Re: Any ETA on Redhat 8? *tracker*
On Friday 22 February 2002 08:45 am, you wrote: > why does this matter? 7.2 is just out, is (for me) super with the > inclusion of ext3... what super crazy bleeding edge features are > you guys looking for that necessitate the obsession with a beta or > release date for the next version? It's not so much that I'm after bleeding edge features. I maintain the kickstart trees for all the redhat versions, and I'm doing testing and development on plenty of other assorted 'stuff'. I could get myself a head start on getting things like these to work with 8.0 if I even just had the beta, which, if nothing else, could give me an early heads up to things like, say, the installkernel issue that came up in 7.2, changes in the passwd/shadow/groups files, changes to anaconda, etc. I'm developing with Python, php, and bits and pieces of other stuff as well. Seeing the versions of packages in a full install of the beta will allow me to prepare for the final version a little better. I have enough on my plate without answering 25 emails a day asking when 8.0 will be available, or when our dept. servers will move to it, and why does it take so long, etc (they don't really get kickstart - and ours is fairly complex). So my need is really just to see what's coming up so I can plan and begin my various processes - not so I can say 'I'm hardcore'. Everyone already knows that :-P j/k > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > How bout the beta release... any idea of name, location or > > release.. hopefully it will not be another rosewell and will not > > exist two weeks after everyone has been getting it... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Redhat-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Brian K. Jones System Administrator Dept. of Computer Science, Princeton University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (609) 258-6080 ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Any ETA on Redhat 8? *tracker*
I believe I saw support for the Sandisk is the 2.4.17 kernel. Don't know how experimental it is or not, but you might want to check it out. If you need help with it I'm sure people on this list could help you. -Brandon On Fri, 2002-02-22 at 05:58, Timothy Lee Young wrote: > Actually I was just thinking that I probably don't really need to upgrade > to the next version either; usually I do, but my system is more than > stable and suiting my needs. > > The only thing that seems appealing for a distribution to have is better > USB support so that I can have an easier time getting my scanner & smart > media reader to work. Some of the new distributions have a utility for > helping with scanner setup, but I know if I played around with things > enough, I could get my Epson 1200u to work with my Red Hat 7.2. The smart > media reader from SanDisk, I dunno about that one though. > > Now that would be a great thing for Linux to have, true USB plug & play. > Anyways, I digress. > > > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Any ETA on Redhat 8? *tracker*
IMHO, in terms of real-world computing, it's far more important to be stable, reliable, and well-tasked than to be on the edge for the edge's sake. but at the same time I can understand the slobbering for the next big number. here's hoping that the "Slashdot First Post" attitude never seeps into enterprise level system administrators. nice plug for the good folks in NC, there. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Actually (for me) it is never something new it is always having > something newer... always having the latest and newest product that can > keep a person on edge for the next new release.. now with 7.2 it turned > out to be a great os, but knowing rdht they will come up with something > better.. and this makes waiting no fun.. make since?? > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > On Behalf Of Matthew Boeckman > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 5:46 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Any ETA on Redhat 8? *tracker* > > why does this matter? 7.2 is just out, is (for me) super with the > inclusion of ext3... what super crazy bleeding edge features are you > guys looking for that necessitate the obsession with a beta or release > date for the next version? > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >>How bout the beta release... any idea of name, location or release.. >>hopefully it will not be another rosewell and will not exist two weeks >>after everyone has been getting it... >> >> >> >> >> >> >>___ >>Redhat-list mailing list >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list >> >> >> >> > > -- Matthew Boeckman(816) 777-2160 Manager - Systems Integration Saepio Technologies == == The secret to how our government controls information is easily expl*** **MESSAGE TRUNCATED** ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Any ETA on Redhat 8? *tracker*
Actually I was just thinking that I probably don't really need to upgrade to the next version either; usually I do, but my system is more than stable and suiting my needs. The only thing that seems appealing for a distribution to have is better USB support so that I can have an easier time getting my scanner & smart media reader to work. Some of the new distributions have a utility for helping with scanner setup, but I know if I played around with things enough, I could get my Epson 1200u to work with my Red Hat 7.2. The smart media reader from SanDisk, I dunno about that one though. Now that would be a great thing for Linux to have, true USB plug & play. Anyways, I digress. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Any ETA on Redhat 8? *tracker*
Actually (for me) it is never something new it is always having something newer... always having the latest and newest product that can keep a person on edge for the next new release.. now with 7.2 it turned out to be a great os, but knowing rdht they will come up with something better.. and this makes waiting no fun.. make since?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matthew Boeckman Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 5:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Any ETA on Redhat 8? *tracker* why does this matter? 7.2 is just out, is (for me) super with the inclusion of ext3... what super crazy bleeding edge features are you guys looking for that necessitate the obsession with a beta or release date for the next version? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How bout the beta release... any idea of name, location or release.. > hopefully it will not be another rosewell and will not exist two weeks > after everyone has been getting it... > > > > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > > > -- Matthew Boeckman(816) 777-2160 Manager - Systems Integration Saepio Technologies == == The secret to how our government controls information is easily expl*** **MESSAGE TRUNCATED** ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Any ETA on Redhat 8? *tracker*
why does this matter? 7.2 is just out, is (for me) super with the inclusion of ext3... what super crazy bleeding edge features are you guys looking for that necessitate the obsession with a beta or release date for the next version? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How bout the beta release... any idea of name, location or release.. > hopefully it will not be another rosewell and will not exist two weeks > after everyone has been getting it... > > > > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > > > -- Matthew Boeckman(816) 777-2160 Manager - Systems Integration Saepio Technologies == == The secret to how our government controls information is easily expl*** **MESSAGE TRUNCATED** ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Any ETA on Redhat 8? *tracker*
How bout the beta release... any idea of name, location or release.. hopefully it will not be another rosewell and will not exist two weeks after everyone has been getting it... ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Any ETA on Redhat 8?
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Timothy Lee Young wrote: > I'd think that it would be more appropriate to call the next release 7.3, > instead of 8.0, because there is no major change in the kernel or other > components. As rawhide is using a glibc-2.3-pre developement version and a snapshot of gcc 3.1 I'd say that there is a major change in the components! > Red Hat should save the 8.0 release for like the 2.6 kernel > or something; there's nothing wrong with versions 7.3, 7.4, or even 7.9, > until then. Thats going to be a while yet. Cheers Adam ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Any ETA on Redhat 8?
> We don't preannounce dates or versions. > > -- > Trond Eivind Glomsrød > Red Hat, Inc. LOL Trond I've been on this list a long time and I swear that response from you is a pre-programmed macro of some sort. I'm right aren't I? If not it should be! The real question is why are people so anxious to get to the higher number? That's the one that's always gotten me. I've decided - screw you all - I'm creating a new Linux distribution called 'BuggerThis Linux - Version: Infinity' Mind you I may have to charge a little to let you all be so advanced.. LOL Regards, Ed. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Re[2]: Any ETA on Redhat 8?
Any dates or know location of the latest releases? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Ashe Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 12:23 PM To: Timothy Lee Young Subject: Re[2]: Any ETA on Redhat 8? Hello Timothy, Thursday, February 21, 2002, 1:57:06 PM, you textually orated: TLY> I'd think that it would be more appropriate to call the next release 7.3, TLY> instead of 8.0, because there is no major change in the kernel or other TLY> components. Red Hat should save the 8.0 release for like the 2.6 kernel TLY> or something; there's nothing wrong with versions 7.3, 7.4, or even 7.9, TLY> until then. Red Hat's major version numbers have historically been based on binary compatibility. So as soon as they're comfortable with GCC 3.0 I would suspect that they will release an 8.0 Have fun, -- _ Brian Ashe CTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dee-Web Software Services, LLC. http://www.dee-web.com/ - ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Any ETA on Redhat 8?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Timothy Lee Young wrote: >Linux vendors are getting a little crazy with their version schemes; what, >are they all trying to see who can get to the famed "X" (10) release >first? Of course. Only then will they be able to effectively compete with the Mac. Of course, with Windows already at 2002, there's still a lot of catching up to do. ;-) Cracks me up every time I see a "New! Faster!" 'version' of AOL ... Platinum, now, is it? Especially with that sweet 1000 hours free deal they've got going on. It's only good for 45 days. To fully realize the benefits of this generous offer, you'd have to be dialed up for over 22 hours a day. What? I'm OT again? Sorry ... - -d - -- David Talkington PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/0xCA4C11AD.pgp - -- http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/pale_blue_dot.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQA/AwUBPHVgur9BpdPKTBGtEQLUMQCgm3L720S08UEiBz3YA571Yo4Q3UIAnR4X ZnhEl2P+3bUcLSKYTolK+x+K =JFQo -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re[2]: Any ETA on Redhat 8?
Hello Timothy, Thursday, February 21, 2002, 1:57:06 PM, you textually orated: TLY> I'd think that it would be more appropriate to call the next release 7.3, TLY> instead of 8.0, because there is no major change in the kernel or other TLY> components. Red Hat should save the 8.0 release for like the 2.6 kernel TLY> or something; there's nothing wrong with versions 7.3, 7.4, or even 7.9, TLY> until then. Red Hat's major version numbers have historically been based on binary compatibility. So as soon as they're comfortable with GCC 3.0 I would suspect that they will release an 8.0 Have fun, -- _ Brian Ashe CTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dee-Web Software Services, LLC. http://www.dee-web.com/ - ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Any ETA on Redhat 8?
Good idea. :) On Thursday 21 February 2002 12:27 pm, you wrote: > "Brian K. Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Does anyone over at redhat have any ballpark estimates for redhat > > 8 or its beta? (I'm assuming 8 will be the next version, if I'm > > wrong, please correct me - I'm looking for an eta of the next > > release). > > We don't preannounce dates or versions. -- Brian K. Jones System Administrator Dept. of Computer Science, Princeton University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (609) 258-6080 ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Any ETA on Redhat 8?
I'd think that it would be more appropriate to call the next release 7.3, instead of 8.0, because there is no major change in the kernel or other components. Red Hat should save the 8.0 release for like the 2.6 kernel or something; there's nothing wrong with versions 7.3, 7.4, or even 7.9, until then. Linux vendors are getting a little crazy with their version schemes; what, are they all trying to see who can get to the famed "X" (10) release first? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Any ETA on Redhat 8?
"Brian K. Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anyone over at redhat have any ballpark estimates for redhat 8 > or its beta? (I'm assuming 8 will be the next version, if I'm wrong, > please correct me - I'm looking for an eta of the next release). We don't preannounce dates or versions. -- Trond Eivind Glomsrød Red Hat, Inc. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Any ETA on Redhat 8?
Does anyone over at redhat have any ballpark estimates for redhat 8 or its beta? (I'm assuming 8 will be the next version, if I'm wrong, please correct me - I'm looking for an eta of the next release). -- Brian K. Jones System Administrator Dept. of Computer Science, Princeton University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (609) 258-6080 ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list