[recoznet2] CANDIAN RULING UNRAVELS HOLD ON INDIGENOUS LAND - Fishing Rights in Eastern Canada

1999-10-13 Thread ozi

MNN Mohawk Nation News.  Kahnawake of Mohawk Territory.  8 Oct. 99.  The
following article appeared in the Montreal Gazette on Thursday October 7th
1999.

FISHING RULING HELPS DESTROY WHITE MAN’S MYTH
by Kenneth Deer

The Supreme Court’s decision to uphold a 1760 treaty between the king of
England and the Micmac in Nova Scotia is a small but important step in the
unraveling of Canada’s illegal hold on indigenous peoples’ land and
resources.

What the Supreme Court did was recognize that a treaty was a binding legal
instrument that should be interpreted using the written text of the
document as well as the negotiating records that led to its signing.  This
allowed for the inclusion of the Micmac concerns to be considered even if
they were not in the final draft of the treaty since it was the British who
wrote the text and most likely left the Micmac concerns out of the treaty.

However, the judgment is still short of the principles outlined in the
United Nations Study on Treaties, Agreements and Other Constructive
Arrangements between States and Indigenous Populations.

The study, written by international law professor Miguel Alphonso Martinex
of Cuba, a member of the Sub-Commission on the Prevention of Discrimination
and Protection of Minorities, reached some very important
conclusions.

First of all, indigenous peoples have a right to their lands and their
resources and to continue engaging, unmolested, in their traditional
economic activities on these lands; and that indigenous peoples have a
right to self-determination as do all peoples on  Earth.

The study recalls that treaties are made between nations.  Treaties
concluded between states and indigenous peoples have the same weight and
legal status as any other treaty.  States knew when they signed those
treaties that they were dealing with sovereign nations and recognized them
as such as the time.  Only nations can sign treaties, and states knew that
at the time of entering into treaties with indigenous peoples.  They cannot
say therefore that such treaties are internal or
domestic treaties.  There is no basis in law for domestic treaties.
Countries like Canada and the United States try to portray their treaties
with indigenous peoples as domestic agreements.

All treaties are international in scope and therefore should be dealt with
accordingly.

The study also recalls that treaties are not what makes indigenous peoples
sovereign.  Treaties just confirm that states recognize their sovereignty.
Just because some indigenous peoples did not sign treaties does not mean
they are not sovereign.

The conclusions of the UN study dismantle the premise of European dominance
over the indigenous peoples of the Americas.  It’s a concept that shakes
the Canadian establishment to its roots.

That is what is happening today.  With Micmac people fishing off the east
coast, Salish people logging on the west coast, Mohawks servicing Internet
gaming, the Canadian establishment is running scared. Fishermen and loggers
are committing violence against Indians, newspapers are writing articles,
columns and editorials questioning the activities of Indians, and the
federal cabinet is considering legislation to negate a Supreme Court
decision upholding a treaty with the Micmac.  Canada must be shaking in its
boots.

Canada was built on the premise that the white man was dominant over the
people who were already here; that, somehow, God had anointed them with the
right to own all the land and resources through the divine right of kings;
that these transplanted Europeans would rule over the very lives of the
indigenous peoples in North America.

This is the myth that the white man has used to steal the Western
Hemisphere.  Now that myth is slowly disintegrating.

The courts, long the upholders of the myth, are now re-evaluating and
changing the old, racist concepts.  Even if the courts are only going part
of the way, it is enough to make the entire society panic.

Canada’s "just society" is not so just and it is just seeing the tip of the
iceberg at the cost of delaying justice to the indigenous peoples in
Canada.  The loggers, fishermen, columnists and government can all
complain about what the country did to the indigenous peoples.  Now they
are paying the price.

PRESENT SITUATION.  The Mi’kmaq, Maliseet and Passamaquoddy People need
your help.  They have vowed to exercise their inherent powers and confirmed
legal right by going out on the water to fish.  The government
is standing by and the police to watch as non-natives attack the Indian
people and damage their property in violation of the ruling.  They are
asking native and non-native supporters to come to Burnt Church New
Brunswick to keep the peace and protect them from organized mob rule. 

The mobs have desecrated Indian property and sacred sites, burnt native
boats, destroyed lobster traps and have beaten up native people.  Please
contact the people listed below immediately with advice and support;
contact Canadian P

Re: [recoznet2] reconcilliation

1999-08-16 Thread ozi

Peter, you have put forward a view which I've long wondered about, asking
myself the question, "But what does "reconciliation" really mean and why
would the true People of this land *want* to be reconciled; what are they
being reconciled *to*?".  

I guess to me reconciliation means - or at least I *hope* it means - white
Australia coming at last to an understanding of the truths of the past and
an absolute acceptance, deep respect for and protection of the rights of
the People to be in their own traditional ways, as well as respecting and
protecting the traditional cultures, the connection to the land and all
that is, and doing all possible to ensure the wellbeing of the People and
the land for ever and always.  

Not having heard of any moves to "appropriate indigenous spirituality" as
being considered part of the "reconciliation process", I would be
interested to hear/read more about that ... and most certainly, Peter, I
agree with your comment on that.  Respecting the traditional ways,
spirituality, rights, etc of the People of this land is surely not in
having non-indigenous Australians become "wannabe Aborigines".


Neshoba



At 08:09 AM 8/17/99 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi to all in the group and thanks for your postings. Just have a couple of
>thoughts to put up and see if they get any response. Interested in how
>people feel about this.
>I have spent the last ten years working in australia on community
>development and justice and equity projects and am wondering if we, as a
>nation are not headed in the wrong direction on Reconciliation. I was with
>a Tiwi lady last week who asked if I really expected her to be reconciled
>with the "mainstream" culture in Australia. I have to admit that this set
>me back a little. After a few minutes thinking about my and my families
>history at the hands of "white" australia i agreed with her that it would
>be foolish. A bit like going to bed with a known rapist and hoping that
>they will change because we are nice!
>
>Should not our efforts be instead based on reforming white society instead. 
>I am not refering, here, to trying to reform the racist and brutal areas of
>politics, but of going behind that to the root causes of our racism. I
>believe that in a very real sense the brutality of what has happened to
>anglo-celts and other forced migrants including european POW's has left a
>deep scar on our psyche.
>The divorce from "our home lands" has in many ways crippled us spiritually.
>And our Kurri, Murri and TI Friends are right to say that it is the land
>that nurtures us.
>
>Should we, as people who believe in a just society, be working towards
>reconciling, white australia to its own lack of spirituality.  My belief is
>that we as a group should ?perhaps? focus on developing an indigenous
>"white" spirituality. While this may sound crazy i am 8th generation
>Australian and while i, personally, feel a deep connection with the land, i
>dont feel that it would be appropriate to apropriate Indigenous spirituality.
>
>I put this forward because i am no longer sure of my position on
>"Reconciliation," at least as it stands now.
>


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Re: [recoznet2] Some events with a mainly South Oz flavour

1999-08-12 Thread ozi

Dean, it's great to have such a list posted ... thanks!

Anyone in other states able to post similar listings??


Neshoba

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Re: [recoznet2] Fwd: Conference on Correctional services and Indigenous people

1999-08-12 Thread ozi

Dean are you - or is anyone else out there - going to be attending this
conference?  If so, would it be possible to perhaps do so reporting on
findings etc??

Thanks!


Neshoba



At 03:50 PM 8/12/99 +1000, you wrote:
>Dear all,
>
>This may be of interest.
>
>Dean
>__
>
>
>The Australian Insititute of Criminology and Correctional Services SA
present a conference on  
>BEST PRACTICE INTERVENTIONS IN CORRECTIONS FOR INDIGENOUS PEOPLE
>
>13-15 October 1999   Hindley Parkroyal Adelaide
>
>Day 1  13 October  12.30pm - 5.30pm   
>Day 2  14 October  9.00am - 6.00pm 7pm Conference Dinner
>Day 3  15 October  8.30am - 5.00pm 
>
>
>Aims and objectives of the Conference:
>The aims of the conference will be to examine and compare some of the best
practice interventions being used within the Australian correctional system
for indigenous people.
>
>The conference will provide a forum for correctional administrators,
custodial staff, Indigenous groups, health professionals, researchers and
many others to participate.  The Australia Institute of Crinminology is
also delighted to be bale to draw on knowledge and experiences from a
number of international speakers and participants.
>
>A significant component of the conference will introduce expert speakers
to discuss specific programs operating within their jurisdictions that are
viewed to be making positive contributions to reducing the significant
over-representation and custodial death problems, together with progress in
refortming areas of the criminal justice system dealing with indigenous
offenders and addressing the underlying issues such as disadvantage and
inequality that have contributred to their excessive incarceration rates. 
>
>Some of the issues to be canvassed include:
>
>- classification and case management for Indigenous prisoners;
>- provision of medical services and health care issues;
>- pre- and post- release programs;
>- awareness training and for correctional officers and other professional
staff;
>- vocational education and training;
>- programs tailored to Indigenous women;
>- violence programs;
>- drug and alcohol problems
>- sex offender programs
>- behaviour modification programs;
>- alternatives to imprisonment;
>- sentencing options;
>- restorative justice;
>- design issues; 
>- international comparisons and experiences;
>- incarceration and deaths in custody trends;
>- programs to reduce self-harm and suicide.
>
>Speakers include: 
>Wed: Lewis O'Brien, Adam Graycar, Trevor Griffin, John Paget, David
Rathman,  
>
>Wed. electives:Robert Vandenbergh on Community Based Correctional Schemes
>   A/Prof Rick Sarre on  Overview of the Theory of Diversion
>  Darcy Turgeon: Diversion from Secure Custody Facilities to
outstations
>   Dr Paul Chantrill Sentencing/Diversionary programs
>
>   Pat Hodgens on  Literacy/Numeracy
>   Pam Gill on Overview of Pragrams in NSW
>   Mavis Ferier on Girrawaa Creative Work Centre, Bathurst Cultural 
>   Program
>   Chris Manners on Vocational Training and Education in NT   
> Correctional
Centres
>
>   David Daley on Aboriginal Community Supervision agreements
>   Robert Brown and John Scantleton on Outreach Service to
> Indigenous
Probationers
>   Ron Woodham on Overview of NSW Programs - Mobile Work   Camps  
>and
Second Chance Program
>
>Thursday 14 October:
>Speakers:  Glenda Humes, Colin Dillon, Bill Jonas, Tauto Sansbury, Winsome
Matthews
> Mitch Kassen (Canada), Dr Haami Piripi (NZ), David McDonald and A/Prof
  Chris Cunneen,  Robert Brokenshire 
>Electives: Prof Keith Howells   on Anger Management
>   Darcy Turgeon   on Sexual Health
>   Glen Jones  on Aboriginals as Victims and Offenders
>   Maureen West  on Cultural Camps
>   Dr Paul Menmott on   Design Issues
>   Dave Moore on Accommodation Initiatives in the NT for   
>Indigenous Inmates
>   Dave Moore on NT Court Mandated Pilot Program for Offenders of
Domestic and Aboriginal Family Violence
>   Darcy Tudgeon and Colin Williams on Domestic Violence:  
>Alternative to
Family Violence   Program  (QLD)
>   Julianne Davies on WA Sex Offender Program
>   Chris Manners on NT Sex Offender Program
>   Tony Lindsay on An Aboriginal Inmate's Perspective (SA)
>   Michael Kartinyeri on AN Aboriginal Correctional Officer's 
> Perspective
(SA)
>   Alf Bamblett on Bert Williams  Diversionary Program
>   Susan Senior on Aboriginal Family Supervision Program
>   Mark Johnson and Michelle Hall on Indigenous Healing Program   
> and
Juvenile Offenders Educatio

[recoznet2] FW: A letter from Leonard Peltier

1999-08-11 Thread ozi

Via Warriornet:


>-Original Message-

>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Saturday, August 07, 1999 12:27 PM
>To: Workers World News Service
>Subject: A letter from Leonard Peltier
>
>
>-
>Via Workers World News Service
>Reprinted from the Aug. 12, 1999
>issue of Workers World newspaper
>-
>
>A LETTER FROM LEONARD PELTIER
>
>My Brothers and Sisters,
>
>It is hard for me to believe that the year 2000 is so
>quickly approaching us. As I sit in this cell and think
>about my grandchildren who are growing up so fast, my
>friends who have passed on, and the many years of my life
>that have been stolen from me, I remind myself of the
>attention my own suffering has brought to the realities
>of Indigenous Peoples everywhere. I know that my own
>persecution has become a symbol of the persecution all of
>our people face everyday.
>
>But I have not given up hope for freedom. Today I am
>asking you to stand up and represent me and everything I
>am so proud of: the dignity, spirituality, and pride of
>the First Nations Peoples of the world.
>
>My dream is to continue what the Trail of Broken
>Treaties started: an event that will have a historic and
>lasting effect in the minds and consciousness of the
>public. We are hoping to carry out such an event this
>November in Washington, DC. November will be a critical
>time for my freedom campaign.
>
>This December will be Clinton's last likely chance to
>grant me Executive Clemency. My defense team will have
>been steadily lobbying Congress to support clemency for
>two months prior to the event. Therefore, November will
>be an important time for a strong show of public support.
>
>The irony is that at the same time, "Native American
>Heritage Month" and the Thanksgiving holiday will be
>occurring and will be bringing additional attention on
>Native Americans into the public, making November an
>important month to bring real issues of Indigenous
>Peoples of the U.S. into the limelight of the media.
>
>I believe that we can accomplish a successful campaign
>to do this if we all pull our resources together. I can
>visualize all the colors of our Native Nations' flags
>flying high around a culturally brilliant and attention
>attracting event in front of the White House this Fall.
>
>The thought of different Indigenous Nations coming
>together in unity to support sovereignty, human rights,
>dignity, cultural preservation, and my freedom, warms my
>heart. Please read the proposal attached to find out more
>about our plans and how you can help. Thank you.
>
>In the Spirit of Crazy Horse,
>Leonard Peltier
>
>LEONARD PELTIER FREEDOM MONTH
>
>[Excerpts from the Leonard Peltier Defense Committee's
>appeal]:
>
>We are writing to ask for your support, endorsement and
>collaboration regarding our plans for a November 1999
>Leonard Peltier Freedom Month in Washington, D.C. As you
>know, Peltier is a Native American leader who has been
>unjustly incarcerated for 23 years in the United States. FBI
>documents released years after his trial, together with
>other sources, have proved that critical ballistic evidence
>establishing his innocence was withheld from the defense,
>and that witnesses were terrorized into giving false
>testimonies against him. Though long overdue for parole, and
>in deteriorating health, Peltier remains in prison.
>
>Amnesty International and numerous other human rights
>organizations have recognized Leonard Peltier as a political
>prisoner and demanded his immediate and unconditional
>release. He is seen as a symbol of Indigenous Resistance and
>his call for freedom is supported by numerous Indigenous
>organizations worldwide.
>
>It is clear that the judicial system in the United States
>has utterly failed Peltier. We recognize that we must now
>demand justice from the other two branches of govern ment,
>the executive and legislative branches. President Clinton
>has the power to grant clemency to Leonard Peltier at any
>time, and the United States Congress is charged with
>overseeing the correct conduct of affairs by such agencies
>as the United States Parole Board and the FBI.
>
>In order to obtain action and justice from these offices,
>all sectors of society must make themselves heard. As we all
>know, November is the month of Thanksgiving in the United
>States. According to historical legend, the first
>Thanksgiving was held by the pilgrims to give thanks to God
>for their very survival in North America. They had been
>saved from starvation by kindly Native Americans who taught
>them about local crops and wildlife.
>
>The pilgrims, in turn, thanked the Lord and exterminated
>the tribes. Leonard Peltier is but one more of the most
>recent victims.
>
>November has also been declared Native American Heritage
>month by President Clinton, and we plan to hold him to his
>word. Traditionally, clemency petitions are granted by the
>president at the end of each y

Re: [recoznet2] Latham/Pearson speeches at the Brisbane Institute

1999-08-04 Thread ozi

I also would like copy of this transcript please, Trudy.  Many thanks for
your thoughtfulness.


Neshoba


>
>
>>
>>I have a copy of the transcript of the speeches made by Mark Latham and
>Noel
>>Pearson at the Brisbane Institute.
>>If anyone would like a copy (148 KB) let me know and I will forward it.
>>
>>SPEAKERS:   MR MARK LATHAM, MP
>>  MR NOEL PEARSON
>>  "FROM CAPE YORK TO CAMPBELLTOWN -
>>  REBUILDING COMMUNITIES"
>>
>>Trudy
>>
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Re: [recoznet2] Tent Embassy

1999-08-01 Thread ozi

Nothing heard on whether the Tour is coming to Victoria at any time,
susanna???  Just wonderin' wistfully.


Neshoba



At 08:38 AM 8/2/99 +1000, you wrote:
>Aboriginal Tent Embassy Speaking Tour: the voices of Aboriginal resistance
>Date:Wed 11 August 1999 
>Phone:4229 4209 
>Location:NSW 
>1pm Speakers: Isabell Coe; Wadjularbinna Nulyarimma and Ray Swan plus
>didgeridoo player UNSW CLB4 
>some events
>
>Aboriginal Tent Embassy Speaking Tour: the voices of Aboriginal resistance
>Date:Wed 11 August 1999 
>Phone:4229 4209 
>Location:NSW 
>7pm Speakers: Isabell Coe; Wadjularbinna Nulyarimma and Ray Swan plus
>didgeridoo player (2) Gaelic Club, 64 Devonshire St., Surry Hills 
>
>Aboriginal Tent Embassy meeting
>Date:3 August 1999 
>Group:Aboriginal Tent Embassy 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Phone:02 4229 4209 
>Location:NSW 
>Meeting featuring Isabell Coe; Wadjularbinna Nulyarimma; Ray Swan
>UniBar, University of Wollongong 
>
>cheers susanne martain
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[recoznet2] Visitors to Australia, 2000

1999-07-15 Thread ozi

Kahn-Tineta Horn, Mohawk Elder and President of the Canadian Alliance in
Solidarity with the Native Peoples, will be in Sydney next year with her
daughter, Waneek, who is competing in the Olympics (she will be the only
indigenous athlete from Canada to be doing so!).

I believe they would be hoping to meet and speak with the People of this
land, and also, both Kahn-Tineta and Waneek are wonderful speakers on
indigenous issues. 

Anyone have any ideas?  


Be well!
Neshoba


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[recoznet2] Re: SMH - JUSTICE OR NOT? Scot-free

1999-07-09 Thread ozi

Yes indeed!  A poignant reminder of the truism:  "some are more equal than
others".


Neshoba



At 12:15 PM 7/10/99 +1000, you wrote:
>And in Darwin a homeless man goes to jail for 12 months for stealing 
>a towel with which to keep warm.--- Trudy
>


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[recoznet2] Independence Day

1999-07-02 Thread ozi

I forward this message from Rahantubbe of the Chahta (Choctaw) nation ... 
  Neshoba


 "Will those of you who are able, join me, wherever you are in 
 lighting the Sacred Pipe at noon, CDT, July 4th, to pray for
 the idependence and sovereignty of our Nations?


 Rahantubbe Oklafalaya Chahta Nickosa Apuloma
(Rabid Wolf, Chahta)



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[recoznet2] [thefire] Unison

1999-06-26 Thread ozi

This was one of two texts posted today by Blackhawk, and I forward it with
his permission 

I was visiting with my relatives...
the clouds, the mountains, the sky, the trees
My relatives touched my spirit, nudged it lovingly
"Listen to us impatient one, we are forever
You must remember the gentleness of time
You are struggling to be who you are
You say you want to learn the old ways
Struggling to learn when all you must do is remember
Remember the People, remember sky and Earth
Remember the People have always struggled to live
in harmony, in peace.
Struggle against selfishness and weakness so the People may live
as Nations,
The old ways are hard, the People have always had to work 
together
Remember impatient one, remember and live...
Do not be afraid of truth, respect, discipline, share your life
so the People may live.
Honor sky and Earth, honor yourself, honor your relations...
Remember impatient one, the gentleness of time."

Grandmother Moon, you are more than light in the night
You are more than the Moon
You are spirit connection, your energy is our light
You are memories to generations past
You are the creator of sensations, they will always last
You are the knowledge, the teacher, the influence
to keep the People sane
You are a healer from spirit pain.
Grandmother Moon, we love you, and we are angry
at the invaders who trash you and violate our universe
with their mechanical uncleanliness.
We pray for you, for us, and for the invader who just can't comprehend
respect, love, or the balance of life.
We do not join the invading madness
>From the way they act which speaks of spirit sadness
Machine, money, progress, is the cause of our common abuse.
We see you Grandmother, we feel you, we love you
We know through your reality we will endure. We are one.
We pray for you, we pray to you.

Grandfather is whispering in the wind
"Rejoice at the life you are a part of, natural energy bound
to natural laws.
You will survive this temporary madness imposed upon you.
Natural light is longer than oppressor's dillusionary insanity.
Spirits experience human deeds, but need not end.
This is just one place that changes
Spirit life is forever if you want, the universe is your home,
you can survive here.
Do not let them kill you, keep your spirit strong,
for distant stars and distant drums are the memories of
spirit infancy
Children of Earth, let the spirit live so you can grow
in your place in the universe."



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Re: [recoznet2] Re:List

1999-06-05 Thread ozi

What on earth is this???  I certainly did not ask to be placed on the
Nationalbolshevik list!


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Re: [recoznet2] Message from Paul

1999-05-20 Thread ozi

Dang!  I've probably missed the bus, Paul, 'cos have been in Sydney for the
past three days ... however if you're still online, have a GREAT trip!!!  


Neshoba



At 03:41 PM 5/18/99 +0200, you wrote:
>hello everyone
>
>your co-list owner is going overseas for a while and leaving the list in the
>more than capable hands of Trudy (:})
>I am going to London and - although I have plenty of other things to do -
will
>hook up with my old mates in the Labour Left. Through this I hope to get some
>publicity for the cause in the UK, where the left in particular doesn't know
>squat about Aboriginal Australian issues. I will undoubtedly be drawing on
the
>list for some help with this.
>I sincerley hope that this list has proved useful to you and that it will
>continue to do so. From my experience of working with Aboriginal people I
have
>definitely learnt that things don't change overnight! So, if things get
>frustrating, just remember that. We can all make a difference though - that's
>what we're trying to do - and every little bit helps. Don't be afraid to
voice
>your ideas on this list. Don't think you 'don't know enough' and don't think
>you're irrelevant - far from it.
>
>Cheerybye for now
>
>Paul Canning
>
>p.s I'm still contactable through my usual email address
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Re: [recoznet2] Journey of healing

1999-05-01 Thread ozi

At 12:52 PM 5/2/99 +1000, you wrote:
Liam, my computer is a pain in the rear end at the best of times and
getting the browser to launch is a daunting, often impossible, task.

Can you please let me know via the list or direct email if there is
anything here in Melbourne going on in relation to the Journey of Healing
or the Bringing Them Home network?  

Thanks.


Neshoba



>I've just made a bitof an update to theJourney of Healing website, if anyone
>is intersted in getting involved with the JoH (which I hope allof you will
>be,) there is contact information and event information on the page state by
>state.
>
>please see www.journeyofhealing.com
>
>peace
>
>
>
>>Hello everyone,
>>
>>This came from Racial Respect, if anyone in Canberra is interested:
>>
>>RR is participating in the organisation of the Journey of Healing events in
>>Canberra. The Bringing Them Home network (previously known as Sorry Day
>>network) meets every Tuesday at 12.15 pm at the Kingston Baptist Church
>>(Currie St). It is an open meeting so you would be more than welcome, if
>you
>>were interested in attending. John Lynch, RR Treasurer, will be there
>>tomorrow (april 27th). He will actually be the Treasurer for the JoH as
>>well.
>>
>>Our next newsletter will be publicising the JoH events so I haven't
>>sent the URL to email-enabled members.
>>
>
>- Liam
> ___
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Re: [recoznet2] Identity

1999-05-01 Thread ozi

Indeed - we ARE our ancestors, each and every single one of 'em.  And they
are us.


Neshoba


At 02:05 PM 5/2/99 +1000, you wrote:
>>I don't know why anyone would interpret it that way. Our past,
>>our ancestors, are a part of us. They are a part of who we are today. 
>
>In the spiral of eternal Return,
>We are the Decendants,
>We are the Ancestors.
>- John Trudell, Santee


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Re: [recoznet2] test

1999-04-09 Thread ozi

Yup, I've scratched my head a couple of times over the past few days, but
then breathed a sigh of relief 'cos sometimes get overwhelmed by volume and
it's almost too much of a good thing which makes this little lull between
the storms very welcome.  lol!


Neshoba


At 10:13 AM 4/9/99 +1000, you wrote:
>Has been quiet lately... just testing to see if I was still on the list...
>
>peace
>
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>>What is it that you are testing, Liam?
>>
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Re: [recoznet2] test

1999-04-06 Thread ozi

What is it that you are testing, Liam?


Neshoba


At 10:26 AM 4/6/99 +1000, you wrote:
>
>- Liam


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Re: [recoznet2] test

1999-04-06 Thread ozi

What is it that you are testing, Liam?


Neshoba


At 10:26 AM 4/6/99 +1000, you wrote:
>
>- Liam


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Re: [recoznet2] List of books

1999-03-18 Thread ozi

What about "The Songlines", whose author I don't recall just at this moment
but can certainly check on and advise?


kola



At 11:26 PM 3/18/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Piet has asked a question about which books to read in order to gain a
>better understanding of Indigenous Australians.
>This gave me an idea that if we can put together a list of worthy books
>we could then put them on our webpage for everyone to consult if they
>wish.
>
>Any contributions please?
>I'll start with Eric Willmot's "Pemulwuy, the Rainbow Warrior"
>
>Trudy
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[recoznet2] Draft Apology Proposal

1999-03-09 Thread ozi

In an issue of The Age newspaper last Friday there was a large article on a
draft apology proposal which I saw in Saturday's The Age had already been
rejected by the Prime Minister because of it is felt that today's nation
should not apologize for the wrongdoings of previous generations.

What I am wondering is whether it would be possible to obtain copy of the
text of that draft, and if so, from where.  Could someone please advise?

Thanks for your time.


kola

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