what the result would be with a http url with the same structure: http://pathname? querystring=http://otherpathname -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: Idea for rebol.org...
actually I think Rebol.org should have a wiki underneath it. > Hi, using rebol.org quite often to get an overview about available code > and collect ideas the following idea striked me. > > You know that I see fragmentation of efforts/information as one major > problem, which makes it hard for newbies to get into Rebol. Further > fragmentation slows down "professionalism" of Rebol for business markets. > > Anyway, with rebol.org we have a very good reference point. At the moment > it's a portal to get access to scripts, someone owns and updates. Scripts > are independent. The library people introduced the idea of packages, so > now I can add collections of scripts that are related. But still it's only > a one-person show. > > How about going to the next level? I would like to see a new section at > rebol.org, that contains a peer-reviewed library/framework following the > concept of the BOOST C++ library. We have a lot of very talented and > guru-level people here, to ensure high quality. > > How can such a process look like? > I see the peer-reviewed part of rebol.org made up be several levels. > - Strategy: What do we all need? What's the focus and priority? > - Research: What can we re-use, what ideas, concepts exist, what > succeeded? > - Concept : How should the design/usage/... look like? > - Development > - Review : The Review-Board checks quality etc. on the delivered code and > integrates the code into the overall library. > > What gets included depends on the need of the people. The strategy should > give a hint, for what is needed to achieve as much value as possible for > the community. Teams will either form to work on a topic or not. If not, > well, than it's not needed by many. > > IMO this will result in a high quality library of code, that fits > together. And that's something we all miss. With the availability of the > browser-plugin, we can even go that far to create a > peer-review-library-application. > > What do you think? > > -- > Robert M. Münch > Management & IT Freelancer > Mobile: +49 (177) 245 2802 > http://www.robertmuench.de > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: Announcement: REBOL/Plugin Beta-1 Released!
close all browser instances (if you've tried to run the plugin in this session) go to %SYSTEM\Downloaded Program Files and delete rebol /object plugin. go back to the test page. have noticed so far that the bgColor param does not seem to work that well. > > On 13-Mar-04, Josh Mitts wrote: > > > To experience the plugin for yourself, go to: > > > http://www.rebol.net/plugin/tests/test.html > > Is the plugin meant to update automatically? As it didn't for me. > Obviously uninstalling the alpha version and going to the above would > do the job, but is there an easier way? > > -- > Carl Read > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: problems with REBOL/Plugin Beta-1 ?
solved it
turned out that it had not automatically
installed.
> well the new dll seems to function just
the
> same as the old dll for me:
>
> this
>
>
>
>
> function evaluate(code) { return
eval
> (code); }
>
>
>
>
>
>
CODEBASE="http://www.rebol.com/plugin/rebolb1
> cab#Version=0,1,0,0"
> WIDTH="612" HEIGHT="324">
>
>
>
>
>
> and this:
>
> REBOL[
> Title: "rebplugin"
> ]
> loc: do-browser "document.all
> ('REBOL').offsetWidth"
>
>
> view layout[
> text loc
>
> ]
>
> gives the following error:
>
> ** Script Error: do-browser has no value
> ** Near: loc: do-browser "document.all
> ('REBOL').offsetWidth"
> view layout
> >>
>
> now I went to test.html on the rebol.net
> site and it asked me if I wanted to
download
> and install the object, which I did. am
> wondering if my having had the old object
is
> somehow screwing with the new
> installation.
>
>
> --
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[REBOL] problems with REBOL/Plugin Beta-1 ?
well the new dll seems to function just the
same as the old dll for me:
this
function evaluate(code) { return eval
(code); }
http://www.rebol.com/plugin/rebolb1
cab#Version=0,1,0,0"
WIDTH="612" HEIGHT="324">
and this:
REBOL[
Title: "rebplugin"
]
loc: do-browser "document.all
('REBOL').offsetWidth"
view layout[
text loc
]
gives the following error:
** Script Error: do-browser has no value
** Near: loc: do-browser "document.all
('REBOL').offsetWidth"
view layout
>>
now I went to test.html on the rebol.net
site and it asked me if I wanted to download
and install the object, which I did. am
wondering if my having had the old object is
somehow screwing with the new
installation.
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[REBOL] error? try load bad-path
I have a situation where I'm converting a string to a path and loading it, in some situations this string can be a bad path, I want to catch that, so I put in this patherr: error? try[load pass] either patherr = true[ ] [ passlevel: load pass passlevel: to-integer passlevel ] unfortunately in the cases where I pass a bad path I get the following: ** Script Error: Invalid path value: skjjsjnf ** Where: do-boot ** Near: passlevel: to-integer passlevel >> -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: object2XML
> > What do you wish to do with namespaces? They aren't at all as > straightforward as they seem. They get inherited, and the namespace > prefixes can be reused within the nesting of the document all the while > resolving to totally different namespace >URIs. I believe this is what Joe English called psychotic namespacing. i've seen a lot of fucked up xml in my time, it's actually quite rare to see: http://tag.com"; xmlns:t="http://tag.com";> hi http://nottag.com";> hi but it is of course possible, my perspective is to penalize that kind of structure, to optimize for more common structures and hell if it turns out in the middle of analyzing a structure that it is this kind of mess, to restart, so it takes longer, too bad. Also from a namespace point of view the prefix is absolutely meaningless, so one could in fact process the above with a namespace function that if it encountered a prefix the same as one it has encountered before but bound to a different namespace then all it has to do is to autogenerate a prefix, change the value in the block to that prefix, and move on. > The namespace processing, > if it has a chance, should be put into the parser itself and not in > xml-to-object or in some higher level processing. Adding in a namespace > aware SAX2-style handler into parse-xml is IMHO the only workable way to > go. Well I don't agree. for reasons given in other post and this one. -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: object2XML
> > What do you wish to do with namespaces? They aren't at all as > straightforward as they seem. They get inherited, and the namespace > prefixes can be reused within the nesting of the document all the while > resolving to totally different namespace URIs. The namespace processing, > if it has a chance, should be put into the parser itself and not in > xml-to-object or in some higher level processing. Adding in a namespace > aware SAX2-style handler into parse-xml is IMHO the only workable way to > go. I'm talking about having a library of functions that call parse-xml that then do the namespace conformance checking, why would this be a good idea? 1. xml version 1.0 does not have any connection to the namespace specification (there is the following note from the current version of the spec: The Namespaces in XML Recommendation [XML Names] assigns a meaning to names containing colon characters. Therefore, authors should not use the colon in XML names except for namespace purposes, but XML processors must accept the colon as a name character. Which most processors do not accept the colon as a name character without a namespace declaration but as can be seen from the text above that is incorrect), therefore one can in fact have xml documents that have elements called blah:text and have those documents be well-formed, although of course that is not industry standard practice (but if you examine the svg put out by Illustrator, Photoshop etc. you will notice that when an xlink: namespace prefix is used there is no xlink namespace declaration in the document[this of course violates the xlink spec but not the xml spec]). Because of this it might be preferable to layer the namespace handling in such a way that one can build sricter levels of specification(s) conformance. > > Of course it should be noted that the > > namespaces are placed in a block with the > > attributes but I don't think that is a major > > problem although there should of course be > > functions for returning just attributes > > without namespaces. > > > > But that's the thing: namespace declarations *look* like attributes, but > they really aren't as far as XML is concerned. They need to be treated > specially. > hence my making a differentiation between them in my post. Again, to a straight conformant xml 1.0 processor that an attribute is called xmlns:hi means absolutely nothing. To a processor that understands both namespaces and xml 1.0 it does mean something. Therefore, again, I suppose that it is maybe useful to keep namespace handling as functions seperate from parse-xml. > > What I find more irritating is the textnodes: > > > > I have 4 textnodes: > > > > "^/stuff here ^/" > > ["more"] > > "^/" > > and again > > "^/" > > > > now none is used in an empty tag, but "^/" > > is used for any empty textnode, and "^/ > > string^/" seems to be used for any textnode > > that has a sibling node, whereas textnodes > > that are only children are represented as a > > block with one string value. it would > > probably be better to just do that as > > another ["^/string value^/"] > > > > It depends what you want. Dropping any whitespace is a decision that can > only be made by the processing application and not the parser. The > parse-xml+ code has a set of default handlers, but you could choose to > implement your own. xml-to-object is intended to work with "data" styles > of XML and hence whitespace is more easily discarded in such XML without > too much risk. Again that was not what I was complaining about, I found the difference between how a textnode was represented disconcerting for the usage of a more strict parser built on top of parse-xml. It seems to me that "^/string value here" is a reasonable way to signify that a node is a textnode, since an element name can't start with a ^ and one would just not check to see if a node were a textnode or element inside of an attribute block. NOTE: again, this is discussing the possibilty of a generic xml processing library of functions on top of parse-xml. so that you could have a strip-empty-text func that takes an rebolxmldom parameter, and returns the rebolxmldom at the end with all empty textnodes stripped out. > > > > One of the things that should probably be > > considered for any functions for working > > with xml in rebol is optimizations for > > working with various types of xml, for > > example a document like structure such as we > > see above (for which I would say the rule is > > that a document structure has multiple > > textnodes, that an element which has as a > > direct child a textnode and an element is a > > document structure) as opposed to the more > > programmer friendly data type structure: > > > > Agreed, the decisions about "optimizing" have to be done in light of the > type of XML you're processing and at a processing level above the parser,
[REBOL] Re: object2XML
Well I'm reasonably knowledgable in matters of xml usage, etc. although my rebol knowledge is shit, given that I just use it for small scripting hacks here and there if I use gavin's xml-object and a function to clean-up the output a bit: doc-tree: func[unpickedDom][pick third unpickedDom 1] I get >> xmldom: parse-xml read %t.xml XML Version: 1.0 == [document none [["tag" ["r" "here" "xmlns:stuff" "http://www.x.com";] ["^/stuff here ^/" ["stuff:p" ["hi" "test"] [["blah" n one [... >> t: doc-tree xmldom == ["tag" ["r" "here" "xmlns:stuff" "http://www.x.com";] ["^/stuff here ^/" ["stuff:p" ["hi" "test"] [["blah" none ["more" "^/" ... t is actually ["tag" ["r" "here" "xmlns:stuff" "http://www.x.com";] ["^/stuff here ^/" ["stuff:p" ["hi" "test"] [["blah" none ["more" "^/ " ["blah" none none] "^/"]] now in this case I don't think the namespaces are a problem, I don't understand xml-object well enough to know if it fails on namespace problems, but a namespace function could be built easily enough to go through the block getting all referenced namespaces and checking against those references whenever a usage is encountered. Of course it should be noted that the namespaces are placed in a block with the attributes but I don't think that is a major problem although there should of course be functions for returning just attributes without namespaces. What I find more irritating is the textnodes: I have 4 textnodes: "^/stuff here ^/" ["more"] "^/" and again "^/" now none is used in an empty tag, but "^/" is used for any empty textnode, and "^/ string^/" seems to be used for any textnode that has a sibling node, whereas textnodes that are only children are represented as a block with one string value. it would probably be better to just do that as another ["^/string value^/"] One of the things that should probably be considered for any functions for working with xml in rebol is optimizations for working with various types of xml, for example a document like structure such as we see above (for which I would say the rule is that a document structure has multiple textnodes, that an element which has as a direct child a textnode and an element is a document structure) as opposed to the more programmer friendly data type structure: John Simpson > > Hi Robert, > > IMHO for one thing, it is like the "regular expression" (RE) topic which crops up now and then. > > People need an easy migration path. Anyone who has been convinced that xml is the end of the world in ascii data sharing, will be more easily lured if that is more completely supported. > > for myself, I have found xml is nice to support at least on import because many open source and on-line tools use XML as an export format. Things like namespaces, I have read, will obfuscate rebol's xml engine... maybe we are simply lacking in the more advanced features which are getting more common than they used to be... > > I really am not an xml genius, I just noticed that it is a trendy and competent ascii format, maybe if the rest of the world is using it... we should at least support it conveniently so that the phrase: > > "REBOL is the glue that binds things together" > > would hold more meaning with regards to other tools which already expect their data to be bound to other tools... > > maybe the fact that no one has done a complete xml port is that no guru has spent the better part of a month or two to do it. > > My guess is that many would benefit, but not that many are abilitated to actually do it... so they eventually turn to another solution.. > > in the near future, I will have to parse several MBs of textual xml data and I will see at that point how rebol handles it. until then, I'm just an interested reader... > > > cheers! :-) > > > -MAx > --- > "You can either be part of the problem or part of the solution, but in the end, being part of the problem is much more fun." > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Robert M. Münch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 12:47 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [REBOL] Re: object2XML > > > > > > > > On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 18:24:11 -0600, iNetW3 > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Your right about Rebol and XML. I believe sooner or later > > > Carl will either add an xmlparser as a dll or functions to > > > the REBOL exe. The closer they get to an IE plug-in, the > > > more they will see Rebol really needs to deal with xhtml, > > > xml, html, etc. wether they like it or not or people at large will > > > not use it as a first class quick-fix scripting language. > > > > Can you give a use-case for what this is required? Once in a > > while this > > XML thing shows up over and over. If the demand is that high, > > why hasn't > > anyone started to write one? If I use Rebol I only see usage > > for XML for > > import or export. This can be done
[REBOL] Rebol View Distributed Desktop?
I seem to remember that Rebol View Desktop was opened up a while back, so that it was possible to customize the desktop (by which I mean more than just adding colors etc.) is there any documentation on this anywhere? -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: object2XML
well it seems to me that the best solution to that is support for LibXML, LibXSl http://www.xmlsoft.org/ etc. If everything was supported Rebol's xml problems would be over. > Hello T.B., > > Try my quickparser.r script at Rebol.org > Search for *quickparser* > > Your right about Rebol and XML. I believe sooner or later > Carl will either add an xmlparser as a dll or functions to > the REBOL exe. The closer they get to an IE plug-in, the > more they will see Rebol really needs to deal with xhtml, > xml, html, etc. wether they like it or not or people at large will > not use it as a first class quick-fix scripting language. > > Wich will kill rebol as a solution, it will be fragmented(IE), > and made into a nice but unpractical toy. > - Original Message - > From: T. Brownell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 2:04 AM > Subject: [REBOL] Simple XML > > > > > > XML can be both simple and complex. This site is devoted to the creation > > of the necessary tools and docs to make the complex simple too using > Rebol. > > > > http://compkarori.com/vanilla/display/Simple+ XML > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] RebolView/DLL experiments
So in my continuing experiments with the RebolView/DLL I found the following: RebolView/DLL will run in ActiveDesktop, it will run in Internet Explorer, if a plugin running in IE crashes no other plugin will run in IE until IE is shutdown, but ActiveDesktop running plugins will run. RebolView/DLL will run in an explorer bar, I am however having trouble thinking of any reasonable use for an explorer bar rebol script as it isn't possible to pass context from the browser main window to the plugin (although I was thinking it would be possible to have a simple text db that the the bar passed info to via javascript, that the referenced rebol script could access and see what to do) here's an stupid scripting trick for ya: running a rebol script in an explorer bar that consists of browse url will open a new instance of IE with the explorer bar open, in which case the script gets called again and opens a new instance of IE with the explorer bar open, and so on and so on :) A plugin in a webview .htt file crashes, this by the way confirms again my earlier post as to how the crash of a RebolView/DLL only effects instances of the plugin running on the same thread, as when a webview crashes it also crashes ActiveDesktop, but instances of IE can still run the plugin with no problem. As it turns out the error in a webview hosting of plugin seems basically to be the security settings, given the following error message: ** Access Error: Cannot open /C/projects/tests/files2 r ** Near: do/args script system/script/args quit >> anyway, i think what I would like most for the RebolView/DLL would be an extra optional parameter, that would be accessible from the script as its arguments, in that way there could be at least one way communication from the brower to the plugin. -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: Wake up ;-)
I'm supposing this is dependent on the TEMP environment variable, so on a winNT system and I guess windows ME and up it would be going to %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temp > > On 03-Mar-04, Carl Read wrote: > > > On 03-Mar-04, Bruno G. Albuquerque wrote: > > >> Well, I didn't. I still can't use it. > > >> Anyway, the plugins install itself in "C:\WINNT\Downloaded Internet > >> Files" (at least on my configuration) but there is no config file > >> for it or anything. > > > C:\WINDOWS\Downloaded Program Files > > > for me on Win98se. I had no problems getting the plugin installed > > and running using IE5. > > For those who may not have figured it out, files saved from a reblet > go to C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\REBOL\Plugin (on my Win98 box, anyway.) > > -- > Carl Read > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: Async:// loss of xml
well the first thing i'd check with any xml problem is the encoding. can you make your client save it as it gets it, then try to run the saved xml through a compliant parser? > > With other non async examples of using tcp, I was able to send the > following xml tags to a client with no problem... > > "somemore" > > But now with async:// the string is arriving in it's entirety, but my > client is choking on the second tag? Could this have something to do > with binary? > > Terry > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: Help with HTTP protocol
> Hey ! That's "human readable" METAR data ! > Once upon a time, I made a little REBOL app to parse METAR and TAF data > and transform them into readable text. > It's still available at : (if the free.fr web servers can be accessed ;o) > http://brunobord.free.fr/ressources/fairebo.z ip > User manual, in french : > http://brunobord.free.fr/fairebo_u.php > or in english : > http://brunobord.free.fr/fairebo_u.php? lang=en > > hey thanks, I was actually thinking about building a METAR parser now it looks like I won't need to. -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: rebol/viewDLL problems
oh it works fine in Active Desktop, IE's rendering engine is pretty tightly wound in all sorts of strange places in windows. > > Hello! > > Re. closing the console window in the plugin. This does currently cause > REBOL to die. We know about this bug and are looking into it. > > As far as Active Desktop goes, we haven't looked into this yet. We're > currently only supporting IE as a browser. > > Thanks! > > Josh Mitts > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:rebol- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 2:03 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [REBOL] rebol/viewDLL problems > > One thing I noticed yesterday when playing > around, if I started a html file that > referred to a .r file that had an error via > the plugin a shell with the name > Rebol/ViewDll came up - sure others have > seen this already by now - I closed the > shell, from then on in until I had closed > every instance of my browser the plugin did > not work. I checked my processes to see if > this shell was running somewhere in the > background but I couldn't see any reference > to it. As soon as I fixed the problem, > closed all my browsers (suppose this doesn't > matter if one is running a Windows Shell > where each instance of IE is running on its > own thread, but most people ain't) and > restarted the html file, the plugin worked > on all example pages I had of it. > > okay that was interesting, hope that gets > fixed. > > So then one of the things I thought this > might be interesting for is to have Rebol > integrated pages as ActiveDesktop items. I > created a quick activeDesktop html page, I > went ahead and put in my object tag and set > the LaunchURL param to refer to a file via > an absolute path (windows path) this didn't > work, neither did referring to it via a > file:// url, or a rebol path. Has anyone got > this to work with a file path? > This by the way seems to confirm that a > failed plugin page won't cause other proper > plugin pages to stop working if run on a > different thread, as checking various web > browser plugins worked fine. I did get the > activeDesktop plugin working fine, but only > by moving the referenced .r file to the same > folder as my activeDesktop item. > > I suppose the best thing to actually have > running as an activeDesktop would be a > modified view Desktop. > > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: Help with HTTP protocol
I think if what you want is to screen-scrape weather info you would probably do better by going to NOAA, for example http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/SBCF. html for belo horizonte. from looking at the site you were scraping before I think they buy their data from some place like this: http://www.views.com.au/weathersystem/index.c fm which is no doubt getting the data free from some government service somewhere. -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: Help with HTTP protocol
just looking at it quickly I think the redirection you're going through is because the page is trying to set a cookie. I don't know if anyone has done anything to get rebol to read and accept cookies, probably not, If I remember correctly cURL does this, and someone suggested you try cURl recently. Then again as was also pointed out the site uses a lot of javascript, a lot, and it ain't pretty either, I don't think you're gonna get this site with rebol, because as was pointed out Rebol doesn't have a javascript interpreter. > > Hi Sunanda, > > Thanks for you help but it does not work for me. > > Is there anything else that could be done in order > to let the host "think" I am using a browser and not REBOL? > > The thing is that with a browser I can read the URL with no problem at all. > > It's the first time that REBOL cannot read an URL for me :( > > CArlos > > > Em Quinta 04 Março 2004 16:57, you wrote: > > Carlos: > > > Now It seems my script is beeing redirected to another page by the guys > > > at Weather.Com. > > > > > > My question is: is there a way to ask REBOL to present himself as a > > > webbrowser > > > to a certain host? I ask you this because the url above > > > (http://br.weather.com/weather/tenday/BRXX288 8) still works with the > > > > browser > > > > They may be sniffing you as being non-IE and deliberately victimising you. > > > > Try this: > > system/schemes/http/user- agent: "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows > > NT 5.0)" > > > > Sunanda. > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: testing async://
> Remember that async is >officially not supported, so these side- >effects may occur. whoa, I hope you mean not officially supported as opposed to officially not supported! ;) sorry, just struck me as funny wording, like the absolute last thing one wanted to here about a product or feature. -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] desktop diff between rebol view and Rebol/ViewDll
noticed there was a significant difference between the word desktop in Rebol/View and Rebol/ViewDll Rebol/View >> source desktop desktop: func [][ if block? ctx-viewtop [ctx-viewtop: context ctx-viewtop] ctx-viewtop/init-desktop do-events ] > Rebol/ViewDll >> source desktop desktop: func [url [url! file! any-type!]][ system/options/quiet: true if block? ctx-viewtop [ctx-viewtop: context ctx-viewtop] ctx-viewtop/init-desktop if value? 'url [ctx-viewtop/show- folder :url] do-events] -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] rebol/viewDLL problems
One thing I noticed yesterday when playing around, if I started a html file that referred to a .r file that had an error via the plugin a shell with the name Rebol/ViewDll came up - sure others have seen this already by now - I closed the shell, from then on in until I had closed every instance of my browser the plugin did not work. I checked my processes to see if this shell was running somewhere in the background but I couldn't see any reference to it. As soon as I fixed the problem, closed all my browsers (suppose this doesn't matter if one is running a Windows Shell where each instance of IE is running on its own thread, but most people ain't) and restarted the html file, the plugin worked on all example pages I had of it. okay that was interesting, hope that gets fixed. So then one of the things I thought this might be interesting for is to have Rebol integrated pages as ActiveDesktop items. I created a quick activeDesktop html page, I went ahead and put in my object tag and set the LaunchURL param to refer to a file via an absolute path (windows path) this didn't work, neither did referring to it via a file:// url, or a rebol path. Has anyone got this to work with a file path? This by the way seems to confirm that a failed plugin page won't cause other proper plugin pages to stop working if run on a different thread, as checking various web browser plugins worked fine. I did get the activeDesktop plugin working fine, but only by moving the referenced .r file to the same folder as my activeDesktop item. I suppose the best thing to actually have running as an activeDesktop would be a modified view Desktop. -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: Wake up ;-)
> What could this plug-in be useful for? Please note this is not sticking a > knife into Rebol's back, I had the same question for Java applets as well! > 1. Well if it's an ActiveXObject it should be usable from within any OLE container right? Microsoft Word, PowerPoint Presentations, as well as Internet Explorer. note: This actually simplifies a host of things I wanted to do to integrate explorer with IE, I'm hoping that I can build a complete sample over the weekend. 2. One common usage of a lot of firms is IE as an interface, using the webbrowser control. Wrapping the webbrowser control an application and using it as the interface for your application, you can define new functions in language X that your interface can call, thus you can use html's layout capabilities, all other capabilities of the browser to host activeX objects such as this one, and call external arguments. The app can also access the html dom and change things, so for example the wrapping application could access a tag, such as the object tag, and change what .r file was being called by that tag. -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] small xml functions
So I was working on doing a few little xml- parse additions, enhancements, etc. and I was starting on a documentElement function: documentElement: func[blockdom] [currentNode: make Object![tagname: pick blockdom 1 attributes: either block? pick blockdom 2 [length? pick blockdom 2][0] ]] and it struck me that my idea of how I would go after the attributes is undoubtedly wrong; I was thinking that what I wanted was to do stuff like either currentNode/attributes > 0 [ ;search for specific attribute and value goes here ][;go next tag] the question is how should the attributes be organized, should they be as a single block as they are now, should they be divided into two words att-names: which holds the names of the attributes, and att-values: which hold the values of the attributes. Of course there also has to be some pre- sorting to remove namespace declarations from attributes but that's not a biggie. I think I would prefer to do found? currentNode/att-names "class" to skipping through a block, but then others might not. Any ideas? -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: Check email syntax
> Notice that: > > >> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > == [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> email/user > == r3b0l > >> email/host > == free.fr heh, just struck me that this is a quick hack to do name value pairings. what if you had a block of 'addresses'? (not at home so I can't start rebol right now) -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: [OT] DNS problems?
no, but an tertiary topic to your off-topic, the following resource: http://dnsmon.ripe.net > > Hi Rebolers, > > this is a highly offtopic message, but I think my got some DNS Server > problems here, last week I wasn't able to reach some sites available > before (and now again), but some sites still can't be found (for example > http://www.payingfast.com/ ) does anyone know the IP address of a > ameserver off the top of his head? I'd like to add it to my DNS servers > and see if it works. > > > Thanks, > > Ingo > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: [OT] DNS problems?
no, but an tertiary topic to your off-topic, the following resource: http://dnsmon.ripe.net > > Hi Rebolers, > > this is a highly offtopic message, but I think my got some DNS Server > problems here, last week I wasn't able to reach some sites available > before (and now again), but some sites still can't be found (for example > http://www.payingfast.com/ ) does anyone know the IP address of a > ameserver off the top of his head? I'd like to add it to my DNS servers > and see if it works. > > > Thanks, > > Ingo > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: db/file storage .... (was) Re: Re: ANN: RebDB Pseudo-Relational
> 1) File Managers (most of them imo, and >no - Explorer is NOT file > manager, it is a joke!) treat archive >files as ordinary directories. Explorer is not a file manager, it is the windows shell. as such you can extend it via namespaces: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp ?url=/library/en- us/shellcc/platform/shell/programmersguide/sh ell_adv/namespaceextension/namespace.asp to give yourself the file management capabilities you want for example. -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: starting to be really late!?
question on rebol and .net, IIRC Rebol is written in ANSI C right? So I'm wondering what compiler is used to build Rebol, if it's lcc then maybe Rebol Technologies could use lcc.net the lcc msil backend? from Microsoft Research. > > Karl wrote: > > So I am consigned to use Rebol for various utilities where I can - things > like A J Martin's C# code generator. > > If you want a copy, just email me. It's not in the library, because I'm > expanding it frequently. > > -- > Andrew J Martin > Speaking in tongues and performing miracles. > ICQ: 26227169 > http://www.rebol.it/Valley/ > http://valley.orcon.net.nz/ > http://Valley.150m.com/ > -><- > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] accessing objects dynamic paths
when you convert a string path to an actual path and attempt to access an object with it: example: >> password: make object! [jj: ["bryan" "0"]] >> password/jj == ["bryan" "0"] >> tstring: "password/jj" == "password/jj" >> tstring: to-path tstring == password/jj >> tstring ** Internal Error: ** Script Error: password is not defined in this cont ext ** Near: arg1 you get the error as shown here that the name of your object is not defined in the context. Does anyone know of a way around this? -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: robots.txt
thanks :) > > Hi > > You'll find a script to handle robots.txt files on my site: > http://folk.uio.no/hallvary/rebol/ > > Hope this helps, > Hallvard > -- > Prætera censeo Carthaginem esse delendam > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: css vs View (VID) compositing? (was) Re: Re: page-breaks in html or pdf?
> > > > OTOH - studying css docs for one day I have to say that it is way more > > > complicated than View. Maybe just a question of becoming used to > > > different concept? What do others think? > well styling in View always struck me as a weak css, then again I don't tend to use Rebol for GUI building but more shell scripting. > CSS has the huge advantage of being widely used and documented - books > tutorials communities. > Alas, most of the early confusion around CSS stems from browser wars and > version/feature cross-fire cross-platform trickiness. Most of that is behind > us now. CSS also has the advantage as being usable for styling in other technologies than html, for example styling xml documents, styling svg, and is the basis for numerous styling solutions in markup, for example Open Office. -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] robots.txt
I've never had to realy take robots.txt into consideration before, as any site crawling I've ever done has been in secluded sites that I knew the structure of. It seems from my understanding that google uses a system of robots, the first robot checks for robots.txt, makes decisions based on what it finds, contacts other robots to do realy work. This strikes me as a reasonable way to proceed, does anyone have any counter recommendations. Also anyone have a robots.txt to object script out there already? -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: Send/attach
> > > > So parts of REBOL are written in...REBOL! Those RT guys are quite the > > hackers. > > > > Eventually RT should mention that more? > right, at least part of rebol is improvable source :) -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] json
http://www.crockford.com/JSON/index.html in our continuing permathread on integrating Rebol with other systems etc. take a look at json. -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: shell32 rebol pro?
well I was thinking of that as a possible future project, first to collate all functions already mapped, then to map the rest of them, I found your implementation of drag+drop, although I couldn't get it to work earlier at work (will look at it again in the morning) and I found someone's implementation of ShellExecuteA, not sure if that's yours or someone elses. haven't check it out yet. Of course once one has ShellExecuteA a lot of the other functions can be faked. for example the methods of the Shell object. > > Hi Bryan, > > b> Did anyone ever do anything for calling shell32 with Rebol? > > Do you mean calling *any* function in shell32.dll or calling a > particular function (i.e. ShellExecuteA)? > > Yes on the former, and "maybe" on the latter. :) That is, I haven't > mapped *all* the functions in shell32, but I have done some. > > -- Gregg > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: creating a shortcut
well I'm supposing AltME is written in the
rebol sdk version so it's probably using
IShellLink, however the following hack might
also be a solution, this should work on
windows 98 on up:
cShortcut: {[InternetShortcut]
URL=file:///c:\
Modified=9088F98B4E9EC3014C}
write %test.url cShortcut
by the way this can be used with that nifty
asynchronous pluggable protocol thingee to
write clickable scripts all over (just
saying.) :)
I'm not sure what the modified value is for
in the url format so I just copied from
something on my system. you might want to
find out what it means.
>
> Well the thing is AltME (for example)
does this in REBOL so it is
> possible in a way that it runs on all
platforms.
>
> Sigh.
>
> --Maarten
>
> Gregg Irwin wrote:
>
> > Hi Bryan,
> >
> > b> since this is all done through the
registry you should be able to handle
> > b> it from rebol/view pro and higher I
think (isn't there a registry
> > b> dialect out there somewhere?)
> >
> > Yeah, the problem is that anytime MS
provides an interface, like
> > IShellLink, for doing this kind of thing
and you circumvent it by
> > going directly to the registry, you can
end up making a lot more work
> > for yourself. e.g. sometimes different
Windows versions do things
> > differently, so you need to find out
what version you're on etc. I'm
> > not sure in this case though.
> >
> > -- Gregg
> >
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[REBOL] Re: Interesting Article on repurposing software
why do you think that Rebol could be really good at this (really good implying to me better than at other things, and better than other tools)? > > Hi All, > > Seeing as how this is something REBOL could be really good at, and > something I'm interested in... > > http://www.e4engineering.com/item.asp? id=50283 > > --Gregg > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: 'ML problem with literal quotation marks
one not very happy solution would be the
usage of " if ML (hard to remember)
allows the passage of entities.
>
> * Andrew Martin
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17:31]:
> >
> > Hi, Tim.
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > That email address no longer exists!
> >
> > Try one of these:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Or at work:
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>
> Sorry! Used the one from ML.r. Will
change.
>
> > Tim wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The content as viewed in the browser
does not show {"boo-boo"} (with
> > or without the literal quotes)
> >
> > That's because the browser interprets
the "input" tag like this:
> > input type="text"
name="testing" value=""
> > In other words, the "value" attribute is
an empty string, which is why
> > the browser doesn't show {"boo-boo"}.
>
> I understand...
>
> > There's also a fault in my ML dialect,
as I never considered that people
> > might want to display text with double
quote marks. My ML dialect (or
> > maybe Build-Tag dialect) should check
every string! attribute value and
> > 'escape' any double quote marks inside
(so that people don't have to
> > worry about this.
>
> I would prefer that people didn't use
them. Currently what I'm doing
> is just eliminating them, however, sooner
or later some user is going
> to insist on it.
>
> Let me know when you have a solution.
> thanks
> tim
>
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[REBOL] Re: rebol,erlang,yaws
well i'm not gonna be in the office until at
least monday, maybe longer depending on how
I feel (had a little knee operation
yesterday, everything went fine but sort of
tired out) the stuff I've done so far is
pretty simple:
1. I took my asynchronous pluggable
protocols article concept -
http://www.devx.com/webdev/Article/17120?
trk=DXRSS_WEBDEV and expanded it (fixed some
of the shoddy code that was for newbies to
follow, all those joins) so that the reb://
protocol has a format of reb://{metadata
comes here}/protocol body comes here. The
metadata in between the second and third /
contains among other things the possibility
of passing a password, if this password
matches a system saved password the code
gets evaluated straight off without going to
the form, I am currently working on a
similar protocol for erlang. Of course the
problem with this is that one opens new
instances of one's script via this method,
although with Erlang this may be soluble.
2. I have been working on trying to get joe
armstrongs client/server tutorial on erlang
and c working together
http://www.sics.se/~joe/tutorials/client_serv
er/client_server.html to go with rebol and
erlang working together. the most reasonable
goal I see is to get gabriele's async-
protocol to work with it.
Somewhat difficult as I this falls under
research not job related, although part of
my job is pretty much research but I do
sometimes feel guilty taking off from my
main goals.
I figure at some point I will hopefully get
an insight (just because I'm one of those
guys who tends to stumble to a particular
place, and then everything goes really
smooth after that), and a combination of 1
and 2 becomes possible.
>
> Hi Bryan,
> just installed erlang and yaws, speed is
impressive!
>
> I'm really interested in getting yaws and
rebol to talk togheter.
> So if you don't mind I would appreciate
any work you have done in this area.
> Are you using async rugby?
>
> Thanks a lot and have a nice day.
>
> Will Arp
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> [15.10.2003 11:48 "bryan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > Actually one of the side projects I have
at home is communicating
> > between erlang and rebol in various
ways, as I find the languages
> > complementary.
> >
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[REBOL] Re: Rebol# or Rebol on DotNET
I'm home right now with a fever, so I'm just gonna give a quick note of the fact that it is possible to use regular expressions inside of xml schema as well, as an extension of strings. However schema usage can be somewhat different than programmatic usage as you don't have the possibility of matching, matching again, checking against the results of two matches before you apply match three. Again the schema usage only seems to me like it would be useful in the context of consuming rebol as an xml provider. > > bryan wrote: > > then one can use xml schema to define rebol datatypes, don't much care > for xml schema, but the .Net implementation is actually useful, > especially as one can do runtime translation between xml schema > datatypes and .net datatypes. > > At the moment, I'm using .NET Regular Expressions to parse out R# (and > Rebol) data types, as .NET will compile these regexp is native code upon > loading (and I've got a good tutorial on Regexp in the PERL > documentation). If you could provide XML schema definitions and a way to > map on .NET regexp or some other way to map rebol values into .NET > datatypes, I'll happily include them into R#. > > > > One of the things I've thought about is if it were possible to consume > a rebol script as an xml provider: > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/01/0 9/xml/default.aspx > > Hmmm, how would we represent something like: > 12.5% > or: > print > or: > USD$123.45 > or: > £12.34 ; British Pounds & Pence. > ? > > Block! values are sort of easy enough: > ; Or some other tag name? > ; blah blah > > > Andrew J Martin > Attendance Officer > & Grail Jedi. > Colenso High School > Arnold Street, Napier. > Tel: 64-6-8310180 ext 826 > Fax: 64-6-8336759 > http://colenso.net/scripts/Wiki.r?AJM > http://www.colenso.school.nz/ > > DISCLAIMER: Colenso High School and its Board of Trustees is not responsible (or legally > liable) for materials distributed to or acquired from user e-mail accounts. You can report any > misuse of an e-mail account to our ICT Manager and the complaint will be investigated. > (Misuse can come in many forms, but can be viewed as any material sent/received that > indicate or suggest pornography, unethical or illegal solicitation, racism, sexism, inappropriate > language and/or other issues described in our Acceptable Use Policy.) > > All outgoing messages are certified virus- free by McAfee GroupShield Exchange 5.10.285.0 > Phone: +64 6 843 5095 or Fax: +64 6 833 6759 or E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: Newbie expression question
> >are equivalent, so why is it that so many of us have learned to >feel more comfortable with > >foo > 100 > >than > >100 < foo > >in our programs? Is it because our "natural language" habits make >us subconsciously think of the expresson (s) above as being more >about FOO as the subject of the sentence, rather than about the >relationship between two equally- important values? I think it's because with foo you've assigned a value to something, in doing so you are implicitly stating that foo is the more important element. I may also be wrong about this but it seems to me that with iterative languages it's a little more natural to use >, and with functional languages a little more natural to test if the value is <. This is probably just a habit I have, but with recursion I tend to subtract (I don't know why, but I've noticed it). So you have a greater feeling of naturalness in your example because the first element is one assigned a value by the programmer, whereas the second is intrinsically valued. If one had foo > bar and foo < bar then I start thinking, we're gonna be looping, and we're gonna be recursing in turn, and the naturalness of the examples depends on how I think of using the language. This however is probably a really weird personal idiosyncracy. -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: pleac
damn. they should do it free as in beer then
it could be for rebol/core.
>
> PLEAC says this in their FAQ.
>
> { 9. I'd like to contribute to Pleac using
this particular compiler/library
> Great!
>
> But, please double-check that this
compiler/library is released under a free
> (as explained by GNU, not free of charge)
license, as we won't accept code
> only usable under a non-free OS/compiling
environment. }
>
> Could that be why we don't see rebol on
the list?
> What do you think?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 9:36 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [REBOL] pleac
>
>
>
> Anyone seen this before,
http://pleac.sourceforge.net/ PLEAC -
Programming
> Language Examples Alike Cookbook. No rebol
entry sadly.
>
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[REBOL] Re: pleac
here for example is the Perl side for internet services: http://pleac.sourceforge.net/pleac_perl/inter netservices.html could just go out to the library and cut and paste about 90% of these. > On 11-Oct-03, bryan wrote: > > > Anyone seen this before, http://pleac.sourceforge.net/ PLEAC - > > Programming Language Examples Alike Cookbook. No rebol entry sadly. > > Okay rebolers, there's a challenge for you. How quickly can you get > REBOL to near the top of the list? Which currently is... > > perl, 100.00% done > python, 48.57% done > ruby, 44.43% done > guile, 30.00% done > merd, 28.86% done > ada, 26.00% done > haskell, 20.86% done > tcl, 20.71% done > java, 14.00% done > pliant, 9.43% done > ocaml, 7.86% done > commonlisp, 6.29% done > c++, 3.43% done > pike, 2.00% done > erlang, 1.86% done > forth, 1.71% done > php, 1.43% done > masd, 0.57% done > nasm, 0.29% done > > REBOL's supposed to be nice and quick, right? Can you prove it? > > -- > Carl Read > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: pleac
well the interesting thing might be in what subject areas for each language are mainly implemented. if you look at python for example 0% of pattern matching is implemented, in fact I don't think any of the languages complete pattern matching except for Perl, 0% of internet services and 0% sockets are implemented. 100% of Numbers and so forth: http://pleac.sourceforge.net/pleac_python/t1. html This might also better demonstrate the right tool for the job principle. Of course another problem is programmer time. As it follows the Perl cookbook that's the one which will have 100% done (pissy comments removed on second-thought.) > > On 11-Oct-03, bryan wrote: > > > Anyone seen this before, http://pleac.sourceforge.net/ PLEAC - > > Programming Language Examples Alike Cookbook. No rebol entry sadly. > > Okay rebolers, there's a challenge for you. How quickly can you get > REBOL to near the top of the list? Which currently is... > > perl, 100.00% done > python, 48.57% done > ruby, 44.43% done > guile, 30.00% done > merd, 28.86% done > ada, 26.00% done > haskell, 20.86% done > tcl, 20.71% done > java, 14.00% done > pliant, 9.43% done > ocaml, 7.86% done > commonlisp, 6.29% done > c++, 3.43% done > pike, 2.00% done > erlang, 1.86% done > forth, 1.71% done > php, 1.43% done > masd, 0.57% done > nasm, 0.29% done > > REBOL's supposed to be nice and quick, right? Can you prove it? > > -- > Carl Read > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: The needs that Rebol answers
> > Hi Bryan. > > bryan wrote: > > >Since Rebol is written in ANSI C can one, with the sdk version, use > >parsers written in ANSI C? > > > On Linux the sdk offers an interface to shared libraries, DLLs are > supported under MS Windows. > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > do the shared libraries on Unix have to be ANSI C? -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: rebol plugins
well an xml file in Internet Explorer has its intrinsic handling done via an wd-xsl file inside of the msxml.dll as a resource. This generates a dynamic html page which shows the treeview you get when you double click and open an xml file, an xml file in mozilla has not intrinsic display on it. There is really no way to associate a plugin with xml, there is however ways to associate plugins with html and xhtml as I discussed in the earlier mail. The documents could be xhtml and still work with the plugin, the plugin architecture however should most probably not be that which it was before, as that falls under the eolas patent, I think the dynamic behaviors model which I pointed out, which is of course IE specific but of which a similar solution can be implemented for Mozilla, does not seem to me to fall under the eolas patent; however I am not 100% certain about that since it still requires a reference to an external object on the page to interpret the inline markup. At any rate as there has been discussion on list before about the following things: 1. extending Rebol to interact with browsers and OS 2. serializing rebol scripts to some xml dialect, so that they could be more easily consumed as data in other environments. 3. The current thread on c# in which I point to the CodeDom, I am familiar with some work that has allowed for generation of an xml dialect of the CodeDom which can be compiled to various .Net languages; c#, vb.net, J#, unfortunately jscript.net seems to have problems with the format. > > Hmm... I wonder since xml seems to be supported everywhere with these > browsers then why can't an rebol plugin be made that gets launched via xml? > > Paul Tretter > > - Original Message - > From: "bryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 8:23 AM > Subject: [REBOL] Re: rebol plugins > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Interesting. > > >How portable is DHTML, do you know? > > >Is it an open standard, I mean? > > > > Sorry about the long time between replying. > > > > DHTML is generally used to refer to the usage of several complementary > > technologies, Html 4.0, CSS, and Javascript (ecmascript). > > > > So while Microsoft might claim DHTML as theirs, the term is also used > > for Dynamic (client-side) Html as used in Mozilla for example. > > > > As a general rule these technologies are a lot of bother to try to make > > work cross-browser. Hence the continuing reliance on server side > > technologies. > > > > The Microsoft dynamic behaviors are totally Microsoft specific, however > > syntactically they share a similarity with xml namespaces which are > > standardized. > > > > An html document using inline svg interpreted via a dynamic behavior > > will have a syntax as follows: > > > > http://www.w3.org/2000/svg";> > > > CLASSID="clsid:78156a80-c6a1-4bbf-8e6a- 3cd390eeb4e2" > > style="display:none;"/> > > > > > > > > > > an svg graphic > > http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink"; width="200px" > > height="200px" viewBox="0 0 200 200"> > > > > > > > > the thing about this is that Mozilla understands xml namespaces and one > > can write code for Mozilla that interprets a particular namespace, the > > > instruction (an instruction passed up to the processing application) as > > such it is ignored by browsers that don't understand the particular > > instruction. > > > > So although there would have to be an implementation of the interpreter > > for various browsers supported, the markup syntax used in these various > > browsers shouldn't cause any problem. > > > > The main thing is that the earlier Rebol plugin is definitely not good > > under the eolas patent, and that it seems to me that integration with > > the browser is an area that in the case of Windows leads to closer > > integration with the system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.516 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/2003 > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: .Net C# and Rebol
> It might even be possible for the C# client to understand Rebol/IOS, > perhaps? > Well if you had a rebol script for generating/consuming at least some msil then you should be at the first step of working with .Net: as per Mercury: http://www.cs.mu.oz.au/research/mercury/maili ng-lists/mercury-developers/mercury- developers.0009/0268.html however for making interactions between .Net and other languages I prefer CodeDom: http://www.15seconds.com/issue/020917.htm http://www.mondrian- script.org/codedom/index.html -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
